"The Ten Commandments" CG feature

[unseenthings]

Looks outstanding! Can't wait.

Can you tell us a little about the apps/software you guys used to animate it?

[BillB]

Thanks! Darn You Tube compression.

Rendered and animated all in maya (with Maya Software renderer - ai carumba!), comp'd with After Effects, Premiere Pro for animatic/editing. Made in 15 months, with a crazy small budget and team, as these things go - the crew all did an amazing job. It darn near killed some of us!

We're well underway now with the next in the series of Epic Tales with "The Flood" - should be a lot of fun, we've got a great script, a lot more creative freedom as the biblical account is more of an outline compared to the well known/defined Moses' story. Plus no one has really done it before, unlike Ten Commandments which came with a weighty heritage courtesy of DeMille and Dreamworks ;)

[Boone]

I knew it - Elliot Gould is God! Now we got a name AND a face! :D

[ParamountCell]

Thanks! Darn You Tube compression.

Rendered and animated all in maya (with Maya Software renderer - ai carumba!), comp'd with After Effects, Premiere Pro for animatic/editing. Made in 15 months, with a crazy small budget and team, as these things go - the crew all did an amazing job. It darn near killed some of us!

We're well underway now with the next in the series of Epic Tales with "The Flood" - should be a lot of fun, we've got a great script, a lot more creative freedom as the biblical account is more of an outline compared to the well known/defined Moses' story. Plus no one has really done it before, unlike Ten Commandments which came with a weighty heritage courtesy of DeMille and Dreamworks ;)

I always thought that the flood would make a good cg animation! All the best wishes with this well done.

[Fess]

I was waiting a long time for a remake of "10 commandments".

I'm somewhat disappointed its a "all CG" film. :banghead:

I was expecting/hoping for it to be of epic proportions as the original.
The CG combined with real actors & true storyline would have been behemoth as a visual.



Fess

[puch]

Thanks! Darn You Tube compression.

Rendered and animated all in maya (with Maya Software renderer - ai carumba!), comp'd with After Effects, Premiere Pro for animatic/editing. Made in 15 months, with a crazy small budget and team, as these things go - the crew all did an amazing job. It darn near killed some of us!

We're well underway now with the next in the series of Epic Tales with "The Flood" - should be a lot of fun, we've got a great script, a lot more creative freedom as the biblical account is more of an outline compared to the well known/defined Moses' story. Plus no one has really done it before, unlike Ten Commandments which came with a weighty heritage courtesy of DeMille and Dreamworks ;)

Any idea on the budget?

[BillB]

"Elliot Gould is God"

:) Elliot was great, just the right combination of strength and intimacy we wanted.

"Any idea on the budget"

I can't disclose the budget, but think of a small number, then halve it.

[gunslingerblack]

im sorry but does anyone think this movie looks slightly outdated?

i mean the characters look like they were taken from the first ice age movie, and overall the "sizzle reel" has a very "direct to dvd" look to it. there has already been one animated moses movie, and it doesn't look like this one is gonna be able to stand up to comparison.

[el_diablo]

I personally never seen an animated feature and thought:

"Yes, it has a very interesting story, or is very funny, but that lack of SSS on characters makes it suck."

I did however think after seeing many animated features:

"Yes this state of art animation and/or rendering but this movie is anything but interesting"

That said, this movie may lack both, or have both - visuals and content, I still wont go to cinema to see it (I'm not really into biblical movies).


im sorry but does anyone think this movie looks slightly outdated?

i mean the characters look like they were taken from the first ice age movie, and overall the "sizzle reel" has a very "direct to dvd" look to it. there has already been one animated moses movie, and it doesn't look like this one is gonna be able to stand up to comparison.

[gunslingerblack]

my point is that your gonna have to do something more than just make it cg to have the movie do well. since everyone is jumping on the cg bandwagon, it takes alittle more than just "being cg" to sell tickets.

[cresshead]

well it does have one key ingredient that all films need to be successful...''a good story''
..if it was rendered in poser it would still have a head start over most other traditional films as the story is a 'known thing' and a good solid one at that....a great base to make a decent film.

so good, bad or ugly, cg images do not make or break a film but the ''story'' ususally does.

[Flog]

It's missing SSS lighting, I don't want to see it. :) Nah this does look like a direct to video but something I will watch. I like movies done on half budgets as well, looks like htey got great actors.

