CGTalk - Gods/Demons - Character

Manny

03-24-2002, 04:07 PM

well i have started on some of the armor for the character ,the model was done in nurbs then converted to polys then subd for more detailing.i still have some more designs to incorporate in the chest plate ,but once that is done i should move on to the arms.well like to get back some c&c as i go along.

Lorenzo

03-24-2002, 08:16 PM

I hope you have many time for finish your caracter.
looking for updates:cool:

hiko_

03-24-2002, 08:22 PM

wouaw impressive !

animalunae

03-24-2002, 10:24 PM

Great, very impressive

InnerVortex

03-24-2002, 11:49 PM

gorgeous :drool: :drool: :drool: :drool:

J.Peckham

03-24-2002, 11:53 PM

insert sound of jaw dropping here.

alaklij

03-25-2002, 01:11 AM

So, what is your background in art? You seem to have a grasp of shading I would see in a life drawing course in college.

I like the drawing, looking forward to your results.

I wish I could enter this challenge, but I have my thesis to finish.

Matt.

Manny

03-25-2002, 01:48 AM

well thank you all for the compliments. I will try really hard to finish it on time, Lorenzo i just hope that my schedule will permit me to.but overall i think i will be able to finish about 80-90% of the modeling then on to rigging which i,m going to impliment a bone and muscle rig (hence the skeleton).once again thank you all for the C&C.
btw, hiko i think your'e modeling is pretty top notch,incredible stuff man,cant wait to see the other chracter.also what are you using to render.

Ambient

03-25-2002, 01:52 AM

nice, great modeling and drawing skills.

diazgl

03-25-2002, 02:21 AM

Damn, what are you a machine? This is perfect!

cerreto

03-25-2002, 02:59 AM

wow man thats realy awesome the skeleton is neat ! you just use that as a map though for the flesh ?

psumo

03-25-2002, 03:06 AM

Wowow!
great details
very cool designs
rigging looks like it's gonna be a pain in the ass tho
especially with maya and you're using a lot of non-quads
in this model
it looks great anyways

maya_death

03-25-2002, 03:12 AM

nice work i like the style :applause:

parallax

03-25-2002, 03:19 AM

very impressive.
Thats some nice linework you got in your model.
Also love your style of drawing.

Manny

03-25-2002, 04:09 AM

well once again thank you very much for the C&C,as far as rigging is concerned i will be dealing with alot of nuances here and there but , my R&D department is pretty kick butt at hashing things out even with maya.As far as the surfaces are concerned all of the issues with modelling will be worked on before it gets to rigging its still a WIP.well this is the basic bone structure of what its going to look like once completed.well i think i should just stop talking on continue working.laters see you soon

Manny

03-25-2002, 04:09 AM

skeletal structure

hiko_

03-25-2002, 04:36 AM

you roXe !
you have my vote ! i love it ! ca proute severe !

ARG EUH BLURF ...
:wip: :scream:

Manny

03-25-2002, 06:05 AM

merci beaucoup mon ami ,sorry my french has gone down the drain since i havnt spoken it since i was a kid but once again i also love your character and beilieve me you have my vote.also what are you using to render your character.

hiko_

03-25-2002, 06:18 AM

De rien ! You're work is amazing so it's normal ! :applause:
Why you make bone structure ?
I use XSI 2 and mental ray as renderer with Final Gather.

PS : thxs for your compliements.
PS2 sony : sorry for my poor english.

Koma

03-25-2002, 06:21 AM

fabuleux,amazing ,great entries you have my vote for sure .

dave_baer

03-25-2002, 06:22 AM

MANNY!!!! Nice work, as usual... Can't wait to see the final model.

Lonewolf

03-25-2002, 07:31 AM

Originally posted by hiko_
De rien ! You're work is amazing so it's normal ! :applause:
Why you make bone structure ?
I use XSI 2 and mental ray as renderer with Final Gather.

PS : thxs for your compliements.
PS2 sony : sorry for my poor english.

You know you can only vote once right:) You said this in both Mike RB's and Piz's thread, just letting you know. BTW, can we get a shot without the transparency?

Manny

03-25-2002, 07:49 AM

well the reason that i,m creating the bone structure is so that i have something to build of from when laying down the muscle mass.i plan on rigging this chracter in the near future with the muscle and bone set up,having the bone and muscle actually moving and controling the weight and constraints of the characters flesh.Its something that my company is currently working on so i,m supplying the team with a test model.
and after watching blade2 I decided to test out our rig by doing one of the sequences from the movie.
thats going to be alot fun i,m waiting for that very much so.

ps.(dave_baer) hey hows it going dave i thought that alx and gareth were the only ones here.its good to hear from you.so hows school coming along? :)

Manny

03-25-2002, 07:49 AM

more muscle mass

vizion

03-25-2002, 07:53 AM

I'm reserving my comments for the fina.. oh what the hell, Fantastincredibstupendouslygood ..oh yea n looks nice too...WOW. Keep the renders comming. =)

hiko_

03-25-2002, 07:59 AM

You know you can only vote once right:) You said this in both Mike RB's and Piz's thread, just letting you know. [/B]

ARF ... i believed that i could vote for 3 people ... sorry ... so you have my vote :)

Great update... keep up the good work :wip:

ycf98

03-25-2002, 09:23 AM

hey very well defined modelling . love the concept man keep it up ! will be looking forward to this one . u've got my vote so far !

