View Full Version : AMD FINALLY releases the 3000+
Array 02-10-2003, 06:56 PM http://www.amd.com/us-en/Processors/SellAMDProducts/0,,30_177_5620_543~66645,00.html
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janhath
02-10-2003, 10:04 PM
Thanks fopr the link.Cool news.:beer:
KiboOst
02-11-2003, 07:24 AM
Damn, 640K of cache !!! This sounds damned good for us guys !!! intel sux !! :bounce:
kib
bentllama
02-11-2003, 08:00 AM
XP...blah.
Gimme some MP's at that speed and I will smile for a week. Really. A week.
:D
playmesumch00ns
02-11-2003, 01:30 PM
Dual MPs at that speed? drool... just a shame you have to factor in the cost of an industrial-strength refrigeration unti to keep the damn thinigs cool. Oh yeah and some ear muffs to stop the noise of the fans deafening you!:)
janhath
02-11-2003, 08:42 PM
I hear the Bartons/clawhammers whatever they call them are coming in April? I hope so. The new Bartons will be running cooler because of the smaller sized chips,so less noise I have been told.
Plus they will have Dual MP's at 3.2,oh the speed with high memory,no more compromises.Sweet.:beer:
Bradf0rd010
02-11-2003, 09:44 PM
Bartons are coming out now. That's the core the XP 3000+ is based on. The core is actually larger because of the increased cache.
Opteron, AMD's new x86-64 server chip will be coming out in April. Unless you have access to some serious dollar:dollar you wont be seeing any of these. :surprised
In the desktop market, AMD will be stretching the Barton out until Sept when they release the Athlon 64, the x86-64 CPU for the desktop.
Hope that clears that up :D
RockinAkin
02-12-2003, 01:02 AM
Originally posted by bentllama
XP...blah.
Gimme some MP's at that speed and I will smile for a week. Really. A week.
The day those come out... it's time to upgrade!
-DivideByZero-
Hookflash
02-12-2003, 01:26 AM
Bah, you'd be better off sticking with the 3.06ghz p4 (HyperThreading!). Athlons were never designed to hit these clockspeeds.
Maven
02-12-2003, 12:36 PM
:twisted: ANTI-INTEL :twisted:
nimajneb
02-12-2003, 04:19 PM
Is there anyword on an 8X AGP Chipset for MPs? I've read that it isn't going to happen.
Bradf0rd010
02-12-2003, 05:19 PM
What's the point of 8x AGP, though? It's a marketing gimmick. I would like to see a new AMD SMP chipset, though. Preferably with DC DDR support.
And HT is an over-hyped piece of tech as well.
Thalaxis
02-12-2003, 05:47 PM
Originally posted by Bradf0rd010
And HT is an over-hyped piece of tech as well.
Actually, I think HT is one of the Hammer's biggest selling points.
Bradf0rd010
02-12-2003, 05:58 PM
Originally posted by Thalaxis
Actually, I think HT is one of the Hammer's biggest selling points.
If that turns out to be true, I rest my case ;)
ambient-whisper
02-12-2003, 06:44 PM
Originally posted by Bradf0rd010
And HT is an over-hyped piece of tech as well.
some tests show otherwise. ( the links were posted here recently, either in the news/ or tech section )
plus. isnt p4 going to have a nice 800mhz bus soon :) mmm.
Bradf0rd010
02-12-2003, 07:06 PM
Oh yea, don't get me wrong. It does make a difference in certain situations. But nowhere near the quantum leap Intel would have us believe.
I'm very keen to see what an 800MHz FSB does for the P4.
Springdale-PE : 800Mhz Pentium 4, Single/Dual Channel DDR266/333/400 up to 4GB, AGP 8X, GbE, ICH5, 8 USB 2.0 ports, S-ATA 150
Springdale-G : 800Mhz Pentium 4, Single/Dual Channel DDR266/333/400 up to 4GB, AGP 8X, GbE, ICH5, 8 USB 2.0 ports, Integrated Graphics, S-ATA 150
Canterwood : 800Mhz Pentium 4, Single/Dual Channel DDR266/333/400 up to 4GB, ECC Memory Supported, Turbo Mode, AGP 8X, GbE, ICH5, 8 USB 2.0 ports, Integrated Graphics, S-ATA 150
GbE = Gigabit Ethernet and will be run through the Communications Streaming Architecture (CSA) bus. An interface dedicated to the likes of high speed networking to avoid saturating the PCI bus.
Springdale will be upon us soon and Canterwood a little later in the year.
Thalaxis
02-12-2003, 08:32 PM
Originally posted by Bradf0rd010
Oh yea, don't get me wrong. It does make a difference in certain situations. But nowhere near the quantum leap Intel would have us believe.
Intel isn't exactly a fan of HyperTransport, either. It's an AMD thing; AMD developed the initial specs, and got a lot of industry support -- something Intel doesn't have for their next-generation I/O protocol (InfiniBand). Even the PCI SIG is pushing for PCI-X rather than InfiniBand.
I'm very keen to see what an 800MHz FSB does for the P4.
Springdale will be upon us soon and Canterwood a little later in the year.
Both should be pretty impressive, but Canterwood is going to be the biggest problem for AMD to overcome, since it will support dual DDR channels running at 200 MHz + some enhancements over Springdale-PE.
Also, the new SouthBridges that Intel is bringing to market will be sweet -- they'll have one-upped nForce2 in everything except for Dolby Digital Encoding, so the nForce2 and its K8-oriented successor will probably still be the best gaming platform out there for those who have home theater systems to go with them.
But I bet Canterwood + 800 MHz FSB Prescott will be the performance champion of the desktop for 2003.
Gentle Fury
02-13-2003, 06:38 AM
they really need to start leveling out soon..........they keep increasing bandwidth, but there is nothing to utilize it properly......so we are left with dropping watermelons down a pipeline the size of a swiming pool.....the watermelons seemed huge till you saw the pipe!!!
Gregwid
02-13-2003, 08:45 AM
Renderfarm is the answer.Geta couple Dual 2 gigers,and a couple mid 1.5 's or so and you got all you need.:thumbsup: :beer:
ambient-whisper
02-13-2003, 01:36 PM
Originally posted by Gentle Fury
they really need to start leveling out soon..........they keep increasing bandwidth, but there is nothing to utilize it properly......so we are left with dropping watermelons down a pipeline the size of a swiming pool.....the watermelons seemed huge till you saw the pipe!!!
huh? for the longest time the pipe is what the problem was... we had all this speed...but the watermellons never fit through it properly..so they always clogged up.. and windows would chug..
now the bandwidth is large..and your melons can move through it nicely. its definitely a nice thing to have for the future.
see.. not sure about you, but i dont upgrade my pc every month. and if theres a chance that developers will start utilizing all of this properly in the future then great!.
warmonger
02-13-2003, 03:04 PM
Who says Hyper-threading doesn't matter? (http://www.anandtech.com/cpu/showdoc.html?i=1783&p=21)
I think that Intel is doing just fine right now, especially for CG apps with SSE optimizations. Plus the 3.2ghz should be out pretty soon. The Barton is a pretty big disappointment right now.
Thalaxis
02-13-2003, 04:06 PM
Originally posted by Gentle Fury
they really need to start leveling out soon..........they keep increasing bandwidth, but there is nothing to utilize it properly......so we are left with dropping watermelons down a pipeline the size of a swiming pool.....the watermelons seemed huge till you saw the pipe!!!
Actually, you got it entirely backwards. The processors (especially the Athlon) are becoming increasingly starved for system bandwidth, not the other way around.
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