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Asgar 03-06-2003, 04:03 PM I try to make a female character like squaresoft character!I know that it's a very hard WIP but i 'm just trying!I made her in maya with box modelling!I need absolutely help!Please...Thanks in advance!!
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Doubt
03-06-2003, 04:20 PM
i like the direction the face is going... doesn't look like the upper body area has received quite as much attention at this point. check out some shoulder reference, and look into a more natural shape for the breast as well.
I'm sure you have alot of pictures from square...I can't really compare yet....it's a little too early for me to saying anything...I would work more on the head though.....keep going:thumbsup:
Asgar
03-06-2003, 06:00 PM
A very little update...
Doubt:Thanks for the crits.The upper body is not finished and for the brest the image explain why i don't make detailed breast.
Remi:The head is not finished yet,but first i want to make hair and ears.But thanks!!!I do other tweak on the face later!!!
I guess what I see that needs some changing on the face the most is the size of the eyes....look at some of squares models...the chars eyes are quite big in relationship to the head....:)
The breast where they meet the armpit needs to be closer to the armpit or less prominent...make the transition from shoulder to breast a little more subtle....good job though...keep it up:thumbsup:
Asgar
03-06-2003, 07:16 PM
Update!!:) :)
MaDeuce
03-06-2003, 07:27 PM
The boobs are too close together, unless you are gonna model her with a corsett. They hang too veticle instead of flaring out toward the ribcageAlways use image planes if you have trouble, even if you mix and match totally different pictures. They are a little too big for square-style as well.
Nice start:cool:
I think the face is looking pretty good, i can definitely see some final fantasy resemblance (aki in this case). Breasts look better, but i think they could be improved just a little
aurora
03-06-2003, 07:38 PM
I have to agree with Remi and
MaDeuce and the chest, most especially Remi's comment on smoothing the tranition from the breast to the arm pits a bit. I think the face is looking OK but there seems to be something missing and just can't quite figure it out yet. Keep up the good work and please keep us updated!
Asgar
03-06-2003, 07:48 PM
Thanks for the replies!!!!
Xeno:AAAAArrrrhhhggg!!!Thanks for the "final fantasy ressamblance".I don't want to make a female like aki but a character like Yuna,lulu,... of FFX!!!!
MaDeuce,Remi,Aurora:Thanks for the help!I'm still working on breast and transition from them to arms!!!
Here's a pic of one....look at the shape of the eyes and the size and also the amount of seperation(bridge of nose)...I think working on those would dramatically improve the look....good updates though...the transition from breast to armpit is much better..maybe a little more tweaking....and the comment of them flaring I agree with...they are just a little too big and a little too straight...great job though bud keep it up....:thumbsup:
Sorry for the quality of the image
Asgar
03-07-2003, 12:17 PM
Very little update...eyes,breast and nose
aurora
03-07-2003, 01:49 PM
I mentioned earlier that there was somethng about the face that bothered me. I figured it out AFTER you fixed it. It was the eyes. It looks much better now. The whole thing is looking better. Keep it coming.
good update man.....looking much better all over....great job..keep going.:thumbsup:
Asgar
03-08-2003, 12:45 AM
Thanks to all for replies!I add ears and now I'm working on hairs. Please tell me what you think.
lerpiedood
03-08-2003, 02:24 AM
She's looking pretty good. Good start. The face is looking pretty nice but the armpit creases are way to rubbery, study some anatomy. The ear is good for a first one but needs more work, don't be afraid to seriously define stuff, also try searching google for some ear images. Can't wait to see her finished.
Asgar
03-08-2003, 11:48 PM
Thanks to all for the help!!Now i start to work with hair!!!
Lerpierdood:I decide to finish first the hair and ears after going to do a lot of tweak on the upper body!!!For the ears i found a lot of reference on fineart.sk!Thanks for the help!
Asgar
03-08-2003, 11:50 PM
Another view...
Asgar
03-09-2003, 10:43 AM
up....
stephen2002
03-09-2003, 11:37 AM
yikes! That hairstyle is going to be a big pain to animate. Other than that you are off to a great start!
Asgar
03-09-2003, 02:43 PM
stephen 2002:I think i'll animate them with syflex and i do the animation of only the medium and the lower part of them(not totally)!Another question:What do you mean with "Other than that you are off to a great start!"(i don't understand if it's negative or positive)!!Excuse me for the question but i don't understand and if it's negative tell me what you think i must change!!(Sorry for my bad English)
Looks quite good, though I think her chin looks too sharp.
:thumbsup:
ThirdEye
03-09-2003, 04:30 PM
good work indeed but...:
1) the chin's too sharp
2) the distance between the eyes should be equal to another eye
3) there's a strange fold at the outer corners of the eyelids
4) the jaw blends with the neck
5) the shoulders need a bit more definition
6) the whole face needs to be a bit wider imo
7) the lower part of triceps seems a bit too pronounced, unless she's a bodybuilder you need to keep it thinner.
can we see an unsmoothed wireframe please?
keep up the good work! :thumbsup:
Donnie_Darko
03-09-2003, 07:21 PM
ahh purrrfect. meow.
Asgar
03-10-2003, 10:59 PM
Hei sorry for the little update!I restart only today with my character!So i do some little correction and 1 experiment!
The experiment is the first image(new proportion) and the secon d is the old face (either with new correction)!Which prefer?Crits are welcome...
