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mugana
10-18-2006, 12:12 AM
I have an interest to draw and was considering the wacom graphire4. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16883100023

Do people usually draw with pencil and paper first, scan it, and refine it with a wacom tablet? Or can i just draw art with the wacom tablet alone? I dont have a scanner so I am debating to buy a tablet alone or with a scanner.

tomt
10-18-2006, 01:32 AM
If it were me, I'd skip the scanner and go with the Intuous 3 with a 6 by 8 sketch area. The Graphire is a great starting pad, but as you get adept with it, you wind up wanting to upgrade to get the full features that the Intuous provides. I've used both and my kids have a Graphire.

mugana
10-18-2006, 02:12 AM
is there any advantage to using the intuos over the graphwire besides the size difference? I just mainly do cartoons.

tomt
10-18-2006, 02:42 AM
If you are just doing line art and fills, the Graphire will be fine. If you are using software that allows shading of lines, perhaps the Intuous would be a better choice. It is twice as pressure sensitive, plus allows for tilt and bearing. Best to go to the Wacom site to check all the differences. By the way, the Intuous will also go as small as 4 by 5 inches.

Dekus
10-18-2006, 01:52 PM
Graphire4 works fine for me.. its a lot cheaper than intuos... see my gallery for examples.. ;)

nders
10-19-2006, 08:24 AM
if u really, really only going to use scanner/tablet for drawing, i'd say skip scanner and get intuos as well. not only does the resolution and pressure sensitivty is higher, for me the most important thing is the surface, grip pen (and palm etc) difference, and the expresskeys that makes intuos a far better choice.

but as I mentioned, scanner could do lots of other stuff than drawing/painting and the price of intuos basically = graphire + scanner + a few more bucks.

once u go intuos u won't wanna go back graphire.

justAnewbie
10-19-2006, 09:00 AM
if you're used to pencil and paper, switching to wacom tablet will make you feel a bit different just like when you first used a mouse.

As for me, i prefer using the traditional materials then scan it. if you're thinking what wacom tablet works for you, If you're just dealing with linearts then color it using photoshop then wacom graphire will do. check wacom's website. I think that will help you decide. Goodluck!

snips
12-22-2006, 09:48 AM
A little off topic here....
BUT is it possible to scroll pages by using the pen it self and not the scrolling wheel on the tablet? I mean by touching the tablet with pen (up/down) and maybe pressing one of the buttons.

walterkilis
12-23-2006, 09:23 AM
Is this worth buying comparing to its expensive rivals?

snips
12-23-2006, 09:50 AM
For me , it is...
I know Intuos is better but i had no problem using the GRAPHIRE4.

evanfotis
12-23-2006, 05:08 PM
if you're used to pencil and paper, switching to wacom tablet will make you feel a bit different just like when you first used a mouse.
Goodluck!
I will second that. Some things you should consider:
Have you ever used a tablet before? try it out first.
Do you need accuracy in drawing?
Do you have the time to practice getting as efficient with the tablet as you are with pencil&paper?

Personaly, I have both big intuos's and small graphires.
For me the size makes the most difference. Get the biggest tablet you can afford, even if it is a refurbished previous model.
I still scan in my pencil drawings. No matter what, I cannot produce the same crosshatch and control with my wacoms that I do on paper.
It takes me more time and the result is not the same.
For filling, masking etc, tablets are fine, but for final result line work I still scan it in and edit over. For me it is a more efficient way.
But if you are now just starting, you may become more accustomed to work directly digitally on tablet. Wll save you time.

BlueFlare
12-24-2006, 05:57 AM
Get the biggest tablet you can afford, even if it is a refurbished previous model.

It all depends on your technique which tablet is most suited for you. After years of reading on graphics forums I can only conclude that the majority prefers the 6x8, which is not the largest size.

RiKToR
12-24-2006, 08:47 PM
I have both the graphire and the intuous, I have also used some of the generic branded ones. I got rid of the generic ones because compared to any wacom they just dont stand up to it. As far as between graphire and intuous, it is all about starting budget. If you dont have the budget get the graphire, it is a great tablet and works wonders in effecient drawing, texture painting, and matte painting. But I will let you know one thing, whether you start with the graphire or not you will end up with and intuos, it is a fantastic tool and by far more sensitive and capable then the graphire. I personally leave my Intuos (6x8) sitting at my desk at all times and use my graphire (4x5) in a little messenger bag to take around with me if I need to draw where theres a computer like my in-laws or work. The only thing I wish is that I could afford the 9x12 Intuos or the Cintique 21inch

destron
12-26-2006, 05:45 PM
I just got a Graphire4 4x5 (for Christmas :D) and I'm very satisfied with it, although since this is the only one i've used I can't make any recommendations on which Wacom tablet (graphire, intuos, cintiq) to buy. I would say, if you're just learning (like me! :)) then get a Graphire. However, if you have a lot of money to spend and you're sure this is what you want, I would suggest getting an Intuos. The Cintiq is probably waaaaay to expensive.

evanfotis
12-26-2006, 06:41 PM
Speaking ofXmas presents...
I got myself the I3 6x11 to go with my 17'laptop.
It is a beauty... just love the new xpress keys, and the glossy surface.
However theres one dissapointent for me:
the 5btn mouse, is of lower quality than previous models, even from the graphires.
First, they've reduced its size, which makes me have my palm a bit more clenched, which tires my muscles after a while.
The buttons click too loudly, which disturbs me, and the middle button/scroll whell feels flimsy. I bet it will give in first. (an old graphire 1 had this happen, but after lotsa years & abuse)
I used to use a graphire 2 for my ex-laptop, which has a better mouse than the Intuos 3 even if it has 3 buttons intead of 5. I still prefer the Intuos 1 5btn mouse, except from its side scroll wheel, which isn't stepped, but just rotates freely.
Another thing, is they've removed the transparent cover from the tablet (not that I'd use it) but older models & graphires had it.

hermine
12-31-2006, 10:34 AM
i got a volito wacom wich is the less expensive tablet, is there a big difference when using a intuous?(i know intuous has 1024 pression levels) someone made the jump from a volito(512 levels) to a intuous?

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