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Gisaiagami
10-06-2006, 05:48 PM
I desire very to improve my drawing and style. To go pra something realistic without losing trace. Style gekigá.
I stopped to draw to one 7 years. My trace this very different. It would like opinions of as to recommence

http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d31/gisaiagami/amazom1.jpg

http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d31/gisaiagami/amazom2.jpg

http://i112.photobucket.com/albums/n193/gisa_iagami/diana.jpg


My great defects is to leave the face excessively kids. Thing that not taste. And another one is to make the “base”. I make it but I do not know to geometric the figure to give volume

I wait to get aid

NR43
10-06-2006, 07:14 PM
Gisaiagami

Hi there, these are nice sketches.
I'm not in a position to give you any useful crits at this point but I am in a position to say "great work and hopefully we will see more of you soon"

:wavey:

Rebeccak
10-07-2006, 06:24 PM
Gisaiagami,

Welcome. :) I am glad to see you start a sketchbook here. I think what you want to try to achieve in your work is volume and realism. I would recommend that you try some Master Copies from this thread:

Anatomy Lesson Series: Body Part 1 - The Head (http://forums.cgsociety.org/showthread.php?t=375031)
http://forums.cgsociety.org/showthread.php?t=375031

and / or Master Copies from this Workshop, which is currently ongoing:

Anatomy Lesson Series: Body Part 2 - The Torso (http://forums.cgsociety.org/showthread.php?t=405198)
http://forums.cgsociety.org/showthread.php?t=405198

I think that doing Master Copies will really help you toward your goals. I look forward to seeing your work. :)

Cheers,

-Rebeccak

Cris-Palomino
10-08-2006, 12:47 AM
Hi, Gislaine.

I am so happy to see you started a sketchbook here. There is a lot of wonderful work and Rebecca has given you some great places to start.

I look forward to seeing your progress.

Cris

Gisaiagami
10-09-2006, 02:06 PM
Ours
I am happy for as much contribution.
I go to try to make the exercises considered here. It would be to copy to train certain?
I am without scanner per one days. But one shows more here livens up of a drawing that I made. Elemental of the water.

http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d31/gisaiagami/waterelemental.jpg

And other trying to reach realism. But I know that I go to obtain with the you helps :)

http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d31/gisaiagami/girl.jpg

Chris, Rebeccah, NR43 Thank you so much.:thumbsup::love:

Gisaiagami
10-11-2006, 09:17 PM
it is my terrible experience the copy body of elf
i use reference but no success in my drawing
I am for scarear some portraits that I made that they had left a little better but simply nao I obtain to copy and nor to make the exercises of the anatomy room. All the faces do not leave nor close similar :shrug:
http://i112.photobucket.com/albums/n193/gisa_iagami/01.jpg

One of the defects, I do not know “see geometric forms”

Rebeccak
10-11-2006, 11:51 PM
Gisaiagami,

I really recommend getting a book such as:

Drawing the Human Head (Paperback) by Burne Hogarth (http://www.amazon.com/Drawing-Human-Head-Burne-Hogarth/dp/0823013766/sr=8-4/qid=1160606739/ref=pd_bbs_4/104-2447561-0975162?ie=UTF8)
http://www.amazon.com/Drawing-Human-Head-Burne-Hogarth/dp/0823013766/sr=8-4/qid=1160606739/ref=pd_bbs_4/104-2447561-0975162?ie=UTF8

You can also get Andrew Loomis books here. (http://forums.cgsociety.org/showpost.php?p=3809007&postcount=11)

I think that these books will really help you. :)

Cheers,

-Rebeccak

Gisaiagami
10-13-2006, 12:52 PM
Hi friend
I have 6 books of the Loomies
I am trying to train but I have noticed that the face is always equal changing only the hair.
Painting attempts made

http://i112.photobucket.com/albums/n193/gisa_iagami/estatua.jpg

http://img252.imageshack.us/img252/6658/flutistfairybywilldan4hl5ws9.jpg

http://i112.photobucket.com/albums/n193/gisa_iagami/guerreira2.jpg

Cris-Palomino
10-14-2006, 02:06 AM
Hello, Gislaine.

I am happy to see you posting your work. Take some time to go through some of the other people's threads in this forum. You will see everyone is at varying levels. Most of us are trying to do some of the workshops (http://forums.cgsociety.org/forumdisplay.php?f=199). Rebecca has really put together some remarkable ones. You might try some of them, too.

Cris

Gisaiagami
10-16-2006, 01:57 PM
Hi Cris
Thank you so much
i am no time =/ and no understand if it is for copying or trying to draw in workshops
I am train the lessons on the loomies books
But without much success
3 of my new drawings

http://i112.photobucket.com/albums/n193/gisa_iagami/Digitalizar0004.jpg

http://i112.photobucket.com/albums/n193/gisa_iagami/Digitalizar0003.jpg

http://i112.photobucket.com/albums/n193/gisa_iagami/Digitalizar0002.jpg

Gisaiagami
10-18-2006, 06:05 PM
study the geometric forms and styles
Please C&C for evolution or no welcome

http://img144.imageshack.us/img144/8317/estudosef6.jpg

Gisaiagami
10-26-2006, 02:12 PM
I know that it is a question crossbow But simply not I obtain to make comment drawing I
I tried to train the tecnicas of loomies but the head always leaves tins.
I tried to make the exercicio considered for the friend Rebecca but did not leave nothing similar Friends, what to make?
He makes one month that I try to use of the resources that vocês had spoken to me: ( He sees finishes it thing that left, this being based on a model photo =/
http://i112.photobucket.com/albums/n193/gisa_iagami/01.jpg


I left the lines so that your can see and to help me please
Thank you so much cris, rebecca and all c&c

R-Russo
10-26-2006, 03:04 PM
Hi Gisa.

