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Dupikus
11-11-2006, 11:29 PM
Hello all,

Here is my latest wip, he's the dark jedi from the Phantom menace.
I was really peeved, how G. Lucas could kill such a great character!?
So i decided to bring him to live :D
I'm using max, z-brush and photoshop,
5500 tris, maps(diffuse, normal and spec): one 512x512 (head) and one 1024x1024 (the rest)
I've just stared with his normal map so it have a lot of bugs

http://img463.imageshack.us/img463/315/darthmaulrd9.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img242.imageshack.us/img242/9311/wirerh7.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

C&C are welcome

Bart.

ChrisMann
11-12-2006, 02:44 AM
Hi.

I like the proportions. You could optimize some polygons in the shirt sleeves. Can't comment on the face too much, too small a render.

The feet are oddly shaped, at least from the front view, and I would look at giving the hands more volume and shape.

If you are presenting a dark gray character like this one, try using a more contrasting background to highlight the characters silhouette and details.

You also need more work in your diffuse, such as leather and cloth detail.

Keep going, it will be a good model.

C.

Psyk0
11-12-2006, 05:28 AM
I have to agree, it's still great work tho.

Darth Maul wears Frank Thomas black leather motorcycle boots in the movie, so id work on those a lot more:

http://www.starwars-universe.com/images/costumes/tuto_costume/ep1_darth_maul/frank_thomas_maul_boot.jpg
http://www.partsofsw.com/Ep_1/images/fttitan1.jpghttp://www.partsofsw.com/Ep_1/images/fttitan2.jpg


Also if you want to push the head's realism further, check out this bust:
http://www.sideshowtoy.com/cgi-bin/category.cgi?category=search&item=2909FLEX&type=store

and these...
http://www.mamegyorai.co.jp/images/full/54489-4.jpg

http://www.mamegyorai.co.jp/images/full/54489-2.jpg

ill_logic
11-12-2006, 11:56 AM
I was really peeved, how G. Lucas could kill such a great character!?


i think the better question is how could Lucas kill off such a great franchise? :D

(EDIT -- Btw, darth maul's swell & all, but i meant the prequels in general, just to clarify. i mean they look great & all but... yeah)

i was just going to mention that the wrinkles on the clothes, while he's wearing everything loose, look a little too blobby & puffy, like someone's pumping air into his costume a bit, you know? mostly in the upper body. i mean if it's going to be loose, it's not going to be loose all over, it's going to hang & be pulled down by gravity.

other than that, i'm digging it. a closer shot of the face would help if you can get to it!

-J

psychojohno
11-12-2006, 03:08 PM
Darth mual one of the coolest star wars characters ever imo nice choice and he looks great! Well the head does but my monitor is sooo crappy i cant see the body because it wont go any brighter :sad: I need a new one.

DethSavage
11-12-2006, 04:07 PM
hi, 4 me the character looks really great :) Make some psycho details mate ;)

Dupikus
11-12-2006, 04:43 PM
http://img347.imageshack.us/img347/117/headsbw3.jpg (http://imageshack.us)


The feet are oddly shaped, at least from the front view, and I would look at giving the hands more

volume and shape.
yeah, feet and hands... i hate them :D they'are a huge problem for me but I'll try fix it

Keep going, it will be a good model.
Thx :)

Psyk0 - Thx man, you have no idea how much you helped me :)

i think the better question is how could Lucas kill off such a great franchise?
you're right :D

i was just going to mention that the wrinkles on the clothes, while he's wearing everything loose, look a little too

blobby & puffy, like someone's pumping air into his costume a bit, you know? mostly in the upper body. i mean if it's going to be

loose, it's not going to be loose all over, it's going to hang & be pulled down by gravity.
thx i think i understand it now :)

Psychojohno - i know what you feel - i can't go any darker :D

http://img396.imageshack.us/img396/9177/frwerwews5.th.jpg (http://img396.imageshack.us/my.php?image=frwerwews5.jpg)

Confracto
11-12-2006, 08:38 PM
nice work.
I think the eyelids could use some work, it barely looks like they're there.

also, from what I've heard, it's that George Lucas could finally do what HE wanted in these last 3 movies, and all the people who knew what was cool couldn't stop him...

ChrisMann
11-13-2006, 12:28 AM
The overall proportions of the head are excellent. The ears look great.

The neck is the main issue, apart from what has already been mentioned about the eyes.
Take a look at some pics of body builders necks from various angles. You will notice how the Sternocleidomastoideus, Semispinalis capitis, Splenius capitis and Trapezius flow into the base of the skull forming a distinct shape. Just goggle some pics of the muscles I mentioned and compare those to the bodybuilding pics. Or I'm sure that the anatomy sub-forums will have some tips for ya too.

C.

Dupikus
11-17-2006, 08:04 PM
Hi!
i corrected some parts of the model anyway i still have a lot of things to do :/
http://img294.imageshack.us/img294/340/maulux9.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

nice work.
I think the eyelids could use some work, it barely looks like they're there.
yes i know, there is only the tatoo now i will paint the details later

from what I've heard, it's that George Lucas could finally do what HE wanted in these last 3 movies, and all the people who knew what was cool couldn't stop him...
exactly, just like Kojima killed Ninja in MGS

Confracto and EnginesOfCreation - Thx!

bluemess
11-19-2006, 02:38 AM
looking very cool dude, i like. ill keep comin back to check the progress. wouldnt mind seeing the end product

Por@szek
11-20-2006, 07:00 AM
Where the update is ? Show the one with normals ;)
And lad ... its really bad U change Your nick, if I didn;t knew that U are making a Maul I never knew that U is U :P

Dupikus
11-21-2006, 03:42 PM
small update:
http://img470.imageshack.us/img470/8019/darthytb1.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
I think it's almost finished(only few corrections left)
the lightsaber's light is "painted" in photoshop just like the red... reflections (?)


Bluemess - thx

Where the update is ?
It's here my master :D
Show the one with normals ;)
as you wish my master :D
And lad ... its really bad U change Your nick, if I didn;t knew that U are making a Maul I never knew that U is U :P
heh it's a part of the international cabal against Winnie-the-Pooh who's connected with the space invader's lord :D:D (joke)


Cheers!

13thDeV
11-23-2006, 02:32 PM
The last one looks really good, maybe the band around his waist could need some more attention, but that's the only thing that I don't like about it.

Dupikus
11-24-2006, 04:42 AM
I think it's finished.
Thanks for the comments!
http://img300.imageshack.us/img300/9972/darthyhd9.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

Maul+lightsabre - 5930 tris,
1x 4x256(belt), 2x 256x256(gloves and boots), 4x 512x512, (head, lightsabre, robe and the rest)

renders - http://img329.imageshack.us/img329/254/rendersmg8.jpg
diffuse - http://img78.imageshack.us/img78/5623/diffusegh4.jpg
normal map - http://img78.imageshack.us/img78/9051/normalsfp2.jpg

Por@szek
11-24-2006, 08:00 AM
I like it.
U made nice work in here.
I wish U more characters like this one ;)
Take care.

psychojohno
11-24-2006, 08:43 AM
I think it looks great, better than the characters in any star wars game I have seen! Just one little suggestion the dangling bits on his robe look a little low poly but you could make them seem higher poly with an alpha map, I donít think it will make a huge difference but hey :thumbsup:

Psyk0
11-24-2006, 06:11 PM
Well it came out great, the shape of the boot is a bit strange, easy fix tho, just get a sole reference and fit it around.

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