Lamborghini Murcielago WIP

[ThirdEye]

Here are the wheels, dunno which one is better tho :shrug:

[MoThBall]

:eek: WOW!!!!! just WOW!!!!

[MoThBall]

and i think the Black rim would look better :)

[JIII]

hate to sound contrary mothball but I like the silver rim one better.

Sweet model dude

[Wilson-3d]

Great start. :) I like the silver whel better also.

[Peoples]

NIce!! - I'd go with the alloy color. It seems like the inside profile of the rim between the "spokes" isn't perfectly round, I dunno.. And the bolt holes have a bit of weird bumps around them - but these minor crits are nothing. It seems like whatever you decide to model&texture, a head or a table scene or a car - you always manage to keep your high standard and quality, and that makes you a very good 3D artist my friend.:beer: :thumbsup: :applause:

[Srek]

Hi,
nice work Thirdeye.
I think you will have to redo the numberplate soon though ;)
Regards
Srek

[kiwi]

Originally posted by Srek
Hi,
nice work Thirdeye.
I think you will have to redo the numberplate soon though ;)
Regards
Srek



Ok I will bite how soon Srek? :D



Stu.

[slouchcorp]

hey stu i think he means 8.1

Mike.

[kiwi]

:scream: Ya of course 8.1...doh!!,I must have had a mass evacuation of neurons :D



Stu.

[ThirdEye]

Originally posted by Peoples
NIce!! - I'd go with the alloy color. It seems like the inside profile of the rim between the "spokes" isn't perfectly round, I dunno.. And the bolt holes have a bit of weird bumps around them - but these minor crits are nothing. It seems like whatever you decide to model&texture, a head or a table scene or a car - you always manage to keep your high standard and quality, and that makes you a very good 3D artist my friend.:beer: :thumbsup: :applause:


Hey thanks a lot Peoples. I still have a couple surprises for you all but you'll see em soon in the gallery forum ;)

[sebek27]

wow! great job thirdeye! did you use the same modeling method that the porsche guy described a few weeks ago ?

[medula]

Sweet! :thumbsup: I'll bet you can't wait to use HRDI to render that puppy!

btw, I'd pick the lighter rim.

Keep up the great work! :airguitar

[ThirdEye]

Originally posted by sebek27
wow! great job thirdeye! did you use the same modeling method that the porsche guy described a few weeks ago ?

Obviously ;)

[sebek27]

can we see some other angles of the car ?

[michaeli]

I love this car!:bounce:

[ThirdEye]

Originally posted by sebek27
can we see some other angles of the car ?

[ThirdEye]

Originally posted by medula
Sweet! :thumbsup: I'll bet you can't wait to use HRDI to render that puppy!

btw, I'd pick the lighter rim.

Keep up the great work! :airguitar


I can't wait to use HDRI, indeed, but 1st i have to finish modeling :arteest:

[malc0lm]

ThirdEye, watch your back now... I'm gonna kill you and absorb your C4D skills!

The reason I started doing 3D is because of Murciélago.
Its not fair! I wanna be "leet" too!


Cheers

[DeathCarrot]

omgomg thidreye :eek:
first your "first" head, now your "first" car... man you never cease to amaze me! :surprised

[ThirdEye]

Thank you dude, stay tuned for next updates :wavey:

[ThirdEye]

Oh I forgot DC: wanna know the truth? Working on my 1st head for 3 months has been the best training ever. I learnt A LOT about modeling, texturing and lighting, all within a single project. Now that i know more about 3D i can face almost any kind of project more easily. ;)

[JIII]

cant wait to see your first animation.

keep it up dude

[AdamT]

Ah, don't puff him up too much; Squid would've finished six cars by now. ;)

Sarcasm aside, it's looking real good ThirdEye.

[ThirdEye]

Originally posted by AdamT
Ah, don't puff him up too much; Squid would've finished six cars by now. ;)

Sarcasm aside, it's looking real good ThirdEye.


Prolly even seven but they'd have eyes and legs too :D

[malc0lm]

ThirdEye, I would really like to know were you found thoes ref. pics of the Murcié!


Cheers

[ThirdEye]

In the modeling forum :p

[medula]

Try here too:

http://www.suurland.com/blueprints_archive.php

[ThirdEye]

update, HDRI + 1 area light with R8 (so the hdr map behaves like a jpeg), A LOT of work with Bhodinut Lumas for the paint shader :rolleyes:

http://digilander.libero.it/ThirdEye_01/fix/murcielago.jpg

[ThirdEye]

wireframe :wavey:

http://digilander.libero.it/ThirdEye_01/fix/wire.jpg

[JIII]

nice clean wire.

makes me realize I need to planmy wires before I start to meddle with my models again.