Grat work so far. There´s a lot of good things about it.

Try to use the Loomis´s schemas as base to draw the heads found in:
Anatomy Lesson Series: Body Part 1 - The Head (http://forums.cgsociety.org/showthread.php?t=375031)

I´m a beginner artist, but you can have a better undertanding in my last sketch.
You can find it HERE (http://forums.cgsociety.org/showthread.php?t=418169). I hope it helps.

I look forward to seeing more work. Keep going.

Rebeccak
10-26-2006, 03:31 PM
Hi Gisa,

I have a recommendation - why not try copying the eye demo I did here:

http://www.foundationalarts.com/cgi-bin/forums/ikonboard.cgi?act=ST;f=9;t=30;st=0

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b380/rebeccak5/Anatomy%20Forum_Main/IMG_1248.jpg


I think it will show you a lot about breaking down form. What do you say? :)

Cheers,

-Rebeccak

R-Russo
10-26-2006, 03:52 PM
Hi.

The link to the Anatomy Threat takes you to a page full of image thums of heads.
Choose a image head from the list, find its corresponding information, click in the link: >>SEARCH FEATURE OF THE WEB GALLERY OF ART<< (http://www.wga.hu/index1.html) , click in the search button and enter the title and/or author of the selected image.

Gisaiagami
10-30-2006, 02:46 PM
this is my attempt of both the exercicios What rebeccak and later Russian indicated me and the eye Without knowing what to speak on them
http://i112.photobucket.com/albums/n193/gisa_iagami/water.jpg
http://i112.photobucket.com/albums/n193/gisa_iagami/Digitalizar0013.jpg
http://i112.photobucket.com/albums/n193/gisa_iagami/Digitalizar0012.jpg

And others drawing for me
http://i112.photobucket.com/albums/n193/gisa_iagami/Digitalizar0006.jpg
http://i112.photobucket.com/albums/n193/gisa_iagami/Digitalizar0007.jpg
http://i112.photobucket.com/albums/n193/gisa_iagami/Digitalizar0008.jpg
http://i112.photobucket.com/albums/n193/gisa_iagami/Digitalizar0009.jpg
http://i112.photobucket.com/albums/n193/gisa_iagami/Digitalizar0010.jpg
http://i112.photobucket.com/albums/n193/gisa_iagami/Digitalizar0011.jpg

Rebeccak
10-31-2006, 04:25 PM
Gisaiagami,

A book I would really recommend that you look for is this:

The New Drawing on the Right Side of the Brain (http://www.amazon.com/New-Drawing-Right-Side-Brain/dp/0874774195/sr=8-1/qid=1162311802/ref=sr_1_1/102-3229837-1067303?ie=UTF8&s=books)
by Betty Edwards (http://www.amazon.com/New-Drawing-Right-Side-Brain/dp/0874774195/sr=8-1/qid=1162311802/ref=sr_1_1/102-3229837-1067303?ie=UTF8&s=books)

I'm pointing you to the amazon.com link, but I'm sure that you can find a translated / Portuguese version, as this book is really a classic. :)

Once you find the book (either in a library or store or online) I recommend going through all of the exercises - they will really help you to build spatial and observational skills, which is of course key to drawing. I think you'll really get a lot out of this book, if you read and follow the exercises. :)

Cheers,

-Rebeccak

Gisaiagami
10-31-2006, 04:55 PM
hi rebeccak
I caught this book with a friend, translated into the Portuguese
Still I am having difficulties in the first exercises, mainly to draw upside-down. We go to see if I carry through the desire to learn Many had spoken of it as being excellent.

Rebeccak
10-31-2006, 05:09 PM
I would say to just take your time with the book - learning how to draw can be a very slow, difficult process, and there is no need to rush - why not post the results of your exercises here? Mainly that might help you to really do the exercises, which are incredibly useful - and they are really the first step.

Looking forward to seeing your exercises. There is also this Workshop here based on the book:

BEGINNERS' Drawing Workshop - Drawing on the Right Side of the Brain (http://forums.cgsociety.org/showthread.php?t=269026)
http://forums.cgsociety.org/showthread.php?t=269026

Cheers,

-Rebeccak

Cris-Palomino
10-31-2006, 06:39 PM
Hi, Gislaine.

I'd like to second Rebecca's suggestions with doing all the exercises in Drawing on the Right Side of the Brain. Some of the things the book asks you to do may feel or seem odd, but there are very good reasons for trying each exercise.

You have gotten into a formula for what and how you draw. It's a very common thing, but it can keep you from going beyond what has become comfortable for you. This is really a great opportunity for you to try new things in a community who is very open to helping and encouraging you.

We all have things to learn. That's why I do my anatomical studies in this forum, too. Rebecca is a great teacher and gives so much of her time to any of us willing to invest time to improving our art.

You have done some really cool stuff, Gislaine. I promise you, if you keep working at this and remain open to the exercises and suggestions, in a year, you will see such a difference.