SpaceJASE

03-25-2002, 11:16 AM

so, are you guys working on an in-house plugin for the muscle thing or are you just going to rig them all up as deformers or something?

oh, and -uh-
nice modeling! :eek:

Manny

03-25-2002, 01:58 PM

well right now its going to be an inhouse plugin but who knows what will happen in the future.we would have to wait and see.

Manny

03-25-2002, 04:01 PM

here is another image of the skeleton alomost done all i have to do is run this through with the rigging department and then back to modeling.it took about 6 hours to complete the entire muscles mass so i,m pretty much on deadline next thing is to finish the charaters leg and head.i will also try and sqeeze in one more character but i think it might be pushing it just a little,we'll see.The skeleton model is not my own, it was modeled by one of my employees (HECTOR MORAN) for another project,but its only used for rigging purposes.

Manny

03-25-2002, 04:26 PM

i think i,m going to call it a night these 36 hour days are a killer ,well this is the basic 3d mesh for the face until i start to ad more detail and more wrinkles on the face.i,m trying to get everything done at lightning speed so just bare with me.i also have to finish the chest plate,model the legs,structure the face,finalize the muscle mass,model a h____e, i,m still thinking about that one.well before i pass out at work and get called computer face again i must depart.farewell until tomorrow.

Manny

03-25-2002, 04:26 PM

a better look

dave_baer

03-25-2002, 04:45 PM

well before i pass out at work and get called computer face again i must depart.
LOL! Hey Manny, just set up your cot in the labs again! =)

Damn bro, can ya slow down a second? I'm still trying to look at the previous pics.. =P

Nice work.

Me, I'm doing the Masters thing now. Go to my website (http://www.fraghq.com/brainswell) and check my latest stuff. As usual, I got a lot of started projects but nothing yet finished. haha...

Well, looking forward to seeing it finished and textured. (Oh yeah all you guys here.. just wait until you see these guys lay down some textures!)

BTW: Does MindJuice have a website? If not, let's talk. =)

rolhionjs

03-25-2002, 04:59 PM

wow ! impressive... pfff... your transparency is surely better than mine... gosh... what a work... :) :) :)

diazgl

03-25-2002, 05:11 PM

DAMN!! You rock. You are god. I LOVE this!! You just press your nose and your hands start working on themselves? Damn, this is a winner! :thumbsup:

DiGiTal

03-25-2002, 05:42 PM

ARE YOU HUMAN ???????
Perhaps it's a self portait..... lol

Very, very nice work !

hiko_

03-25-2002, 06:05 PM

You are a killing machine ....

Manny

03-26-2002, 12:55 AM

well i think that was a really nice 5 hour nap so i,m back in,today i will be working on finishing the lower part of the character and also working on head.well here we go another day another dollar.

psumo

03-26-2002, 04:20 AM

You work so fast
What is the total time you spent on this so far?
Your character is my favorite

Real bone and muscle simulation with maya?
very weird stuff. I heard about PDI doing that with
their characters but I always though it was a gimic.

Also you mention your R&D department and your employees
Do you own you're own company???

Manny

03-26-2002, 05:24 AM

well i think the time frame on this project has been an complete total of about 2 days so far, that is of course working 48 hour days.well as far as the company thing is concern yes i own production company situated in south florida.FINALE STUDIOS

jose

03-26-2002, 06:04 AM

FREAKY..u r a FREAK! this so awesome!:buttrock:

the level of talent 'ere is rising everyday.
do you work for a FX company?

maya_death

03-26-2002, 06:29 AM

man .owwwwww
thats a realy professional character you have my vot .do you know any plugin in maya for muscle simulation ? pleas tell me more about your inhouse software .what is your plan for simulation this muscles (soft body?bind slkin?) how do you bind muscle with bone .do you use a proxy model for animation and then warp it with the main mesh? or what ever .and what is you computer for simulation all this musle. i see a lot of subdivision .its realy heavy for simulation .pleas give us more update. or maybe give me your inhouse software :D (very funny?) i have rat 4.5 and other things . see you friend . nice work:applause: :applause: :applause: :thumbsup:

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Manny

03-26-2002, 06:54 AM

well as far as the methods that we are going to be implemeting on this project my team is currently working on R&D as we speak,and becuase of obvious reasons i can not dwell on the method to long,but some of what you said will be implented on this project such as a proxy model and using wrap deformers ,and blendshaping.But its not just as simple as that but be sure that we will keep everybody updated as much as we can.

jose:no i do not work for a special fx company my company does mostly commercials ,and broadcast work. btw thank you very much for the compliments.
ps.i,m digging your character ,good start just needs some more details,(pay close attention to details,as much as you can,little ads up to alot):)

Lonewolf

03-26-2002, 09:00 AM

That's really awesome but I don't see the point in modeling the muscles and bones, unless you already explained and i'm just being ignorant:) Fantastic work nonetheless.

Haldir

03-26-2002, 09:46 AM

That's one fancy ass model.