[AdamT]

The HDR render looks awesome. Where'd you get that HDR image?

[ThirdEye]

I found this link on Maxon's website ;)

http://www.cgtechniques.com/%7Epub/hdri/

[AdamT]

Thanks. Dummy me, I was actually downloading images from that site yesterday but didn't get through all of the galleries.

[ThirdEye]

Btw if you (or anybody else) know some good free hdr pics website please post them here :wavey:

[randyrives]

Love the car and the HDRI render. The mesh looks very clean. Excellent job!

[ThirdEye]

Some new renders (modeling nearly finished), sorry for the pic size but i couldn't do anything better with 10k.

[ThirdEye]

another view

[ThirdEye]

3

[ThirdEye]

last one

[LucentDreams]

We have got to get you some webspace man, these posts just aren't doing your work justice. IM me ASAP

[Anadin]

Those are sweet Third_Eye - makes me feel I need to get back on the old car building...:p

[manlio]

Great work ThirdEye_01. I hope to see a bigger image soon!
:applause:

[Peoples]

:applause: :applause: :applause:

Someone should tie his hands!! I hate you - you're too good. Very nice work - I wan't to be able to produce this kind of quality some day.

:drool: :drool: :drool:

[squidinc]

Originally posted by ThirdEye_01
Prolly even seven but they'd have eyes and legs too :D


lol :D nah, I can't make cars


anyway.. this is looking ace, I gotta find the time to make a car at some point, great work :thumbsup: :beer: :eek:

and until you find some webspace, I'll put this up for you :)

http://www.m1k3.com/cgremote/murcielago.jpg

[ThirdEye]

Thanks Mike, that's the older version of the car with a crappy hdr map and the plastic shader for the car, now i'm using a better one that PerAnders helped me making up. Btw you're right guys, i have to find some webspace :hmm:

[squidinc]

it looks pretty good to me :)

who is your ISP? generally part of the deal is at least 10 or 20 meg of webspace

[ThirdEye]

Originally posted by squidinc
it looks pretty good to me :)

who is your ISP? generally part of the deal is at least 10 or 20 meg of webspace

Yep, it wasn't that bad but the newer one is better :D This is my ISP, unluckily it doesn't give us any free webspace www.fastweb.it i think i have to buy some :hmm:

[paintbox]

Good work ! Like the blue orange contrast. Would love to see it in an environment.

[sebek27]

it's awesome thirdeye !! now I'm starting to see work as good as in the LW gallery done in C4D :applause: ... i mean i've seen a few great pieces, but look at the tons they have in LW... C4D is a younger app so that's probably why and people are just discovering how powerful and easy to use version 8 is !

[ThirdEye]

great Sebek, thank you all guys, here's a bigger pic:

http://homepage.mac.com/mpatton1/murcielago3.jpg

[michaeli]

Nice model and cool render!:thumbsup: :thumbsup:

[phoenixart]

Assolutamente fantastico ThirdEye!

[ThirdEye]

Originally posted by phoenixart
Assolutamente fantastico ThirdEye!

Grazie mille ma ancora non è finita, ne vedrete delle belle ;)

[knight42]

Originally posted by ThirdEye_01
Grazie mille ma ancora non è finita, ne vedrete delle belle ;)

Yeah, what he said... :)

Any chance you could put that paint material in the materials thread? :bowdown:

J

[artemesia66]

Great work. Love the paint shader. :applause:

[ThirdEye]

Originally posted by knight42
Yeah, what he said... :)

Any chance you could put that paint material in the materials thread? :bowdown:

J


It's really simple, and it has been done by Per Anders (mdme_sadie) for his silly scooter: an inverted fresnel multiplied in the colour channel, a hdri map blurred in the environment channel, a fresnel in the reflection channel, that's all. :wavey:

[knight42]

Thanks- I just need a starting point really, as I can't seem to get it right :arteest:

[dandavis]

I hardly feel qualified to critique this great car model and render. So, I'll just say that I'm glad you chose the alloy wheels, they look fantastic as does the whole car. Bravo! -- dano

[randyrives]

Super looking car. I am amazed at the wonderful car models that are being done in C4D now.

[AutoG]

Bravo! Molto Bella!

Re:Tread, Is it texture mapped or modelled?

[ThirdEye]

Thanks, tyres are modeled ;)

[That Adrian Guy]

When do we get to see it in a scene???

[Halogen]

Im loving it, thanks for sharing your skills, it actually helped me alot :). Well have a good one...