I look forward to seeing your work here, my friend.
Cris

NR43
10-31-2006, 08:37 PM
Hi Gislaine,

I don't have the book you people are talking about, but since it is a classic, I'm very curious to see what kind of exercises are in there.
Could you show us a few please?
Since I'm rather novice I'm really curious about this :)

thanks in advance

Devil-inside
11-02-2006, 12:18 PM
Hey, Gisa!
It's good to see you here, girl!

All the advices that Rebbeca and Cris gave you are extremelly precise, so I don't have anything more to say about your drawings, girl, except, keep trying with all your will power. Drawing is an ability that we develop with dedication and hard work. You'll see the more you practice the better you'll become.

Be strong on your ideals!
Kisses,
Kim.

slickgreekgeo
11-05-2006, 11:58 AM
Solid works, but I think you can improve more if you study the Loomis books. It helped me out a lot, so I highly recommend it.

Shadowbrooke
11-09-2006, 08:59 PM
Hi Gislaine,

Wow I never knew there are more places for sketchbooks! These are really cool. I'm posting here one page from Loomis book for you :)

Hope it helps. Keep up the good work and I'd love to see more sketches :)

http://i95.photobucket.com/albums/l146/feyarts/025.jpg

Later sweetie,
Brooke.

arnocob
11-11-2006, 01:36 PM
:)
Hi!
Drawing anatomy is probably the most difficult (that's why I am most on environments...even if I try sometimes to include characters) so, I would encourage you.

We can see in your drawings that you have abilities with expressive details. I suggest you to not concentrate on that first. You've also to keep in mind that body is made of articulated geometric volumes. It easy to say and difficult to manage, I know:)
I had an experience with clay modeling and when I draw bodies, I tries to remember that feeling...have you ever try too?
What I wanted the most was to encourage you, hope it works a bit!
bye

Gisaiagami
11-11-2006, 02:49 PM
Hi friends
Thank you excessively for all support that has given me. She has stimulated me more and more to each day to continue :)
Friends of Brazil and world: Chris, Devil, Russo, Nr43
slickgreekgeo. Kalendra, my angels: I am seeing books of the Loomies, but I found the way of construction of head of it indeed difficult.
Another thing that leaves me unsafe, generally not reference use. I do not know if it would have to use.
Arnacob, honour for this presence in my sketches. I love your scenes.
Thank you for tips :D

I am train de eye, the nose in my studys
http://i112.photobucket.com/albums/n193/gisa_iagami/Digitalizar0001.jpg
http://i112.photobucket.com/albums/n193/gisa_iagami/Digitalizar0002-1.jpg


I am train face used reference in this images.
The images if motram prolongated in the face. And finishes it this with a air not very feminine, but it wanted to know of your if they find that it had improvement. Where to apply more.

http://i112.photobucket.com/albums/n193/gisa_iagami/Digitalizar0004-1.jpg
http://i112.photobucket.com/albums/n193/gisa_iagami/Digitalizar0003-1.jpg


I really liked this result,although it needs to improve more and more.

Rebeccak
11-11-2006, 03:03 PM
Gisaiagami,

Very nice studies of eyes - I think it's a really good idea to focus on individual features like this. Keep going! :)

Gisaiagami
11-13-2006, 02:19 PM
thank you a lot my angel
this is reference of head and face

http://i112.photobucket.com/albums/n193/gisa_iagami/LS__glitter_portrait_01_by_lucias_s.jpg

http://i112.photobucket.com/albums/n193/gisa_iagami/Kitty_Stock_ID.jpg

I am finding prolongated excessively the head. It is a constant problem, exactly making the construction lines.

Shadowbrooke
11-13-2006, 06:21 PM
Hi Gislaine :)

Wow you're making great progress! The facial alignments look much better and the eyes studies look great. Keep up the good work :applause:

Cris-Palomino
11-14-2006, 09:55 AM
Glad to see you keep working at all of this, Gislaine. Part of the reason I think you have a bit of disassociation from what you study and what you draw, is that you llke a type of figure that is a stylization.

As you learn to understand the real thing, you will have an easier time applying the information to the stylization. Even when I draw a character like Eeyore, i keep in mind the way an elephant moves for when I pose Eeyore. I have a fat little toddler in mind when I draw Pooh. The cartoons/illustrations we do are abstractions of the real thing in some way if they are going to be successful. Even the most cartoony of pictures is based on mannerisms the cartoonist observes and gets across with body language.

The more you work at it, the closer you will get to the AHA! moment and things will begin to fall into place.

Keep at it, Gislaine. I'm really proud of you for persevering.
Cris

Gisaiagami
11-17-2006, 11:29 AM
Chris, that is half complicated. I generally use photos also. But exactly thus the drawing if distorts as by chance.
something is involuntary. I adore the realism. But everything seems to distort of course.
As example this is a study based on the studies of the book of the Loomies, of head
The style cartoo remains same that I have attemped to make a realistic head.
Some angles are complicated and I did not obtain to make. E the drawing always goes pra right superior part. I tried to make two to master CoPy without success due to this estilization
I am reading the book of the Betty but also I did not obtain to execute the exercises
My study basead in Loomies, the style of bok is very difficult for me

http://i112.photobucket.com/albums/n193/gisa_iagami/cab1.jpg
http://i112.photobucket.com/albums/n193/gisa_iagami/cab2.jpg

ha-dou-ken
11-17-2006, 11:39 AM
Hi Gisaiagami, :)

Keep at it! I love the feature studies you did, especially the eyes. Very nice. The head tilt problem can be...problematic, I know heh. Maybe trying to flip the image horizontally may help. Also vertically. I can usually spot many errors with perspective and tilt that way.

