Challenge issues resolved here

[BladeFX]

Lildragon,

your link to the issues in the challenge discription seems to be invalid.

[lildragon]

Yup it was temporary.

Works now

salud

[MCronin]

I have one question. What's the point of rule 7? I wouldn't make a long haired character, but I'm curious why long hair has to be modeled or clip mapped?

[smfjersey]

This is with MUCH respect for hosts and mods of cgtalk.

Ok,..sorry for the confusion. I'll try again. At the top of cgtalks home page there are four image links to current events, demo reels, outstanding art etc. You also link to the challenge site from here. When you do this, you use art that is currently being judged in the challenge. For example, you used Manual M's image to let us know that the VFX challenge voting had begun. It kind of plugs Manual M's work and skews voting.

Same with cgchallenge home page.

I know in the end this type of stuff doesn't effect the judges opinions.

Like I have said, it's your gig. Run it how you wish. You've always done a great job. This is just a suggestion.

[AJ]

This is the greatest topic ever!

Only question - what's the verdict on multiple entries? (Not that I can even finish one challenge...) For example a "League" of bumbling heros?

[lildragon]

smfjersey can you please reword that? I'm not sure what you're speaking about

AJ you can only do one entry per category. Plus the challenge site isn't setup for multiple entries.

salud

[MCronin]

He's talking about when you pimp the challenge voting in the masthead at the top of the main forum page. When you announced voting was open for the various challenges you used work from the challenge for the thumbnail. He's saying including specific pieces could influence the people who click through to vote. I agree.

Also, the hair question. I'm really curious why that's a rule. Can you explain why you felt it a necessary rule?

[lildragon]

Originally posted by MCronin
He's saying including specific pieces could influence the people who click through to vote. I agree.

Also, the hair question. I'm really curious why that's a rule. Can you explain why you felt it a necessary rule?

Well umm yeah I did that, I used pieces from King Mob, M@. and azazel when voting was on, so I don't understand where this is coming from :shrug: if you guys mean the plug that's up now might be,. Anyhoo

As for the hair rule, this is not new, it was even in the last challenge and challenges b4 that. We don't want use of hair generated plugins such as Shave & haircut or Shag: Hair

salud

[wasamonkey]

could you fix the name on my thread sorry I read the rules after and cant change it :(

[MCronin]

He's not talking about the plug that's up now, he means for fututre reference. When voting is on, just to keep things somewhat fair. It's probably a good idea not to single out anyone's work in the future while voting is on. That means not using it for the thumbs or for promoting the current challenge in any way.

As for the hair, I just really wanted to know why you arrived at the conclusion that longer hair had to be either modeled or mapped, and forbid the use of plugins which I assume includes XSI's built in hair. I take it using a plugin to generate nice looking hair somehow giving those users an unfair andvantage. It's your contest, your rules, but I can't help but wonder why this exception for long hair.

Suppose someone was using software that didn't have any hair plugins, but could render curve primitives and apply dynamics to them, or someone made particle hair. Is that breaking the rule? They aren't using a plugin, but the hair isn't a model or an opacity map either.

I'm sorry, I just find this rule really perplexing if the reasoning is an unfair advantage of some type. There are lot's of things that some software can do well that others do not or can not, GI, IBI, Caustics, Deep Rasters... why is hair such a problem?

[unLevel]

got a question for you, mr. lildragon..

Can the unsuper hero not be aware of his/her own inadequacy?

Like they still think they are a hero?


And, why must they have fallen? What if it was just a case of bad advertisement or publicity that they are not "super"?

[lildragon]

Ok I'll try to make this clear for you. This is a challenge, it's purpose is to focus on your modeling/texturing/lighting e.t.c without any aids. Everyone has access to polys/splines e.t.c, most apps on the market that support texturing have opacity/transperency channels. Not every app has Shave & hair cut or Shag: Hair. See where I'm going? to keep things fair. No-one says you can't do whatever you want after the challenge, just throughout the challenge you abide by the rules. It's called a challenge for a reason no?