I especially like the hands(very GOD LIKE).

Keep it up man. Er, rather. Slow Down

Oh yeah, and "psumo" what in the world do you mean, "Especially in MAYA"!!?

http://www.cgtalk.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=4523

dutch

03-26-2002, 10:04 AM

ow

u crazy man

looks wonderful so far

muckywetnoodle

03-26-2002, 10:18 AM

Really nice model you have going. :)
Can you post a wireframe (especially of the face)? Any other info you could disclose would be much appreciated by all as well. I realize some of that is sensitive but it's pretty cool to see a skeleton made up of anotomically accurate bones. You said the skeleton was for setup purposes. Is there another one you will use to animate?

pearson

03-26-2002, 01:09 PM

:eek: Wow! Veeeery impressive!

What is your prefered method for creating that many polys? SubDs? I've been trying to use Mirai's extrusion method in Maya, but Maya's tools for that aren't as evolved yet.

Disgusting

03-26-2002, 02:00 PM

This concept of character rigging remembers me of the Absolute Cahracter Tools (http://www.cgcharacter.com/ACT_eval.php) - are you working with those or are these new yet unknown tools especially for Maya?

Did you model the complete Skeleton yourself or is it part of the character setup package?

Anyway ... great work so far!

Manny

03-26-2002, 02:12 PM

hey guys hows it going?pulling another all nighter i think i should be wraped up with this character some time this weekend.well i hope that something doesnt throw me of schedule ,i didnt get as much done today as i had planned because of meetings with clients so i will have to pick up the pace.well what i have attached is an image showing some of the lower part of the character and a little more detail on the face.i,m sorry about the crappy quality but if anyone knows about a website to save as a link so you guys coiuld view this image better it would be great.well i guess thats it for now see you soon.

03-26-2002, 02:29 PM

your modeling approach is very interesting!!!an the result is under everybodyz eyes!!!:eek: Five stars Manny!!fivr stars!!!:eek:

maya_death

03-26-2002, 03:46 PM

hi again and wooooooo
(manny) i beleve that is the best character in this mount .the more interest for me is the process that you will be do to simulate this muscle .could you please give us a complet chart with detail? here is my hole idea about this task
use a proxy muscle to warp the skin? or use a proxy muscle as a influence for skin in smoth skin bind ?
another important thing for me is how exactly you will deform the muscle for desire shape. you use only blend shap ? or with softbody for collision the muscle together or just deform the muscle with some deformer like (lattice deformer) what a bout the connection between muscle and bone? and many othere question .please give us a professional answer with detail .thank s to you and your r&d team and other person on this project
what about a scripting? just expressions or mel or api
more information please
;)

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bibi5000

03-26-2002, 04:17 PM

jesus christ.

I'll become a monk or something like that. I just don't want to come near a 3D program anymore, if I see something as good as this.

You really are a freak, you know that?
:eek:

Lorenzo

03-26-2002, 05:11 PM

DAMN, YOU MAKE THIS IN 48 HOURS, YOUR THE GOD OF MODELISATION, you should post a picture of yourself, lollllll
It would be comic.:D

The Commander

03-26-2002, 05:20 PM

looshing, power of sppeeecsh. Damn too good! Have a round of applause...

:applause: :applause: :applause: :applause: :applause:

henry

03-26-2002, 05:46 PM

yea. whatever. it's good.

WHO AM I KIDDING!!? IT'S GREAT!!

aaaaaaaaaaaaaaa wwwwwwwwwwwwwwww eeeeeeeee

Koma

03-26-2002, 05:59 PM

modeling is so cool ,your a master but the res and the compression of the last image is cheap we not see clearly .its probably because you have no server and the max size is 50 k here . but i can put your image on my server if you want just send me the image -e-mail in profile

5 stars

dies-irae

03-26-2002, 06:09 PM

...i tought this was a contest to show gods...not to show who's the god...

OH MY!!!!!!!!!!:scream::scream::scream::scream::scream:
HOW DARE YOU do something like that and giving us only those little pictures???

i want it 2560x2048...and i want the print... and ehr... could you sign it???

03-26-2002, 06:15 PM

yes!!!dies-irae is right! give us a printable imageeee...pleeeaseeee......

rondo

03-26-2002, 07:00 PM

DAMN MY DAY JOB!!!!

Just when I think I'm getting a little better, someone steps up the pace. That's it .... I quit!! :scream:

I'd love to get my hands on the equipment that is going to render this guy!

Awesome job.

MagnusL3D

03-26-2002, 07:30 PM

Yickes.. this is like...and the mesh..it looks so perfect..I wish my mesh looked like that..

SpaceJASE

03-26-2002, 07:35 PM

earlier you said you go from nurbs to poly to sub-d.
do you always model that way? For the body as well as the armor? for all organic modeling?

i'd like to see what you can do when you're well rested! he he

keep it up!

parel

03-26-2002, 10:42 PM

woow! I dont even know how you are doing what you are doing. And the speed at which you are working. Just incredible. DAMN MY DAY JOB!!!! :mad: :annoyed: :scream: :D

DKScully

03-27-2002, 01:01 AM

AHHH... this is............ IS¡¡¡¡¡

:-) I like it a lot...

