Red Hat Announces Enterprise Linux

[beaker]

Anyone allready using AS. I know it has been out for a little while. I would consider moving up to WS if I thought it would add some more stability and better support for devices. Still reading though the page of info. Just wondering what advantages it would hold over my current red hat install.

These listed on the page is what really intersted me:
Asynchronous I/O support: Applications no longer need to pause after issuing read I/Os until they are complete.

Increased SMP granularity: Particularly in the SCSI I/O subsystem. Permits increased I/O throughput in SMP systems with multiple I/O adapters.

SMP Scheduler enhancements: Support process-CPU affinity. Improves performance by increasing the CPU cache hit-rate and greatly reducing spinlock contention in SMP systems.

Bounce Buffer Elimination: Drastically reduces I/O-related memory copy operations in large memory systems (>1GB memory).

I see these issues alot. I start copying or downloading and all my other I/O goes to shit. I upload and my browser speed goes to shit. Still learning to tweak my machine, but it takes time to learn all the little settings to get your machine to go faster. I only have so much time I can dedicate to tweaking my os to death. I have other things to do like real work that needs to get done. SGI Irix was so nice, the os just worked with a fresh install without so much user tweaking.

[playmesumch00ns]

Think I'll just stick with the free one until I've got to know it! Is Red Hat the best distro? Can you still download the ISOs from their FTP? I've really got to get linux back on my system again...:)

[FreeQ]

What about SGI Linux? Is out there any insider info? No rumor I mean but almost official.

[wmendez]

They are supposed release a 32bit technical workstation aimed for DCC, CAD, CAM users as well as RH 8.1 pretty soon

[malducin]

Yes you can still download the souces, ISOs etc. of RedHat. It's their policy to release the basic RH for free. We don't have to worry about that. As far as the best, well that's relative. The one advantage of RH is that the major graphics companies only certify for RH: like Maya, Softimage, etc. That doesn't men other distros won't run commercial apps but there might be minor issues or tweaking involved (or maybe not even that, but they are not officially certified).

As far as those new features, they look interesting though they were done for working with Oracle and the like in mind. What would probably greatly benefit is a renderfarm (or rendering in one machine)

[somlor]

Originally posted by beaker
SGI Irix was so nice, the os just worked with a fresh install without so much user tweaking. [/B]
I notice the same on my SGI. As old as it is, it handles most task pretty damn efficiently with no tweaking. Maybe it can be attributed to Irix's ability to make larger assumptions about the hardware it's running on, whereas Linux has to take into account a really wide variety of platforms/devices.

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[StefanA]

if anyone wants the IRIX look on their Linux desktop you should visit this page

http://www.5dwm.org/

You can download everything you need from there.

best regards

.stefan andersson

[ambient-whisper]

Originally posted by StefanA
if anyone wants the IRIX look on their Linux desktop you should visit this page

http://www.5dwm.org/

You can download everything you need from there.

best regards

.stefan andersson

might work well...but irix looks like poop ;)

[KayosIII]

I have to admit that using Irix felt like a backward step from using Linux as far as UI is concerned...
Linux can be fiddly but that is because the windowing system is vendor inpendant - X windows as implemented on Linux does not know a whole lot about the underlying Operating system - you could be using Mandrake, Redhat or Lycoris... I think things will become easier as the platform matures.

[orion 77]

what i didnt like was the inconsistency amongst the distros. eg x windows as easy using suse and mandrake but very difficult with debian. if ur a newb it can be very disheartening.

[beaker]

Originally posted by KayosIII
I have to admit that using Irix felt like a backward step from using Linux as far as UI is concerned...

Well you comparing window managers 4dwm vs gnome/kde/whatever your using, not irix vs linux. Most of the "linux" window managers run on most unix based operating systems including irix. The trouble with gnome and kde is they both are huge memory hogs. 4dwm uses 1/4th the resources(memory and processor) of kde/gnome. I liked the 4dwm interface, it is small and simple and doesnt take up so much realistate. I know alot of places are using MWM for that reason.

[playmesumch00ns]

My experience of IRIX was that it was clean and functional. Yes it was ugly, but then I was spending most of my time looking at Maya so i could deal with that.

It also forced you to use the command shell a lot more (don't think I was doing anything in the GUI by the end of the year), which was unwieldy at first but actually proved to be more efficient once you'd got the hang of it.

We were using old (I mean OLD) O2's with 133MHZ mips2 (maybe mips3) cpus and 128MB ram. It wasn't the fastest system, but I'd like to see a Win PC with equivalent specs even load Maya! Is it still true that Unix systems render 2.5 times faster than NT systems?

Back on linux, has anyone got Maya to run on RH 8?

[somlor]

Anyone in the Bay Area looking to play with Irix for cheap, ILM is selling some old SGI's on craigslist. http://www.craigslist.org/sfo/nby/sys/9434491.html

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[beaker]

yea, thats how much they have been selling on ebay for the last year or so. They came out in 96, so they are over 6 years old. They make really nice webservers. Also the video capture on it is really nice, especially if you can find a copy of Alias Zapit.

>>Back on linux, has anyone got Maya to run on RH 8?

Works fine here, been using it on RH8 since December. Though even Red Hat is telling people on the side that they should wait for RH8.1. I tried the RH8.1 beta but it wouldnt even boot for me. So hopefully the final version when it comes out soon will work.

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