Good Luck, and don't give up. Ciao

Rebeccak
11-17-2006, 03:21 PM
Nice progress with this latest set! :thumbsup: Keep going! :)

Gisaiagami
11-23-2006, 01:52 PM
Hi sweetys
more images
I am trying here to go for realism as I said Two first ones using reference photo.
In the lesson of drawing I we are practising the exercicios (some) of drawing with the right side of cerebro. Mine my right side left nothing to see Finds not functions. We made an orange drawing but mine not left certain, the shading.

http://i112.photobucket.com/albums/n193/gisa_iagami/g2.jpg
http://i112.photobucket.com/albums/n193/gisa_iagami/g4.jpg
http://i112.photobucket.com/albums/n193/gisa_iagami/g1.jpg
http://i112.photobucket.com/albums/n193/gisa_iagami/g3.jpg

Coments welcome please.
I am feeling itself half lost if really I have talent to continue.

R-Russo
11-23-2006, 02:15 PM
Gisa,

In fact I don´t believe too much in talent. I think everybody who really wants to do something develops some kind of talent in this thing. What counts is the hard work. Train Hard. Never give up. I know a lot of people who didn´t know how to dral well, but today they are very good artists. My teacher itself is a good exemple. His previous drawings were awful.

I still can see a lot of progress in your drawings. Keep it up!

I recommend you to continue reading and doing the exercices of Drawing With The Right Side of the Brain. And if possible start doing some drawing classes.

Please. Never give up.

Gisaiagami
11-27-2006, 01:52 PM
Hi sweetys
Debtor for all support. I am very happy with the aid of all
I have much difficulty with shade. but I decided to make some tests that not yet I finished to see if they give more depth

http://i112.photobucket.com/albums/n193/gisa_iagami/Digitalizar0005.jpg

http://i112.photobucket.com/albums/n193/gisa_iagami/Digitalizar0006-1.jpg

I use 2b and 6b for shadows.
Another thing that I am trying is to paint but I find that it must have something wrong with mine tablet. I made a video of the tests. if somebody will be able to help. I am thankful.

http://rapidshare.com/files/5029899/New.rar.html

Rebeccak
11-27-2006, 02:06 PM
Gisaiagami,

Great progress here! Keep going! :)

razz
12-01-2006, 04:29 PM
Hey, Gisaiagami, good practising, keep up with it. It's impossible to do too much of practise, so just keep going. Practise! It's what we are all doing here :)

frostblade
12-05-2006, 07:31 AM
Try to think about the shape of each and every line/dot/mark of pencil you make on the paper.
Looks like you're pressing too hard, hold pencil too hard... not relaxed and flowing to draw these thing. Maybe even draw some things in a rush. Try to draw lighter lines then come back and darken them when it looks like they are in the right place.

When you draw a line, start it soft and gentle and then go a little bit firmer and then lift it to end it softy again. It's almost like swinging the fore arm and hand in a outward arc softly.

Next time when you sharpen your pencil; on spare paper you should polish the tip or grind it to an angle to help you make more desireable markings for drawing what you like.

Gisaiagami
12-18-2006, 05:44 PM
Frostbabe, angel
I walk frustrate very when drawing
My teacher says that I do not have to look at resulted and to only train. Without understanding that this is a dream for me. :sad:
I am star the painting again
But I feel myself lost again. The way to "block" is missed and the development does not go well to follow some processes that I tried


http://i112.photobucket.com/albums/n193/gisa_iagami/stepbystep00.jpg


http://i112.photobucket.com/albums/n193/gisa_iagami/stepbystep04.jpg
http://i112.photobucket.com/albums/n193/gisa_iagami/stepbystep05.jpg
http://i112.photobucket.com/albums/n193/gisa_iagami/process222.jpg

Blends
http://i112.photobucket.com/albums/n193/gisa_iagami/teste.jpg
http://i112.photobucket.com/albums/n193/gisa_iagami/blend.jpg

And my actually painting.

http://i112.photobucket.com/albums/n193/gisa_iagami/g4-1.jpg
http://i112.photobucket.com/albums/n193/gisa_iagami/g42.jpg
http://i112.photobucket.com/albums/n193/gisa_iagami/g4-2.jpg

Comments and help very very welcome

Intervain
12-18-2006, 05:54 PM
for blending and skin there's a great, and IMO helpful, tutorial by Linda Bergkvist on her website: http://www.furiae.com (http://www.furiae.com)


I think you might find some of her tips useful :) Keep going - I really like the lineart on your painting!

Gisaiagami
12-18-2006, 08:24 PM
thank you intervain
But my great problem is shadow and light =/
And erase the line sketch
I am crazy for it =/
My update
http://i112.photobucket.com/albums/n193/gisa_iagami/upg001.jpg

Gisaiagami
12-19-2006, 05:07 PM
Hi
My update for image
Please, comments for help
http://i112.photobucket.com/albums/n193/gisa_iagami/g4f.jpg

Progress???

