Jos Stam on Maya's nCloth

[MrPositive]

I wish you could do interviews with smart people......geesh. By the way, Jos could be the tallest individual in all of CG.

[Kabab]

Great read thanks!

[iluvgfx]

Nice article. Thank you.

[akin]

ohhh mannn what a chance to talk somebody like this guy while we cant get any simple word out of people on the street, yesterday l asked the bus driver which stop l could get down and he said '' learn the adress and get on the bus then''

[Rodi]

Turkish Bus drivers are like that because of the heat- otherwise nice guys:)

[smallone3d]

I was looking into nCloth and still am, but this article was just in good time. Thanks guys, for the interview and Mr. Stam for the time to get deeper into this.

Cesar

[Lone Deranger]

Have you ever met ILM's Dennis Muren?

By the way, Jos could be the tallest individual in all of CG.

[leif3d]

Great article. I really like how it tries to explain all the physics behind it with simple ideas and terminology.:thumbsup:

[w1as]

Very useful article

Cheers,

[azozel]

Very cool I hope that they port it over for max down the road.
Reactor is good and all but It's nice to have options.

[X96]

Have you ever met ILM's Dennis Muren?

Dennis Muren is a bit of a prick and has too much of an ego. (Mostly I think because he's in bed with lucas)

I met him at siggraph and he was very rude to me and a few of the people from the mill I met there and was talking to.
He was calling us "posers and failures. "

[snowkiwi]

I wish I was as deep as Jos gets. I respect the creators of Alias. To me these guys are geniuses. If it wasn't people like Jos and the Alias team, there wouldn't even be 3-D art. That's a true thumbs up in my book. Thanks for the interview. These people deserve the recognition.

Am I the only one that things that Jos looks like Will's father in the Pirates of the Caribbean 2, which I thought was a good character.

[jeremybirn]

He was calling us "posers and failures. "

Sheesh! As far as I know, there isn't even a product called Failure™ yet.

-jeremy

[walterkilis]

"exciting"

[bluemagicuk]

Nice read I believe there were others involved in the development of ncloth. I always wonder who deservers taking credit for great work when they could never have done it without such and such a person.... or perhaps they could take credit ... but i do wonder :)

[martinc]

Dennis Muren is a bit of a prick and has too much of an ego. (Mostly I think because he's in bed with lucas)

I met him at siggraph and he was very rude to me and a few of the people from the mill I met there and was talking to.
He was calling us "posers and failures. "

Wow! That's a very different picture than I have of him. I got to work with Dennis on War of the Worlds, and he was great to work with. The way he thinks through tough tough fx is amazing. I also had to take my daughter into a meeting with Dennis one Saturday and he was especially nice to her. I guess that makes him ok in my book. :)

Martin

[destruct007]

very cool, good assortment of nCloth stuff

[NicolasJordan]

It's a good idea to have articles like this every once in a while. I am interested in the technology of 3D and the developers just as much as making stuff with the programs. Nice article! :thumbsup:

[lollygag]

Sheesh! As far as I know, there isn't even a product called Failure™ yet.

-jeremy

lol@jeremy (http://forums.cgsociety.org/lol@jeremy)

[Naseem]

trully a remarkble man, one of the greatest pioneers.

[mortas may]

great interview (mind you for years i always thought particles should be used to "sim" just by somehow assigning them the models vertices or control cage and constraining from there ) to bad i'm usless at math.. anyway was there any word on how far Ncloth tech was to be expanded e.g a version for studio max??

MM6

[TAVO]

was there any word on how far Ncloth tech was to be expanded e.g a version for studio max??

i was wonder the same thing, i asked this before in the 3ds max forum here in cgtalk but no word has been said from Autodesk, i really hope this can be ported to 3ds Max as well since it seems a great tech and Autodesk can make both app users happy (for once). :)

[jeremyhardin]

Great read, and very interesting.

This quote has me wondering though...Maya Nucleus is a standalone library that was almost completely implemented by Stam and is independent of any product. “It is a core library with an API, which is mostly geared towards Maya,” explains Stam. “But in principle it could potentially be used in many other products.”

Does this mean that other applications could be made to utilize the nCloth library?

[mortas may]

“It is a core library with an API, which is mostly geared towards Maya,” explains Stam. “But in principle it could potentially be used in many other products.”


yes sounds like a "possible port for just about any 3d app "3DSMAX" if auto desks keeps coming up with new modules for nucleus. e,g animation mods, they could make them work in both maya and max and after a few years max and maya will basically be the same app and guess what.. everybody using one 3d, no more max or maya just "Nucleus".. then again this might be all wishfull thinking...

MM6

[jbradley]

Nice read I believe there were others involved in the development of ncloth. I always wonder who deservers taking credit for great work when they could never have done it without such and such a person.... or perhaps they could take credit ... but i do wonder :)

More importantly - I wonder why they're discussing the technology as though they invented it. There must be other technical implementation details that they didn't want to allude to.

I've seen research and actual demo applications where cloth (and liquids) is modeled from rigid particle systems, not springs. I do not believe this aspect of the technology is new. It's possible Jos came up with the idea 'on a napkin', so-to-speak, but he's not the only one ... and I'm sure he's up on his research.

I'm just really curious what the real hurdle they overcame over was, from a technical and theoretical standpoint.

It was a great article though and a cool read.

[Frankyboy]

http://appft1.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-Parser?Sect1=PTO2&Sect2=HITOFF&p=1&u=%2Fnetahtml%2FPTO%2Fsearch-bool.html&r=1&f=G&l=50&co1=AND&d=PG01&s1=jos.IN.&s2=stam.IN.&OS=IN/jos+AND+IN/stam&RS=IN/jos+AND+IN/stam

[jbradley]

http://appft1.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-Parser?Sect1=PTO2&Sect2=HITOFF&p=1&u=%2Fnetahtml%2FPTO%2Fsearch-bool.html&r=1&f=G&l=50&co1=AND&d=PG01&s1=jos.IN.&s2=stam.IN.&OS=IN/jos+AND+IN/stam&RS=IN/jos+AND+IN/stam

Looks like the real invention is the ability to have a solver that works with invalid states for the particle system elements and forces them back into valid states - though that seems somewhat similar to some verlet integration techniques.

That makes sense I guess. The whole particles as rigid bodies (not springs) is prior art though I think.

Cool to see that it was filed in 2005.

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