The Hapless Hero/Villian - Rhonedog

[KingMob]

love it man...especially lack of stamina due to lack of limbs...great little log to man!

another for me to watch

[erilaz]

Leprosy! Tee hee hee!
He feels no pain... literally.:D

[seudo]

I like this one.

Would he have an infectious personality?

[Stimpy]

hahahaa.. nice one.

and YES you are going to hell my son.

[Tottebias]

I would sure as hell run as fast as I possibly can if I met the leprosy man.

[Heber]

hey rhone , very cool character you got going , best of luck to ya :thumbsup:

[MikeRhone]

I haven't picked up a pencil and paper in a long time, so please dont make fun. :p

http://www.wingman.ca/CgTalk/LeroyPost.jpg

I'll try and do a full shot of his body if I have some spare time tommorow.

Any design suggestions for this guy? I know I can't use PaintFX for the hair, but I think its sparse enough where Ill be able to think of something easy geometry-wise.




Mike R

[Hickory]

Hehehe...is Jesus is arch-enemy?

[Tottebias]

Now that is one eeevil looking old fart.

[Rmortis]

crazy

he lost his members when fight?

un saludo.




sorry mine english

[MikeRhone]

I had a few free hours tonight so I tried blocking him in. Aside from the obvious areas I havent gotten to, are there any design suggestions/critique?

http://www.wingman.ca/cgtalk/LeroyPostCG1.jpg

I still dont know if I'll be able to put in the time to finish this one. With all the skilled entrants this time around I know my thread will quickly be lost in the swarm of everyones updates. If nothing else its good motivation to keep on top of Leroy... aka Captain Leperosy.

"Shaking a fist in the face of justice! ...and then somehow losing the fist."

Mike R

[KingMob]

dude all the skilled entries...you are for sure up there man...just keep going, you can count on my supporting you!

but you gotta support mine to...deal?

:beer:

Seriously tho, love the character so far, keep going man :wip:

[Grub]

Yeah, looks interesting, Rhone - good on you:) Hey, don't get mired in the sea of updates... Speaking of which, you and Mob can cut me in on that deal;)

[dodo3d]

:thumbsup:
keep going ,I like the feel of this character and can't wait to see more

[MikeRhone]

Leroy's Back Story

Leroy is famed for being the only Leper to ever try and pickpocket Jesus. With a handfull of stolen peanuts and an old bus transfer, Jesus kicked Leroy squarely in the ass and sent him flying. Leroy awoke a few hours later in a daze, and saw the world through new eyes. The angry beating Jesus had given him had inadvertantly given Leroy super Leper powers. After gobbling up the peanuts, Leroy decided to turn over a new leaf... From this day forward, he would be a Leper for Justice!

Captain Leprosy

Likes: Justice.
Dislikes: Playing Red Rover.
Strengths: Can rip appendages off and use them against you.
Weakness: Loses apendages regulary. Bleeds a lot. Low stamina. Low self esteem. Tattered rags for costume not very intimidating. Girls find Leprosy to be a "Turn off". Has a bad credit rating. Lost a movie at Blockbuster, and now they are starting to phone him every 3 days or so.

[Stimpy]

LOL

you are SO going to hell my son.. see ya there.. ;)

[MikeRhone]

No update yet. :surprised

I need some help deciding what I should do for the eyes. http://www.wingman.ca/cgtalk/theeyeshaveit.jpg

I am leaning towards the pitable, pained look in "F". Its almost an innocent Disney style, but I dont think Disney has delved into the body mutilation genre yet.

I've been looking at eyes for hours and I couldnt come up with anything I liked yet. Can anyone give me an idea?

Thanks!

Mike R

[Clanger]

F's the best for sure.

[Stimpy]

yah.. F has the nicest shape though i also kind of like the aggressiveness in B. so whatever situation he is in, one of those...

[Mangled Poly]

F!:bounce:

[Jhonus]

I LIKE F

DO F

I LIKE F

DO F

[erilaz]

FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF....
and the model is nice too!

[littlebrother]

I've been following. Thought it was a little morose at first, but it deffinetly has the potential to win; people have sick sinces of humor.

[MikeRhone]

Morose (http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=morose) ? I hade to look that one up in the dictionary... But thanks!

I dont know if I i'de agree I have the potential to win, but im flattered someone likes it. There are a ton of amazing modelers and texturers in this challenge, so I will try and keep up. I'm going to do my best to keep this character as "Stylized" as I can.

Thanks peeps. Im going to work on the eyes asap!

:buttrock: Booyah!

Mike R

[philthebottle]

Man... I just read the topic of the challenge and thought to give this one a try... Can you believe that even before I had a chance to sketch my idea out, I ran across someone already sketching it?

