The Oracle, Marta Dahlig (2D)

[coochaki]

Really impressive,
nice skin shading , lighting,
nice feeling!
great method to creating Linen!so...:thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup:

[andreasrocha]

Marta does it again! Well done!

[Lman]

fantastic :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

[PMD]

An absolutely remarkable painting. Thanks for sharing Martha, and I look forward to the next issue of IFX.

[BGHart]

Stunning work! The fabrics and the hands look excellent. :thumbsup:

[FioreSSj]

Amazing details :eek: as ever :thumbsup:

[Blessing]

I will take the risk and say the following: I guess that's my favorite piece of yours. The mood, the composition, the color scheme... everything is fantastic. And if you are going to get on this style, you're on a beatiful way. :)

Congrats, Marta! :bounce:


All my respect


Bless

[michael101171]

I love her. Watching your composition is like a mystery tour, sort of. Usually I no fan of fantasy stuff, but I like this one.

[Bell7]

Very subtle with gorgeous lighting, detail... well everything!

Inspirational

[plasteredcat]

Sexy, sexy... I only miss a bit more defined edges in certain parts, just slightly more defined, but that's all. Good stuff...:thumbsup:

[Thaldir]

To date, this is my absolute favored of yours, very strong and individual. Definitely a direction worth exploring! :thumbsup:

[nachogrande]

Awesome job Marta! Espeacially the texture of the fabric is excellent.

[scala]

Less glamour , less elements around , but still wonderfullllllllll and always 5*

[Icey]

5 stars and nothing more to say.... :)

Icey

[Rho-Yia]

Amazing peace of art!:applause:

I love it! Nice face. Well done!:thumbsup:

[MN-VFX]

Greate Job! +5 stars

No Pani Marto spisała się Pani rewelacyjnie
5 gwiazdek

[kiboSVK]

your best piece 5* great light, hands and idea with secret woman:applause:

[Bemol]

Amazing! I love the dry skin around the eyes, so subtle.

[Rebeccak]

Okay. I hate to be a sourpuss, and I definitely do not want to start a flame war. But I don't think that this piece has been done without photo reference.

I don't think that using photo reference is wrong. I think that using photoreference without disclosing it is not good practice, and it means that I can't plug this work, despite the result.

With respect to the whole discussion / debate surrounding the use of photoreference and whether or not it matters, please see Lunatique's post here:

http://forums.cgsociety.org/showpost.php?p=4177172&postcount=77

It represents the general direction / stance that the mods are taking about the proper / improper use and disclosure of use of photoreference.

Marta, this is not to pick on you - and this is not meant to bash you, nor is it to outright say that you are being dishonest. But I see many inconsistencies in your work as a whole, where some areas are painted naively and others nearly photoreal - and to me this just doesn't add up in terms of 'painting from scratch'.

Again, I hope not to offend you - I am merely pointing out CGTalk's general policy regarding the proper disclosure of reference used in a painting.

EDIT: After pms with Marta I don't find the way in which she used reference here to be questionable.

-Rebeccak

[T-Scholes]

If suspicions are indeed true, the only wrongdoing is in not being honest. No one enjoys being decieved, and I believe said deceptions may also harm public perception of art as a whole.

If suspicions are false, be flattered. Show us, enlighten us of your methods and be proud.

[stolenanjel]

Marta does it again! Well done!

The texture on the hands and clothare amazing! I admire your skils and patience!

[discovolante]

I second Rebecca's sentiment.

Honesty is the key, if omission was the case not only are you kidding yourself but you are sparing the audience of crucial information of your process.

[CGadrian]

MAGNIFIC !

5 stars !
wow!:)

[Ducklator]

wOoOw Amazing image.... nice lights and colors.... 5***** :love:

[BlacKeri]

Guys, thank you very much for the warmest feedback =) Your kind words really do mean a lot.

Rebecca, T-Scholes, discovolante: Thanks for your comments. Unfortunately, you can only have my word as I cannot share any WIP shots whatsoever (due to the contract) and I do understand it might not be enough in this case, that the work is done from scratch. I can only offer you to take a look on ImagineFX tutorial.
I have sent a detailed PM to Rebecca in the issue not to trash the thread, but if you two would like, I can gladly forward that note to you as well.

[Intervain]

Definitely my favourite peace of yours! Glad to know you're intending to lean in this sort of direction from now on~!:thumbsup::bounce: 5 stars!

[niva]

5 stars from me.

I remember seeing your icon change to this image a few days ago and wondering when I missed your upload... I guess it was coming soon after.

You're improving with every new piece, keep it up!

[Shanytc]

Hey Marta,

That's a cool painting! Thumb up!
Though the only thing that bothers me is that the lightning is a bit odd / unrealistic.
Keep up the good work :thumbsup:

[Sviatko]

It is very good work! I am simply enamoured ...

[inwheel]

Oh my god!
What can i say.
Perfect concept, perfecr pose and perfect light which so mysterious.
5 stars!

