why nodes based?

[scrimski]

And your actual question is?

[chandro]

ive watch some tutorial on fusion and cant see the advantage of using the nodes in compositing. seem AE is much easier. so the question why they preffered node base?

the question is in the title of the thread. why node based?

[ragecg]

Here is a post by Prolost on his blog 4 months ago that sums it up really well, at least as far as layers vs. node-based apps go:

http://prolost.blogspot.com/2007/01/more-nodes-vs-layers.html

[chandro]

its more of a workflow issue. learning a node base just for employment reason really giving me headaches. im used to layers and its really confusing

[mackdadd]

i learned on After Effects and used it for major movies for years (and still do), but one day I had to learn fusion for a job, and currently I use a nodal compositor at work.

It is confusing if you're used to layers. It takes a little while to get your head around what's actually happening. What helped me alot was setting up my nodal flows in individual layers, so i could think of it like AE. My first few nodal projects were all set up running up and down. Like this:

[CG object]--------------[color correction]------------------
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[foreground footage]----------------[keyer]------------[over]
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[background]-------[color correction]----------------[over]------------------------[output]


Obviously, that's a super simple example, but hopefully it gives you the idea. Also, you'll have to think of effects that you would add to layers in AE as their own seperate nodes. Instead of levels being a part of a layer, it just something calculated right after the footage is calculated.

It also gets tons more confusing when dealing with mattes. In nodal compositing, you deal with mattes much more directly than you do in AE, which is sometimes better, sometimes much more cumbersome.

hope that helps a little! I was in the same boat a few years ago!

[ragecg]

....and currently I use a nodal compositor at work.

Same here. My shop just recently started the transition to Fusion from AE becaue of the ease of intergration with FBX and Maya data.

We will never drop AE outright as it's an awesome/powerfull tool, and we still make tons of cash with it.

My guys were DEATHLY afraid of leaving the safe confines of thier layer-based world, but after I had my guys watch the 3-dvd Intro to Fusion set from CMIfx, they were all drooling, so now we are getting the rest of his fusion set for my team:)

It really only took my guys about 2 days to grasp the concept, and now they love it.

Making the move to a node-based app is really not painfull at all, asspecialy when you understand the power of doing things that way.

[chandro]

thanks a lot for the response, i have to overcome my fear and study fusion as well.:)

[softdistortion]

chandro- I felt and still struggle with that uneasy feeling a bit myself. :)

It's a bit hard to go outside the safe boundry of what you know.

My intro to Nodes is happening via XSI comp section, and I have to agree it is more visually intuative than some layer setups.

Not sure if it will work for you, but once I started to understand the controls in/out on the nodes, it started to make more sense. Keep at it, you'le overcome the apprehensions with persistance.

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