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kk01
12-13-2006, 09:18 PM
Hello,

I think investing in some cool sets of photoshop brushes is a really cool idea. I have searched the internet but I have not been able to come up with anything reasonable.

I tot' I could find something on the interent but all to no avail...does anyone have any idea where I can get some really cool brush sets for photoshop...

Regards,
'kk'

roguenroll
12-14-2006, 12:58 AM
dude theres probably thousands of sets in the net

http://mattepainting.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=715

http://mattepainting.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=2348

http://mattepainting.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=705

free

kk01
12-14-2006, 11:58 AM
Thank you very much for the reply...but there's something I dont understand about brushes...there are some brushes I come across and I ask myself, how does one use them?

I tot brushes should look like real life brushes and not using ibjects to represent a real brush...I guess there is some thing I am missing out on the creative part of this topic 'brushes' can you please fill me in.

For example, what do I do with a brush that looks like a greenade or a crucifix...will like to learn... :hmm:

Regards,
'kk'

roguenroll
12-14-2006, 06:20 PM
well think of them as tools, or exotic brushes. now might you ever use a handgranade, maybe not ever, but a cross specially repeated takes the hasle out of hand painting a series of straight lines, then you can distort or erase to fit a building edge or subtle detail, on a distant space ship (with lower opacity).

see here, the blue thing is some vector shape, and there are tons of these brushes, also see
the grid work above that, these could be the cross shaped item repeated and slight overlayed onto each other. (these are dynmaic brush settings, like when you might have a leaf brush and you want the leaves to be bigger and small and turned randomly from each other).

Also in this case the blue exhaust I can see is a random shapes, set to repeat and change
rotation, if you look you can see the pattern. clouds are done this way with a more cloud
shaped brush.

these are great works by Vyle (not myself, to be clear) in a mattepainting / illustration style
http://www.thegnomonworkshop.com/img/gallery/gallery_pops/dle/dle01b.jpg



this one you can see speckles and such, these are the more dot and texture style brushes.
you may brush these on or just click you mouse once and lay down that set of dots for example



http://www.thegnomonworkshop.com/img/gallery/gallery_pops/dle/dle01a.jpg


also see the engine, could be a single brush of a grill, or the dots on the glass, repeated vector design, or the rust texture, from a stucco texture. Any of the straight lines, girder work. example this artist creates large vector shapes, randonly sets them down, and see structure in them, then creates cities from the obscure shapes. final result below.

http://www.thegnomonworkshop.com/img/gallery/gallery_pops/dle/dle01e.jpg

premade shapes, eases the workflow, allows cleaner design. The most simple to have are squares and circles, that could be the start of a soldiers logo, or spaceship insignia.

Also find tech brushes like these: to add to your work
http://www.deviantart.com/deviation/8467384/

stylEmon
12-14-2006, 07:11 PM
Nicely Put!

Xdreamer79
12-14-2006, 08:46 PM
How important is the use of the "right brush" for beginners like me? I stumble always in choosing the brush for painting hills, stones, water or whatever. Are there any rules out there?

roguenroll
12-14-2006, 10:19 PM
all based on my knowledge from the masters - vyle, stoski, dylan cole, ryan church
check out all their mattepainting dvds at gnomon

you 'can' get away with very basic brushes, then add specials one to do specific jobs.

a cloud brush for example for clouds. one cool example dylan cole has is a very simple brush
imagine 4 squares in a row but spaced a little horizontally. the dynamics are set so when the brush is drawn out you dont get 4 solid spaced line it skips space. what you end up with is brush to make great building windows.

the more ideas you get the more you can add, I have one thats a tree top. Brush
it on with some dynmaics and bam instant forest, all the detail, no fuss, no muss.
fill the layer green, or use a photo of a forest on the layer with a clipping mask, then you have all the texure and color too. no painting required.

awesomely enough here it is from gnomon, amazing to actually have the screenshot.


http://www.thegnomonworkshop.com/img/screengrabs/dco02/dco02j.jpg

kk01
12-15-2006, 07:14 AM
emmm! what can rogue, I really speechless and short of words... :hmm: this was a wonderful one :thumbsup: . Yes, now I have an understanding to what brushes can do...and I think to enjoy brushes you have to have a wacom tablet...

