That annoying bug where windows won't restore properly

[1armedScissor]

I've noticed this problem as well, I had assumed it had something to do with my graphics card. I would also appreciate some input in this matter

[ceql]

hmmm I've heard that this was just an XP thing?
I could be wrong tho :o

[visualboo]

Actually XP restores from crashes 500 times better than 2k. That's one of my favorite things about xp.

But.... what your talking about sounds more like a vid card thing. What kind? Driver version?

[Madpear]

No, it's not about video card. Where are working on nVidia and Wildcat, and at home i'am on an ATI. It's the same on every workstation. That's just on XP. If anyone knows a solution...

[ceql]

I'm pretty sure it's just Maya and XP...

I've seen Maya on both XP and in win2k... it never happens on win2k, afaik... and I don't think it's avoidable on xp...

Anywayz! lookie @ this from Highend3d:

http://www.highend3d.com/boards/showthreaded.php?Cat=1,2&Board=mayageneral&Number=127787&Search=true&Forum=mayageneral&Words=restore&Match=Entire%20Phrase&Searchpage=0&Limit=25&Old=allposts&Main=127787

[Madpear]

The link above doesn't seem to work at all :rolleyes:

[visualboo]

even so it's not a crash thing :p

[ceql]

opps! sorry, typo in the [url] tag :p

Link works now! ;)

[Madpear]

Yep, it works, but there's no answer there. We can just notice that where are not alone dealing with this problem. Any solution?

[ceql]

Ok!! I got an idea!!!!! :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :buttrock: :buttrock:

I don't have XP to test... but...

You know how you can Winkey+D to minimize/maximise all widnows?

Well, with 2k, even if your hypershade is minimised, and you tap WINKEY + D twice (cause a total windows minimize and maximise) it should restore Maya with the hypershade restorted too, and not minimised!!

Hooray!! Tell me if it works!

[Madpear]

No it doesn't :annoyed:

[playmesumch00ns]

Geforce and XP, but the same thing happens on the Dells and on a wildcat too. I'm pretty sure it happened in 2k too, but can't remember now. It's just a pain in the arse when you've got a whole bunch of windows open and you've got to move them all up and pull them out to size! Baad Maya!:shame:

[ceql]

doh!! Sowwies! Worth a shot anywayz ;) :surprised

[Madpear]

No it doesn't happened on Win2K. There must be something somewhere to fix this no?

[ceql]

ok, ok, I got an idea, but it's really clumsy, but it's guaranteed to work :D

you could write a program to move the mouse and resize the HyperShader instantly, and then bind a hotkey to run the program.

Then, whenever you press that button, it'll "restore" it for you (in a split second). It'd be really easy to write in Visual Basic, too! (it'd take a few minutes to write)

Except, it's clumsy in that the minimised hypershade would have to be in the same position everytime you run it....

sound good, or too clumsy?

[Madpear]

Sounds bad, it happends with all the maya windows, not just the hypershade.

[ceql]

hehe yea... and second thought, it'd be less trouble if you just closed the hypershade and had a hotkey to open it up, instead of minimizing and writing some clumsy resize app :p

hmm /me is out of ideas :shrug:

[DesignDawg]

Just for the record: I have the same problem. I've gotten kinda used to it, but I'd rather not have to get used to things like this. Thing is, they can fix it. It's easy to just say, "Well, sorry. Blame it on XP. It handles windows differently" But I bet one developer who knew his way around the source for Maya could fix it in one day. --And I'm sure they will, eventually.

Ricky

[1armedScissor]

As I posted earlier, I also have this problem. I'm running win2k my video card is a Nvidia Geforce 4Ti 4200 128MB DDR ram and the latest drivers, my processor is an Athalon XP 2200 and I have 1024 MB DDR ram. So I know that this isn't just an XP problem.

So far after screwing around the only way I've been able to fix this problem is to shut Maya down and start it again. Kind of a pain in the ass, but it works.