[claudiasutton]

This is amazing. I really love the character, the colors, technique and mood that this work emits.

Well done Marta.

[Raido]

One of the most amazing digital pieces I've ever seen. I'm not worty... =)

[MVDB]

Great piece!

Thanx for sharing this..

:eek:

[slickgreekgeo]

This is incredible, what I like the most about your works is the fact that you imply detail without overworking the painting. I wish I could do that. The colors are excellent, very moody. Great composition, overall another masterpiece. 5 stars.

[alfy]

Once again, awesome! You have definitely "leveled up" recently :P This one and your last one have a very profesional finish. Keep em coming! xD

[yumichen]

great!!!:bounce: loving!good skin!How can i do it!

[CyborgJA]

Well, with or without photorefs, you did an incredible work.
I can feel each brushstroke and a great textures using and of course only a great artist can reach this level.

The single thing I can tell you is that next time I really would like to see your "virtual blood" on a more challenging pic cause, excuse me if I'm ill-mannered, we all know that you LOOOVE to describe tiny details in beautiful women...mmm I want to see you in something different.

Of course, this is only a iper-personal thought.

Can't wait for the new pic ! :buttrock:

[BlacKeri]

Thanks a lot for the comments guys =) I am drowning with work currently so again I have to thank everyone together, for their time to drop me a comment.
Your feedback is definitely most appreciated!

Serena: All of the references were mentioned in the first post, nothing more for the body used. :) Thanks for your kind words!

[Rebeccak]

Hi Marta,

I think your PMs have been very well stated and I think the manner in which you have used references here seems in keeping with what many / most agree is an acceptable way of using reference, which is to look at many sources and composite in a single image. I also understand that CGTalk has not always been very clear about its policies regarding the use of reference and that this has caused confusion, not only to you but to many. I am hoping that gets resolved soon and am trying to work to make that happen...that being said, thank you for your private responses, and I very much respect the way in which you've responded to my questions. I also agree with many of the sentiments you posted here (http://forums.cgsociety.org/showpost.php?p=4187622&postcount=98):

http://forums.cgsociety.org/showpost.php?p=4187622&postcount=98

and hope that we make the standards more clear soon.

In the meantime, where you have used a composite of reference images, photographs / sketches, etc. - please say so in your post, instead of 'painted from scratch'. Saying so implies that no reference was looked at, and I think that is what was most difficult to believe. Long story short, just mention (where applicable) that you used a composite of reference but did not rely on a single ref. It would also help if you described your working methods for more photorealistic pieces.

Cheers,

-Rebeccak

[MichaelZHsee]

fantabulous~good stuff :thumbsup:

[waheednasir]

thats a moody work marta...:).

[deadman4ever]

Just...beautiful! :applause:

[DarkTownArt]

Whoooo hey Marta!
I already saw that work some days ago but back there it wasn't submitted to the forums yet, so I couldn't comment it, and so am late.
However, I saw this on a flatscreen first and color composition/ contrast looked so great!
However, I am sitting at my old (7 years) monitor now and am desiring the flat screen back since it made your work look so much more fantastic.
However, enough said, and let me simply add that I really had to stare at those hands for a while. You know, since I suck with painting hands I have no clue how you coulda be able to paint such photorealistic ones just by looking at them! Even the pose would request me to shoot a photo, and even then they wouldn't be correct!
Give me that tutorial now, damn :P

[rawgon]

the simplicity of the portrait along with your masterfull brush drives me crazy! you got loads of potencial, i wish i could paint that easy;) it´s beautifull! congrats

do another one just that beautifull...:applause:

[slickgreekgeo]

Whoooo hey Marta!
I already saw that work some days ago but back there it wasn't submitted to the forums yet, so I couldn't comment it, and so am late.
However, I saw this on a flatscreen first and color composition/ contrast looked so great!
However, I am sitting at my old (7 years) monitor now and am desiring the flat screen back since it made your work look so much more fantastic.
However, enough said, and let me simply add that I really had to stare at those hands for a while. You know, since I suck with painting hands I have no clue how you coulda be able to paint such photorealistic ones just by looking at them! Even the pose would request me to shoot a photo, and even then they wouldn't be correct!
Give me that tutorial now, damn :P

Anne, I don't know how you go about using references, but I highly recommend you study how hands work. Your work is amazing, but the hands always look a bit rushed (although you improve with each image, which is good). Other than that, the anatomy of your figures is virtually flawless. Master those hands and you'll be unstoppable! :scream:

Marta, generally speaking of references, do you find referencing from real life more helpful than those of photographs? Do you find one has an advantage over another? Sorry for posting twice, I couldn't help myself :) .

[scala]

Hey Marta

Congratulations I just discover that we belongs of the new artist team of Corel Painter X.

[BlacKeri]

Marta, generally speaking of references, do you find referencing from real life more helpful than those of photographs? Do you find one has an advantage over another? Sorry for posting twice, I couldn't help myself :) .