I think having a tutorial DVD on matte painting will be a good idea say from gnomon or ballistic publishing...this should give me a better understanding to matte painting...

thank you very much for your help... :)

Regards,
'kk'

Xdreamer79
12-15-2006, 08:25 AM
Yeah dylan uses for most of his paintings a chalk brush beside the hard round one and the window brush :) Thanks for pointing that out :)

roguenroll
12-15-2006, 05:23 PM
No problem, i remember being intensly interested, and thinking how do they do that.
Its awesome that they have training, because I found out there is talent involved but there is a lot more technique. So that was good news. After dylan coles 'tropical scene dvd' I was well into applying the techniques. fun stuff.


also see the dvds from:

Dusso

Christian Lorenz Scheurer

also Goerner and Clyne have some great enviroment paintings.

kk01
12-16-2006, 11:32 AM
hello guys, I donwloaded the file from the internet and before I downloaded I tot' they were brushses. But I later realsied they were not...or are they... :wip:

here is the link: http://psychobob.xepher.net/screentonez/objectspack.jpg

can someone please tell me if this file are brushes or do I make brushes out of them :hmm: ...if I am to make brushes from them, can someone please tell how to make brushes...

Regards,
'kk'

roguenroll
12-16-2006, 06:45 PM
looks like you downloaded the screenshot of the brushes, they usually layout a quick picture to show off the brush set, these arent the brushes.


the brushes are a single file with an .abr extention and go into this folder Adobe\Photoshop CS\Presets\Brushes

sometimes the .abr is zipped for download.

then you can start PS, and load from the brushes pallet.


I had a look at that site, seems much of what he has zipped up are samll gif and jpeg files, with various patterns and such, you can make these brushes, but that takes and extra step, to bring in to PS, make a selection, file > define brush (if im not mistaken) and name it.

start with actual brush then move on to making your own.





a brush set is 1 file, .abr extention


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kk01
12-18-2006, 12:00 PM
Thank you very much rogue for the info...are you saying I can make brushes from these .jpeg files..? From the steps you have described, I think it's like defining patterns. But the confusion now is, how do I make them a set of different brushes.

Can you please write out some steps for me to follow....will be glad...hey! thanks...

Regards,
'kk'

roguenroll
12-18-2006, 05:28 PM
well im thinking if he had this jpeg of the brushes, he has actually made the brush set available to download in the .abr format, look for that.

But you can literally define just about any area on any graphic and make it a brush.

check these out. but the standard format is usually a solid black area (the brush shape) can be a cross, pattern or leaf whatever, with the area behind blank, clear, or your brush won't be leaf shaped, it'll have your background too, and be the shape of the defined area. square usually.

the last one shows more detail how to fade the edge or use grey scale to achieve faded brushes, nice for clouds or patterns so they dont have a hard edge.

http://www.spoono.com/photoshop/tutorials/tutorial.php?id=24

http://veerle.duoh.com/blog/comments/creating_grunge_brushes/

http://www.idigitalemotion.com/tutorials/guest/custombrush/custombrush.html

http://www.lunacore.com/photoshop/tutorials/tut021.htm

kk01
12-19-2006, 01:40 PM
thanks rogue...will view those tutorials now, so I can grasp the idea of making brushes totally...

regards,
'kk'

kk01
12-23-2006, 12:25 PM
Hey rogue...thank you so much for all your surpport. I read thru' all the tutorials carefully and now I make my own brushes which I am proud of....thanks alot.

The only, problem I am facing now is how to make my own brush sets (i.e .abr files). I have read the manual but I cant lay my hands on anything tangible. I wonder why the manual is not so explicit has one will expect. It's really brief.

Will be glad to read from you soon...

Regards,
'kk'

roguenroll
12-23-2006, 08:32 PM
I cant see where you make a set. trial and error this is what I do.

so, heres what ive done, open the basic set of PS brushes, save it as another name, then you can add your new brushes to that one, and delete the original ones.

You can also in the brush pallet, load a brush set, then load another choose 'append', then you'll have two sets together, you can delete any you don't want and save set as.....

this is the way Ive merged sets and loaded, several sets of mine, and saved out as a merged set.


notes:

-->delete brush, by right clicking on the thumbnail in the brushes pallet.


-->A NEW brush create will be added to the brush set you have open. you might want to save over with the same name to make sure new brushes are saved to that set. just to be safe.

hermine
12-27-2006, 11:04 AM
dude theres probably thousands of sets in the net

http://mattepainting.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=715

http://mattepainting.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=2348

http://mattepainting.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=705

free

marksoutherland.abr link isnt available anymore :(

kk01
12-31-2006, 05:52 PM
thank you very much Rogue, the trick worked fine and I was able to make my own brushes. Also, the articles were great Hermine...thank you very much guyz... :bounce:

Regards,
'kk'

hermine
01-01-2007, 06:17 PM
Also find tech brushes like these: to add to your work
http://www.deviantart.com/deviation/8467384/
thank you! amazing set of brush, i was looking for something aliek

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