What can I say? I like it... Even thought you plucked the idea out of my head! :)

Your skecthes look better than what I'd started thinking of though. heh.

As for my suggestion for the eyes... Use "F" on the left side and leave an empty socket on the right...

[Stimpy]

w00t for "stylized".

i really like your character a lot, this kind of stuff is harder to do than realistic heads, but looking very nice so far.. you did a very nice job on that one. *patpatpat*

[MikeRhone]

Thanks for all the feedback so far...!

Stimpy: I've always prefered cartoony anyways. I only model realistically if I absolutely have to. :)

Philthebottle: I had that happen to me in a challenge before as well. Almost the exact same idea. Its creepy, because it shows how hard it is to be truely creative and original. (I'm just glad I posted my leper first hehe) I refuse to look at any entries whatsoever before I enter so my mind isnt be tainted by the other models.

Anyways, Sorry its been so long since I posted an update. I have started work on the body, but I have come to the conclusion that anatomy is a lot harder when you also have to take into account underlying bone structure. I'de rather model an Arnie than a Bruce Lee. Well, here's the head so far:

http://www.cgchallenge.jpg

Im going to need lots of feedback when it comes to the body. Im also really stuck for costume ideas. I know I want him to be in tattered rags, but I'm still unsure of exactly what kind of rags I should go for. Are there any costume designers in the audience? :surprised

Mike R

[erilaz]

That is awesome.:eek:

Very nice indeed! I love the contours and design of the face. Really very well modelled!

I would suggest some kind of mummy-like stained rags. Maybe look for refrences like the leprosy-pit in The Bible Story movie, or even The Life of Brian.

I think this model is brilliant so far. I can't wait to see the body and the gruesome textures!

[MikeRhone]

Upon harassment from Stimpy in the IRC room, and after relentless insults from everyone saying that I only use poser, heres an update:

http://www.wingman.ca/CgTalk/Quickie.jpg


I've tweaked the ear, added some wrinkles, fixed the eyes, tweaked the head and slapped on a cheezy GI/FG light rig just for show.

Stimpy: I lowered the MickJaggerAttr; by about 95%.

[Stimpy]

a quick comparison might show my point....

http://home.t-online.de/home/520014397907-0001/jagger.jpg



so.. that said, its looking mighty fine, love those wrinkles you added and the shape of the head fits now better as well.. :)

[KingMob]

:eek:

thats looking great rhone!!!!

this is shaping up great...I can already picture it with textures.

It's cartooony yet disturbing, well done!



:beer:

[Dirk_P_Ho]

Ha ha, cool stuff Rhone, he should live in a Dermabraison Hut (*yes, simspons refrence ) :p

[Gremlin]

GOD, so awesome!
I love the style, but that adam's apple :shame: .....it just looks painful! :shrug:

Good work rhonedawg...
Cheers!
:beer:

[Virtuoso]

Hi Rhonedog................:wavey:

Well let me say I am a very big fan of the "Stylized" or Caricature look.That look somewhere inbetween the real World and the toon World.This being said you can see I like your creation very much.It's got me laughing and interested.

:thumbsup:



Leprosy is nasty,flesh and body parts are always falling off. Perhaps one empty eye socket. I would keep the other as wide open as possible.With his current expression the eyes would be very wide open.

I'll check up on you as you up-date,fine WIP thus far.Looking very nice.:beer:

[MikeRhone]

Thanks peeps!

Virtuso: Im contemplating the level of grossness im going to take this. I dont want to go too far though ;)

Gremlin: The adams apple will be gone. After working on the body, im not sure the neck suits the body thus far.

A quick WIP of the body. I had a few hours this evening and thought I'de give it an attempt. I intend to model the ribs, not use bumpmaps. The neck area in particular is giving me some troubles.

Modelling bones underneath loose skin is proving to be a little problematic. I havent started on the arms or stomach at all. Only the neck, back and chest.

http://www.wingman.ca/CgTalk/BackWIP.jpg

As usually, all feedback is greatly apreciated. If anyone happens to have any good reference footage of scrawny skinny people feel free to email me or post here. Google hasn't turn up much more than muscle men or skeletons.:surprised

Mike R

[Stimpy]

just get some pic of ally mcbeal.. ;)

[erilaz]

Originally posted by Rhonedog

If anyone happens to have any good reference footage of scrawny skinny people feel free to email me or post here. Google hasn't turn up much more than muscle men or skeletons.:surprised


Sad to say, but you can get good references if you search for stuff on third world countries.:annoyed:

That's how I did my scrawny hare for the beast of burden challenge.