[JIII]

this isnt CG related but I just went to an atlanta braves game and from the top of the stadium you could see the player parking and one of the players had a lamborghini murcelago.

I thought this was totally cool..

[pixelbot]

ok I have a HDRI question - is HDRI like radiosity (when it comes to animation) I mean does it flicker from frame to frame?

[LucentDreams]

yet again mis interpretatyion of what HDRI is. HDRI is an image fromat. Is it like radiosity? no. However if you use it for texture illumination thatn your are using it in radiosity, thus it will have same problems (worse because of extreme contrast) since its still radiosity. you can use HDRI as an environment So you get the nice reflections and highlights without the flickering but then its only a reflection its not illuminating the scene

[pixelbot]

I guess I should have been a bit clearer, I meant when using HDRI images as illumination would the animation flicker like radiosity and you answered that - thanks. I don't have access to the advanced render module (just the basic C4D r8.1) so I haven't tried this, but can I use HDRI images as an environment?

thanks

[Per-Anders]

in order to use an image for illumination you will be using radiosity, without radiosity you wont generate any illumination. radiosity unfortunately flickers.

you can use hdri in the environment channel or as a texture on other objects (a sky obejct for isntance) and have it reflected directly as you would any other texture, though this isn't what we normally call illumination (even though it's reflected light), it's hard refleciton. it wont flicker, just as any other ordinary bitmap wont flicker.

[S3D]

... superlative dude...

[ThirdEye]

Originally posted by S3D
... superlative dude...

My car or Per Anders explanation about hdri? :D

[Halogen]

btw how long did this take to construct. Im getting a little disheartened about how long mine is taking (but then again im learning as i go virtually ;))

[Wilson-3d]

Hi Third_Eye01. Great pic. Just wanted to say thanks for posting the quick way you got the car material. I remember mdme_sadie's scooter thing. IF they were posted then I missed it. Really nice texture with out doing much at all.

[Zoogie]

Third,
I absolutely love the model. Real Slick looking
Wow. Good job, pal.

[ThirdEye]

Originally posted by Halogen
btw how long did this take to construct. Im getting a little disheartened about how long mine is taking (but then again im learning as i go virtually ;))


Modeling took a week more or less, the rest... A LOT MORE. ;)

[pixelbot]

I don't have access to the advanced render module (just the basic C4D r8.1) so I haven't tried this, but can I use HDRI images as an environment?


sorry again I wasn't clear so I'll restate my question again, can you use HDRI as an environment without the Advanced Rendering Module? thanks again and BTW what a great looking car - Very nice.

[ThirdEye]

Originally posted by pixelbot
sorry again I wasn't clear so I'll restate my question again, can you use HDRI as an environment without the Advanced Rendering Module? thanks again and BTW what a great looking car - Very nice.

YOU CAN. ;)

[pixelbot]

cool thanks - I know I could have tried it but I'm pretty busy this week

cheers

[S3D]

quote:
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Originally posted by S3D
... superlative dude...
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My car or Per Anders explanation about hdri?

the car, truly the car... :)

I love the color, in fact I havn't seen a color like this on a car since my days playing with "hotwheels"... very way cool... alright, not bad eh... chuckle chuckle... keep up the stuff man... right on

and oh yea... new avatar is cool too :D

[ThirdEye]

[i]
and oh yea... new avatar is cool too :D [/B]

Thank you man :beer:

[ThirdEye]

It's coming, be prepared :bounce:

[squidinc]

cool :thumbsup: but that numberplate looks a bit odd, I dunno about italian cars but most number plates (in the uk anyway) are only held on with two screws not four, it also looks like its covered in dirt :D, lol now THAT was nitpicking :bounce: :applause:

great render :thumbsup:

[ThirdEye]

Here in Italy the screws are four... Btw it's covered in dirt thanks to 100% original C4D GI artifacts :D As already Mash said... "how many C4D users does it take to screw in a lightbulb? 4, one to calculate the GI solution and 3 to get rid of the artifacts in Photoshop". I already calculated the solution, now i need 3 people to get rid of the artifacts in ps :scream:

[JIII]

Sweet thirdeye man that is looking nice.

only thing wrong possibly is the plate like squid already said.

so I will leave it at that and say, man this is probibly the best thing I have seen you do so far.

[hmmdonuts]

That material is really coming along nicely! What have you done to it this time??

Cheers

hmmdonuts

[ThirdEye]

Originally posted by hmmdonuts
That material is really coming along nicely! What have you done to it this time??