And you guys really take this too seriously, this is a community event, to help promote artists, I have heard no complaint until now so I will continue to plug their images when I represent the challenges. I'm sure if I were to use your entry up there you'll sing a different tune. Just relax and enjoy the challenges.

salud

[AJ]

AJ you can only do one entry per category.

nuts.

:annoyed:

[dshelton]

are duos allowed?

[Gregwid]

Hello.:wavey:

I have questions on these topics from the challenge guidelines:

5) textures are allowed for final voting if you feel so inclined.
6) Bumpmaps are allowed throughout the challenge and for final voting (so you don't have to texture your character/vehicle if you don't feel the need to)

Will not having textures influence the voting?Or by having them will your work have a better chance of placing higher in the councils opinion?
Also can one do just a headquarters"SECRET HIDEOUT",without characters involved?

Thanks for any help on clearing this up for me.

:beer:

[Gregwid]

Hello,Hello,:shrug: Anybody out there:curious:
Anybody got any answers for my questions above please.I am still debating to enter depending on the answers.Thanks again.:beer:

[lildragon]

>>>Will not having textures influence the voting?Or by having them will your work have a better chance of placing higher in the councils opinion?<<<

Short answer no, if the model/s are very close the guidelines and well executed then you still stand a great chance. This shouldn't be your concern what the council thinks at this point, just have fun and improve your skills

>>>Also can one do just a headquarters"SECRET HIDEOUT",without characters involved?<<<

Yes

good luck

salud

[pearson]

Originally posted by Gregwid
Will not having textures influence the voting?

Well, ask yourself this: in the LOTR Challenge, if KingMob had not textured his model, would he have beat Fetus23, who had a well textured model? I think the answer is clearly "no". KingMob would have had to put much more detail into the model to make it look as detailed as it does with textures, and how do you model patches of moss?:shrug:

If you are interested in "winning" then if textures are allowed, they are required. However, as Lil'D pointed out, these challenges were never meant to be competitions; the prizes are an unfortunate by-product of success.

And on a completely unrelated note: I, for one, would love to see a return to the original concept, at least now and then, where everything is spelled out. For example, in the Pirate challenge, the character had to be a pirate, had to have a mechanical limb, had to be alien, etc. It was actually a challenge to be creative within the constraints. But too many people complained about not having enough freedom...:shrug:

I personally find it challenging enough to find the time to finish a model, much less paint textures for it too!:p

[MikeRhone]

I feel bad for having to ask this, but what level of retouching is allowed on final submissions? I'de like to know if we're able to composite/draw in effects like hair via photoshop, or would people consider that to be too much "2d in a 3d challenge"?


I just need to have my options open. :buttrock:

Mike R

[The FreakyOne]

are there any prizes:)

[lildragon]

Originally posted by pearson
But too many people complained about not having enough freedom...:shrug:



LOL man you don't know the half of it! We finally found a way that works pretty good. We do however are always open for suggestions for the next topic (this is how this challenge was decided) just send us a pm/email to keep your suggestions off the forums, cause those threads just elevate to shouting ;)

Rhonedog no Photo retouching, raw renders please

The FreakyOne I won't even justify that with an answer ;)

salud

[mariska3d]

I wondered if it is allowed to enter this contest with two people, if i let my boyfriend design the character, and i model and texture it for example.

[lildragon]

Originally posted by mariska3d
I wondered if it is allowed to enter this contest with two people, if i let my boyfriend design the character, and i model and texture it for example.

Go for it :thumbsup:

salud

[DV8]

when does the next challenge start? I am stoked to do another one. thanks

[adldesigner]

Originally posted by DV8
when does the next challenge start? I am stoked to do another one. thanks

I second this question. Seeming as I don´t want to polute the forum with additional threads.
Thank you very much.

[lildragon]

June

-lild

[Apt Pupil]

:cool:

[adldesigner]

Thanks for reply lildragon.

[ilasolomon]

... & the oscar goes to ...






... whom?! ... :buttrock:

[Steveyola]

Originally posted by lildragon
June

-lild


June 1st or June 30th?
Thanks.:p

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