Congratulations...

Could we know where are u from? Where do u work? Are u married?

Just kidding....

jose

03-27-2002, 01:25 AM

you got my vote.. man, this some CRAZY @#$%!!! This like FF movie quality, rigging with muscles and actual bone structure! :applause:

btw the way thanks for the tip..will do!

:)

misterboogie

03-27-2002, 04:10 AM

Awesome work Manny! You're definately a Maya Bigot!
I mean that in the best possible way!

Can't wait to see this guy's rig!

kfc

03-27-2002, 04:36 AM

yikes~!
i really can't believe my eye~!
:eek:

Maya still rulez~!

03-27-2002, 04:44 AM

Seem tha i need to see and update............................................................................:) ...yes ...an update is what i need..............................................;) hem.....i really need that update..............................................:( where is the update mom.......................................................:annoyed: I need it...................................................................:mad: I NEED IT!!!!!

he he he he........Manny where are you now?he he he he vrey very good job!!!!!:applause: :applause: :applause: :applause: :applause:

l_farley13_l

03-27-2002, 07:00 AM

I need to see the meathod!!! awwwe it's just the end result that matters . . but still :D::D:D:D:D:D by far the most stunning both technically and artistically.

Are you doing some hard body simulation too for the armor ?
Well some spots escaped your godly hand: the nose region looks a little funny, might be the lighting, but doesn’t the crease go above the nostril? the fore arm looks a little funky too, but I’m sure that’s a technical issue :)

ahh calmed down now. Just professional. Up until now I thought it was a competition. [swift hand to the forehead]

see you,

Farley13

Titan

03-27-2002, 09:11 AM

beautiful work man...very inspirational!

alx

03-27-2002, 09:17 AM

hi manny!!!
NICE TOO SEE U ENTERED THE CHALLENGE!!!.

great work... no more words to express the quality!!..
love it..

is that a deamon or a god?.. lol.. I LOVE IT..
I KNOW I AM GONING TO HAVE NIGHTMARES!!..

just hope to see it finished man,!!
again.. love it!!

sincerely

alx
:drool:

:wavey:

dave_baer

03-27-2002, 03:47 PM

LOL Manny, this isn't the Academy Awards ya know. =) heh heh...

It's true though what you said. It's nice to see people on these forums giving support to eachother instead of trash talking eachother. I like that a lot.

I don't really have time right now to enter this challenge, and considering it's almost over I guess I'll have to pass anyway. School has me busy on some modeling and animation projects. But perhaps next challenge I'll participate and enter something. But in the meantime, you guys can check some of my work at my website BRAINSWELL. (http://www.fraghq.com/brainswell)

L8rs. =)

diazgl

03-27-2002, 05:50 PM

waaaait a second!! No render? Cmon!!! just one!!

Manny

03-27-2002, 06:46 PM

well guys i,m almost done with this character.I,m still debating whether to either finalize the characters surface or move on to the horse model for this guy.well if you want me to finish the character then write GOD and if you want me to start on the horse then write HORSE ok,and the first 8 out of 15 will win.
well this is what i have done of the character so far.just a few better images ,still cant find that free web page.www.cgtalk.com/attachment.php?s=&attachmentid=2541www.cgtalk.com/attachment.php?s=&attachmentid=2541 (http://www.cgtalk.com/attachment.php?s=&attachmentid=2541)
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Manny

03-27-2002, 06:48 PM

image

Manny

03-27-2002, 06:54 PM

image

Manny

03-27-2002, 06:56 PM

image

Manny

03-27-2002, 07:00 PM

www.cgtalk.com/attachment.php?s=&attachmentid=2541

ycf98

03-27-2002, 07:07 PM

HORSE HORSE N MAYBE SOME GREAT BIG SWORD OR A ROCKET LAUNCHER OR SUMTHIN . NUFF SAID !!!

rebeldreams

03-27-2002, 07:21 PM

GOD

please... :D

An I wanna render, and surface and texture and a pony and a GI Joe, and a wabbit, and.. and.. and...:wip:

Manny

03-27-2002, 07:28 PM

lol lol lol :) :) that was a good one.

vizion

03-27-2002, 07:39 PM

stunning...!

111

03-27-2002, 07:46 PM

oh man....

no words

....the only thing I thought - his horns will prevent him from seeng his sides.

03-27-2002, 09:21 PM

horse
This guy deserve an horse...
So youg and so busy!Im just a little bit more old(im 31 and not still married,for the joy of my many female friends he he he he!) I perfectly understand you.....is about ten years that i have to manage my own company too...and is more difficult everyday!! the cgi evolves,the market evolves.....it is a mass and there are everytime less space 4 the funny things!!!!:mad:i use to model Feren-Rinr by night..OUCH ......I also agree everything you post befor the update10.AH !! TNX 4 your comments about my entry......:D it is a joy and i feel very honored!!!and still.......Great (night....sigh! work! :buttrock: :applause: :buttrock:

animalunae

03-27-2002, 09:33 PM

You just became my personal 3D GOD, this is tooo good

Btw: you should give him a horse, would be very nice

diazgl

03-28-2002, 12:52 AM

GOD plee-e-e-e-e-ase!!! FEED MY HUNGER!!! cmon man, just one little (?) render!! He is too complicate to just show wireframes and screen dumps!!

uxus

03-28-2002, 03:57 AM

HORSE!!! no, TWO HORSES!!! make it three... :wip: :D :D

kuman

03-28-2002, 05:16 AM

that is a sick model man

i don't usually post replies, just like to see what's going on, but i have to just reply and say that your model is beautiful.

bravo!