I think that choosing a type of reference depends greatly on your objective.
If you have more time and care for actual learnng and understanding the structure of a referenced object, I believe that it is much more efficient to learn from real life: you can change your perspective and angles anytime and experiment with different lighting etc.

But IF one wants fast effects and be simply able to paint something once in a particular pose, photo reference is easier to work with. You have direct comparison, you can use grids... To me, photo references also proved to be helpful when experimenting and practicing between paintings - in my beginner days I had a lot of problems with unconventional skintones (especially painting "natural looking" skin with blues, greens etc) and so, in times of trouble I colour picked some photos. After the right amount of practice I now have no problems with choosing the shades by myself :)

So yeah, I think it is best to use both of these methods, but in different situations, depending on your needs.. While using live references offers some long-term effects (the actual knowledge and feel), photo refs are very useful for casual, immediate help. :D

[lasmarcos]

Superb:eek: , one question, what does the hand signs mean? To me they mean OK, FOR, X.

[AfroditeOhki]

This is the best from you in my opinion. It even surpasses Pandora, which caught my breath. Stunning work! And I simply adore her lips.

[Iridyse]

Wonderful image Marta! I love the treatment of the fabric, and her hands and mouth are beautifully done!
Sorry for the late post, I've been away :(

[Fantom]

Congrats Marta. Truly you deserved this :) Damn..i envy you :P

[Iridyse]

Woohoo! Congratulations on the award!!

[SamsonsReaper]

congrats Marta!

I would work more on the highlights though :)

And the bent right hand looks abit swollen at the wrist? maybe its just me.

[CyborgJA]

Ehi congratulazioni !!! http://forum.html.it/forum/images/smilies/metallica.gif
Fully deserved award !! http://forum.html.it/forum/images/smilies/metallica.gif

[PavelPetrenko]

Wow! Amazing work! very detailed! :thumbsup:

[mrpank]

Awesome awesome http://www.conceptart.org/forums/images/ca_smilies/normal/smiley_bashful.gif
Can't wait to see the new work
Cheershttp://www.conceptart.org/forums/images/ca_smilies/normal/anj_talk.gif

[scala]

Congratulations for the Award Marta.
Did you receive my emails (2)...

[ashrass99]

wonderful painting.

[DarkTownArt]

Well, well - what can I say? It was about time for you to win this :D

[nolxev]

Wonderful as usual Marta :thumbsup:

[Mcuzino]

The fabric and the texture on the eyes make the piece.
SKills Skills Skills

[riabovitchev]

Simply Amazing!

[icharin]

Awesome work, and congradulations on your 'Award' Status. It's LONG overdue in my opinion. :D

[ENPTY]

fantastic :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

[DVDz]

This is incredible work...it really is.... however, how did u get the linen to loo so real? ive tried to make similar brushes to the ones you breifly explained, however i have little luck with getting a good look...did you use Painter or photoshop for the linen and the skin... one last thing, do you think you could email me an attachment with the brushes in them? would be great ^^ good job once again by the way

[BlacKeri]

*cry of joy*When i got the award notification I got literally speechless... MY GOODNESS!

To everyone kind enough to stop by - Thank you so so much! I appreciate all of your kind comments and support... It really means the world to me. <3]

To David: sure thing, I'll mail you the brushes in a second. :)

[AlexYaremchuk]

very, very good! interesing texture around eyes

[MatteoM]

Wow... it's very fantastik work, very good details... great!


Mat

[kisalon]

Breathtaking image.. every bit of it!

[Maidith]

I knew this would be a CGtalk award :D
And you fully deserve it for such a wonderful work, Marta.

[lusie]

it`s incredible... snk`s for your painting... :)))))

[tddtk]

wow,wow,wow
Great lighting and atmosphere .!:twisted:

[Yink]

The front cover of ImagineFX is just as amazing too. I love your work.

[digitalinkmind]

Wow! Stunning ... Amazing ... Marvelous ... Incredible ... Beautiful artwork.
Not enough words to describe the effect of your skills on my mind...I´m speechless:thumbsup:


Cheers.:)

[hansyw]

Eye catching! and still works even on the details.

Great Piece of Art

[Blessing]

Hey, congrats for the award!! I loved that painting since the first time I saw it! :bounce:

[3dRaven]

Wow Superb. I'm totally lost for words. A first class job Marta :thumbsup:

[PatchouliJudy]

Marta Darling, this one's personal, lol. No but seriously, tis good to be very wide awake, or would that be alive, lol. :-) The painting is absolutely beautiful. Judy

[maxxxw]

Thumbs up for the hands!!!:thumbsup:

5 Stars

[snowkiwi]

This is a really good piece Marta. This showed me how much talent you have. Her hand expressions are subtly powerful. The whole expression is in sync with a better mood of the piece. Remarkable work. You have real talent. The best painter or potential I've seen so far.

[AlonChou]

incredible! amazing work!

[FlaminGlow]

i would make it short and say it is a full image, i like all about it...

5 deserved

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