AshodT
03-10-2003, 11:31 PM
hey man,nice work.
im doing a character tpp,trying to recreate the ff style,but damn its hard!!
the top one is far better.
the second one seems squizzed.
Asgar
03-10-2003, 11:49 PM
I think i'll continue with the first one!....
surely gettin squaresoft shape......so are you gonna work there or what???no...really...if everything else get along as the modeling is u'll surely get the yellow thing..
Asgar
03-12-2003, 09:13 AM
Sorry for slow update...This is only in embryonic phase and i start adding some details only on the upper body!I'm checking the right proportion...Please Give me some advice!For prop ref i use FFx concept art and some real photo from fineart!
Temporal
03-12-2003, 01:09 PM
Very nice work so far. I have a few things to say about the model that I hope will help you complete it to the best of your ability.
1. To my eyes, the armpits seem a bit high. I don't know about others, but I think that it would look better if you lowered them some.
2. The ribs under the breasts should probably curve out more and be drawn away to the sides of the body, instead of just stopping 3/4 ways through. Also, I they probably shouldn't be so sharply defined.
3. If I'm not mistaken, due to the angle placement of the breasts, the nipples should be off to the side some, not dead in the middle :shrug:
4. I'm not sure, but it looks as if there might be something wrong with the face, particularly the skin right under the eye. On the left side of the render it appears as if there's a slightly darkened spot that would indicate an improper dip in the facial structure. Perhaps you could post another close up 3/4 view?
Asgar
03-12-2003, 08:11 PM
Thanks for the reply!!
Temporal:Yes now i notice all the thing you said!I'll work on them!!!Thanks for crits!I'll post soon a close up 3/4 view!
Asgar
03-13-2003, 01:03 PM
Here 's a close-up!!I try to understand more some prop!!Please give me more advice!!!Thanks for your time!!
Asgar
Asgar
03-13-2003, 01:04 PM
update..
Asgar
03-13-2003, 01:07 PM
some prop
.morfo.
03-14-2003, 11:21 AM
good work so far :buttrock:
:wavey:
Temporal
03-14-2003, 01:06 PM
Well, besides those dips under the eyes, it looks as if the chin might jut out some. Perhaps this is intended, or it might just be the camera view, but that's just what it looks like.
Judging from your ref pic, the arm pits are too high. This difference between the model and picture, while slight, is noticeable to the eye and can make a large difference in realism. Something else to consider are the arms, which appear to be to thin.
Another thing I noticed is the curve of the hips. Instead of gently molding into the legs, they seemingly just cut off abruptly. The only way I can describe it is that the hips are . . . to sharp.
Here's a draw over to illustrate what I mean. It's not perfect, but it might give you a good idea.
http://sa_gohan.tripod.com/prop2.jpg
You might have to copy and paste the link into your browser address bar.
Asgar
03-14-2003, 03:31 PM
Thanks for the constructive crits!!!I hope i fixed some mistake!Now i'm working on the arms!
Temporal:Thanks for your help!I use the ref pic only for general prop!I'm trying to achieve a ffx style not a photoreal women like Aki Ross!I fix the mistake on the eyes,some problem on breast and the chin(I hope)!
Asgar
03-14-2003, 03:34 PM
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qchan
03-14-2003, 03:37 PM
the face looks a bit flat.
Asgar
03-14-2003, 04:06 PM
I don't think so(or not totally) but if it is tell me what you think i must tweak!!!I would learn..:thumbsup: :) :)
Thanks!
Asgar
qchan
03-14-2003, 04:35 PM
The wohle face lacks of definition, above all the cheeks and the jaw.
Although I can suppose the high lips to eyes ratio as your aspired style, I find the mouth too small.
The nose is too sharp and low!
The upper and bottom lids are too thin!
The forehaed and the brows could also be more defined.
Asgar
03-24-2003, 08:22 PM
update...
Nimue
03-24-2003, 11:21 PM
I really like what your doing with this. I think the hair looked better down but thats just my opinion. the armpits need to com edown a little more also. Your doing a very nice job cant wait to see it finished:thumbsup:
S_3D_A
03-24-2003, 11:51 PM
I'mgoing to watch this really close. Keep us updated its starting to look better and better with every update.
Asgar
03-25-2003, 03:05 PM
adding some details(hands are in progress..)
Psycholink
03-25-2003, 04:51 PM
Very good!
:bounce: :bounce: :bounce:
Temporal
03-25-2003, 09:01 PM
Very nice job on the cloth so far, you have a very high amount of skill at that kind of thing it seems.
The face however still needs some correction, which can be noticed from the side and 3/4's view. In addition to what qchan said, or perhaps to better illustrate what he said, round out the features of the face more. The forehead, the cheeks, the lips, all of that is just too flat. I'll need to draw a picture to illustrate explain it any better.
Asgar
03-26-2003, 01:40 PM
Thanks a lot for the replies!!!!!!!:)
Temporal:Thanks for the crits!I try some tweak!...please give me some advice about about that pic....(Sorry for my bad English)!!
:) :)
Asgar
03-28-2003, 07:30 PM
working on the upper cloth...
Nimue
03-28-2003, 10:45 PM
I love this model,. could we see a wire
Asgar
03-29-2003, 02:16 PM
tHANKS FOR THE REPLIES AND THE COMMENTS!!Here's the wire!...
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