-k

zette16

03-28-2002, 05:46 AM

Hey Beautiful!

I see you've been busy. Your work looks great as always.

Nice patch modeling. Is ted still doing the textures?

Let me know how you have been doing over there in Miami.

Keep up the awesome work.

Hopefully next month Ill have enouch time to join the next challenge. I dd a great sketch and then the deadlines hit.....

Tell the mind juice (now finally studios) crew I said hi!

When does this challenge end anyway. Maybe Ill try to squeeze something in.....

Lisette

Manny

03-28-2002, 07:27 AM

well i think is took long enough to render i,m sorry guys but mayas' renderer is a pain in the butt.well i hope that you guys like it now time to work on the horse.take care.

zette 16,check your email babe.

Joel Hooks

03-28-2002, 07:48 AM

From the sketch and the render he has a lot of native american feel to him that is great. I think the skeleton/muscle/skin concept is spectacular to see in action. Sure beats the bulge deformer lattice :)

Thanks for getting that render up. It was well worth the wait. Do you think there will be animation tests before the end of the challenge? I want to see that wonderful rig in motion!:wip:

dutch

03-28-2002, 09:14 AM

fantastic

Manny

03-28-2002, 12:13 PM

just some more renders

Manny

03-28-2002, 12:19 PM

skel render

Facial Deluxe

03-28-2002, 01:45 PM

Yeah, give him a horse and go away ! You break my moral !

Awesome, awesome....

Manny

03-28-2002, 02:11 PM

well just a few images of some of my old work from previous projects.

Manny

03-28-2002, 02:12 PM

Manny

03-28-2002, 02:14 PM

Manny

03-28-2002, 02:15 PM

rebeldreams

03-28-2002, 02:15 PM

Well, thanks a bunch. I have to commit ritual suicide by dropping my computer and software on my head from a very great height indeed...

LOL!

OK, all I can say is that you are the most amazing modeller and designer I have EVER seen, and why you're not working for one of the Big Boys is beyond me.

If it's OK by you, I shall worship you as a God.

Omm.. omm.. Manny-padme-ommm....

diazgl

03-28-2002, 06:13 PM

man, these are just beautiful!! REALLY great modelling!!! The render is awesome, it's extreemely beautiful!! Are you also gonna get it textured?

Anim8r

03-28-2002, 10:20 PM

Manny...
what ever happened to the Ga-Sing project?

From the looks of things you are working somewhere (Nice muscle rig), but where?

P.S. let's hope we get that studio!

Anim8r

so_hi

03-29-2002, 12:47 AM

Very solid work.

Nice detailing.

What is the deal with the other images? There nice but, what do they have to do with anything.

I was also wondering about the sixth toe bone on the skeleton what is it for?

Again Nice work. http://www.cgtalk.com/images/icons/icon10.gifhttp://www.cgtalk.com/images/icons/icon14.gif

Good modeling to you.

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Manny

03-29-2002, 03:16 AM

well the character from the original concept had a sixth toe that was more like a claw but we decided to strach that and go with something else.and the other images are old images as stated on the title.someone just wanted to see some of my other stuff since i dont have a website.thx for the compliment

Manny

03-29-2002, 08:12 AM

medium shot

The Time Serpent

03-29-2002, 08:26 AM

its just ****ing RULEZ:buttrock: and i got a question do you have any tuturials or going to do one or just tips on riggin muscles? (recently i got ACT for 3dsmax)

Tennis

03-29-2002, 09:03 AM

The only thing i can say is .......damn! amazing!...just amazing! :D

hiko_

03-29-2002, 09:06 AM

marvellous ... you kill me :)

PS: why have you only four stars ?

SpaceJASE

03-29-2002, 09:51 AM

hey manny, what's the line around his thumb and knuckles?
looks intentional but i don't know if it a difference in skin type or something else...
or am i just a nitpicking?

when is your rigger going to get to work?!? doesn't he/she put in the hours you do? you know we're all waiting~ :D

Manny

03-29-2002, 11:22 AM

well i,m sorry about the rigging situation its just that we are so busy right now its not even funny just swamped with diffrent projects right now so we dont have to much time for our in house projects.but i will try my best to update,as far as the five stars hiko i dont sweat that my five stars is the C&C that i get from you guys.well take care guys later

feanor

03-29-2002, 03:21 PM

GREAT concept, GREAT modelling, GREAT detail !
Amazing !
:bounce: :bounce:

so_hi

03-29-2002, 09:04 PM

Manny do you actually have your company working on this months challenge? You are always saying we.

Just wondeing, I thought the challenges were for individuals not companies. :shrug:

Nice work none the less, I like the gold render.

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animalunae

03-29-2002, 11:35 PM

My nipples'll freeze off...soooo cool

Manny

03-29-2002, 11:40 PM

well when ever i refer to we smply beacause of rigging as far as the modeling goes that completelly model by me from scratch.