[baby]

turn to congratulate U !!!!

very cool modeling !!!!

[SheepFactory]

This is turning out absolutely great man! :buttrock:

And thanks for taking the time to give suggestions at my thread , much appreciated.

[MikeRhone]

No problem sheeps. I know how it is after you've been looking at the same model for hours. :p

Im desperate for feeback right now. :surprised I've started on the ribs and upper arms, and I need to see if people think im in the right direction. This is my 2nd attempt at ribs today, and even though I have 4 anatomy books right in front of me, I dont think they look right.

http://www.wingman.ca/cgtalk/MauiRibs2.jpg
Note: Thx for the tips Kogepan and Stimpy :)

If there are any anatomy gurus out there, I need your help! I'de just like to know if I should take another clean crack at modelling the ribs, and also an opinion on how the shoulder-to-arm is looking so far.

Thanks peeps!

Mike R

[Stimpy]

har har...
i have the removed rendering on my HD. pay me $50.000 or i will post it. >:|


but seriously, you shouldnt have removed it. its just part of the process...

speaking of which i will now update my crappy thread as well with a far from perfect wip pic. :D

[Fetus23]

Hey dog!!. Your character is looking great! Have you plans for bandages? As for anatomy, the head is stylized anatomy so perhapes the ribcage should match the style of the head instead of realistic. I think the ribcage you have there is a good start...now it needs some ribs :)..!! great work man! keep it up!!

:beer:
fetus

[MikeRhone]

FETUS! I just missed you in IRC!

Stimpy: I call extortion on your ass! I've re-posted the original attempt so people can see what I changed :p

Here are the ribs I have so far. I am still attempting a stylized look.... Am I headed in the right direction? I will bandage him up soon, so dont worry about the un-modeled stomach and hips.

Looking at these screen grabs I now realize I have messed the shoulders up a bit. Ill fix them up tonight, but for now I need to make some hands for this guy. I'm also going to give him man-boobs with sickly nipples.


http://www.wingman.ca/cgtalk/MauiRibs3.jpg

Please feel free to give me some crit! :buttrock:

Mike R

[Mangled Poly]

That is an awesome body to match that awesome face!

[killahsin]

looking good work on the upper chest cavity though, where the chest connects to the ribs.

very nice model so far though

[Jhonus]

sternum should be alot higher... plus the ribs need more curvature i think. but keep tweaking, i think prominent ribs are one of the hardest things to model

http://members.aol.com/Attic21/Anatomy/AnatPics/chest20.gif
http://members.aol.com/Attic21/Anatomy/AnatPics/chest21.gif

[MikeRhone]

Mangled: Thx man :)

Killah: I love getting crit. I'm finally listening to people and I re-did the ribs for a final time. I think Stimpy convinced me that i was "Over thinking" he ribs. I've decided to go for a softer subtle aproach to the ribs, and I'll hint more at the underlying bone structures with textures.

Krugar: Thx for the ref footage. I've studied pages of Anorexia and Bulimia galleries, and I've come to one conclusion: ribs don't look right to me in real life either :surprised

I've made the hands, redone the chest and slapped them all together. (For the record this was my 3rd attempt at the ribs.) Im trying to go a little cartoony with the limbs. I also have some deep gashes on the hands where the flesh has rotted away to the bone.

http://www.wingman.ca/CgTalk/LeroyPost2.jpg

Yet to do:
-Backbone
-Brow, lips and chin need to be refined
-Gashes and sores on the body
-Clothing. (Im still open for ideas. Im thinking lots of bandages)
-Legs, feet and one leg brace.
-Various leprosy props.

Suggestions and crit please!

Mike R

[Stimpy]

good job on it. i am totally happy with it. i think you found a nice cartoony style, without going over the top too much.

maybe accentuate the ribs on the side a tiny tiny bit, showing them off a bit more, but well... just a dumb suggestion.

[Virtuoso]

It's coming along quite well Rhonedog..........

Well my thoughts............The hands could use more of a size gain.Make the knuckles a bit more "Gnarly" mishapen,protrude out a bit more,minor touch but I think could have a better outcome in the end.

A couple of the ribs could be sharpened a bit,more defined,sharper,have them stick out a bit more as Stimpy suggested.

As for bandages I think I like the idea of tattered clothes more.Bandages would make him too much like a Mummy,not Captain Leprosy.

The lower lip could be made a bit smaller.I like the idea of a leg brace for one of the legs.For the fact that he may have lost the use of one of them due to leprosy.

I think that the backbone could stick out more.It would be more intense and scary/interesting to see the individual bones pulling up through the skin.

