Character/Animation/Enviroment Cheetah

[pluMmet]

Bring it on...:bounce:

[Lukashi]

lots of vertice pulling, lots more needed...:shrug:

[Lukashi]

ok a real update

[leigh]

Coming along well, Lukashi :thumbsup:

You just need to fix up the tops of the ears - because they look a little odd.
And some of the polys on the nose look a little sharp - so round those out a little more :)

[Lukashi]

thanks leigh :), actually im gonna delete the ears soon and rebuild them completly i wasnt look at my reference when i built them

[Lukashi]

Righteo last update for tonight, gotta start hw :( anyways at least 2 more days of tweaking need :shrug:

[Terminator]

nice wip so far but it's quite hard to see with such a dark surrounding maybe u can put it in a brighter bg next time :)

[Lukashi]

Thank you terminator, here is another update

[KingMob]

KITTY!

:applause:

now then...make it look mean! and eat things!

hehe It looks so friendly, i want to cuddle it.

[Lukashi]

it is friendly :), until it kills people!!!

[Lukashi]

ok another small update

[Lukashi]

ok the mesh is really dirtied up now, but i feel that ive finally got the cheetah shape down...

[KingMob]

hey lukashi, looks good man. Very chetah like (which I imagine is tricky to get a specific type of cat)

Can we see a wire?:bounce:

[Lukashi]

thank you king, as always :) here is another update, next up the back of the cheeks, nose and ears

[Lukashi]

ah now its starting to look like a cheetah (imo) wut u guys think?

edit: added defined cheek bones, i think they make it look all evil and cool!

[Lukashi]

no replies? :shrug:

[KingMob]

hey I will reply, I think it looking good, but we are ready for more! the head is nice and all, but lets see the body :wip:

People might not be responding cause the changes are to subtle, tho i think they are well made.

Keep up the good work!

[Lukashi]

thanks king, i just started the body, nose and ears still suck but i got bored

[Lukashi]

I redefine the word Work in Progess :p

[Lukashi]

alright done with the main part of the body time to define some muscles!

[KingMob]

cool man! looking forward to the paws...come on people support him! some good work here!

how are you doing the fur btw?

[Lukashi]

king the body is no where near finished :), better delete that reply :)

[Lukashi]

started to beef him up a lil bit

[Lukashi]

I have strong evidence he may be on steroids!:argh:

[Lukashi]

this is where i plan on taking the model

http://www.geocities.com/lukashi/concept.jpg

[Lukashi]

Heres another update, i put him in the clinic and they stoped his steroids :shrug:

[KingMob]

hey man, thats lookin good, I like the head and body looks good..but it looks amped up! like he's been weight lifting, cheetah's are lean ya know?

good stuff.

[kretin]

It's looking good Lukashi,

The front haunches I think are a little large, and the back legs need a fair amount of work. Also look at the paws, they look like they have a bit too much heel at the moment.

[Lukashi]

thanks for the reply guys, heres an update..tried to add fur,

The fur looks like an oil painting of fur.... so if u guys have tips id be glad to hear them :D

[smfjersey]

I might have some suggestions. What ap and version are you using? Also what fur plug are you using?

[Lukashi]

well its 3ds max, no fur plugin...they take way too long

I made 18000 little squares with scatter and applied a opacity texture and a glociness texture

[smfjersey]

WOW! I won't be much help. The only thing I would suggest would be to texture it the best you can without the fur. Then, put the fur on top. It tends to give the fur depth and gives it that shaded under-coat. I wish you all the best. It's looking great so far. I have a cheetah on my pallet myself. I start him next month I think.

[Lukashi]

I decided ill just texture it and add fur at key areas instead of on the whole body...

[Lukashi]

started texturing :) god bless you mr. texporter

[ostov]

hey, that is not a fat little tiger ;)
Really good man!! Will u animate it??


ostov

[Remi]

Looks good lukashi...the texturing has a great start.....:thumbsup:

[Lukashi]

Thank you Ostov and Remi, Ostov, it will be animated

Heres another update, its taking a while but its getting there :)

[Lukashi]

alrighteo another one...going slowly but thats ok :)

[Edge]

Hey Lukashi,

This is looking excellent! :thumbsup:
This texture-start looks very promising and I can't really comment.

