CgTalk Daily Sketch 1004 : NTL: "Fat Man & Little Boy" -HYPER REVIEW

[Ransom]

This is awesome good Job Roberto!

[RobertoOrtiz]

chrip, chrip...


Anybody has a deck of cards?

Ok ill be first then, ill post something later today.

-R

[CodeNothing]

mmmm..... I'll try and contribute an image. I'd contribute a crit but we seem to have a shortage at the moment. :)

[Ransom]

All right i guess i am first! hyper review lets start!

edit- pscs 1.5 hours

http://img98.imageshack.us/img98/1817/fatmanlilboysmallcopyfc2.jpg

[calisto-lynn]

this is an amazing sketch, ransom, i love the colours and a composition is loveley.

RobertoOrtiz, i congratulate you on this wonderfull idea for daily sketch...too bad i got work to do and cant make anything for today.. and i just started to warm up for these threads :(


keep up the great work everyone, there are some seriously beautifull sketches here!!!

[CodeNothing]

well, not sure If I have the time or the insperation to do something for this, but thought I'd contibute with a crit.

http://img220.imageshack.us/img220/3157/crit1nm4.jpg

[Ransom]

Awesome ill get right to it !

[Ransom]

ok So i bumped up the values some, but also i gave the foreground a redish tone and the city a blueish tone so that it will create depth. I added the red light since it seems like it would fit the scene and also give reason to the red tone in the plane. Improvment?

edit- forgot picture haha

http://img139.imageshack.us/img139/8139/fmlbct2.jpg

Calisto- thank you, i hope the tone change doesn't mess up the colors ^.~

Codenothing thanks for the Hyper-crit!

[embryotic]

Im a bit weary to post now - Ransom's pic was pretty sweet - and I suck when it comes to Values..

Ill probably crit on the next sketch seeing as Codenothing already did such a good job.

http://img228.imageshack.us/img228/8803/fatmanuj4.jpg

1.3 hr ps

[Ransom]

I will crit tomorrow embryotic. (it is 2 am here atm)

@ codenothing Fat man and little boy were the names of the bombs that destroyed Hiroshima and Nagasaki, the big bomb is fat man, the smaller is little boy.

Thanks once again for the help and the kind words!

[xodibox]

http://www.quickbrownfox.ca/DSG/fatty-skinny.jpg

don't have time tonight to deal with colours, here's my quick sketch (PS, 45min).

embryotic:
you accomplished alot for 1.3 hrs. My crit would be that the forms could be sharpened up a bit (hard shadows might help). I can see that you went into adding some grain and texture a bit early. Your time would probably be best spent refining the forms first, then detailing after.

Composition wise, you might get better results from a birds-eye view or worms-eye-view considering the subject matter.

[Kimded]

Tried something cartoony... may try a more traditional image if I have time. I'm reasonably happy but there is ALOT of room for improvement.

1 hour 15min in PS CS3

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/148/414505989_ee5bcf28d0_o.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/78095978@N00/414505989/)

[Nawen]

I'm not qualified enough to give crits to other, but at least I'm gonna try...this is such a great thread idea, I jumped in the opportunity!

Well congrats everyone that's quiet great, as everyone already got feedback, except from Kimded and Xodibox, I'll give it a try on both of you.

Xodibox your character stands are really original, so comic, and really dynamic! It would be great to see them in color too, but I really love your work in black and white, it's already so "living", I do hope I'll get some crits from you to improve my work ^^

as for Kimded, I really don't know what was made by purpose and what wasn't so that's kind of hard to give you feedback...maybe you should work on proportions ? you still can exagerate them, to give it a comic-look, but maybe you should try to get a bit closer to a more realistic anatomy. Maybe you could contrast a bit more the skin colors too, It would give more deapth...

well that's just suggestions, don't pay attention to them if you don't think they're constructive enough.

so, here is mine:

that's what came into my mind when I saw the title. It took me about 3 hours (I'm such a slow worker compared to you all...), a bit less maybe. I hope you'll give me lots of crits to help me... I'm not really happy with it, not totally happy whith his expression, not happy with the hands, and above all...I'm not happy with the skin...how do you do to make great skins ?

http://www.hacarnan.com/marina/fatman%20copy(1).jpg

[Ivy00]

oh boy I am weak in anatomy, but will give it a shot.

Nawen - Values: I have problems with that myself, but would love to see some darker areas on him so he does not look flat. IE under his chin,shorts, shadow on the gruond area so he does not look so much like he is floating. Round out the limbs a bit.

Anatomy : please forgive me on this area I am not a good one for anatomy crits. His screen left forearm looks a bit short and bent at a not so natural angle. It could just be the position of his hand that gives it that funny bendy look. Screen right arm,looks a bit like it is growing out of his belly, maybe we need to see a touch of the top of the arm. His screen right , guess you could call it breast is a bit larger than the screen left one.

