How should I begin character modelling ?

[Pionier]

hm maybe try this product of 3Dtotal?

http://www.3dtotal.com/services/female_character_creation/modeling-eva.asp

[Hagelades]

Yeah, that DVD is looking good. I need to buy it :). Thanks Pionier.
Maybe anyone else know some tutorials or training DVD about character modelling of a man ?
I will be really thankful.

[formerself]

3d buzz has a really good step by step video tut on making an alien.

http://www.3dtotal.com/ffa/tutorials/max/joanofarc/joanmenu.asp thats the joan of arc tut its pretty detailed

[Hagelades]

Thanks guys ! :) But I have few more questions. What do You think about this training DVD: http://www.thegnomonworkshop.com/dvds/ijo01.html.

1) That DVD is good for beginners ?

2) Is it "step by step" ?

Best regards,
LooneY

[Waha]

I know this is a text tutorial, but it is quite good (but hard to understand)

http://www.subdivisionmodeling.com/forums/showthread.php?t=907

btw, you should practice character modeling instead of just reading it

[Hagelades]

Thanks Waha ! Now I know where I can find theory about organic modelling, these are very helpful :).

[SebKaine]

well i'm a very average modeller myself , but at the end , i find that the only difficulty whith modelling is not the technical side ! In maya you use maybe 6 or 7 tools always and always , repeating the same things ! Extrude / Merge / Spilt / Soft mod / Cleanup ...

The only difficulty is to know exactly what you whant to Do PRECISLY ! so if you want to model a face in 4 days !
- Dont' Touch maya for 2 days , study your topology on photshop or painter , choose exactly where you want to put the flow of your edge loop get a max of reference photos , study the details , ask yourself how to achieve the finer details, Take inspiration from topology from other guys ...
- Then When you know exactly what you want to do ... Start with maya and spend the 2 other days in the execution . All the hard part was done previously , you know where you wanna go , and all you have to do is create the topology you have design !

Modeling it's easy very easy , but good modeling is really hard cause most of us , and me the first just start and rush into the computer , without thinking about what they do !

and this is even more true for animation ...

[Hagelades]

Yeah, that seems to be very important and it's really good option to draw topology on image.

Thanks SebKaine !

[phudgey]

Just brought the eva wild dvd few days ago, this is possibly the best dvd i have ever seen, he takes you through every aspect of the female figure, great for the beginer artist and the more advanced artist.

[GArriola83]

that dvd ranges from novice modelers to advanced modelers, since he kinda expects people to know the program very well and his pace is more of an advanced modeler's. it is step by step and if you pay attention enough or scrub back and forth to see what he did, you'll begin to understand. but he does a few things in there that are not spoken and are just general knowledge of 3ds max, just to let you know.

Thanks guys ! :) But I have few more questions. What do You think about this training DVD: http://www.thegnomonworkshop.com/dvds/ijo01.html.

1) That DVD is good for beginners ?

2) Is it "step by step" ?

Best regards,
LooneY

[Hagelades]

Thanks Giancarlo ! I think that the best way will be Eva Training DVD's, but when I end Eva's project I will provide myself with Gnomon's DVD.

Thanks one more to everyone for helping ! :)

Best regards,
LooneY

[dablik]

hey looney,

did you try organic modeling series on www.3dtutorials.sk (http://www.3dtutorials.sk) ?

[Hagelades]

Wow ! Thanks dablik, some of these tutorials are really nice ! :)

[SebKaine]

Thanks for this excellent link Diablik , i didn't know it ! Excellent stuff out there !

[gaiXyn]

to be honest, the best thing to do I would say is to just jump into it.....asking questions first doesn't really help, you have to put it to practice, then you can post your results and have folks C&C on it....I don't think you have to buy anyDVD to learn, just on CGTalk alone there's a crazy amount of data...not to mention the web in gerenal....if someone models something you like.....ask them about it....what I've found in my experience is after awhile, you'll develop yourOwn style for character modeling....topology is important to some degree, but you'll end up finding one that works for you down the line anyways.....but most importantly, know your anatomy....it'll make modeling alot easier

hey dablik, nice link! :thumbsup:


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[dablik]

hey folks :)

I'm happy that you like it :)

[Hagelades]

Ok, that's the first step of face which I'm trying to create:

MS:

http://img66.imageshack.us/img66/2573/joan1meshfq1.jpg

NON MS:

http://img66.imageshack.us/img66/376/joan1outmeshdy6.jpg

Please C&C about the wireframe :) and what I have to correct !

Best regards,
LooneY

[dablik]

good beginning :) shall it be high poly face?

[Hagelades]

Okay, that's the next step:

http://img219.imageshack.us/img219/1109/joan2nextstepks1.jpg

And one more thing. I have got a problem with selection one vertex on a symmetry line. I cannot select just one, but when I clicking on vertex beside, it marking 3 vertices at the same time :/. Please help me ! :)

http://img241.imageshack.us/img241/5237/joanproblemui8.jpg

Best regards,
LooneY

[nexgirl]

The Training dvd from 3dtotal is probably the best training dvd for 3D max for character modeling for beginners, the one from gnomer is WAY! complex and you need very good knoladge of max and modeling before you even attempt it, i know as i got both ^^.

but by far the text turorial joan of arc is the best one to use, it's free and you cant beat it for detail.

[Hagelades]

Thanks nexgirl for Your opinion. It's very helpful for me :).

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