Gods/Demons - character - Argail

[ROPA]

I have created arm and hand separatly and prepared mesh for vains ...
http://www.orkafilm.com.pl/argail/corp2.jpg

[l_farley13_l]

Interesting design, really hard to tell what the first pic is but the second looks promising! The fore arm looks a bit stretched though. How's the face comming ?

Hope to see more,

Farley13

[ROPA]

This is the body but not in the right pose....
there are just head , wings and fire left....

http://www.orkafilm.com.pl/argail/next.jpg

[diazgl]

damn!! I LOVE your design!! He has that wrecked feeling on him! You REALLY got the effect you were looking for!
Thumbs up!

[Fetus23]

hope to see some ooozing guts :buttrock:
really good so far...need more!!

[ROPA]

Can somebody tell me if i can't show textures haw I supoze to do fire ? I mean I know but fire is transparent and without textures it will hide to many of my object ...
I will skulpt the fire on mesh but that's not the best way for me..

Bdw thanks folks for critique....

[ROPA]

I bind body to the bones and I'v set the pose.
Then i bulided kind of chains or somethink to hold him imprison

Next step is push the skink in pleaces where are stocked chains
Then wings and face and finaly the mesh fire :)


http://www.orkafilm.com.pl/argail/next2.jpg

Ofcourse I know that there are lot's of small mestakes like leg fingers and some mistproportions that I'll fix leater.... :)

[ROPA]

Now we can see lot's of small errors ... :)

but for 2 days of work ...


http://www.orkafilm.com.pl/argail/next3.jpg

[Joel Hooks]

yeeeouch!

heh, that is looking very interesting (and painful). It'll be cool to see where it goes!

[Dark_Des]

Too good man, very impressive work :eek:

[ROPA]

Thanx very much !

It's my firts challenge and I'm not quite understand who is winnig , haw voting is made . Where can I see who is in lead now ? And is simethinkg else needed to win but the modelig ?


Here is close up of chest...

http://www.orkafilm.com.pl/argail/next4.jpg

[Threedeemer]

Wow! Impressive indeed, such a great concept.

[Joel Hooks]

Originally posted by Argail


It's my firts challenge and I'm not quite understand who is winnig , haw voting is made . Where can I see who is in lead now ? And is simethinkg else needed to win but the modelig ?



Voting comes at the end of the month. The way to tell who is winning (i guess) at the moment is how many replies/views their thread has, along with the rating associated with it. The 5 stars are generally "in the lead", but it is a bit subjective as a single one star can drop your average greatly.

This particular challenge is strictly for modeling. While you can texture and animate, the final entry must be a flat shaded model (though GI and proper lighting are allowed)

You my frind are on the fasttrack to first place. This model is wonderful!

[ROPA]

The challenge just begin and i'v seen lot of great work..

Thanks for help...

Here are templates of the wings with little bit of lightning and ray diffuse .

There are lots of mestakes but there are 2 weeks lef.. :)

Thx again and critique....

http://www.orkafilm.com.pl/argail/god_01.jpg

http://www.orkafilm.com.pl/argail/god_02.jpg

http://www.orkafilm.com.pl/argail/god_03.jpg

http://www.orkafilm.com.pl/argail/god_04.jpg

[Joel Hooks]

So is he trying to fly out of his prison?

So cool. We will need to see MANY updates! :)

[diazgl]

i love you....i just....i don't know...i just love you man....

[l_farley13_l]

wow the modeling is really cookin great !! The knees now look like they could use some development, and the toes seem a bit long/rounded, look at some angel work like :http://www.xplorer.co.za/angel.jpg

(BTW really reminds me of yours)

The feet are arched becaue they aren't in use (you can probably feminize them even to emphasize it)

see you,

Farley13

[ROPA]

Can someone tell me if I can show textured model or not ?
Rules are that we can't challeng with texturet object but only pure mesh .
I have seen that lot's of challengers showing texuret work ?
So can I or can not ?

Other think . Is tere any prices for this challeng ? :)

[Dark_Des]

I think you should keep your model untextured, because textures won't decide who will win the contest. (ergh, excuse my bad english).

Could you tell me how do you manage to model veins on your character's arms?

Anyway, I give you 5 stars, you're one of the best entries. ;)

Keep modeling man

[toma]

WOW i DO love it Argail !

First comment : his wings are really cool, but i think he'll encounter problems for flying with all the holes he has ! :)

I love the way your hands behave and "talk" to the eyes. They're really expressive and i appreciate that a lot.

I like the "twisted" mood, with holes everywhere, the tore body etc. It makes the scene really dramatic.

And i see that you model with Maya is that it ? What do you start with when you start modeling something new ? With box ? Do you use special tools ? I ask that because i still want to model well with Maya, but i have never been able to do something correctly. So i use Max for now.