I would love to see other Bible stories come out, like the story of DAvid or something like that. I think I'll do that, and then do it in Poser! Hmmmmm that's an idea. :)

[FloydBishop]

my point is that your gonna have to do something more than just make it cg to have the movie do well. since everyone is jumping on the cg bandwagon, it takes alittle more than just "being cg" to sell tickets.

I think CG is beyond the bandwagon stage now. It's a medium that many people use.

The fact that this film is a religious one will sell tickets. The end.

There are more than a few CG projects that feature religion that most people in the main stream don't even know about, yet they continue to sell. While most of these are direct to video releases, they do get theatrical screenings in certain areas. I think this film will do well, at leat making back it's production costs and then some.

[gunslingerblack]

well it does have one key ingredient that all films need to be successful...''a good story''
..if it was rendered in poser it would still have a head start over most other traditional films as the story is a 'known thing' and a good solid one at that....a great base to make a decent film.

so good, bad or ugly, cg images do not make or break a film but the ''story'' ususally does.

my apologies i wasn't aware the movie was released and you've seen it already to tell me it has a good story.EDIT: story is important but the characters and look of the film has to be appealing to draw in audiences. humans are visual creatures and without pretty pictures and promo trailers, even the greatest movie ever will have trouble.

the entire bible is one of the greatest "stories" ever written, theres still alittle bit that goes into translating aspects of it to film. just because the story of moses is a great literary work doesn't mean you get the movie version for free.

I think CG is beyond the bandwagon stage now. It's a medium that many people use.


coming from you floyd this statement doesn't hold that much water for me. devry institute plays a great commercial every day saying "you dont wanna be left behind do you, get into the exciting world of game making today at devry." or as i like to say "jump on the cg bandwagon and give us your money". there are a ton of schools that market like this to the next generation of students. then they work the crap out of them till they are totally burnt out, and usually the cream of the crop emerges and gets jobs, flooding the cg market with disillusioned graduates who can't find work at anywhere besides third rate studios where they sometimes go weeks and even months (on occasion) without getting paid. a buddy of mine was telling me about some guy who is trying to form his own studio saying "i have a job lined up and computers in my office, but i can't pay you until the dvd makes money." AND THERE ARE PEOPLE WHO ARE WILLING TO ACCEPT THOSE CONDITIONS.

The fact that this film is a religious one will sell tickets. The end.


religion is responsible for alot of things, as a certain man living in a white house will attest to.

There are more than a few CG projects that feature religion that most people in the main stream don't even know about, yet they continue to sell. While most of these are direct to video releases, they do get theatrical screenings in certain areas. I think this film will do well, at leat making back it's production costs and then some.


i see, profit sharing may be a good idea then if someone were presented with a contract for such a gig.

[GingerDave]

The story is a bit of a no brainer isnt it dont you think? i mean its not like youd need to lock yourself in a room for days on end to plot out the beginning middle and end of the story.

maybe they blew the budget on the voice actors, it a fairly impressive cast.

the visuals look outdated and the animation does look a little clunky but its not the finished product so who knows?


However, CG these days maybe becoming more affordable but if you arent "pushing the envelope" visually, people ( especially on cg boards) aren't goin to be impressed.

[cresshead]

very true about the cg forum people not being too impressed unless it's as good as shrek/pixar but the ''audience'' do not frequent this forum really do they!...

not saying their dumb or lacking in our 'eyes' on cg quality but it only need to be 'good enough' for them to buy a ticket or dvd....i mean most people call these and what pixar/dreamworks creat 'cartoons' and not cg films...

[picolo]

sounds great !!

[Glenfx]

Im not onto yet another bible movie.

But i think that technicly you should have worked much more on lightning and mood. I dont mind the animation (which is not great.. its just ok) so at least you would have put more efforts on the final color and illumination instead of the default software lightning & rendering.

The water splitting part was great though, but the egiptian's stampeed was way bad.

I dont know how much money was given to the "actors" which i think it might have been much more than the whole 3D production, but shoudnt the CG be more important than just the "voices"??

(i hate movies that sell "Voice acting" more than the product as a whole:shrug: )

[NicolasJordan]

Looks like it was lots of work. I will reserve final judgment until I have seen it. I never totally liked the Dreamworks version that much because it really only told half of the story.

I wonder why the Maya render engine was used instead of something like the built in mental ray or some other powerful renderer. The Maya render tends to produce a light muddy look when compared even to something rendered in Mental Ray, Maxwell, Brazil etc. This native Maya look can be seen on countless demo reels from 3D students applying for jobs in the industry. As others have mentioned the lighting could be improved. In the end it will still serve it's purpose though and that purpose is to tell a story with animation. :) Congradulations to everyone who worked on it! I am still very curious why Maya was used to render?

