Vehicle: Titanic - April 10, 1912 Southampton

[jger]

I´d like to comment on this one, but it seems that www.extra.hu is down or something. I get no ping nor the picture itself. If it is the same as shown in your avatar I like it very much. I remember seeing this picture a long time ago and I loved it!

J.

[neu]

Originally posted by mental|disease
I´d like to comment on this one, but it seems that www.extra.hu is down or something. I get no ping nor the picture itself. If it is the same as shown in your avatar I like it very much. I remember seeing this picture a long time ago and I loved it!

J.

Yes it's the same as in my avatar, just some extra details in it. Like the seagulls.

Is it downloading for you guys? If you cannot see it, just tell, I try to find another server!

neu

[two.oh]

link?

i dont see any

[JoBbE]

http://www.extra.hu/tuningcenter/3d/titanic_800.jpg

this should be it.

the server is slow, so the pic takes some time to appear...

*downloading*

edit: hm the server seems to be too slow.. sorry, can't see it

[LPlasma]

wouldn't load at all for me, perhaps you should consider finding a new host.

[Max4ever]

i can see it...very good!
i've seen it before and i wanted to ask you something: you said it was all done on a pentium2 64 ram or something...how the hell is that possible?
anyway...how much compositing is in there...and don't tell me it's all rendered in a still frame couse i won't belive you :D
"the force strong in you is..." :D

[stephen2002]

can't see the picture :annoyed: and it looks so good

Try uploading a copy at my forums.

[neu]

Ohh...shit. Sorry guys. This website is working properly for me. I uploaded it to Stephen's forum, but the link is not an image, but a php. So I re-edited the link, so it must work!

Max forever:

Oke, I don't mind if you don't belive it, but there are only one composition layer on it, and it's the seagull layer, I added it last week :) I started the project on a P133 with 128MB and a 8MB FireGL pro. Now I have a Dual PIII 1000 with 2GB of RAM so now I have enought power to finish the animation (but don't have time :)

neu

[phoenix2k]

Yes it works fine... and wow youve got some detail there!!! All those people! absolutely great... Only one critic... those steam towers look too brassy, probably because you used a high specular... try lowering that a bit...

othwerise... :thumbsup: you've got 5 stars from me!!!

[sebek27]

unbelievable detail!! what software did you use ? :bounce:

[neu]

It was in 3DS MAX 2.5, scanline render. Some statistics:

Project Start/End Date: January 18, 1999 - March 19, 1999 + 1 month for research.

Used Software: Kinetix 3D Studio MAX 2.5, Surface Tools,
Pandora, FreePyro, Character Studio beta, PhotoShop, Affter Effects (as it's an animation)

Hardware used: MMX233 (sorry max4ever, I missed it, it was 4 years ago!), 128MB FGL1000Pro for modeling the ship, Dual PII 333, 256MB FGL1000Pro for the rest

Technical details:

- Scene Size: 147Mb
- Textures: 35Mb
- Objects: more than 2200 (Without the bipeds)
- Faces: 1,1 Million (Without the bipeds)
- Lights: 7
- Particle systems: 16
- Characters: 690+

Used Resource:

- Titanic Model Kit from Academy 1:350 Scale (76.8cm/30.24inch)
- Some information included in the kit from Titanic Historical Society
- Titanic - Secrets Revealed, Documentary 1998
- Titanic - The movie by James Cameron 1998
- Discovery Channel - Titanic, Expedition to the Deep
- Cinefex, December 1997
- Many WEB sources.

