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penguinpavilion
02-05-2003, 03:55 AM
Check out the latest Martin's minutes. I mean, with what has gone on these last few weeks is this what is on his mind?

http://www.hash.com/martinsminutes/index.asp?a=d&number=373

MARTINS MINUTES - 1/24/2003 #373

A Good Deal

I want to begin by saying that I think Discreet is a fine company, and they make great products, which only makes their press releases more endearing.
For example, recently they announced that a single seat of “Inferno”, a premiere compositing program by any standard, is only $671,000. Okay… But they do have a more affordable, stripped down, limited, junior version, “Flame”, for a mere $264,500, (what’s the odd $500?). Their weakest product, by name anyway, “Flint”, (not quite a fire but you can start fires with it), is a price leader at under $100,000, ($99,000 to be exact). These people aren’t fooling around – they sell to professionals. Just moving a couple of those Inferno babies would equal our gross receipts for the year.




All I could say was --- huh???
koon69
02-05-2003, 04:31 AM
I agree that maybe he should focus on AM. But I think that-to him-its funny how discreet prices its apps and comes across as same old same old. Hey its only $65,000. Considering that Maya dropped its price and all. I guess hes saying that discreet should not piss off to many people.
Natess44
02-05-2003, 04:32 AM
It's more of a marketing spiel in a minute but if those prices are accurate he does have a point.
dfaris
02-05-2003, 04:39 AM
I'll bet those products work, unlike mister hash's
Natess44
02-05-2003, 04:40 AM
They'd better! I don't think very many people could afford them.
dantea
02-05-2003, 04:45 AM
The professional products don't sell to the artists. They sell to the studios. In my mind at least, that's a very different marketing model.
penguinpavilion
02-05-2003, 04:56 AM
Originally posted by koon69
I agree that maybe he should focus on AM. But I think that-to him-its funny how discreet prices its apps and comes across as same old same old. Hey its only $65,000. Considering that Maya dropped its price and all. I guess hes saying that discreet should not piss off to many people.

I dunno, it's kinda like Hyundai critiquing Lamrogini's pricing model, isn't it?
Natess44
02-05-2003, 04:56 AM
Yea, How are you going to train the people to use the programs? :) In the studio? They'd be better just to use the programs they are good at for that type of effort.
jayrtfm
02-05-2003, 06:47 AM
There's been discussions about this on the Compositing & Visual Effects forums here.
What Hash fails to mention is that those prices INCLUDE hardware.
Also, since it's used with clients sitting over the shoulder of the artist, working on short deadlines, the suites can bill for $800+ an hour. So it can concievably pay for itself in a year.

What's really intresting is how many hints he has been dropping about the size and revenues of Hash, inc.....
dantea
02-05-2003, 10:55 AM
So, somewhere around $2.5M to $3M you reckon?
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