[BillB]

We used the Maya render engine for two reasons - speed and cost. We didn't have time or budget to ramp up on another engine, or pay for it. That said, I think when you see the final renders at decent res, as opposed to on YouTube, you won't be quite so hard on us. I'll freely admit character animation was our weakest area, that said it's not as bad as some are trying to make out. I also think we did some great lighting work - reserve judgement until you've seen the final product, as someone suggested.

We couldn't have made the film at all if we'd tried to make it look like a $120m film. At the end of the day, story is king. The screenings we've done have been very well received, by kids and adults alike. That's all I care about :)

Oh, and we most certainly did not blow our budget on voices! Not even close. I can also assure you that nobody behind this film was in it to cash in on the "CG film bandwagon". It was actually going to be 2D, but we talked them around. As someone said, it's just a medium, the one we happen to work in. It's now a medium big enough to have a spread of budgets, just like live action films. People need to get out of that mindset, people here most of all I'd have thought.

[BillB]

Incidentally, the "sizzle reel" was done several months ago, hence the emphasis on the voice cast, there wasn't a lot of finished footage available. I guess it does make it look a bit like we're pumping it based on the voice talent :) But they were worth every penny, I gotta say, they added a phenomenal amount to the film - talented people!

[NicolasJordan]

Thanks for the reply BillB. I used the native Maya renderer for a year(before the days of mental ray) and was able to output some stuff that looked decent. I think most of the renders in the clips look good considering what you had to work with. I guess I am just to used to seeing GI all the time in renders and I have probably become accustomed to it. How long is the final film?

[Lamster]

Honestly,

I feel like I have to be fair when I say that watching the sizzle reel made me feel like the production team tried very had to work within the means imposed on them. Unfortunately, the sizzle reel didn't make me feel drawn to the film at all, due to the already high expectations that I have for CG films due to being spoilt by stuff like The Incredibles and Finding Nemo.

As you have said, the youtube video does no justice to the real thing. I'll give you that. And also, the reel mentioned that this movie isn't just about parting the red sea. So it might actually cover more ground into the journey of the tribes of Israel to their promised land over the 40 years in the desert, and hence bring a fresher story to the movie audiences rather than one that has already been covered by 2 very well received movies of yore.

I sincerely hope that your film will be as well received as the previous few. I'll buy a ticket to watch it when it comes out. :)

Terence

[BillB]

I guess I am just to used to seeing GI all the time in renders and I have probably become accustomed to it. How long is the final film?
Yeah, we've done some renders since some of our sets with GI/AO and it does make a big difference. Wasn't an option on Ten, it was our first film and the mantra was Keep It Simple, but for Flood we're certainly looking to lift our game, better animation, better renders - it should be a good step up. But in spite of the limits there are some great shots in Ten - and it's 88 minutes by the way.

[BillB]

... it might actually cover more ground into the journey of the tribes of Israel to their promised land over the 40 years in the desert, and hence bring a fresher story to the movie audiences Yep, we go from birth to death. Squeezing all that into 90 minutes was hard - I could totally understand why it's often ended at the Red Sea!
And thanks for the presale Terrence ;)

[paul.yan]

Does this come from a different angle than Prince of Egypt?

[Larry_g1s]

You know, if it stays close to the Biblical account, count me and my family in. :thumbsup:

As far as the quality goes, I love seeing astounding graphics, etc, who doesn't. But personally, one of my more favorite animated films is Hoodwinked. Not Pixar looking, but a solid & fun story using the medium of 3D graphics. And on the opposite end of the spectrum, I think Dreamworks produces some of the most visually better animations, but just about everyone of their movies has felt more like an extended short, due to the shallowness of the story. :shrug:

[cresshead]

not seen Hoodwinked yet...would you say it's a rent or a buy dvd?

[Goon]

given the subject matter for this and your next film, is your studio bankrolled by religious organizations, or at least focused chiefly on that ridiculously large market?

I suppose this might be treading on cgtalk's no religion policy, but I'm curious if the studio is a religious studio and what effect that might have on the work environment?

[Capel]

it a fairly impressive cast.
.

really? christian slater as moses? and ben kingsley has fallen quite a ways since Schindler's List. seems like he'll do just about anything to add a few more million to his bank account. meh, everything about this movie screams "take advantage of the giant christian population" because they'll see it no matter how good the quality. and that includes more than just "story". i just don't see the point of making a crappier version of "the prince of egypt".