[teh fury]

wow just incredible.. :bowdown:

[Max4ever]

well then...what can i say...you rulle man! ;)
btw, i made an animation with titanic...but mixing realvideo with 3d model and whater added later.
take a look if you have time...the ideea was that titanic comes to our city...the link is below

http://www.visualart.ro/animations/max4ever/titanic_making_of.avi

go planet! :bounce:

[neu]

Originally posted by max4ever
well then...what can i say...you rulle man! ;)
btw, i made an animation with titanic...but mixing realvideo with 3d model and whater added later.
take a look if you have time...the ideea was that titanic comes to our city...the link is below

http://www.visualart.ro/animations/max4ever/titanic_making_of.avi

go planet! :bounce:

Max4ever

I think I saw a render of the nose of your ship. Don't you have any images on web about the ship? I planned totally the same anim for fun, but the ship doesn't fi under the bridges of Budapest :p

Anyway it's a good idea, and I like the ship's model, but you should work on the shader of the ship and the lighting to match the Real video plate. I like the idea anyway :thumbsup:

neu

[Max4ever]

you're from budapest huh? well, i'm from bucharest so we're nabers...and the titanic can travel from here to your city in 7-8 hours :D
the project is old man...1 year ago so i won't change it :P
anyway yours is much better ;)

[neu]

Originally posted by max4ever
you're from budapest huh? well, i'm from bucharest so we're nabers...and the titanic can travel from here to your city in 7-8 hours :D
the project is old man...1 year ago so i won't change it :P
anyway yours is much better ;)

No, I'm from Tatabanya, 60km west from Budapest, but my Company is in Budapest.

You told your's is an old project...mine too. It's done in 99 :) But few weeks ago I reopened it, as now I have strong rendering capabilities, so I started rendering the animation, and added the seagulls. Now I'm thinking to prepare it to render in brazil, and make some compositing...but I really don't have enough time for it :(

neu

[Max4ever]

don't you have a renderfarm there?
and i sugest you try vray...it's much faster and the quality the same...take a look at this animation i've done in vray
www.visualart.ro/temp_img/dragos_jieanu/workshop.avi
with brazil it would take 3 months to render...with vray i've finished it in 2 weeks ;)
btw...what rezolution are you planning to render the animation? 720/576?

[neu]

Originally posted by max4ever
don't you have a renderfarm there?
and i sugest you try vray...it's much faster and the quality the same...take a look at this animation i've done in vray
www.visualart.ro/temp_img/dragos_jieanu/workshop.avi
with brazil it would take 3 months to render...with vray i've finished it in 2 weeks ;)
btw...what rezolution are you planning to render the animation? 720/576?

I've rendered the first sequence in PAL widescreen. There will be some post process in after effects to make it looking like a real celluliod strip like in the movies. No, I don't have a renderfarm :) But I've got a Dual PIII 1000 with 2 GB of rams, so 1 frame in this resolution took about 16-20 minutes.

I like that workshop anim. Looks great. Maybe I'll try VRay if I find it (I'm out of MAX businnes, becouse I'm using Maya for more that 2 years)

neu

[stradi]

really goog render, but i think that the gull is too big, it is a gull isn't it?

[D. Phoenix]

I am quite impressed by this work. It shows much effort and attention to the details.

Will you post some general non-scene views of the ship itself?

I am sure many would like to see the many details you have modeled.

-D. Phoenix
www.Phoenix-Archetypes.Com

[Eman597]

This looks great!!! I really love what youve done with it. The only crit i see is that the bird in the middle seems a little cockeyed. Not natural. otherwise, CHEERS! :beer:

[neu]

stradi

Wich one gull is too big? The one that is about 30-40m of the camera (the ship is about 200m), or the one that seems to be above the people down there?


Eman597

I'm still working on the gulls. Thanks for the crit.

D.Phoenix

Sorry I wont :) I created this scene to view from this distance (I did it on an MMX233, so I had no chance for better detailing), I don't want to destroy the illusion by showing the ship much closer :) Maybe I can post a wireframe max shot if you like...

neu

[gL_spear]

superb!!! very well researched by the looks of things as well ;)

[NeonGuy]

hali Neutron srác ... nagyon tetszik ez a kep! szép a füst, meg minden egyéb ... az animáció kint van neten valahol??