Stephen Vyas

03-30-2002, 12:16 AM

Manny, first off.. Just an amazing piece of work, absolutely brilliant. When I look at what other people have done, it's my number one source of inspiration, and this just floored me.
I have a few questions.. When you begin a character, what pre-prep do you do to consider his identity? Where do you go for inspiration? Any other helpful tips for modeling would be greatly appreciated. I'm lapsing on my 6th month of schooling at BCIT, so any help would be very kind.

A fan till the end...

-Steve
_______________________________

My Entry for the March Challenge (http://www.cgtalk.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=4345)
cgsteve@shaw.ca

parallax

03-30-2002, 02:02 AM

goody gum drops.:eek:

SirManfred

03-30-2002, 04:16 AM

HOLY SHIT!! I mean! AARGH!!
Why do i even bother trying to model???

Manny

03-30-2002, 07:31 AM

well this is a sketch that i,m doing for a throne so that my character could sit on.its going to be pretty coll hopefully.

psumo

03-30-2002, 07:36 AM

I wish that you would put him on a horse with a lot of armor
it seems to fit him more

Manny

03-30-2002, 08:16 AM

yea i know what you mean but trust me it will be cool regardless its just how you go about doing it.but with the deadline both with the challenge and clients over here i,m even lucky i got to finish the character.

Manny

03-30-2002, 08:27 AM

but who knows i might have to pull another 36hour day.:)
you know what.....you're right psumo it is called a challenge and it wouldnt be fair not to challenge myself ,so i,m going to take your suggestion and model the horse it wont be as cool as detail as i want it to be but i will try my best.thanks for the suggestion.:)

animalunae

03-30-2002, 03:12 PM

GREAT I'm looking forward to that one, you know there's a lot of detail in the reins, the hoofs and the hair (would be cool to let it hang over it's eyes), if you want to add more detail you can give the horsy some armor and shit, you'll manage I'm sure, really can't wait, you're the reason for me to start modeling, when I'm not in the mood...

03-30-2002, 04:29 PM

Amazing work as ever Manny.........the very first thing i notice looking at you work is that you got a veru personal style......i think that is one of the most important things that an artist must have to have successfull career,and Manny...YOU GOT IT!!!! bye "five star" man!;)

Manny

03-31-2002, 09:31 AM

well i just started on the horse so far its been about a couple of hours,i will be working on it allnight long.i would love some C&C on it.take care

Joel Hooks

03-31-2002, 09:47 AM

Well I hope you put the "maya fundementals" book to good use when you win this contest ;) - it looks like you could use some work on the basics of 3d design :o

l_farley13_l

03-31-2002, 09:59 AM

Very nice!! It's going to be gorgeous when your done!

Some small crits (verysmall):

The big horn on the front looks a little odd, maybe play with a larger base or different direction ?

Also the armor for the feet looks like it might impeed galloping, but your probably more expert than I on this :) Maybe separate the peices a bit around the joints (sorry couldn't find 1 reference on this :()

See you ,

Farley13

BTW Is this horse getting th' ole muscle rig too? :D Equestrian style!

Manny

03-31-2002, 11:31 AM

well this is the horse a little bit better than before there is still alot of work to be done but i still got 18 more hours to go before i pass out.C&C

p.s sorry l_farley13_l no horse rig ,and dont give the guys any ideas lol.:) thankx for the C&C man.

Manny

03-31-2002, 11:57 AM

thankx for the compliment lowdown.:)

animalunae

03-31-2002, 02:48 PM

Splashin', amazing, it takes an artist to create a horse like that in only a few hours, the picture of my new god is the empty space underneath your name

SEL

03-31-2002, 02:59 PM

Sup bud,

I dont know if Gabe told you, but I told him to say great job on the model, I havent really had the time to work on this challenge things cous the schools server has been down, I only recently been able to put stuff up, no sleep either! its 4AM and im still wide awake, I guess thats what happens to animators over time. I really dont want to critique cous I know this thing will be bad ass with or without critques, I didnt even know if it were possible to do a whole new model before the deadline, but there you go! But incase you did want some critiques, imagine your big guy on that horse, what I see is the guys feet touching the groud, you need to higher the leverage of the horse legs and maybe have his stomach area a little thiner. Also I personally think the first posts of the horse you put up were great because it shows alot more of the horses musles rather then it all being covered up like an armored wagon. As far as your character goes, no critiques, its buttyful. Well, thats all as far as that, I still cant sleep so I guess Ill draw something, always a fun thing to do at this time...

shaun

P.S. Hows did the demo reels come out, they finished yet? Interested in checking them out...

Manny

04-01-2002, 01:05 AM

thankx for the C&C cel its always welcomed i,m hoping that i will finish the character in time we are currently going to be doing a spot for the discovery channel so we are going to be pretty busy and i still have to get alot of the demos out for the clients so i hope that i have enough time.