Gisaiagami
12-20-2006, 01:57 PM
Adjusts
http://i112.photobucket.com/albums/n193/gisa_iagami/gisamod.jpg
http://i112.photobucket.com/albums/n193/gisa_iagami/g4-5.jpg

Gisaiagami
12-21-2006, 05:01 PM
Painting attempts…

Training tablet trace
http://i112.photobucket.com/albums/n193/gisa_iagami/estranho2.jpg
http://i112.photobucket.com/albums/n193/gisa_iagami/teste.jpg

Blend training in mouse:
http://i112.photobucket.com/albums/n193/gisa_iagami/blend.jpg

Apple
http://i112.photobucket.com/albums/n193/gisa_iagami/apple1.jpg

http://i112.photobucket.com/albums/n193/gisa_iagami/apple2.jpg

anandpg
12-22-2006, 05:31 AM
Hi Gislaine!! great progress, girl!! you are getting better with each drawing... keep going!!:thumbsup:

Gisaiagami
01-28-2007, 09:30 PM
thank you and sorry for delay in reply
more problems =/

kayness
01-31-2007, 09:00 PM
Hello Gislaine!!!


You are improving each time you post here! As for your latest painting, I can see that your light comes from the right side, so the shadows should be on the left, so my suggestion would be painting moe shadows on her left side, and bascially just refine the shadings.

tis all good! keep practicing!

Kay

SylvanMist
02-01-2007, 12:18 AM
Hi Gisaiagami!

Nice progress you're making here! I also agree with R-Russo, that "talent" is only gotten by doing hard work, practicing lots. It's not something you're born with.

A small critique on the girl with red hair you did:
Narrow the corners of the mouth more, the lips swoop down at an angle. Also take note on how the opening of the mouth is when closed. It not only bends down towards the center, but has a shape of it's own. If you'd like I can do a quick paint over for you to try and explain it better. Or you can get a photo ref too to see.

Gisaiagami
02-01-2007, 04:59 PM
hi friends
kayc o/
Thank you a lot for you opnion. I restart the painting in this figure
Roja, yes, love paint over. And help me for a new painting in this image.
with you, i am painting new image for my friend. The topic is this:
http://forums.cgsociety.org/showthread.php?t=457005&goto=newpost
i would like of your opnions there :D

SylvanMist
02-02-2007, 03:22 AM
Ok I hope this will help a little.
I'm no expert, if you want a really good paint over go and post in Stahlberg's thread, he's the master :)

What I did:
Made the nose a bit larger, added more curves(up/down/up/down) to the lips, Shaded the part of the nose between the eyes, it curves inward there and there's almost always a shadow at that area. Also shadowed in the parts between the nose & eyes more, the parts that cave into the eye sockets.
I think it also helps to draw the unseen parts, such as the ear and back of the head. Just draw a quick rough outline. This will give you a better idea of where to end the hair and such.
Oh and I also lowered the eyes too. I think they also may be a bit big, but if you're going for a more stylized look that should be ok, however I think you should decrease the size of the irises a bit nevertheless.

Anyway, if I didn't explain something well enough just ask, I have only done 1 other paint over in my life so I really don't have much experience in this :p
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v59/fflewddar/paintover1.gif

Gisaiagami
02-12-2007, 03:39 PM
ok...
Thank you for instructions...I am very happy and restart the painting this image soon... :)



http://i112.photobucket.com/albums/n193/gisa_iagami/Digitalizar0001-1.jpg

http://i112.photobucket.com/albums/n193/gisa_iagami/Digitalizar0003-2.jpg

http://i112.photobucket.com/albums/n193/gisa_iagami/Digitalizar0002-2.jpg

http://i112.photobucket.com/albums/n193/gisa_iagami/Digitalizar0004-2.jpg

study of drawing...no words...no happy for it...
i am crazy, unfortunate person with the results the dream to draw is if becoming something distant. And I do not know more what to make. They are the 4 6 daily hours drawing. When not more

NR43
02-12-2007, 04:13 PM
Hey Gisaiagami

don't get too discouraged now.

you're doing great. Just keep practicing every day. it doesn't have to be 4, 5 hrs but if you do something every day it will pay off in the end. Trust me.

Try to focus on the construction of the head. Have you heard of Andrew Loomis? He's got a really great book on it. There are links to his books for downloading somewhere on cgtalk. you'll find them easily with the search function of the forums.

check the first 20 pages or so of that book and start working on the basic shape of the head. don't worry too much about placing the facial features (eyes, nose, mouth). Be sure to read what he writes... don't just copy the sketches from the book. There is a system to learn here so what he explains is just as important as the sketches. Do these exercises for a while (say 2 months) and you will see how much you'll improve. Try to be patient. Learning to draw takes time. But make sure you draw every day, even if it is just for 30 minutes.

now pick up that pencil ;)

SpiritDreamer
02-12-2007, 06:04 PM
Hi...Gisaiagami...:)

I just looked thrue your thread....can see a lot of progress in diferent areas along the way..which is great to see...:thumbsup:
I think that the main problem with the faces you are doing, is that they lack the bone structure that is under the skin...the bones are really important to know,..not just in the face, but the whole body.
The more you know and really understand about the bones that are under the skin, the easier it will be for you to draw and paint the face and figure...in any style that you choose :)
There is a great skull tutorial and exercise that Rebecca has in this forum...everyone who has done that exercise has made great progress in thier drawings and paintings of heads and faces afterwards, including myself.
That skull exercise is a very vital step in this learning journy that you are on,and is the most important step, when it comes to doing believable heads and faces, and for sure is one that should not be missed...Without doing that skull exercise, it is like trying to run, before you learn how to walk...you will continually fall, and get totally frustrated...just my opinion here, concerning heads and faces...:)
If you decide to do that skull exercise, do it in grayscale...no color...just concentrate on the full range of values...dark to light/light to dark...see if you can really carve it out of the darkness, or the light , using VALUES...:)
You might also take a look at the tutorial that Icey just created..on this forum somewhere...he does bones really good...then of course there is DR. BONES himself, who has a couple of threads in here somewhere..you will learn a lot about bones, and thier importance in the creation of figures from both of them, just by studying there threads..:)