Well just some thoughts. For the time being you have a lot of potential with him.And thus far it's looking good.I think with more fine tuning and tender lovin care you will have a great creation.Keep going with him,it's one of the better entries thus far. :beer:

[MikeRhone]

Thx for the tips peeps! No suggestion is a dumb suggestion Stimpy. I always need your fresh eyes to let me know when Im off track.

Thanks for the heaps of idea Virtuoso. I will be "boney-ing" up the back for sure, and defining the ribs a little more though the side to the back. I am going ot try and "rip off" some flesh from the front to expose some ribs. Stress on try :p

Im going to do my best to give this a good shot tonight. Last night was a rough night for me, so my speed, skill and overall demeanor are all shot today.:surprised

Mike R

[Stephen Vyas]

I've been following this one for awhile.. I'm glad you went with a more toned down ribcage. The scapula and collar-bone.. MAN that's creepy! I'm hoping the legs are just as sick, maybe a bone breaking through the skin or a knee-cap sloughing off? :D

[MikeRhone]

Ok, I've been busy this last few weeks with other things, but I've finally had time to put more into getting this guy done. It's only a small update just to bump my thread. Since I've been gone I've seen SO many good modelers enter. Damn you Matt Clark! ;)

http://www.wingman.ca/Cgtalk/BraceWIP3.jpg

The loincloth is just a holding place for one I intend to do, and he does have toenails, I just have them hidden. Any suggestions are welcomed, and I need them quick, the deadline is coming!!

Mike R

[Stimpy]

love the look of the legs for sure. only thing bothering me a bit right now is the difference in style between the hands and legs.. while the hands look totally skinny and boney, the feet look a bit on the chubby side.

tho i have to say i prefer the look of the feet to the one of the hands. could fit in nicely into the whole character (if we could get a look at the whole shebang ;) )

so, with this said: good luck finishing this. go go go #1

:D

[MikeRhone]

Well, He're is my last WIP post before the end date. Sorry its low res screengrabs. I wish I had more time to texture him up nice and finish his costume, but I got really busy this last few weeks.

I will do the costume and texturing in my own time and post in the Finished projects. These are just some random poses I thought people might get kicks out of.

http://www.wingman.ca/Cgtalk/LeroyPose.jpg

Let me know what you think...!

Mike R

[KingMob]

man that is great, now lets see a nice finished render of those poses...to bad no textures yet, but when you do em, this character is really gonna come alive :D

[MikeRhone]

Heres a quick update:

http://www.wingman.ca/CgTalk/SkyShot.jpg

More to come before the deadline.

Mike R

[MikeRhone]

This has been a hectic last few weeks. I managed to slap out a couple of renders before the deadline, so I am one happy dude.

Thanks to everyone for all thier help through the challenge. Without everybodys constant and honest critique, my models would all end up looking like a cracked out Gumby.

http://www.wingman.ca/CgTalk/LeperPost.jpg

Im sorry I wasn't able to dedicate myself completly to the challenge this month, but it appears to have worked out for the best... Good things are on the horizon!

Now... On to EXPOSÉ...!

Mike R

[KingMob]

looks who finished! kinda...thO i know the textures are coming so its ok :beer:

Awesome model, awesome posing, keep working on this guy like we discussed and I think this is really a solid charac ter...hell in this state now (no textures) hes a damn fine character...love the street shot btw, good work man!!!

:beer:

now to party :D

[Starv]

Spectacular modelling Rhonedog! :xtreme:
That one pose where he carries his right arm as a club is hilarious. Can't wait to see Captain Leprosy in his full, textured glory.
Keep going! :beer:

[Antilles]

me like! awesomeness. advice: do not wait until the last minute to finish this guy, do it now so you can have time to make it perfect, and reap the benefits.

[MikeRhone]

Thanks for the comments guys! I'll be sure to texture him as soon as I can, or I know that King_m0b, Steve Vyas, Stimpy and everyone else whos offered help this time around will beat me with the silly stick.

And the silly stick isn't fun.


Mike R

[Stephen Vyas]

*Steve grabs his newly polished silly stick* :D
Mike, this is just a fantastic piece! The picture with him in the street made those tiny hairs on the back of my neck stand up.. Poor guy, it looks as though he'll be needing another brace for that arm now.:)
I can't wait to see how far you can take this. Let us know when and where you might be throwing those textured renders of him up on the net.
Good luck on the entry into EXPOSÉ
Take care,
Steve

[Heber]

hey mike , i'd thought id check your thread and whoa fantastic work , especially the shot where his arm is torn off , very comical stuff , keep up the good work , good luck with your new position , hope all goes well for you :)

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