I personally would love to see a little more detail in his hair and I am not even gonna ask about the little boy ha ha.

edit to add the following: I didn't have this at the time of my post , but knew it was out there. This is a post of some links that Frostblade posted in Maladies wip thread

Skin By cypherx
http://www.deviantart.com/deviation...me+-in%3Ascraps (http://www.deviantart.com/deviation/34222893/?qo=11&q=by%3Acypherx&qh=sort%3Atime+-in%3Ascraps)

Imaginefx workshops
http://www.imaginefx.com/-228775433.../Workshops.html (http://www.imaginefx.com/-2287754330326480692/Workshops.html)

http://www.itchstudios.com/psg/art_tut.htm

Linda Tso stuff
http://www.stickydoodle.com/extras.htm

Overall it is a great sketch and a much better person than I could ever do in that amount of time. Cute idea too , gave me a laugh when I saw it.



ok I got over my fear of the topic and did a sketch

2 hours PS 7 Wacom ( I had interuptions so am not completely sure on the time)

http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2006-11/1230395/fmlb.jpg

[Ransom]

Nice work every one.

Nawen the left hand of your figure is screaming with life, it is rendered really well. His right arm, on the other hand, looks a bit stiff maybe if you put a bend in it it would look a lilte more natural. (Pun totally intended)


http://img259.imageshack.us/img259/5209/hypercritsjs5.jpg

I hope i am not to harsh just trying to be helpful!

[Nawen]

Wow, thank you so much Ransom and Ivy00!

I'm a bit stuned by your kind words,that's really encouraging.. :) and your advices are a gold mine! I'll do some touch up on him later, taking consideration of what you both told me.

I really appreciate Ivy that you took the time to fully detail my work, I'll try my best to improve it now. (and glad it gave you a laugh ^^ at least I reached my point)

I really like your image, specially the colors, and that great reptile-like skin!

And Ransom, thank you for the brief tut, I took advantage of it. (and what a great sketch you did !)

[calisto-lynn]

omg, i never thought ivy and i would have the simmilar idea...
hour and a half, photoshop cshttp://img186.imageshack.us/img186/8895/zabaql2.jpg

[Ransom]

OH nawen LOL i didnt get the little boy part, that hysterical !

[Ivy00]

You are welcome Nawen :)

ha ha calisto well we are both named Linda so we probably think alike

[embryotic]

Thanks Ransom! - youre right about the defining shapes - anyone know how to define shapes, is that just working your shadows/highlights to greater effect?

Nawen - all this is is just my own technique on what I might do with you image, take what you may... :)

1 (http://img230.imageshack.us/img230/221/65910091wv5.jpg) 2 (http://img235.imageshack.us/img235/4466/30416279xu6.jpg) 3 (http://img230.imageshack.us/img230/3120/74990889qr6.jpg) 4 (http://img230.imageshack.us/img230/6216/11151199hw6.jpg) 5 (http://img65.imageshack.us/img65/6305/46936423ty2.jpg)

http://img65.imageshack.us/img65/6305/46936423ty2.jpg

[sodiaz]

Really cool idea with the Hyper review threads Roberto :thumbsup:

I hope over paints are acceptable? anyways here goes

Cute picture calisto, the frog looks really lazy :P

Didn't really have to change it all that much. I think the biggest thing was the background , it looked too saturated. So i started with De-saturating it a bit, and broke it up with some bigger brush strokes. Added some soft shadows here and there, dimmed down the white highlights. Probably should have added some more hard edges and shadows, it's a bit soft in some areas. Lastly I cropped the top off, because i didn't think it added anything to the picture, and it made the composition better.

Wee I think this was my first over paint, it was quite fun to do =)

http://www.sodiaz.dk/data/images/OverPaints/1004_calisto_overpaint.jpg

[calisto-lynn]

sodiaz: omg thank you so much!!! it looks waaaaaaaaaaay better!!!im so happy now!!!

[Nawen]

lol calisto your frog is so cool! i love the expression!

OH nawen LOL i didnt get the little boy part, that hysterical !

lol well, yeah, that's the first thing that came up from my perverted mind i guess :D

embryotic that's so cool ! thank you so much, I try and used your technique my way.

Thanks to everyone, you all helped me a lot already.
I got back to him, trying to keep in mind, all the things you told me, so here is the result:

http://www.hacarnan.com/marina/fatman%20copy%20retouches.jpg

He looks less flat I think, so that is already a sort of improvment, but the skin still looks so plastic...I think I'm still a bit too shy with shadows..? I can't get rid of that waxy effect..drives me crazy. (Ivy I tried to work on the hair, but I didn't know how to do, so I tried to improvise something)

gosh i have to go to bed, it's so late up here

[ray-noa]

Nice idea with reviews, it's always useful to read about mistakes etc.
My sketch, 60min, photoshopCS.
On left hand of fatman there is joke tattoo with sun and typical name "Vova".
http://www.redrum.org.ru/sceneart/albums/userpics/fat3.jpg

[elzilcho]

cool idea ray-noa. quite different to your usual style.

crit:
the tattoo is on his right hand :P

photoshop
25 mins

crits obv. welcome

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y10/Treborguy/fatman.jpg

[vladino]

Hi,

I'm just begginer and posting my second sketch so it's hard for me to crit your great works. But to be fair I'll give it a try ;)

@ray-noa: I would desaturate and lighten up the backround of the image to give a depth to it :)

@elzilcho: In your image I'll add a shadow also under the figures to ground the. Disturbs me a little bit when they are "floating" :)


And here's mine:

http://www.roth.sk/gallery/2d/wip/ds_1004_FatManAndLittleBoy_70m.jpg

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