Really looking forward to seeing more of your work, and progress..:thumbsup:
TAKE CARE
Glenn

Gisaiagami
03-03-2007, 07:52 AM
NR43 Spirit
Thank you
but some things I do not obtain nor to start to make The base already only leaves wrong I am intensely trying to make the skull but without success. E worse is not to obtain to copy. Everything seems to leave different what I see.

These are plus some drawings q tried to make
http://i112.photobucket.com/albums/n193/gisa_iagami/orochimaru-sama2.jpg
http://i112.photobucket.com/albums/n193/gisa_iagami/Digitalizar0004-3.jpg
http://i112.photobucket.com/albums/n193/gisa_iagami/imposssiveis.jpg

Rebeccak
03-05-2007, 08:09 AM
Gisaiagami,

I can't emphasize enough how much I think you'd benefit from doing grayscale studies at first - really focus on getting the form and depth to read! Try working on one extended painting, instead of doing fast sketches. I think you'll really benefit. :)

Gisaiagami
03-05-2007, 05:57 PM
Hi dear friend
I no understand extended painting?
And It would very like to try to master CoPy but I do not know for where to start. I am trying to copy pictures but without solutions.

Gisaiagami
03-09-2007, 08:15 PM
Some works trying to study and one concept of new clothes jedi for a friend that is to customer design that is design of fancies and makes university of audiovisual production with me :)


http://i112.photobucket.com/albums/n193/gisa_iagami/Digitalizar0007-1.jpg
http://i112.photobucket.com/albums/n193/gisa_iagami/Digitalizar0009-1.jpg
http://i112.photobucket.com/albums/n193/gisa_iagami/Digitalizar0011-1.jpg
http://i112.photobucket.com/albums/n193/gisa_iagami/Digitalizar0013-1.jpg
http://i112.photobucket.com/albums/n193/gisa_iagami/Digitalizar0010-1.jpg
http://i112.photobucket.com/albums/n193/gisa_iagami/Digitalizar0008-1.jpg

Gord-MacDonald
03-10-2007, 06:32 AM
nice to see your work - getting down to the basics on the head :thumbsup:
I must say that I really like the whimsical feel of some of the drawing on page 1 - they remind me of Marc Chagall. Keep up the good work!

Gord

Gisaiagami
03-29-2007, 08:28 PM
Wow...after long time
Internet :x :x :x
But i'm back ^^

New update...
done in painter:
http://i112.photobucket.com/albums/n193/gisa_iagami/girl.jpg
ttp://i112.photobucket.com/albums/n193/gisa_iagami/painter1.jpg

In paper and paintings in photoshop

http://i112.photobucket.com/albums/n193/gisa_iagami/Digitalizar0014.jpg
http://i112.photobucket.com/albums/n193/gisa_iagami/Digitalizar0015.jpg
http://i112.photobucket.com/albums/n193/gisa_iagami/jedi-portrait.jpg
http://i112.photobucket.com/albums/n193/gisa_iagami/cheetara2.jpg
http://i112.photobucket.com/albums/n193/gisa_iagami/cheetara-1.jpg

ha-dou-ken
03-29-2007, 09:18 PM
HEy! Oh crap, you totally just leveled up on that last post. A huge jump there. What kind of pills are you taking?! More????

Gisaiagami
04-13-2007, 05:48 AM
training in tablet :(
http://i112.photobucket.com/albums/n193/gisa_iagami/ppp.jpg

http://i112.photobucket.com/albums/n193/gisa_iagami/ref1.jpg

http://i112.photobucket.com/albums/n193/gisa_iagami/maa.jpg

i am very sad for this works
training training and not evolution =/

Gisaiagami
04-18-2007, 09:53 PM
I have difficulty in hachurar and making shades
Here plus some treinos and new paintings too are starting to execute. I would like opinions on my evolution


http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d31/gisaiagami/Top4.jpg
http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d31/gisaiagami/Top2.jpg

http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d31/gisaiagami/Top.jpg
http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d31/gisaiagami/Top8-1.jpg

http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d31/gisaiagami/Top1.jpg
http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d31/gisaiagami/Top8.jpg


http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d31/gisaiagami/Top5.jpg
http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d31/gisaiagami/Top5-1.jpg
http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d31/gisaiagami/Top6.jpg
http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d31/gisaiagami/Top-1.jpg

kaladen
05-18-2007, 07:44 PM
Hello,
first, congrats for the work you have accomplished till the begining of this thread.
I 've done this little thing, may be it could help.

First, I think that you should try this method cause it gave great results to me
as well as many good painters here.