[cresshead]

really? christian slater as moses? and ben kingsley has fallen quite a ways since Schindler's List. seems like he'll do just about anything to add a few more million to his bank account. meh, everything about this movie screams "take advantage of the giant christian population" because they'll see it no matter how good the quality. and that includes more than just "story". i just don't see the point of making a crappier version of "the prince of egypt".

so you've seen the finished movie in the cinema then?
...or are you basing your ''review'' on 10 seconds of footage hosted on youtube?

now i personally do not believe in a god or gods or any religion at all, but it's a nice story
and 'prince of egypt' wasn't exactly a materpeice of a film now was it?....

i'd say give them their due and reserve your judgement till you can actually go see it...
or at least until we see some reviews once it's released either at the cinema or on dvd and we can read people's reaction over on amazon.com for the dvd.

capel...love your website btw....ideal for what exactly!
''rubber raincoat'' anyone?
http://www.capel3d.com/

[DZL]

really? christian slater as moses? and ben kingsley has fallen quite a ways since Schindler's List. seems like he'll do just about anything to add a few more million to his bank account. meh, everything about this movie screams "take advantage of the giant christian population" because they'll see it no matter how good the quality. and that includes more than just "story". i just don't see the point of making a crappier version of "the prince of egypt".

Before posting, please review the following:


Be courteous and polite. Show respect to the opinions and feelings of others. Use of the forums is a privilege, not a right.
Re-read that before posting again, please.

This might suprise you, but Moses is recognized and revered in both Judiasm and Islam as well.

and why not try to appeal to an audience that is often overlooked by hollywood? why is that inherently bad?

I reserve judgement until I see the final film - and I applaud them for what must've been an incredibly challenging undertaking.

[FloydBishop]

There are a lot of bitter people in this industry. :)

Congratulations on finishing the film, and good luck with your next one.

[Capel]

so you've seen the finished movie in the cinema then?


don't need to. and i won't be seeing this on dvd either. i'd rather eat my own toenails than listen to christian slater play moses. geez some of you guys need to relax and maybe read through my post more than once before freaking out. i'm referring to the SUBJECT MATTER. an animated movie about the story of moses was done less than ten years ago. whether or not THAT FILM was stellar has nothing to do with it. it's just too soon to be doing pretty much the exact same movie again UNLESS (and here's where you slower folks need to pay close attention) you're aiming for the christian direct-to-dvd demographic, which they seem to be. hence my comment, "everything about this movie screams 'take advantage of the giant christian population'". it'd be like remaking aladdin or the lion king. too soon. but they know they can do it cuz the christian population will be more than happy to have another adaptation of one of their favorite bible stories. smart move financially, but creatively there's not a whole lot more you can do with it.

capel...love your website btw....ideal for what exactly!
''rubber raincoat'' anyone?
http://www.capel3d.com/

not sure what you're getting at here. could you elaborate?

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it's funny that you skip right over cresshead's going completely off topic in an "attempt" to bash my website (which, by the way, is hilarious. i guess he failed to realize that my website being down is largely due to the fact that i don't care) and try to call me out as being impolite because i have a different opinion about this film.



This might suprise you, but Moses is recognized and revered in both Judiasm and Islam as well.


i know. what does that have to do with ANYTHING i've said?



and why not try to appeal to an audience that is often overlooked by hollywood? why is that inherently bad?


i never said nor implied it was. like i said, in the future re-read my post a couple times before responding.


There are a lot of bitter people in this industry.

you wouldn't be referring to me would you? because that would be silly.

[DZL]

Quote:
Originally Posted by cresshead
This might suprise you, but Moses is recognized and revered in both Judiasm and Islam as well.



i know. what does that have to do with ANYTHING i've said?

from your 1st post: "meh, everything about this movie screams "take advantage of the giant christian population" because they'll see it no matter how good the quality."

just pointing out the audience is actually larger than the 'giant christian population' you refer to.

movies are created to make money, what's the big deal here?

[Capel]

just pointing out the audience is actually larger than the 'giant christian population' you refer to.

agreed.

movies are created to make money, what's the big deal here?

un-agreed.

yes, there is a business side to it. but any good filmmaker will ask him or herself if a film NEEDS to be made. this one doesn't, but they're doing it anyway to make money. smart folks from a financial standpoint, but that's about it.


ok i just watched it again. some really interesting similarities to an animated moses movie that's already been done but shall remain nameless. "all the firstborn in egypt were struck..." geez, talk about plagiarism. that shot looks almost lifted from PoE. ...sweet.

