The Vampire Flower, Teodoru Badiu (3D)

[Luks]

Wonderful work man!

Excelent! Congratz!

[OSBOURNE]

5 stars ....awesome work

[MissouriMedic]

I think it's nearly perfect.... except for the drops of blood coming from the chest and the right wing, which IMHO should be a tad bit darker (and perhaps a fraction smaller?).

Also assuming that the viewer is inside a house looking out a window, I would consider changing the lighting a bit, since the shadow is pointing toward the outside. It's possible that there is a strong light on the interior-side, but it's unlikely that it would overpower the sunlight from outside, causing the shadow to go toward the exterior. If this isn't supposed to be a view from inside a house, looking out a window, then disregard, as it's entirely possible that the sun is behind the viewer.

I think it's otherwise perfect though! Very nice concept. I also like the choice of backgrounds. It envokes sort of a mellow, yet lonely feeling. Given the aged look of the pot and wood frame, it also makes one wonder just how long this plant has survived. It makes me wonder whether the house's owner is long-since died, and the house sits empty and deteriorating... yet, like a vampire, the plant lives on, surviving while the world around it ages and withers. Maybe I'm reading too much into it, but it provokes thought, which is good.
I love the feathers on the sill. Nice touch!

[moviejunkie101]

fantastic!:scream:

[rfvlima]

GREAT!!

The bird looks like real!!

congratulations.!

[shemosus]

excellent art work !

[theodoru]

Thank you guys! Thanks for the tips Missouri! You are right with the second thought, I didn't wanted to have it on a window and a look from a room (it had need some more work for window frames, glas, drapes etc.) but for a kind of open pavillion in a garden where i could use the lights as i need in order to avoid strong shadows and low illuminated areas. As for the background i had at the begining the tendence to add some trees and some plants but i have give it up and let it like it is now in order to concetrate the view on the bird and to show better how helpless the bird must be.

[PanfriedPixels]

Good texture work...

[Qais]

what a gr8 idea and mysterious render

[edux]

Excellent concept an render as always. 5 stars!!

[Danmoreno]

That´s awesome! Great work!

[turner]

Excellent stuff.

[AndyH]

Is that bird a photograph?


I think it looks way too posed and stiff considering the circumstances - perhaps it would be struggling like when a cat attacks or something?

Nice idea though.

I love that blue bird on the easter pic in your portfolio

[francescaluce]

terrible thing this one. blah...






ciao
francesca

[F481O]

WOW! :eek:

no more words..

congratz....

[dunsoner]

good work...though it's pretty freaky that the bird to me kinda representing Jesus by the way hes posing. But if that was your intentions then you grapsed the image good. I like it a little freaky to me but never the less good work!:twisted:

[rdias1972]

very except designer...the idea very good..cong...5 stars....

[pixelranger]

nyeah... Not THAT great a plant. And neither is that window post. And considering that the background and bird is photo(shop) I wouldn't spend that many stars on it.
The idea isn't THAT original as well.
Nice image, but IMHO it's not front page stuff. Sorry for the harsh critique, but when an image gets put up there with the outstanding stuff one's got to preserve their right to being picky. And this piece for me isn't even close to the "picky-level".

I know it's not your fault. All of us make things not worthy of being put on the front page. On a daily basis even. And we post it still. In this case my critique target the moderator who plugged it.

As for constructive critisism:

Use that bird photo as a referance image for modelling a bird. The photo itself i excellent for that purpose. And from seeing your other stuff I know you do know how to make nice birds.
Uv it and paint the seams. Pose the bird i a more interesting pose (asymmetrical and "affected" by the plant eating/tormenting it. Sorry but the Jesus-resemblance is a very cheap part of the concept. I looks like some teenager put the bird up there and thought to himself "hey, it looks like Jesus. coool..heh heh... I'll emphasize that by letting the plant impale his heart". Sorry but you have to use more symbolic links to the Jesus thing if you're trying to convey a story, situation, or even idea like that. I'm not a Christian myself (no disrespect to you who are), so this is not a case of "hey, I don't like anyone who's stomping on my beliefs"-thing.
Anyway, after you've posed the bird a little more interestingly, try to find a camera angle that even more brings out the emotions you want to put into this image, and match it with the lighting. NOW you have an interesting piece. The composition isn't bad in this one (and you generally make interesting compositions) but it could be better (more "in action"). Or if the bird hangs allready dead the composition is fine. Maybe you want to roughen up the edges of that window too.