1 - draw the axis that guide your figure, shoulder line, arms, spinal column, pelvis.
2 - I see some proportions problems in your work, keep the head size as a guide,
human form is about seven and a half head, usually.
3 - pick a medium rouded brush and paint the volume from inside, forget the outlines
for a while. You will quickly see your form comes out.
4 - When you try to reproduce a model, a photo, don't forget to look at the holes
left by the model wich are very important. I painted them in red so you can see what
i'm talking about. Usually, you find them between the legs, the arms and the body.
Try to paint the neck by the hair behind it, and not paint the neck lines and the hair lines.
When you look at the photography and your painting, you will quickly see where are the mistakes looking at the "holes"
( I hope this is clear, it's hard to explain)
Here is an exemple of the result in 8 minutes and a half.



http://www.gorkovan.be/cgtalk/wip/ad01.jpg

Gisaiagami
07-03-2007, 03:01 PM
Hi friend
In tablet, I am having a difficulty with tablet I tried to use the here described process, but in the hour that I go to detail I do not obtain. To make the eye, the mouth. And also I had difficulty in some points of this process...
Drawing whith paper
http://img267.imageshack.us/img267/5351/29jun200702cx7.jpg

Gisaiagami
07-06-2007, 08:38 PM
More sketch using reference and grid method in photoshop

http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d31/gisaiagami/julie1970.jpg
http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d31/gisaiagami/sketch_menina.jpg

http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d31/gisaiagami/koike.jpg
http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d31/gisaiagami/sketch02.gif

And simple sketch from mind
http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d31/gisaiagami/sketch_3min.jpg

Gisaiagami
07-24-2007, 07:54 PM
more sketch

http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d31/gisaiagami/noiva.jpg
http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d31/gisaiagami/gisa.gif
http://i112.photobucket.com/albums/n193/gisa_iagami/seila-1.jpg

Blessing
07-25-2007, 01:20 PM
Gisaiagami:

I'm really glad to see the huge improvement you made from the beggining of your thread to your lasts posts, most of all in your paper drawings. About the tablet, it's really hard for me to draw properly on the Wacom too. I guess it's a matter of practise.
I wish I could give you a good advice, but I'm learning just as you're doing. I think kaladen told you all already.

Keep up the good work, my friend!

Cheers!


María

Gisaiagami
07-26-2007, 07:36 PM
hi my friends
thank you very much
i really training intensive for better results
This is 2 concept
First is Daphini - of Scooby doo
And this is a copy of girl in book
http://img517.imageshack.us/img517/37/26jul200701ot7.jpg

http://img509.imageshack.us/img509/1591/26jul200702at3.jpg

no rederence =)
http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d31/gisaiagami/sketch001.jpg

and this is for my portal drawing. The os-tan event
http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d31/gisaiagami/dreamweaver-tan-cloth.jpg

links for imageshack....
Comments welcome :D

Gisaiagami
07-27-2007, 12:46 PM
more updates

http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d31/gisaiagami/cabea.jpg
http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d31/gisaiagami/sketh.jpg
http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d31/gisaiagami/speed2.jpg

Gisaiagami
08-10-2007, 01:28 PM
more studys

http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d31/gisaiagami/athena.jpg
http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d31/gisaiagami/athenap.jpg
Not liked this painting :(
Strange piece
http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d31/gisaiagami/ostandreamwaver.jpg
http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d31/gisaiagami/corpo.jpg
http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d31/gisaiagami/teste.jpg
http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d31/gisaiagami/velmalapis.jpg
http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d31/gisaiagami/menina.jpg

My actually painting
http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d31/gisaiagami/miss_iagami_noline.jpg

Gisaiagami
08-13-2007, 12:18 PM
More studys...sad :(

http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d31/gisaiagami/sanji.jpg
Fanart of sanji: http://perso.orange.fr/sely/BI/onepiece/Fanarts/Sanji/sanji32.jpg
Anatomy studys :(
http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d31/gisaiagami/corpo-1.jpg
My character http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d31/gisaiagami/rei.jpg

And this is a lovely drawing finally
http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d31/gisaiagami/Digitalizar0001.jpg
fanart of kuchiki rukia
http://nani4.blog.jeuxvideo.com/images/mn/1157384294.jpg

TurbiX
08-13-2007, 12:51 PM
hey Gisa!!
Do you remember me? :)
I've watched all your sketchbook and i can see a lot of improvement!!
I really like your last sketches, your effort is paying off!
Keep practicing, i'll come back on every update, i'm learning too but maybe i can help you or just keep you motivating :)

Rist
08-13-2007, 07:00 PM
In the last post with images I can see you put more time into these, and it SHOWS! I was a careless artist that did quick sketches because I was too impatient. These kind of studies should be saved for anatomy and outdoor life drawing. I think if you started to put hours into just one piece, it would really show. If you find it difficult, break the hours up into segments.

Djampa
08-20-2007, 12:53 PM
Hi there !
How come you didn't show this sketchbook to me before ;)

Hey... nice to see your effort and improvement along time here.
Nice painting pieces you have here, keep it up.
What Fl3wk said about spending more time in one piece is totally true, keep up your efforts there.

My best wishes, cya (in a few mins :) )

NR43
08-22-2007, 10:37 AM
You've been making a lot of progress since last year.

Keep paying attention to the alignment of the facial features, even when you are drawing a full figure.

I wish you would study more anatomy, it will allow you to draw better manga.

Gisaiagami
09-21-2007, 01:51 PM
Turbix - Thank you a lot
I am not happy with my evolution =/
But..training...training..

Fl3wk thank you
I do not know if it would be patience. I spend hours, days, even though week. The attempt of a Japanese that I dispatched by post here already lasts 35 Hours without rightnesss. I have strengthenn.