I'll keep my eye on this one...:)

Cheers.

[Emre]

Man this looks really good..(cool texturing)
but before texturing, shouldn't the head be smaller? longer neck, thinner shoulders and thinner legs, longer body?

these are all about referenge images you used but i think cheetah is a thinner animal.

[Lukashi]

Thank you edge and emre,

Emre, heres a different angle the head is a tad smaller from this view, the shoulder and leg muscles i made purposfully large because i want it to look menacing :) (its going to eat people after all :D"rar rar rar")

Anyways please leave another post if you think the head should be scaled further down...

Adios :bounce:

[KingMob]

GAH , i told you i would reply when you did the body! i lied!sorry man.

looks great, you know my opinion form our talk before...love the head, think the paws need work, and the arms are to big...

lets see some fuzzy feets!

[Emre]

:applause:
he(she) really looks strong! even lions would keep the distance with him(her).

gonna be very cool when it finishes.

which way did you do the texturing?
and will you make a mouth?

[Lukashi]

Emre: For the texturing i just took a bunch of cylinder maps wrapping things and im texturing it in photoshop...

Heres another update, its been a while (I was on a trip)

[peachstapler]

Try Texporter?

[KingMob]

hey lukashi, looks good man...paws still need work tho :beer:


Also see a little stretching on the shoulder it seems...head looks great tho!

[Lukashi]

Yo thanks king, where you been dude? Dont see you on irc:hmm:

[KingMob]

decided to not go on for a while. I got lots to do, and can't spend so much time chatting right now...I'm sure I will return tho hehe.

keep the updates coming!

[Lukashi]

Good call get to work on your Lort Entry :D

[Lukashi]

Ok another update still lots of work to be done, ill prob be done on tuesday

[Emre]

Hi!

i'm keeping an eye on your cheetah.i's growing day by day.:)
i really wonder how you'r gonna solve those little probs like paws and texture spot size-color problems.

Do you have any fur plugs? if not, send me a lo-res copy of model and i'll try adding fur on maya.see how it looks like.
:applause:


i like this forum.!:beer:

[Lukashi]

Thanks Emre :bounce: im going to make the fur with opacity maps, heres another update

wiskers!

[aspiretek]

wow, the textures on the head look great! :thumbsup:

by the way, about the fur......if you're going to have fur, why are you texturing the spots on the mesh.....do you have a method that will cause the fur be the appropriate colors in the right areas? I'd be curious to see how you will do this with opacity maps. I was looking at the "Ice Age" production book and they had a really awesome way of applying fur. They actually extruded all the edges from the mesh and applied opacity maps to the resulting surfaces. I didn't have time to read much about it, but.....well, the results obviously kicked much ass.

ah well enuff blab from me....:shrug:

[aenema]

good work :thumbsup: textures on the head are fantastic, i agree

[ai_jai]

hey man, think its pretty kick ass so far............

one thought i did have (ho) was on his front paws.........i thought they looked like they purtrued out a bit too much? too much like fingers? i had a quick look for some paw examples too see if i was goin crazy or not.....so heres a pic to see if u know wot i mean?........(please dont hate me! :hmm: lol)

otherwise....:thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

[creepyalex]

j00 sux0rs my nutz0rz, here is a truly elite cheetah

[creepyalex]

::update::

[Lukashi]

Ok lets do some replying

aspiretek: Thanks :) ill make the fur only in certain parts because i dont have a power cpu ill just use alpha maps

fakie: Thanks for the support :)

ai_jai: Yes the toes are pretty bad ill get to them in a bit, just havent been the mood to make them :/

creepyalex: Haha you wish alex :), last time i send u my model :p
This is a far superior update (mmm aniston :) )
Hehehe (http://www.geocities.com/lukashi/anisto.txt)

[ai_jai]

Alrighty Jeff! (the Dude) keep the updates comin, i bin watchin this cat progress very nicely!!!

holy god thats a nice pic of jen!!!!

"walter: Shut the f*** up donny!!!" i love it!