Again, sorry if I come across as an asshole, but I have the flu. And I'm tired. - And I'm an asshole. :)

Keep it up!

[PhuongDPh]

nice idea !
poor bird :cry:
Thanks

[OneSharpMarble]

The bird looks like real!!


It is real he took a picture!

Don't you people even read the descriptions or do you just come in say "Wo0wzers! AmAzing Worrk" and leave?

I agree with pixel ranger I have seen waay better never make it front page, even I can spot several problems with this.

[Anthonie]

haha nice. I know there are insect eating plants:P but never heard of birdeating(killing) plants ^_^. looks nice though.In overal I'd give you 3 stars. Textures are pretty good and lighting is not bad either. Although it's a bit simplistic.

cheers

[michael-olszak]

Great work on texturing man. very nice!! i love the idea dude

[animalunae]

Honestly I don't see why it should get even 1 star, let alone make the front page. This isn't even 3D. 4 Over-textured primitives, badly comped on an ugly background mixed with a picture? Lately there's been plugs of this terrible work so often that I don't even feel like checking CgTalk anymore, let alone extending my subscription to CGS... Anyway, it's a slap in the face to the people who didnt make it to the front page that did way better work then this. There used to be a high standard for front page plugs on CgTalk... those were the days.

[turner]

There are some pretty scathing remarks here which I feel are unnecessary.
"Honestly I don't see why it should get even 1 star" WHAT!

When replying to a post there are 4 things written .....

Be courteous and polite. Show respect to the opinions and feelings of others. Use of the forums is a privilege, not a right.
Engage your brain before your mouth. You are responsible for your own words and any harm they may cause.
Don't dilute the forums with irrelevant and unnecessary fluff. CGTalk is a professional, moderated forum. It's a place to talk about all things related to computer graphics.
Critiques and responses to images are to be constructive and related to improving the quality of the artwork
Read these before posting any more unnecessary replies......

turner

[theodoru]

Ohh it seams that i caused a lot of controversy with my image. Sorry for that guys but It was not my intention. About the image I don't know why so many of you try to find the reality in it, where there is no reality. It is simple a surreal idea that has nothing with the reality to do, all i want to reach is the perfect mood and composition to awake emotions. Because i didn't want to make some perfect windows models or to model and texture the bird when i can reach the same goal using it just as texture.
About the Jesus pose, it is just coincidence, this image has no hidden links to that symbol.
Sorry again guys.

[ratatat]

beautiful.. i love it. try to view with an open mind and this piece is amazing. the conscious mind is an evil thing, creating ideals from social stigmas that have no place in art.
i applaud you and your creative expression. thank you for sharing and i know i look forward to your future works.

cheers.

[Bao2]

The plant looks very CG but the bird is a-we-so-me. Impressive bird.

[Sevostyanov]

Dramatic picture

[Anthonie]

lol some people are hard:) but I can really understand. for some it's indeed a slap in the face

because you mostly used primitives and the birdy (wich is cool like I said before)

But hey! who decides wich image gets on the frontpage?? anyone knows?

[Neil]

About the Jesus pose, it is just coincidence, this image has no hidden links to that symbol. Sorry again guys.

Well it's hard to see a picture of a crucifixion and not compare it to jesus. The pose didn't make me initially think jesus, since that's how birds wings normally flap. But then I noticed that you intentionally impaled it through both "hands" and heart. I'm thinking you did that because the photo of the bird was posed like that and you needed a reason to justify it's rigid pose. It's an interesting image and cheeky, which is cool. But I also agree that most people look at it, think it's 3d (since it's posted in 3d section) and comment and leave. They didn't notice you said you didn't model the bird, which to me is the only really impressive part of the image.

If you posted a wireframe it might help with this confusion.

[theodoru]

Here is a wire render, but I wonder what could that change. I already mentioned that the bird is just a material with alpha channel added to a plane.

http://www.apocryph.net/downloads/birdvampirewire.jpg

[Jesterspawn]

Don't take the critiques too harshly. There is not always a direct correlation between the technical difficulty of creating something and the end result as a piece of art. Regardless of the simplicity of some of your elements, I think the end result is compelling.

I think you've done a fine job of creating something surreal. The desaturated sky and the rigid crucifix-like pose of the bird definitely add to the unsettling feel. It's as if a loud struggle happened only seconds earlier, but now we're left with an eerie stillness.