Anyway excellent work ! Show us more !!!

toma.

[ROPA]

l_farley13_l - Thanks realy for picture . I helps about behaiving of the muscles . Where can I find this Bigger ? I wonder if not to change my wings closer to those on picture because it hawe to be closser look like fire wing... thx

Dark_Des - for me it's not the problem about textures but U have to admit that showing textured model with good lightning and final composition will influence on the final voting ?
Vains ! In Maya it's easy with Split polygon tool . U just cuting polly on ready surface end extrude this little... Veins are detailed so U have to do it after finishing whole model (mussles).
And if U fix chest I'll vote for U (GREAT FACE of Your JIM :) )
Thx ...
:D

toma - For wings it's just the construction because I'll do them of fire . Flames like feather . Also hi will burn from inside thru the holes I'v made ... I wont hide that I was waching renesans painters for the expresion .. About modeling in MAYA.
I was starting working with 3d on MAX but I did'n like the modelig tools . I was modeling in LW (THE BEST !!! ) Now I'm working on MAYA and I'm using Conect Polly shape to simulate LW modeller ..
I'm always starting doing model creating the simplest polygon of biggest part of body. Then I continiue going in to smallest parts and details .. Good tink about modeling in Maya is that U can setup MAYA like other 3dsoftware are and add other yours think . It's good to know basics of mel ... helps ...
Thx for reply..


And thank U all for critique . U are helping me guys ...
AGAIN Thx

[Sangotten]

It look really....original!

I lmust sau that the style is awesome and those holes in the mesh are really cool!

Keep it coming!

[Dark_Des]

Yes, I think you're absolutly right, untextured is UNTEXTURED!!! :wip: :wip: :wip:

[gL_spear]

brillant concept...just brillant can see a lot of thought went into the concept :D

[111]

impressive

[Joel Hooks]

I for one wouldn't mind even tiny updates on this one.

I love it!

Post more pics. Create joy!

[Pancreas]

Woa, i can feel his agony, good work!:eek:

[azazel]

Impressive is the right word...

Dobra robota... podoba mi siê

[Darkelfv]

love this very much, style is just awesome, toes need work, can't wait till the fire comes I would really like to see that. I think you can have diffenernt color of stuff just not textured, i read something about haveing base color, and seen other entries with base color for diffent things like cloths but not textured, or i could be wrong i asked same question but nobody answered me.
good luck

[rebeldreams]

Hi Argail

Maya has some wonderfully impressive shaders, but if you're using RayDiffuse, you'll have to see if the transparency overlay for any flame effects network will work with a RayDiffuse node attached. I think it will, though. I just switched to Raytools (the Maya/MentalRay translator plugin) which I'd recommend if you have SoftImage...

The other alternative is to do a Hardware render mode of the flame effect and composite it - you can even do an alpha channel export and composite in Photoshop! Either way the results (especially on a model as great as yours) will look phenomenal.

Keep up the great work!!!

RD

PS - go here for some shader networks:

Highend3d (http://www.highend3d.com)
AliasWavefront (http://www.aliaswavefront.com)
Denfo Shader Collection (http://denfo.grc.ru) (a LOT of good shaders here!)

Hope these help!

Callum

[ROPA]

I have little break at the time but after eggs christmas :) I'll update my work . Like I was writing it is my first challange ong CGtalk and U are keeping me worm why I thank U for it .

I'm still thinking about head in the meanwhile of correcting mestakes . Also fire wing . They probably will be different then this I allready made. Thanks for advice about fire and texturing this stuff . Sorry that I didn't reply all of U guys but after break I'll try to send my critique to Yors work...


Azazel - Dzieki stary !!..

[ROPA]

Hi all of U guys !
After the break I started to create the fire .
First think is that fire is not a solid object so this the first problem I need to handle . I posted the first idea to create fire but ot's probably not for this challege (textured :( ) I'll try to do somethink else but in the mean time I wanted to show to U guys what is that I want to have. I need to remake this to the solid mesh but I wonder of Uours opinion about haw to do this ...


Check it out...







http://www.orkafilm.com.pl/argail/fire_01.jpg

http://www.orkafilm.com.pl/argail/fire_02.jpg

[toma]

WOW i like it very much.

Maybe you could try to make those flames more wild, contrasted and thick. Maybe even try to give them movement, it would make your model much more dynamic !

Anyway great rendering !

toma.

[diazgl]

ok, i'm gonna be cruel, ONLY because i LOVE your model. GREAT model, lose the fire. The model is beautiful, but the fire, well i'll put it this way, not the level of art that seems fitting for your model... I like the way it's arranged, but the texture sorta bites. Work on it some more, and keep it up!!