[msf]

04-01-2002, 02:13 AM

*jaw drops*

manny your modelling to time ratio is amazing keep up the stellar work. I would critique you if I didnt find what I see so amazing.

skunk184

04-01-2002, 02:25 AM

I nearly missed this one........your character is absolutely amazing.......the best ive seen so far........you get my vote manny:applause: :applause: :applause: sorry everyone else

animalunae

04-02-2002, 12:01 AM

Hey euh...you got a website or something, where we can see your work, cause as everyone says, you're doing some amazing 3D man. Show some more, if you got the time.

Manny

04-02-2002, 05:43 AM

no i do not have a web site currently up but my company should have a web site up pretty soon and we will go indepth about the whole process

pcbehmer

04-02-2002, 11:30 AM

Man impressive work....

That´s my favorite carachter at all...

I´m just wondering how brilliant it will be when animated....

very, very, good work....

(if u had time, take a look at my character and sad what u think about it... your critcs will be VERY apreciated:D )

04-02-2002, 04:35 PM

Bottom soilingly good...

If I have one critiscism - it's that the modeling is too tight/competant/polished, I think you should scrap it all and never look back :rolleyes: :p :D

Damn you!!!

yosh

04-03-2002, 07:17 AM

yo rocko!!! nice model son..... beautiful ........ you never cease to amaze me!..... continue the heavy modelings.... ohhhh..... arigamo says hi...

hallo shark!!
foking kiss:mad:

DrAdamDinosaur

04-03-2002, 05:16 PM

Wow, i have been hiding under a rock haven't i! I have completely missed this thread all together. I only discoverred i ta few minutes ago and i must say i am amazed at the detail you have gone into. the character is so detailed. The fact that you hace gone into skeleton and muscular setup.... when i saw the pics i was just blown away. This is awesome stuff. Just thought i'd say that. I don't have any useful critisism so i'll just leave now.

hiko_

04-03-2002, 07:21 PM

Very good work manny !
Have you a email ? Thanks

stelvis

04-03-2002, 11:23 PM

hehe manny

you need to slow down man :)

seriously - it ****s you up in the end

as everyone else has said though, awesome work

theDunadan

04-04-2002, 12:59 AM

I'm awestruck ... your work is really an inspiration to me and prolly many others. Besides the 3d-part to it ... a nice little idea for my next RGP session came into my mind.

By the way I saw some of your older work on the raydiffuse gallery and I tried to find out, who made this stuff --- now I know you just got even better.

Once more: Impressive work, and I hope you'll have an animation ready with the horse and the charac some time soon, and a making-of would be very cool just as well. And I reckon I'm not the only one who would love to get hold of your scene file :D

animalunae

04-04-2002, 01:16 AM

I just want to see more of it, I don't want to get to know your secrets, I just want to see more renders, more screenshots, more concept,... The level of the 3D progress is just based on experience. The only thing we can get out of this project is inspiration, motivation,...

Thank you M for this great piece of work.

gL_spear

04-04-2002, 01:10 PM

glad you took the advice of the others and built a horse impressive so far.

see my March entry
http://www.cgtalk.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=4352&perpage=15&pagenumber=2

leigh

04-04-2002, 09:24 PM

HOLY CRAP!!!!

Oh my god this is just SO GOOD!!!!

If I could, I'd give it 50 stars

YOU BETTER WIN THE CHALLENGE!! :)

Manny

04-05-2002, 12:29 AM

well thank you very much,and to answer your question you,re not the only girl on this forum i know of one other talented girl named lisette and she is also really good. you are also one talented modeller ,and keep up the great work.

joecg

04-05-2002, 01:33 AM

well well well where in the hell have you been hiding you f@#$%^&*ng a$$ oh my god i give up, who the hell are you.man ,man ,man ok lalala ,oh my god , ok just chill ok look at you ,thats it.thats it ,thts it.

Manny

04-05-2002, 04:18 AM

I TKAE THAT AS A COMPLIMENT, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

jose

04-05-2002, 04:29 AM

WHOA!!i've only been out a less than a week and youve built more stuff...yeah this koool!
why is there only 4???..i agree this should have 50 stars!!!
will you use him for some animation, i would really like to see him in action! pretty please :)

Manny

04-05-2002, 04:34 AM

as far as the stars it doesnt really matter to me,what matters is the compliments and critiques that i get from you guys,that what helps me, as far as the animation yes we are planning on doing a sequence from the movie blade 2.btw thanks for the compliments

Joel Hooks

04-05-2002, 04:40 AM

Sweet, you will need to post in the 3d art section when you get it animated. I am REALLY interested in seeing that deformation in action. See if you guys can animate as well as you can model!

Where's our update! not much time now!

Manny

04-05-2002, 04:49 AM

dont worry lowdown i will give a small update its just its really hard running a company and doing youre own thing at the same time.well dont worry i'll have that update for you real soon.i just have to pose him with a basic rig for the challenge.

