View Full Version : Blu-Ray aims to take over from DVD
Array 02-17-2003, 07:06 PM http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=7786
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wedge
02-17-2003, 07:33 PM
oh sweet jesus....
they need to wait a few years, seriously. i've jumped on the dvd bandwagon pretty hardcore, so I really hope i don't have to buy all this crap... i mean all these great movies... again.
RormanKnockwell
02-18-2003, 04:03 PM
The main issue concerning this technlogy will be, I predict, how long it will be held in limbo while they work out the DRM issues. You can be sure that movie/TV studios will not want a repeat of the easily-cracked CSS system that was supposed to prevent DVD's from being copied.
The "Content Providers" will probably want to hang up this technology by proclaiming that they will refuse to produce Blu-Ray content until they can be assured that there is no way that content will be copied by you or I. That should slow down the march of progress for 5 or 6 years.
If they really know what's good for them, they will refuse to put anything out on Blu-Ray technology even after this stalling tactic is all played out. It makes no sense form a marketing perspective. Consider that most people currently buy DVD's simply in order to watch the movie, not for the bonus materials. Those who do want the bonus materials can spend more for the two disc set, or even the four disc set with matching bookends :-). If studios are smart (and they are), they release DVD's in waves: basic movie first, then deluxe edition, then collector's edition, and so on. The hardcore fans will have to buy them all. Why would they trade this bounty just so that they can sell a single, high capacity disc which will invariably cost less than all the aforementioned special editions combined?
Personally, I hope that Blu-Ray does not take over from DVD. I want the technology, absolutely, but as a backup medium not an entertainment medium. 27GB of random-access backup would be fantastic. Hopefully, the Content Providers will see reason, stick with red laser DVD, and be unable to convince anyone to include DRM restrictions into Blu-Ray technology. That way we can all enjoy this stuff as soon as possible.
playmesumch00ns
02-18-2003, 07:16 PM
hear! hear! :)
JA-forreal
02-18-2003, 07:18 PM
Forget about Hollywood.
I want more storage for my Blender animation and 3d scene files now. I think that this one will first be marketed to the end user.
Hollywood has their DVD stuff. They should be happy with that for now.
This BlueDisk should be marketed the in the same way that PC cdr and cdrw disk were marketed to PC users. The first CD recorder sold in the US for $149,000. This would be a good starting price point. We end users are so stinking rich anyway, hehehehe!
Hollywood, move over and make room for the power end users. I could put every episode of one season of Andromeda on one BlueDisk ooooooooooh yeah. Bring it on Japan Techs.
JA-forreal-What, did I make you drool?
Strider_X
02-18-2003, 08:16 PM
I'm still waiting for FMD-rom's-_!!Link!!_- (http://www.sysopt.com/articles/c3d-spot/)
Its same technology as dvd's just instead of 2 layers, you have 20 to 100 with the possibility of holding over a terabyte of data.
UPDATE:
Guess I can stop waiting they're bankrupt according to NASDAQ (http://quotes.nasdaq.com/quote.dll?page=multi&mode=stock&symbol=CDDDQ&symbol=&symbol=&symbol=&symbol=&symbol=&symbol=&symbol=&symbol=&symbol=&multi.x=25&multi.y=7) :hmm:
TerrestrialSea
02-19-2003, 02:16 AM
Originally posted by RormanKnockwell
Personally, I hope that Blu-Ray does not take over from DVD.
You make a good point in your post, but, the DVD medium is quickly becoming out-dated. Manufactures are quickly learning that a need for more storage is in high-demand right now. You'll see in coming years that the DVD medium will be gone and replaced by internal HD's or an extremely high-density medium. In fact it's already happening! So what I people have already bought their movie collection on DVD, introducing a higher-density medium will just make large corporations a little more money off the end-user. I mean look how much money they made when they introduced DVD's in the first place. Plus, Basic, Collectors Edition, and Special Editions won't go away anytime soon, a high-density medium will just give content-providers allot more options to mess around with.
Change is inevitable, the new medium will come and then be replaced by something newer...it's not personal, it business.
Akuma
02-19-2003, 03:26 AM
oh i want it!! If blu-ray takes over imagine how awesome that would be! you could store sooo much info on 1 Cd and at that point, dvds would be as cheap as cds are now!!!!!
Akuma
02-19-2003, 04:56 AM
Originally posted by Strider_X
I'm still waiting for FMD-rom's-_!!Link!!_- (http://www.sysopt.com/articles/c3d-spot/)
Its same technology as dvd's just instead of 2 layers, you have 20 to 100 with the possibility of holding over a terabyte of data.
Whats crazy is, these use red laser technology, imagine if they utilized blue laser technology? OMFG... *gets calculator* OMFG 540 with 20 layers gigabytes on one of those bad boys..... and .......2.7 terabytes if they did 100 layers. :eek:
TerrestrialSea
02-19-2003, 06:59 AM
I think that 100 layer disc may have a little trooble making it to the market...
geoffr
02-19-2003, 10:28 AM
I can't wait for the day they reduce the size and stick it in a digital camera.
Just think of all those lovely high res images on one disc instead of getting a single decent sized image on a tiny flash card.
Who needs digital tape for a DV camera?
windarr
02-19-2003, 05:43 PM
I disagree with you TerrestrialSea. True, DVD technology is already outdated, and cheaper alternatives already exist. But you are talking about a market that up until just about two years ago was dominated by VHS. A standard that had been around for decades. Now that was a super outdated format. Remember that Beta lost out to VHS even though Beta was supposedly a better format (I've never watched Beta myself). Though the storage increase available with a blue-laser is very appealing, we are not talking about a revolutionary product. The video market makes more sense to stick to a standard for a long time. You are talking about every day people that get confused when you tell them that PS2 disks won't play in a DVD player. I believe that eventually the DVD format will be replaced by another better one, but right now it is too soon. General consumers would rebel at a change this early. If they end up doing anything with the blu-ray technology, they might add it into a regular red-laser DVD player. That way enabling the use of both technologies. That way consumers will be able to still use their old DVD's. But I doubt that even this will happen any time soon.
G Nilsson
02-20-2003, 02:20 AM
i wonder if blu-ray will be enough when HD comes (and all movies will be rereleased again :) how many minutes of that would fit on one of these discs?
/G
dark_lotus
02-20-2003, 02:30 AM
I had read that a new DVD format was scheduled for release in 2008.
That said, those players would provide backwards compatibility, and a much better option.
DivX and MPEG4 are both examples of dvd being outdated (remember the DVD format is 8 years old)
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