[Libor]

Hi neu!!
For me, its a legendary pic for a long time:-) !!! This is my first chance to congratulate you! Cool stuff, man! I cant image a scene like this (over 690 characters) in 3dsmax without crashes all the time and working with it!! Big respect:thumbsup:

I am really interested to see some of your recent work cos it must be miles away from 99 works:buttrock:

Keep posting, man!


Cheers

[neu]

NeonGuy

Koszi, orulok hogy tetszik! Anim nincs kint neten, mert csak akkor akarom kirakni ha kesz van, ugy nagyobbat ut ;) Na viccet felreteve meg van vele melo, de nem igazan tudom mit lehet kihozni belole, mert sokkal kozelebb nem eri meg odamenni.

Libor

Thank you! It was the first time I dealed with charachters, and I think the last one ;) It's not that hard to manage them. I saved certain parts of the ship and the dock to separate files, And I worked on them separately. There's a brunhc of the guys on the nose, a brunch for each boarding bridge, and the guys in the dock. Then I merged them into the main scene. But now I have no chance to modify any of them in the main file :) There's a REALLY BIG chaos in the viewports, it's impossible to select anything :)

Unfortunately it was my last big project, as now I have a software developer company, and I have no months to work on a hobby project. Now I'm building an F-16D Fighter in Rhino at home, and got an original designed VTOL aircraft done in Rhino and Maya. And one more, I have a plane crash accident in progress.

neu

[neu]

D. Phoenix

Okay, here's a pic from the ship only without any shaders to see the details. (Some opacity maps are missing here). One more is coming soon.

http://giraf.elte.hu/~neutron/3d/brazil2.jpg

neu

[D. Phoenix]

An excellent model, neu

I also have a plastic model of the ship here and from a comparison I can say it is quite accurate.

Did you use subdivision method of modelling the main hull or another method?

Well done.

[Libor]

Looking forward to see your F-16 in action:D

By the way - you said you didnt deal with details but the Titanic model is simply amazing! Have you rendered any other views of the scene cos it screams for zillion of views:) :) :)

[neu]

Originally posted by D. Phoenix
An excellent model, neu

I also have a plastic model of the ship here and from a comparison I can say it is quite accurate.

Did you use subdivision method of modelling the main hull or another method?

Well done.

D. Phoenix


I have the Academy 1/350 scale R.M.S. Titanic, and the kit is not really accurate. There are some additional details on my 3D model what the real scale stuff doesn't have. I plan to buy some aftermaket details from Tom's Modelworks. Now it's in box, I even not started becouse of it's inaccuracies. But it will be ok with the eftermarket stuff. (Unfortunatelly I don't have time for this kit now, I have 3 simultaneos scale modell project in progress :)

neu

[Guirnaldo]

me go loco

:argh:

solution!

:beer:

conclusion!

:drool:

nice work man! damn damn damn... :cool:

[neu]

Originally posted by D. Phoenix
An excellent model, neu

I also have a plastic model of the ship here and from a comparison I can say it is quite accurate.

Did you use subdivision method of modelling the main hull or another method?

Well done.

D. Phoenix

I forgot....No, I didn't use subdiv, the hull is from spline, I used SurfaceTools for it.

neu

[neu]

Originally posted by Libor
Looking forward to see your F-16 in action:D

By the way - you said you didnt deal with details but the Titanic model is simply amazing! Have you rendered any other views of the scene cos it screams for zillion of views:) :) :)

Libor

No. I said It's not detailed for close look. It's not that close :) About more views. All the setups (lights, characters, etc) was made for this view, but I'll see what can I do for ya ;)

neu

[unrealwarfare]

unbelievable!!! :buttrock:

[Sound]

höhö, hát igen, magyar skill üt :buttrock:

guy from irc channel #cg :thumbsup:

nem írom hogy nice work, mert megköveznek :p (pedig az)

[Talos]

wirez wirez :surprised

[SheepFactory]

hey pretty cool ,

i remember seeing this image when i first started 3d , it was inspirational. :)

[neu]

Originally posted by Sound
höhö, hát igen, magyar skill üt :buttrock:

guy from irc channel #cg :thumbsup:

nem írom hogy nice work, mert megköveznek :p (pedig az)

Orulok hogy tetszik :) Egyebkent a #CG-t en csinaltam kb 7 evvel ezelott 2 masik kollegaval :) Orulok, hogy meg el a csati!

neu

[neu]

Originally posted by D. Phoenix
I am quite impressed by this work. It shows much effort and attention to the details.