Joel Hooks

04-05-2002, 04:54 AM

bah, who needs to eat? You have hungry fans out here! :D

JuRrAsStOiL

04-05-2002, 05:03 AM

Well, I guess, in this bunch of comments and Hoorays
you won't mention my post, but:
AMAZING WORK !
You are a**-kicking fast :thumbsup:

Since when are you using maya?
I'm far away from being that good, but I hope
to get as half as good :), I'm 16, so some hard
work coming up :D

keep it up, you got my vote :thumbsup:

Manny

04-05-2002, 05:26 AM

thats so funny i remember when i was 20 years old and saying the same thing to Grant Niesner one of the incredible artist who worked on the matrix as a renderman programmer ,and i,m goig to tell you the same thing he told me if you keep trying and work really hard at what you do by the time youre my age you should be a lot better, heck than i am i have 15 years to go and you have 7 so i think that we will achieve our goals.good luck

JuRrAsStOiL

04-05-2002, 06:01 AM

wise words to keep in mind

phade2

04-05-2002, 07:34 AM

Wow you put a lot of work into your entry....
Definately one of my favorites to win.
Anyways, can't wait to see your final render!
I agree with the others..50 stars!! :thumbsup:

animalunae

04-05-2002, 11:29 AM

You've heard it before, the man has to win, the level of 3D is soooo impressive and the concept is a) original b) stylish c) soooo cooool, I mean like, make a movie out of the project and you'll have a major succes d) to good to describe it with words...
They better put that extra star back, don't even know why did removed it!

Joel Hooks

04-05-2002, 11:34 AM

people go through and and derate the threads. It works on averages.

animalunae

04-05-2002, 11:41 AM

Looks like you're back on top

animalunae

04-05-2002, 03:25 PM

Please if you like it, rate it as best, I want to give him the stars he diserves

leigh

04-05-2002, 04:21 PM

Definitely 5 stars from me.
And my vote :D

Manny

04-06-2002, 12:20 AM

thank you all

dies-irae

04-06-2002, 01:07 AM

why can't we give the stars more than once? i'd vote-reload-vote a hundred times 5 stars!!!

by the way, manny...we're still waiting those updates...don't think you can get away without giving us those updates...we NEEED THEM!!! :scream: :scream:

JuRrAsStOiL

04-06-2002, 01:20 AM

got another little question:
Why do u have 9 stretched nurbs-spheres
beside your model? To keep the proportions?
Would be interressting to know... :)

*rates-this-thread-with-5-stars*

Manny

04-06-2002, 01:27 AM

JuRrAsStOiL its just my weird way of keeping porportions when modeling my characters,and in this case since hes a superhero,supervillian,god like character i gave him 9.all i do is once the size of the head of my character is done i just duplicate and position.

update coming right up.

dave_baer

04-06-2002, 02:07 AM

Hey guys...How do we vote? Do we just say it here and they count it? If so, MANNY has my vote for whatever the maximum amount of stars is. 5 is it? Great job Manolo! =)

btw.. Imma try to come by and see your studio this week. coo?

Manny

04-06-2002, 02:58 AM

its cool man ,just try and make it by friday cause i have a meeting on sat and we are closed that day.

Catfish

04-06-2002, 04:19 AM

Absolutely stunning. I don't think I can say much more. 5 stars.

Uzi[WNCT]

04-06-2002, 06:24 AM

I can't believe........ i must say this is the best work in this compo... really stunning...... ghgh..... do u know Fox Molder??? ;);)

My compliments, yr work is AWESOME!!!

*edit*
Of course...... 5 stars! :D

Manny

04-06-2002, 09:37 AM

sorry guys i wont be able to enter the competetion i just didnt have the time today and i dont have a server to put the image on ,so if anyone would help me and post the image for me it would be greatly apprecieted,post it under manny thank you.

l_farley13_l

04-06-2002, 10:05 AM

Ah sucks you didn't have time :( When you ge the chance it'd be great to see the man with his horse :D I uploaded the pic up to my server hopefully that will be good enough. (I think they'll do just a single picture for each, and a link like last time)

Superior Job :D

see you,

Farley13

hiko_

04-06-2002, 10:14 AM

sublime

dies-irae

04-06-2002, 03:36 PM

i think the model alone is of ao much wonderful that even if you couldn't "finish" it it's already a masterpiece...

i hope to see the animated one soon (i'm curious about your animation system...i think we all are...)
so keep us up to date anyway!!!

it's been a great honor to see someone of your level at work more or less step by step... you make us learn a lot!

i hope you'll find some time to do another challenge like this one! (and no...we wont call you computer face...:p:p)

04-06-2002, 06:34 PM

MANNY!!!!!great!no words!great, great!

Manny

04-07-2002, 06:14 AM

thank you all for your compliments hope that i didnt get to much work in to really finish the challenge well thers always next time take care.

Bolaz

04-08-2002, 03:06 AM

Very nice indeed man, love the model.. =]

Piz

04-09-2002, 02:28 AM

No words for this piece of art!!!! :eek: :eek: :eek:

Fantastic!!!!!!

Bye
Piz

:)

pabbloz

04-09-2002, 01:23 PM

Impressive!!! :eek: :eek:

Manny

04-10-2002, 03:46 AM

hey just wanted to say thanks guys for someone who did not really finish the challege you guys liked it anyway thank you very much.dont wory i wont let you down next challenge

JuRrAsStOiL

04-10-2002, 04:29 AM

you got my vote as I said :)
But you don't have to take part of the next challenge,
cause there won't be any reason for others to take part :D :D ;) :D

I think I will take part of the next but one challenge
cause I hate lighting/texturing :)

looking forward to see your results.