:cool: :wip:

[Lukashi]

HAhaah you can always pick out the lebowski fans from cgtalk :D

[Lukashi]

i dont know if this is a step forwards or backwards....updated the arm texture a bit and added a shinny material

http://www.geocities.com/lukashi/cheetah33.txt

[Risibility]

plz make toes on paws closer together and make the spots on his fur universally the same size and make his shoulders smaller, cheetahs have strong BACK legs for POUNCING not strong front legs for tripping. and plz add wings and rockets like creepy alex or it just will never do.

i would suggest using the size and color of the heads texturing cuz that is just beautiful...

btw im naked

[Emre]

Hey risibility!, :)

i think you'r right about the shoulders but,
Dude wants his cat to look very strong and huge.i asked him this before therefore i know.

bye

[Lukashi]

yep Emre :)

Heres another update ill be working on this texture till friday or so

http://www.geocities.com/lukashi/cheetah34.txt

[Lukashi]

another update, just tweaking that texture :), btw i apaulagize about the tail...

http://www.geocities.com/lukashi/cheetah37.txt

[Lukashi]

mmm yah he needs to be rigged anyways had a lil fun and made this render...

http://www.geocities.com/lukashi/cheetah38.txt

[ai_jai]

lmao! ha ha ha, hey man, i like how you've chopped off his feet for ya fancy render!!! (very sly)

looking good though! :thumbsup:

wot animation u got planned for it?

to tha dude! :beer:

[Lukashi]

ahem ahem wut are u talking about, hmmm maybe ur right i may have "accidently" cut of the feet :)

[ai_jai]

yehes! Ahum Ahum indeed! lol The dodgy widescreen dimensions are a pretty good clue! ;)

are you gonna animate it then?:bounce: :bounce: :bounce:

[Lukashi]

yah i will but the story is still quite wip :)

[Lukashi]

:wavey: Hey guys

Its the end of the weekend and i havent updated in days, just wanted to show some progress to show that i am still alive and working on this :)

I got the skeleton down but some of the ik needs work, also the skinning job thus far is crap!!

[ai_jai]

hey woddup Dude!

good to hear things are still progressing, nice action pose you got it in.

we gonna see this thing in full spriting motion? if so GOOD LUCK!!!

:thumbsup:

[Lukashi]

THanks ai_jai, yes it will be running and fast!

I just had a lil bit of fun in photoshop, the grey got to me :p

http://www.geocities.com/lukashi/cheetah42.txt

[Emre]

COOLIEE

[Lukashi]

Thanks :), ok i did a better job rigging heres a rig update... another action cheetah pose!

http://rendermonitor.no-ip.com/forum/download.php?id=76

[Remi]

Lukashi...this is just amazing work....would love to see it in a scene but the work so far is stunning....keep up the great work..:thumbsup:

[Lukashi]

Thanks remi, i started animating, but its got real issues, could use some help :shrug:

Animation 1 (http://rendermonitor.no-ip.com/forum/download.php?id=77)

[smfjersey]

It had been a while since I checked this thread. Wow it's kicking ass. I'm glad you didn't go with that original fur idea. This looks great.

[Lukashi]

thanks, smfjersey

Im still having trouble with the run cycle heres an update...
Animation2 (http://rendermonitor.no-ip.com/forum/download.php?id=79)

[smfjersey]

Tonight at 9 PM ET. There is an awesome documentary on cheetahs and other large cats. Animal planet!

Love the stretch you're getting on his flanks.

way better anim cycle

[Lukashi]

!!! thanks!! gonna tape it!

[Aros]

The animation looks pretty good. I don't know much about the movement of a cheetah, but are the front legs really going between the back two legs?

[Lukashi]

Yes i think they do, most of my pictures so far point that way at least :)

I uploaded some footage ive been using, to help make crit easier

Cheetah Reference Video (http://rendermonitor.no-ip.com/forum/download.php?id=80)

**Right click and save it, doesnt seem to work unless u do that**

[Aros]

Ah I see, fear my knowledge of cheetah movement ;)

Your animation looks pretty flawless, good work :)

[MikeRhone]

Animation Crit:

Not bad so far. Its obvious that your F-curves are fighting each other from his Centre Of Gravity through to his neck. His head should remain steady as he runs. The best way to do the back is to make sure you have keys on the same frames for every bone along the spine to the neck, and make sure that the keyframes' slopes match as well. In rigs I do, I use set driven keys instead of trying to tweak all of those individual bones along the spine.