Really, the only part I have a problem with are the blood spatters. In particular, the large round spot looks as if it was a drop of blood which hit the post from straight on and dried very quickly. I think the blood would have more effect if it looked like it was flung there from the direction of the plant, which would cause it to streak a bit. Also, I think it would tend to run down the post (at least a little bit) before it dries.

[neon22]

Whooooo...cool concept!

[atilla]

great work dude.nice idea:thumbsup:

[petteer]

The idea is good and original. Sorry to say that but everything else is below average - modeling, lights, textures.

[Bao2]

Well, it is far more easy do the bird that way, I was thinking it was 3D not a plane. Where you find a picture of a bird in that position??? I hope you don't death a bird just to take then a photo a make 3D!!!

[ThirdEye]

terrible thing this one. blah...

I had enough of your harsh posts that help nobody. Keep them for you and use the time you spend on them trying to learn english properly instead of fireing your cannon on this forum at will with your vitriolic nonsense. If you have some spare minutes try to read the posting guidelines as well. Thanks.

[ThirdEye]

Honestly I don't see why it should get even 1 star, let alone make the front page. This isn't even 3D. 4 Over-textured primitives, badly comped on an ugly background mixed with a picture? Lately there's been plugs of this terrible work so often that I don't even feel like checking CgTalk anymore, let alone extending my subscription to CGS... Anyway, it's a slap in the face to the people who didnt make it to the front page that did way better work then this. There used to be a high standard for front page plugs on CgTalk... those were the days.

I liked the idea and i plugged the image, the final result is strong and appealing imho. Oddly enough i'm a forum leader and i have plugging abilities in this forum, i've been moderating cgtalk for years and i never changed my own "rules" for image plugging. You don't like the image? Perfectly fine, but then give the man some honest, even blunt crits instead of crying out loud for... God knows what.
You don't feel like checking cgtalk anymore? Feel free not to, it's your own choice. You don't feel like extending your CGS subscription, what can i say, your choice once again, but i'm not sure people reading this thread care about it.

[petteer]

The idea is great but:
Rating 2.96. Poor modeling. Novice texturing. Basic light setup.

Isn't it the right time to recognize that this so-called frontpage stuff is a step aside?

[ThirdEye]

The idea is great but:
Rating 2.96. Poor modeling. Novice texturing. Basic light setup.

Isn't it the right time to recognize that this so-called frontpage stuff is a step aside?

The front page ain't an award nor a prize, it's just a way to display the most interesting images of the day that you can find in the showcase gallery forum. The showcase gallery forum is meant to be a place where people can give comments and drop some crits to people who post their images. You say things like "poor modeling", "novice texturing", "basic light setup", yet you haven't posted a single constructive crit on how to improve those aspects of the picture. In other words your post isn't worth much in this thread and in this forum.

[petteer]

Well, ok. So, apocryph, grab your idea and I would suggest again start over new project. Or you could play with lights to give the scene sens of depth and drama - stronger shadows, darker areas... The wall edges are too sharp and perfect comparing to grungy look...
Those bloody drips & splatter look more like inkspots, considering the distance between bird and wall - try to "splat" and maybe squeeze them more. And the size of the feathers doesn't fit the size of bird wings. Or are they from another dead animal?
You know, this is more like 2D stuff - maybe giving the whole image more artistic look would raise its level?

[theodoru]

Thank you again guys for the comments and critics.
Petteer thank you for your suggestion to, unfortunately they are not a help for this particular image. What you are looking for in this image is the close to reality technical 3D perfection.
Well it was never my aim to do that. I didn't want to have stronger shadows or darken areas
and other edges, all I wanted to create was a surreal image with a mood and a feeling that will suit it. What I care about is the result and my aim was not to show how the thigs are in real worl but how they could be. It is all about imagination and a image is just a frame from a whole movie that could unfold in your imagination. But that I cannot control. There are peopels and peoples and some have a free imagination some other have theyr imagination slaved by reality. Thats the way it is, i understand it and can live very good with it.

[loocas]

Interesting concept, but I like it! :)

Keep the good work up! :thumbsup:

http://forums.cgsociety.org/images/rating/rating_4.gif from me :applause:

[dreamonshen]

Amazing artwork, you are very talented!:thumbsup:

[staniol]

this is cool, maybe splashes on the left are to big or bright, u know what im sayin, anyway whole image its sweet and it is amazing idea :thumbsup:

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