Cheers

hmmdonuts

Nothing, simply playing with illumination and tweaking some parameters, the material's basically the same.

[pupii]

:applause: :applause: :applause:
Very very harmonic renders, and perfect modell!

Congratulations!

Pupi

[9nine]

lol numberplat international
in germany we have plasticholders, no srews
http://www.kennzeichenhalterung.de/kennzeichen/kennzeichenrahmen3.jpg http://www.kennzeichenhalterung.de/kennzeichen/kennzeichenrahmen4.jpg

[manlio]

Very nice render ThirdEye! I wanna see the car from other angles!! :bounce: :applause: :thumbsup:

[ThirdEye]

Originally posted by pupii
:applause: :applause: :applause:
Very very harmonic renders, and perfect modell!

Congratulations!

Pupi


Nice to hear such kind comments from a C4D master :)

[JIII]

Man plugged by pupi this is gonna be huge.

Tell us when you post in the Gallery. I just can't wait to see peoples reactions. "cinema can do that???? I thought it was a toy".

Man if we are using a toy then what is not a toy?

[ThirdEye]

;)

[manlio]

Very nice Thirdeye! Maybe with a brighter background would be better, but excellent as usual.
:thumbsup: :airguitar

[DeathCarrot]

:surprised now seriously dude! how do you do it?! that is just too amazaing for your 1st car! :applause:

[JIII]

holy smokes man, I wish I had your determination to tweak the project for months at a time.

man that is front page material if I have ever seen some.

if it wasnt for the radiosity artifacts that would be the best car I have ever seen. gotta get rid of those somehow.

edit: no wait that could be image compression. I can't tell

[sebek27]

you should composite the car into a photograph... looks awesome !

[pit]

:eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :love:

[ThirdEye]

manlio, sebek, pit, DeathCarrot: thanks a lot
JIII: it's only a matter of determination, never be satisfied with what you do. Every time i make a project, a head, a car, or whatever, i look at a ton of photographic references and to what others have done before. The goal should always be to make the best thing possible, make something close to what others already did and surpass that level if possible. The photos observation is always the key. I still think this car can be improved, if you wanna see the best of the best look at www.mackevision.com, they have the best cars i've ever seen.
Thank you all. :)

[pixel8or]

ThirdEye, your link to Mackevision has a comma at the end. I was able to get to the site by removing it. Very impressive stuff. Thanks for posting that.

Your car is awesome! That is some high quality work and it's very inspiring. That's the kind of thing that I look at and think, man, I wanna' do stuff like that!:drool:

[ThirdEye]

I fixed the link, you're right it was wrong. About those Mackevision cars... I talked a bit with their author, there's no raytracing there, all the reflections are environment reflections to have shorter rendertimes :surprised

[flingster]

just looked back on this thread....looked at it originally but didn't post...
very very nice job...like it a lot.
good work...:thumbsup:

[ThirdEye]

Ok what do you think about a silver version? Black or silver? I'm a bit hesitant :hmm:

(special thanks to Eklettica for his webspace)

www.eklettica.com/thirdeye/1.jpg

[DeathCarrot]

ooh... umm... try a yellow one... but out of the 2, i like the silver one better, great job! :bounce:

[medula]

Silver! :thumbsup:

[Baldasseroni]

****solutely amazing!
Can`t wait to see it completed and in the gallery!

:bounce:

Ciao, Ale

[flingster]

i prefer the black one on a white floor...and a lot brighter than it is....

silver one is cool...but wing mirror stands out as looking to black? however i'm not really sure how it would be on the original car...so i leave that to you.

think you really got the glass...and paint finish very very well.
:thumbsup:

[bgreg03]

that is one tight WIP dude gj

[Emberghost]

THIS HAS TO BE THE NICEST LOOKING CG CAR I HAVE EVER SEEN! No joke either. You did a truely fantastic job bud.

[JIII]

Damn man that is beautiful I like the silver one better. of course I havent seen an uncompressed red or black one either.

you could always make it into like a car dealer scene and have them in like all the diffrent colors. but thats kind of a work around with out choosing what is really the best.

Well i can't see to much if anything to change but... thats probibly because I did not make the wire or do the textures or anything. So I can't look at it like you can and say geez maybe I need to thicken that a bit.

[squidinc]

waaaaay cool:thumbsup: :eek:
I prefer the silver one, because I can see the details better
a blue one would be nice too, do a showroom image with a few different colours

[kiwi]

Excellent :thumbsup: :thumbsup:



I am going to go with silver as well :)




A car showroom,ya excellent idea Squid,on one of those rotating podiums would look cool :)





Stu.