[BillB]

As I already pointed out, what's different is we tell the whole story, not just up to crossing the Red Sea.

Plagiarism? That line is pretty much straight out of the Bible. One of our biggest challenges was to do our own thing, and not look like a POE ripoff - I happen to really like POE but my co-Director and our writer had never even seen it. (Be very careful with written accusations like that.)

Ben Kingsley (or any of the others) didn't cost us anything like the figures being bandied about, and his closing narration in the film has reduced some people to tears, it's beautiful. Worth 10x what we paid him.

We're about making family friendly faith-based films and television. We're not about exploiting/taking advantage of anyone. But you have to be able to make money, or you won't be given any to start with. This is a business, but as Capel says, you also want to feel like you're doing something worthwhile. As mentioned, we go way beyond POE in scope, and we portray Moses differently (which Christian Slater was perfect for).

We made a nice movie, I think. Later in the year, you guys can be the judge :)

[Capel]

Plagiarism? That line is pretty much straight out of the Bible. One of our biggest challenges was to do our own thing, and not look like a POE ripoff - I happen to really like POE but my co-Director and our writer had never even seen it. (Be very careful with written accusations like that.)

sigh... i was referring to the SHOT. the little white whispys that fly around and steal the breath of all the children. it looks almost exactly the same design-wise.

[BillB]

To be fair, if you look at how you structured what you said, it reads the way I took it! But thanks for the clarification.

We agonised over the Angel of Death look for months, there's only so many ways to do it! I think when you put what we did next to POE you'll find them quite different.

[Capel]

nope, sorry. pay more attention when responding. that's all i have to say about that.

[BillB]

."all the firstborn in egypt were struck..." geez, talk about plagiarism.
Any full stops are your own. That's all I have to say about that.

[cresshead]

you got me onboard for a dvd purchase.
hope it comes to the uk soon or i'll get the usa dvd from amazon when it's available.

looking forward to the flood too btw.

[harmonic01]

Any full stops are your own. That's all I have to say about that.

To be perfectly fair, the following sentence is a dead give away that he was talking about the shot, not the story.
"that shot looks almost lifted from PoE. ...sweet."

This doesn't mean I'm supporting anyone here, btw. :)

good luck with the film. I'm sure it will do well financially.

[csmallfield]

I just have to say the word plagiarism means "copying langage". But that's semantics, literally.

This thread has gotten silly, BillB was nice enough to post a movie up showing some work that he and his co-workers had done and people are taking it into poitical, religious and accusatory places. The point of this forum, if I am not mistaken, is CONSTRUCTIVE criticism. Calling things ripoffs, "crappier versions", or any other uselessly negative thing is not constructive.

I would like to see the clip myself so I could actually comment on it, but it seems to be down.

[Grgeon]

I saw it the same as you Bill, but as you said he clarified it. When do you think we'll be seeing a full rez trailer you think?

-George

[BillB]

The Producers have removed the clip, due to concerns about the compression quality. Hopefully we'll have a proper trailer up sometime soon, then the fun can really begin :D

[BillB]

given the subject matter for this and your next film, is your studio bankrolled by religious organizations, or at least focused chiefly on that ridiculously large market?
I suppose this might be treading on cgtalk's no religion policy, but I'm curious if the studio is a religious studio and what effect that might have on the work environment? We're not bankrolled by Christian organisations as such - some of our investors on Ten were, but not even close to a majority. As a studio, we're Christian in principle and principals, but we don't force our crew to say prayers or anything before starting the day :) There's nothing day to day out of the ordinary other than it being a great place to work.

Eep, believe it or not I only just noticed where Chris Capel works. Chris, great work on Over the Hedge (not seen Flushed yet). Tim Johnson came by our studio not long ago - great guy.

[GingerDave]

I just have to say the word plagiarism means "copying langage". But that's semantics, literally.

This thread has gotten silly, BillB was nice enough to post a movie up showing some work that he and his co-workers had done and people are taking it into poitical, religious and accusatory places. The point of this forum, if I am not mistaken, is CONSTRUCTIVE criticism. Calling things ripoffs, "crappier versions", or any other uselessly negative thing is not constructive.

I would like to see the clip myself so I could actually comment on it, but it seems to be down.

quoted for agreement.