His back right foot needs to hold/antic more just before it connects with the ground. I like how you have the snap on the foreground foot, but the one in the back seems very floaty. I can see you are trying to offset the leg like in your reference footage. An easier way would be to keyframe both back feet at the same time, then all the keyframes back a few frames for the rear leg. That way you have the distinct coil up and a sudden burst as his foot fires back, and teh 2 legs are offset for visual appeal.

In the reference video, his front legs come forwarda and his fore-arms are completly secondary animation (From his shoulder and upper arm movement.) If you can, make your models forearms almost "loose" right up until they slap down on the ground. They should drag behind the motion of the elbow just up until they are brough back down to start another stride.

Its always hard to explain animation crit in a forum, so I hope I've offered some help that can be understood. All in all a decnt piece on animation, and I love the model.

Mike R

[Lukashi]

RhoneDog, nicely said, Ull definetly see these things on the next update!!

[Lukashi]

hmmph ok im gonna restart the run cycle, on a good note, doing this is teaching me ALOT :wavey:

[mansig]

hi lukashi

that is simply beautiful
but the front legs seem to be too long.
this point appart, great :thumbsup:

[Lukashi]

Thanks mansig,

I restarted the walk cycle and changed the rig a bit theres still loads of bugs to fix this was my first render of it :shrug: , but its better the third time around :) still learning lots of stuff

http://www.geocities.com/lukashi/Animation/xcheetahrun3.avi

Here are the ik thingamagigers

http://www.geocities.com/lukashi/Animation/aik.avi

and here are the bones

http://www.geocities.com/lukashi/Animation/gbones.avi

[MikeRhone]

Looking MUCH better this time around lukashi. The problems I'm seeing now are just very slight.

It looks like you have a lot of keyframes in there, and you really should go in and try and smooth things out now. The overall motion is perfect in my opinion.

On frame 30-33 his back left leg seems to stop for a few frames. I would just look in your graph editor and make the rotation on his leg smoother from 25 - 38. Scrub the time slider back and forth a few times until you can see a perfectly smooth arc the entire time his foot has contact with the ground.

I've sped your animation up to "Real time" in premiere to see how it looks. Other than the foot thing I mentioned, its spot on. Put in some motion blur and consider it done.

Nice work...!

Mike R

[Lukashi]

ok i started to learned how to camera match today :) sorry about the stupid lil circles :( it was the only good pic i found with measurements

[Beeronimo]

Wow man!... I love cheetah's... yours is great!

Just had to say that :)

Likeyour avatar too! :cool:

[Lukashi]

Heres another update, i know its been a while :)

http://rendermonitor.no-ip.com/forum/download.php?id=92

edit: i have to animate it, so any request on what it should do in this lil barn? :)

[Lukashi]

ok im going to sleep so heres the cheetah going to sleep :)

cheetah sleeping (http://www.geocities.com/lukashi/cheetahrender2.jpg)

[ARSA]

like i said before... awesome work ... luv it!!! but in this one I think the cat looks too big in the scene ... (personal opinion ) unless the bunker is too small ??? if that is the idea is ok, but if is not ... ... :airguitar

[Emre]

Hello Dude!

i see the yahoo sorry message instead of your cheetah.(sleepy one)
they don't allow hotlinks.

[guestdude]

Originally posted by Emre
Hello Dude!

i see the yahoo sorry message instead of your cheetah.(sleepy one)
they don't allow hotlinks.

just put this into ur ie..
http://www.geocities.com/lukashi/cheetahrender2.jpg

[guestdude]

it's a great cheetah!
and i'm only making this post to edit my disparaging remarks that i only did for the movie, i swear i love the cheetah!

[Lukashi]

ok yah pretty much done with filming animation starts soon, had a bunch of technical delays :( :shrug:

anyways heres some screenshots it get rid of the watermarks
http://www.geocities.com/lukashi/hehe.txt

[Lukashi]

hi, here is an update...finally

http://www.geocities.com/lukashi/bah.txt

going for that effect from the ring when the girl pops out of the tv

[Lukashi]

heres another, ;)

http://www.geocities.com/lukashi/bah2.txt

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