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Womball
11-02-2006, 06:50 PM
I have been researching component for making a decent, somewhat powerful (a lot compared to my old rig) quite and cool work and gaming rig. I want to be able to render with XSI mental ray and use zbrush. Since the intel duo 2 core is 64 bit, I was wondering if I should try running it on windows Xp 64 bit (or stick to the basic 32 bit), or try linux for renders? If I use linux I will have to dualboot, which I'm willing to do, but I haven't used linux since slackware 8.0 several years ago. Not sure what to look for in a linux distro. Any suggestions would be appreciated. I will post my current system rig specs in a moment.

I will be rendering a 5-7 minute animation at at least 720p maybe even 1080p.

Btw I do need wifi do to the room layout.

Womball
11-02-2006, 06:51 PM
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Womball
11-02-2006, 10:13 PM
I'm trying to keep the cost under $1600.

Sbowling
11-03-2006, 05:54 AM
I would recomend one of these cases: http://www.sundialmicro.com/silverstone_computer_case_ssttj06sw_1704_161.html

I currently have 3 of them (2 silver and one black) and will be buying more for any future computer builds. I'm replacing a lian li case with nearly identical internal layout to the one you have on your list because the cooling is horrible and it's a pain to get to the top 5.25 drive bay. The sivlerstone mounts the motherboard upside down on the left side of the case so that the CPU is directly in line with the large front and rear fans and keep things very cool. I've been able to overclock my 2.4 Opteron to 2.65 with no need for aditional cooling. The hard drives mount under the power supply (also a silverston) which sucks the heat straight out of the computer without aditional fans needed. One of my computers (the oerclocked opti) currently has 5 hard drives (2 in removable front bays and 3 in the back) and I have not had any drive issues at all. I don't bother with the plastic windtunnel thing. The silverstone also has room behind the motherboard mounting area to hide the cables and helps keep the interior of the case clean and neat looking. I'm also using a silverston NT02 cpu fan/heatsink on one computer (it's a monster) and the smaller NT05 in another.

I would also recomend a Silverstone powersupply (or any other qulity brand) over what you have listed. I can't find a single review of this drive and it seems to be a relatively unknown brand. Your powersupply is probably THE most important part of your computer and if it has problems it can show up as Ram, Hard drive and even Motherboard or CPU problems in tests.

So far I have not been disapointed by anything I've bought from silverstone. Their products are very well designed and built and look great. I highly recomend them.

They also have the case in black.
http://www.sundialmicro.com/silverstone_computer_case_ssttj06bw_1704_99.html

Womball
11-03-2006, 07:21 AM
Do they have a smaller case size though? That looks huge. I have read really good reviews about the lian li I selected in regards to cooling.

Sbowling
11-03-2006, 09:40 AM
The silverstone is a bit tall, but it's actually shallower than most cases I found which is part of the reason I bought the first one. I have one on and one under my desk at home and it fits fine with plenty of room above it for removable drives, etc. and since it's shallow, it doesn't hang off the edge of the desk and there's still plenty of room for the cables behind it. If you are concerned if it will fit grab a tape measure, the measurements off the site are: 205 mm (W) x 566 mm (H) x 474 mm (D).

As for the Lian Li, the side fan probably helps. My case didn't have a side fan and the air gets heated as it is blown over the drives before it even gets to the CPU. I'm not trying to talk you out of the Lian-Li if you really like it, I just thought I should mention the silverstone Temjin 6 case because I absolutely love it.

I would definitely look into a different Power supply though. Make sure it has some good reviews by people who know what they are doing.

Womball
11-04-2006, 03:02 AM
OS question. Is XP 64 worth it and should I use the 64 bit XSI? If I can cut down on render a lot it would be great! Also I'd be willing to dual boot for linux if that runs even better for rendering.

JDex
11-04-2006, 04:02 AM
There are very few reasons for you to go with XP64 since you are only spec'ing 2Gb of RAM.

Womball
11-04-2006, 04:47 AM
Even if down the road I decide to add 2 more gigs? Or if prices are really nice 4 more gigs. :-)

Sbowling
11-05-2006, 01:04 PM
OS question. Is XP 64 worth it and should I use the 64 bit XSI? If I can cut down on render a lot it would be great! Also I'd be willing to dual boot for linux if that runs even better for rendering.

I have a dual boot setup with windows XP and XP64. I can't remember the last time I actually booted into XP64. There may be a time when it comes in real handy, but currently I've found not really need for it even with some pretty hefty scenes. Once everything plays as nicely with 64 as it does with 32 I will go 64 on all my machines, but there isn't really a need for it at this time.

Womball
11-05-2006, 04:35 PM
So xp professional should be fine? Is it worth dualbooting into linux for animation renders? And if so what distros work nicely? Ubuuntu, Suse, redhat?

JDex
11-05-2006, 06:31 PM
I'd say stick with XPpro for right now... when the next release of XSI comes out, they should have new - more up-to-date - linux distros supported. 5.11 does not work on Ubuntu, and I'm quite sure that all of the distros that it is working well on are a bit out-dated.

Womball
11-05-2006, 08:07 PM
Would it benefit softimage a lot if the program is located on a 10k rpm hd? Or is the difference barely noticeable.

Waz
11-05-2006, 08:16 PM
Would it benefit softimage a lot if the program is located on a 10k rpm hd? Or is the difference barely noticeable.

Only the time it takes to load up XSI, and if your playing back animation that is cached to the hard drive. For most modeling and animation you won't notice a differnace. A faster video card then the one you had specced would be a wiser use of money.

Womball
11-05-2006, 08:43 PM
What card would you recommend than?

Waz
11-05-2006, 10:39 PM
It is kind of a bad time to be looking at video cards with DirectX 10 just around the corner and Nvidia's new 8800 GTX. The 8800 almost doubles the performance out of any card out right now. But out of cards you can buy today, not 2-3 weeks down the road I would say get a 7900GT OC, or if you can afford a bit more a 7950GT OC with 512mb of ram on board, the extra ram will help if you have a lot of textures loaded up in your scene.

Womball
11-06-2006, 12:43 AM
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16814125038

I got that.

The 8800 seems looks like a powerhog and not sure if its totally necessary. Probably will carry a premium at launch as well.

mlmiller1983
11-30-2006, 02:55 AM
I settled for a EVGA Nvidia GeForce 7900 GTO which should be good for a while. Its going into a Dual Intel Xeon 5160 workstation. I plan upgrade the card later down the line to a Direct X 10 card.

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