[Peoples]

Unbelievable....:eek: :eek: Silver is my vote!!:applause: :applause:

[eokorie]

your work is absolute quality.... u need to post the silver one in the gallery.... time to show these gusy what Cinema 4D is capable of....

[sebek27]

thirdeye, your car is so awesome ! when will you post it in the gallery so non believers can drool over it ? I do prefer the silver one since you see all the great details ! how about an orange ? :eek:

[ThirdEye]

Thank you all a lot. I think i'll go for a silver one, it's more elegant than the orange one and it's more clear than a black one. I excluded the red colour because red is the colour of Ferrari's. The only possible colours for this kind of metallic shader are silver, black and orange. All the other colours of the Murcielago (blue, yellow, green, white) are made with a different kind of material, a pearlescent one, more plastic, less reflective and not so stunning imo. I have to model the brakes and a couple details, then i'll make some renders to composite in a single pic within some frames. I think i'll finish everything in a week. There's no need to rush now, 90% of the work is done, i wanna finish the remaining 10% in the best way possible. Then you'll see it in the cgtalk gallery :)

[xeqtr]

WOW :applause:

Nice one...very clean and stylish...wanna see more pictures :thumbsup:

[Shademaster]

Yeayeayea! Silver one! :bounce: Your murcielago is so super cool! Truly an eye opener regarding Cinema's modelling tools.
:)

[DeathCarrot]

heh, i saw one in the flesh yesterday, one thing i can say.. dont make it lime green!! :surprised

[geoffb]

I am blown away. You're car is definate inspiration to me. I can't wait to see it in the gallery.

One quick question. You said earlier that you used bhoudiNuts for your shader, correct? Which once did you start with? I'm modeling a Ferrari right now, so when I get to that point I kinda need some tips on where to start. Thanks, and great job!

Geoff

[ThirdEye]

Inverted fresnel multiplied in the colour channel, nothing more.

[squidinc]

http://www.renderosity.com/messages.ez?ForumID=12400&Form.ShowMessage=1225782

lol, have you seen this? some guy accused you of posting a photo on renderosity :D

[ThirdEye]

HAHAHAHAHA!! I can't believe it :scream: I'll post the pic in the cgtalk gallery soon ;)

[ThirdEye]

http://www.cgtalk.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=60476 It's finished :wavey: :applause:

[JIII]

Congrats on the front page thirdeye.

[pixel8or]

Congrats, ThirdEye! I've been reading that WIP all along. Nice work. And I can't think of a greater compliment than being accused of posting a photo.:beer:

[Kotayus]

just saw you on the front page, congrats Thirdeye!

I saw that post at renderosity too, classic.

[manlio]

Ciao Thirdeye! You are really great!
Only a question, for the material what do you mean for "inverted" bodhi nut fresnel. I know the last one but I don't know what is inverted in this case. Thanks!

Congratulazioni! :applause: :applause: :bounce: :thumbsup:

P.s. I'm building a porsche carrera thanks to KevinA and to you. I'll post very soon a wip

[ThirdEye]

Originally posted by manlio
Ciao Thirdeye! You are really great!
Only a question, for the material what do you mean for "inverted" bodhi nut fresnel. I know the last one but I don't know what is inverted in this case. Thanks!

Congratulazioni! :applause: :applause: :bounce: :thumbsup:

P.s. I'm building a porsche carrera thanks to KevinA and to you. I'll post very soon a wip


Inverted = delete the grey colour in the middle of the fresnel gradient and invert the position of black and white. ;)

[manlio]

Thanks Alberto. I understood correctly but I was thinking to miss something. ;)

[ThirdEye]

Originally posted by manlio
Thanks Alberto. I understood correctly but I was thinking to miss something. ;)

No problem, you're welcome Manlio :wavey:

[dg3d]

Very good CG Car ThirdEye_01, like your black one. Man you are good. :applause:

[ThirdEye]

You wanted a silver version? Here it comes, hope you like it! :)

http://www.cgtalk.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=60476&perpage=15&pagenumber=8

(comments in the gallery thread please)

[unzero4d]

nice work

[ThirdEye]

Originally posted by unzero4d
nice work

Thanks :)

[Mifa]

hey third eye i dont know if u rememer me i was talking to u and Adam T long time ago i think my old name was Aled id u rember me i just want to tell u that u do a really nice work man but i just want to know somthing.
Ur car how u made it by cube or by points like un the Audi S3 tut ??? thx for answar me :)

[ThirdEye]

I used the same method that KevinA explained here in this forum, make a search and you'll find it.

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