PS: well, if you are dying to show motion, how about rugs, wraped on him (like long pieces) being blown away from wind, only upwards? I'm not sure if you're getting my idea. Uhm, replace your fire with rugs (thin cloth, only heavily destructed), only a lot fewer, and with the same direction...:D

[ROPA]

Thanks for advice about wing . Problem is that i'm not shure if I can use texture and to create fire on solid objects is very hard . I'v newver seen sculpture of fire . I'm worry that it wont be recodnise as fire . Creating flat model of fire is allso not best way . It looks like fabric . Finaly I decide that I'll create just the solid part of wings and fire wont be done to chelleng .
Thanks anyway ...

Here are pictures of finaly made wings and connection to the body .. Now it's just head left .




http://www.orkafilm.com.pl/argail/ed_01.jpg
http://www.orkafilm.com.pl/argail/ed_02.jpg
http://www.orkafilm.com.pl/argail/ed_03.jpg
http://www.orkafilm.com.pl/argail/ed_04.jpg

[ROPA]

http://www.orkafilm.com.pl/argail/tx_01.jpg

http://www.orkafilm.com.pl/argail/tx_02.jpg




GOOD LUCK TO EVERY ONE IN THIS CHALLENG ....!

[phade2]

Your model is dope!.....reminds me of one of the cinematic sequences from diablo2:buttrock:

[Dark_Des]

truly good, I mean your concept is great, and character is kicking ass, I'd like to see it textured. ;)

[rebeldreams]

Waaah!

Wanna see his HEAD!!:bounce:

LOVE it!!

~RD

[diazgl]

Beautiful, but I got 2 questions.
-Isn't the skin texture a bit metallic? I mean you are not allowed to texture it, but you should change the specular, or glossiness level, unless you want it that way
-The AA is kinda bad.....try higher AA?

[leigh]

Cool model!! It also reminds me of something out of the (absolutely incredible) Diablo II cinematics.
Very very cool.
I'm really looking forward to seeing the head :)

[Ben Stimulor]

I liked it without the wings.
They look as though they're an after-thought.
The supports and wire are a great touch and as far as I'm concerned it works perfectly without a head.
It has that HellRaiser/Cenobite atmosphere about it.
Leave it on the supports and loose the wings.
As far as I know, Prometheus never had any.

[ROPA]

Again thx for replies.

Today I'll finish head . It will be normal human head in deep pain with some holes like whole body .

diazgl - yes skin is metalic but I asked about it and I'v seen that other chellengers are doing thesame . Ofcourse it is just to show haw it could look . My final model with head will be lambert .
What is AA ?


Ben Stimulor - I allso was thinking about not creating the head but building a face with pain will push this project more to the way I wanted to show my god imprison .
Like I was write before wings are kind of just construction for FIRE WING that are leting fly to my god . I know that Prometheus didn't had any wing but I just took the idea of creating god not the god him self . I posted kind of way they look with texture of fore before (wings ). Thx...


I wan't to thank U guys for replies in my first challeng and wish GOOD LUCK to all of U..

l_farley13_l
diazgl
Fetus23
lowdown
Dark_Des
Threedeemer
toma
Sangotten
gL_spear
111
Pancreas
azazel
Darkelfv
rebeldreams
phade2
Leigh
Ben Stimulor


THX....

ARGAIL.

[Teyon]

Wow this is really cool! Good luck!

[ROPA]

Could someone tell me what I have to do when I'll finish my work .

Should I submit it somewher .. (I'll allready submited haw they will findout which one is the right ??? )

[ROPA]

AGAIN THANKS TO ALL FOR HELP AND COMPETITION .
I WISH TO ALL OF U LUCK (some wont need it )

HERE ARE MY FINISHED WORK.. (I HOPE A DID EVERYTHINK RIGHT WITH SUMITTING TO THIS CHALLENG )

http://www.orkafilm.com.pl/argail/argailgod_01.jpg

http://www.orkafilm.com.pl/argail/argailgod_02.jpg

http://www.orkafilm.com.pl/argail/argailgod_03.jpg

http://www.orkafilm.com.pl/argail/argailgod_04.jpg

http://www.orkafilm.com.pl/argail/argailgod_05.jpg

http://www.orkafilm.com.pl/argail/argailgod_06.jpg

AGAIN THANKS ....

[Lonewolf]

O_O

That's disturbing. Good job.

[Catfish]

Very nice. To me, it looks like what would happen to Icarus after he dies and is sent to hell...

I like the rendering style - did you use Mental Ray in the end?

[hiko_]

excelent work and idea !
bravo !

[l_farley13_l]

Bravo. Great conclusion !!

see you,

Farley13

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