Once again tho, if there is anyone out there who knows of another way to fix this problem it would be greatly appreciated.

[odainton]

I've only experienced this with Hypershade so far, but this is how I've got round it.

When you have the hypershade minimised, just click on the bottom right of the window and drag it out. Although it seems to be minimised cos it's so small, in fact it's just resized to the smallest size possible.

Give it a go and see if it works for you.

Oli

[playmesumch00ns]

Yeah know this, I was saying that it's a pain in the arse having to resize the window every bloody time. I think this usually happens when I've minimized the main Maya window when its child windows are also minimized (e.g. in order to check some frames with fcheck).

I've sort of gotten round it by making a marking menu that contains all my commonly used windows, and just getting into the habit of closing them when I'm finished with them. It's clunky, but it works. Christ A|W, forget everything you're doing for Maya 5.0 and just sort this bloody thing out first. That and Maya's memory management!

[wrend]

that it shouldnt happen to others of us (on both OSs), may suggest you've got some other window managing soft running ontop somewhere? dunno.

[freshNfunky]

has this issue to tho with the discussion of restoring minimized windows? ? ?
:rolleyes:
Actually XP restores from crashes 500 times better than 2k. That's one of my favorite things about xp.

But.... what your talking about sounds more like a vid card thing. What kind? Driver version?

[freshNfunky]

i went to the alias homepage and there was nothing of it's kind discussing this resize problem!
:sad:

i also tried to discuss this problem in other forums but didn't got any kind of useful answer, solution or whatewer to fix this restore problem.

seems that everybody is stumped and nobody really knows anybody who is in control of this serious penetrating and annoying problem which is very present in the workflow.

i am shure that the most of the maya users here in this forum and elsewere on this world are not loading there hypergraphs and outliners in there pane views but leave them in there subwindows.

so i am surprised that in order so few people complain about it and further nobody knows how to fix it.....
:shrug:

i would really apprechiate if anymody knows a solution that really works or found anything new bug reports i have overlooked in the alias homepage that are discussing this problem.

i would be really glad if those people can help :cry:

[freshNfunky]

it doesnt on win 2k

ONLY on win xp :buttrock:

[freshNfunky]

windows sometimes restore the same size they were at last sized

sometimes i DO NOT like to close my subwindows....

so there must be a solution ... and it must be found either on the alias homepage or on the windows homepage (service pack 2)

i just installed the latest updates hope it will change something when i'll restart my computer

but i don't have much hope. the interesting thing is.

there is NOTHING reported on the alias homepage concerning that problem. and it's known since XP exists and the terrifying thing is. maya 6 still does the same like the older versions! ! ! ! ! ... and if nobody at alias ever new about it....

very strange!

[annaleah]

I have the most used windows(hypergraph and such)hotkeyed.
Hotkey opens the window when minimized also.
But I dont have this problem with XP so I often use the buttons on the window.
I think it has something to do with Preferences.....I have minto not remeber the window size and that may help.
Try both of these options.

[Pshu]

I think i have a solution for this problem guys - u have to start maya in Win2K compatibility mode. Go to the maya`s bin folder, where the maya.exe i situated, right click on the maya.exe -> Properties -> Compatibility -> Run this program in Win2K Comp. Mode... That should do the trick... :))). Now the annoying bug of white blank screens, and the window restore problem should have disapeared.... :)))

[freshNfunky]

I think i have a solution for this problem guys - u have to start maya in Win2K compatibility mode. Go to the maya`s bin folder, where the maya.exe i situated, right click on the maya.exe -> Properties -> Compatibility -> Run this program in Win2K Comp. Mode... That should do the trick... :))). Now the annoying bug of white blank screens, and the window restore problem should have disapeared.... :)))
:love: THANK YOU! ! ! ! :love:

it worked!:bounce: :bounce: :bounce:

my godfather of maya debugging!

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