Djampa thank you
You are having me visit in the CB. I did not forget. I go to catch in its foot hahaha

NR43
thank you, i love realistic face. Not manga =/ But no results in my progress =/
thank you a lot


more studys:

http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d31/gisaiagami/navate01.jpg
http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d31/gisaiagami/cabecas.jpg
http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d31/gisaiagami/mulhertatuada.jpg
http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d31/gisaiagami/shermie.jpg
http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d31/gisaiagami/desenhando.jpg






http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d31/gisaiagami/Digitalizar0004.jpg
http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d31/gisaiagami/Digitalizar0006.jpg

Gisaiagami
09-21-2007, 02:09 PM
More:
30 hours in this image...for realistic oriental girl =/
Tablet and tradicional tentative:
http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d31/gisaiagami/Digitalizar0001-1.jpg
http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d31/gisaiagami/pirate2.1.jpg

http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d31/gisaiagami/Digitalizar0003.jpg
http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d31/gisaiagami/Digitalizar0002.jpg

Gisaiagami
11-07-2007, 06:42 PM
Return

Fan art of one piece
http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d31/gisaiagami/Digitalizar0009.jpg


What problem:
While much study, I feel completely stopped. Without progress in painting and in drawing. I draw and paint 10 hours for day but I can not finish any of them.We sometimes claimed processes that try to follow and not. More recently tried the method shades of gray. Without success!
Now looking at the sketch of tasha (http://www.tascha.ch/) tried as from her. But the figure in some ways seems like a mass. And not like the paintings of her, or others artists. I would like to know more about blocar and what procedure to follow to finalize something decent.

This is a image test draw by my friend: Painting bay me =/ in progress

http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d31/gisaiagami/Miguel-1.jpg
http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d31/gisaiagami/meus-brush.jpg

Gisaiagami
05-02-2008, 02:19 PM
After long time...
This is a simple sketch fanart from Bleach
http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d31/gisaiagami/sketch.jpg
Painting Cover from Bleach
http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d31/gisaiagami/hirako.jpg

And my character from RPG xD
http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d31/gisaiagami/kadja-1.jpg

Gisaiagami
07-10-2008, 10:02 PM
More Drawing.
I return to study, and work work work
http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d31/gisaiagami/waterlilly-1.jpg

http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d31/gisaiagami/thyr.jpghttp://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d31/gisaiagami/amarie.jpg

Sky_Eagle
07-11-2008, 12:54 PM
your drawings are very good. Your digital work needs more practise but just remember one thing , when drawing in photoshop don't use the standard soft brush because it won't give you any texture, you should use hard brushes and speckled brushes , this will give you some texture and gives a sort of painterly feel to it.

Gisaiagami
08-18-2008, 01:00 PM
Thank you Sky Eagle, I'm trying to improve the digital part exactly by the difficulty in painting. Thanks for the tips

back to studys
2 studys of light and completely digital. Starting right from brushstrokes. without reference. I still have to learn to use them xD

http://i530.photobucket.com/albums/dd349/gisasketch/portrait100digitalfirst.jpg
http://i530.photobucket.com/albums/dd349/gisasketch/portrait100digital.jpg
http://i530.photobucket.com/albums/dd349/gisasketch/portrait100digital2.jpg

Study of portrait and light/Shadow
http://i530.photobucket.com/albums/dd349/gisasketch/digitalbla.jpg

critics for my evolution are very welcome :thumbsup:

Gisaiagami
05-26-2009, 03:45 AM
after long time, a return
Sanji Renew
http://i530.photobucket.com/albums/dd349/gisasketch/sanji.jpg
New face study
http://img24.imageshack.us/img24/3766/sanji.gif
Copy study x.x
http://img26.imageshack.us/img26/5551/reference.jpg
Fanart
http://img413.imageshack.us/img413/1847/yumi.jpg

Actually Stop
http://img11.imageshack.us/img11/3766/yumij.jpg

Copy -.-

Fanart
http://img411.imageshack.us/img411/9467/grimm.jpg http://img196.imageshack.us/img196/8809/starkblergh.jpg
http://img196.imageshack.us/img196/791/leng.jpg

Gisaiagami
02-09-2010, 12:25 PM
After long time... back to draw... and cgsociety

Updates a lot

http://i530.photobucket.com/albums/dd349/gisasketch/My%20Art/gi02.jpg
http://i530.photobucket.com/albums/dd349/gisasketch/My%20Art/gi11.jpg
http://i530.photobucket.com/albums/dd349/gisasketch/My%20Art/gi01.jpg
http://i530.photobucket.com/albums/dd349/gisasketch/My%20Art/gi03.jpg
http://i530.photobucket.com/albums/dd349/gisasketch/My%20Art/gi04.jpg
http://i530.photobucket.com/albums/dd349/gisasketch/My%20Art/gi05.jpg

Gisaiagami
02-09-2010, 12:27 PM
http://i530.photobucket.com/albums/dd349/gisasketch/My%20Art/gi06.jpg
http://i530.photobucket.com/albums/dd349/gisasketch/My%20Art/gi07.jpg
http://i530.photobucket.com/albums/dd349/gisasketch/My%20Art/gi08.jpg
http://i530.photobucket.com/albums/dd349/gisasketch/My%20Art/gi09.jpg
http://i530.photobucket.com/albums/dd349/gisasketch/My%20Art/gi10.jpg
http://i530.photobucket.com/albums/dd349/gisasketch/My%20Art/gi12.jpg

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