Will you post some general non-scene views of the ship itself?

I am sure many would like to see the many details you have modeled.

-D. Phoenix
www.Phoenix-Archetypes.Com

D. Phoenix

I've found another view of the ship:

http://giraf.elte.hu/~neutron/3d/brazil.jpg

neu

[PureFire]

amazing work!!....i bet your recent projects are going to be even better.:buttrock:

[Goon]

It is positively beautiful. The atmosphere on the right is just awesome. The only thing that bothers me is the pure white in the sky on the left. Has this not been completed or something?

[ThirdEye]

Incredible sense of detail here :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

ps those seagulls seem 10x bigger than an albatross :p

[neu]

Originally posted by PureFire
amazing work!!....i bet your recent projects are going to be even better.:buttrock:

No..it was my last serious project, as now I have a game developer company, and unfortunately I don't have months for this kind of projects. I've got a Hornet Crash project, a MidRange VTOL aircraft (my design) and an F-16D in progress...but I don't have time to finish them :(

neu

[DaRt]

hmm wut does the hardware have to do with anything
i confused
dont mind i new but.. ?

[neu]

Goon

This white sky is the morning fog in the bay. I think ;)

ThirdEye

Big birds? How far is it from the camera? :) You don't know. There's a seagull close to the ship, but nobody noticed it becouse it's far as the ship, and it seems much smaller. The gulls you guys saying to big are close to the camera. It can be reognized in motion better. Thrust me, I know how big is a seagull :)

DaRT

Sorry but I don't understand you question exactly. (maybe becouse my poor english)

neu

[DaRt]

they were asking what hardware you used, but what does the hardware have to do with making the image? anywyas really nice btw good job, you deserve a good beer for that one :beer: but dont drink to mucb becuz u might just :drool: :-D

:thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

[blindsleeper]

DaRt: the main reason they were asking about the hardware used was the fact that the image is very complex, and to have been created so long ago is nothing short of incredible...

[brianellebracht]

Grat work! absolutly amazing. Thanks alot for your help interest with my F-15. If you need help with anything, let me know. Just email or Pm me. Great work!
brian

[neu]

Originally posted by brianellebracht
Grat work! absolutly amazing. Thanks alot for your help interest with my F-15. If you need help with anything, let me know. Just email or Pm me. Great work!
brian

Brian

You're welcome, If you need any tech info about modern jets, just tell ;)

neu

[neu]

Here's a wireframe view of the scene:

http://giraf.elte.hu/~neutron/3d/WIRE_MAX.jpg

neu

[brianellebracht]

Wow that looks great. How long does it take to render? Do you plan on making an animation?
Brian

(BTW I sent you a PM)

[o-phile]

I see it, but i dont' believe it... oO, wow:buttrock:

[neu]

Originally posted by brianellebracht
Wow that looks great. How long does it take to render? Do you plan on making an animation?
Brian

(BTW I sent you a PM)

It has an animation, but it's only 150 frames now. 690 people moving, smoke and dust, caustics, etc...

neu

[brianellebracht]

Must take a while to render! looks great.
Brian

[jchoi]

Rock and Roll!!

That's only two months of work???

Hope you can't animate, though. :p

:buttrock:

[neu]

Originally posted by jchoi
Rock and Roll!!

That's only two months of work???

Hope you can't animate, though. :p

:buttrock:

Yes, 2 months day and night + 1 month for searching and getting resources. It has an animation already rendered, but 150 frames only.

neu

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