Although i was harsh in my reaction to the trailer posted on youtube, i must congratulate you on completing and managing a project of this size, its more than i and many others could hope to acheive. and thank you for being so open as to discuss your work with everyone.

I do have a question though BillB.

Through making a large project like this, what would you say was the biggest thing you have learned from it? personally and professionally?

[BillB]

Through making a large project like this, what would you say was the biggest thing you have learned from it? personally and professionally? Thanks GingerDave. Being our first Film, both for me and the Studio, there was a lot of learning going on! Biggest thing? The importance of sleep to your mental well-being :thumbsup: We were zombies by the end of this thing, amazing what it does to your personality. This ain't life-and-death, what we're doing, and I hope we never have to put ourselves thru that again! Don't kill yourself, it's only a movie! And at 3am of the 20th straight day at work, if you're not a nice person inside, you workmates will know about it - learn to get on with others. Something our guys were all amazing at, I can't remember any major cat fights :)

Apart from that, and not to sound like a cliched Oscar-speech, but it is such a team effort. It's amazing what a bunch of people working together can achieve, that no one individual could. There are some amazing shorts out there done by one guy, but when you pool your strengths, you can do so much more! Film is the epitome of that maxim. I'm one of those "do it yourself if you want it done right" kinda people, and learning to delegate and let others do their thing was the parallel lesson for me. Which I'm still learning :)

My personal lesson? "What is impossible for Man, is possible with God" became my mantra.

[Diabolos]

Almost posted a new thread, but I used search - go me :P

Here is the official trailer:

http://www.apple.com/trailers/independent/thetencommandments/trailer/

I am not too impressed and the subject isn't my cup of tea, but I can see how other people may enjoy the film. I think we are too critical, because of the high standards we are surrounded by, but I do not think that a child will mind about the CG quality, nor the non cg-related viewer.

D,

[gunslingerblack]

i dunno if putting out this sort of low quality stuff is gonna make the good stuff look better, or just make people more sick of cg, because diablos is right. i dont think regular people care about quality.

[requiem]

Man, it's frustrating to see something like this on the tails of hoodwinked. I can't help but feel there's this concerning trend of taking a straight to dvd budget, adding big name actors and putting it on the bigscreen.
Obviously, fewer people will go to see something like this, but it doesn't matter as much if you make it for cheap and have generous profit margines. The investors put less into it, make more if it succeeds and lose less if it flops. I'm a bit incredulous when I hear artists defending the practice. If the film succeeds, they don't get anything out of it but poor wages and a black spot on their resume.
I too am a bit confused about making the film again. Dreamworks did it, did it fairly recently and did it better. Especially the "whales in the red sea" shot. They just did it shorter.

BillB: I'm not trying to personally attack you. I realize a lot of effort was put into this. I'm impressed by the humility you've shown in answering the criticisms in this thread. I'm just putting an opinion out there.

[Breinmeester]

One of our biggest challenges was to do our own thing, and not look like a POE ripoff - I happen to really like POE but my co-Director and our writer had never even seen it.

This is contradicting to me. It was a challenge to make something not look like somehting you've never seen? If you want to make something different than what's already there then you would at least watch what you want to stay away from, would you not?

I have to agree with Capel that there seem to be a lot of similarities with Prince of Egypt in the approach to tell the same story. If you were really trying to make it not look like Prince of Egypt, from what I've seen untill now, I would have to conclude you've failed.

You've said before you didn't think Prince of Egypt is a masterpiece. It might indeed not be one of the best animated films of all time, but it's still a tough film to beat and from what I've seen in the posted clip and from the information you've posted, you didn't have the means to succeed at that. So why make this film in the first place? Why not start out with 'The Flood' or any other biblical story that has not been done yet?
Because of the similarities I can imagine Capel calling it a 'crappier version of PoE', although it might be a little harsh. You could've known that comparison would be made. I would never have the illusion I could surpass a film so nicely designed, rich in colour and well told with beautiful animation from the likes of James Baxter. At least, not on that budget. ;)

Someone asked if the film has a different angle than Prince of Egypt. I'm still very curious of that. I really like the Prince of Egypt's focus on the bond between the two brothers. This film would have to have a different angle to be original.

To everyone who believes we should only post pats on eachothers backs; I think it's interesting and important to discuss stuff like this. I would really like to know why one would want to make a movie like this. If you sincerely only want 'constructive criticism' then here's mine: Looks like you guys did a lot of work.

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