Eon (3D Scene) Entry: Linh Mai

[johnnymaster]

@ Nico: thanks dude! Yeah i think model a basic body is the best way, otherwise you'll lose to much time on it and it will be invisible later.

@ ragdoll: thanks a lot ;)

@ intervain: thanks! And yeah they are a bit flatten, but.....thats Milla:twisted:

Patricia will stands outside the vehicle actually, so i have to model the entire body.

@ Bergquist: thanks a lot! Of course i will take a look on your thread, waiting for your work!

[SweD]

always great work Linh, and i really like this buggy shape for your vehicle, and wait the Hd to see more :)

[ArsXC]

Seldom I look in other themes, and here Such!

Models, materials very qualitative and beautiful! =)

[Milkipanda]

Greeeeaaat >o<!!!:D

[johnnymaster]

http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/15/11851/11851_1164594966_large.jpg

Hey everybody,

i'm on the clothes actually, but today i took some time to improve the skin further. The goal was to create a skin shader that works with any possible light situation. This is really the most complex skin material i've ever made, but finally it works fine under all light conditions.

In Addition....as you can see, Patricia has eyes, finally. It wasn't easy for me to create natural looking eyes, it was modeled like a real eye model, the texture is a mix of retouche, paintings and procedural shaders. I used the eye of a friend as reference (thanks Siri ;) There's also eyelashes, each one contains about 250 hairs. Some micro raindrops are on the eyelashes too, but thats hard to identify at this resolution. On the skin surface there are 100.000 micro hairs, the effect is very subtle, but it gives the skin a bit more natural look.

see you later, i'm going to bed now!

[Nothingness]

Let me be the first - i hope - to call you insane!

amazing render. Looks great with the eyes and all.
I doubt that the micro hairs would be usefull at a normal resolution. But if it's noticable at high res, go for it!

i'm busy on the body, but i'm affraid i can't leave the detail alone ;-)

[TheSoracle]

I can now safely agree with both assumptions. You have WAAYY too much and incredible skill. Great job linh!!

Keep up the awesome work!!! (seeing as you have enough time to XD)

-Steven

[AndreiSzasz]

FANTASTIC !
great work man ... incredible.
what softwer do tou use that alows you to get so mutch polys and works so good with hair .
i just amasing how good it looks ...:bounce::bounce::bounce:
maybe the eyes could be tweeked a little to look so real as the skin does.
:buttrock:

[SweD]

i'm bored, man...

:scream:


Very awesome job Linh, modeling, lightning, texturing ! :cry: :thumbsup:

[simovici]

Imporessive textures.

At the beginning I thought it was a real picture. Only the eyes looked strange to me.

But it's gorgeus.

I will keep my eyes on your thread.

All the best.

[johnnymaster]

@ all: thanks for your encouragement, very kind!

@ Nico: Thanks! And yeah at this renderings you cant see the hairs, except of the left-bottom rendering, on the left side of the face you see very, very little hairs.

Good luck on the body dude!


@ Steven: funny postings as always hahahhaa, thanks!


@ AndreiSzasz: I'm working with Cinema, it allows you huge amount of polys and subsurface scatterings in short rendertimes. Each renderings above only took me only 4 minutes on a Pentium Dual 4,5 ghz, 3gb ram. I will improve the eye further, at this moment it doesnt work as fine as the skin, under some light condition there are some flaws, thats because it use a more simple SSS-model than the skin, maybe i'll change to a more complex SSS model. Thanks a lot!


@ Swed: thanks Cyril! Btw great job on the vehicle texturing, i'll write something to it later!


@ simovici: thanks a lot! As i said to Andrei i will improve the eyes further, the shader is very "young", so...theres a lot to improve ;)

[pichunter]

Very impressive!!!
I like you work, cool model and textures,
and so much poly!!! :eek: What configure of your computer? (oh, you reply this!)
I seem that be small problems in models I has marked on pic.
Good luck!

http://www.comsport.ru/images/11851.jpg

[johnnymaster]

@ pichunter: hey thanks a lot for your effort, this is really a constructive posting! I'll better this out immediately. In addition i will increase the displacement and normals on the halse, a bit flat at this moment, thanks once more and keep your great work!

[bearfoot]

wow linh ! wonderful modelling and texturing ! really impresive work

keep it up


cheers

[VietEmotion]

man, this is awesome, goddamn ... i have to go to the shitter;)

[Gunilla]

Amazing work throughout the whole thread - and the skin shader is unbelieveble.
Wonderful, I'm just gonna stay here and drool for awhile :thumbsup:

[chandro]

wow! cant wait to see the final scene:thumbsup: great work!!

[alvin-cgi]

very nice, like the water drops!!:) I found that your early post(models) was more human feel, these are abit cg for me... but anyway, is the top quality.

[ChewyPixels]

Sweet! :bounce:

But I'm still curious to see some concept work. Difficult to imagine what kind of composition you're aiming for.

[johnnymaster]

@ alvin: thanks! And yeah thats right, i've improved the textures and SSS, but these pics were rendered without the oily layer on the skin, because this would increase the rendertime 15x, too much for a fast preview ;)


@ jedi: thanks! Dont worry, i'm going to post concepts after finishing the vehicle and the whole character!;)

[icedeyes]

I.... think... just... :thumbsup::eek::bounce::applause::buttrock: :bowdown:


(Cant express in words... hope the smilies help to prove my point...)

[taavi]

Ten points! :applause:
One thing tough - does Milla know that she has a digital twin sister ???

:shrug:

[Leotril]

beautiful model :applause: .. are u planning to animate water.. could it be done?

[AndreiSzasz]

hey ! me again :D
i saw you said to cyril that the stone is not a place with dirt ... do you think my rusty buildings and stuf from the 6th chamber are to rusty?
i see this 6th chamber as an old chamber with mechanical things... it sais in the book that only some pomps are still moveing and the rest is some abandoned mechanisms... so i gues they are standing there for a long time, so they could be verry rusty since they are not doing anything for a long long time...
what you think?

[johnnymaster]

Hey Andrei!

this is a point of view, it's the different ways of interpretations i think. I really like your look of the 6th chamber, the rusty look is really special and authentic. I go a different way, where i think, that the technologies of the stoners are more advanced, so rust doesnt play a role on my environment design. I want to show the different technologies between the human vehicles and the environment of the stoners. I'm thinking on some plants and vines which are growing over the hundred years and covered some parts of chamber, it's more an abstract machine world. But thats my version, i don't think that you've made something wrong, your chamber really has a special look, i also want a special look, just on a different way ;)

[AndreiSzasz]

ok :D
i thougt that it was all about diferent perspectives , but i was't realy sure...
i thought i misunderstand something in the book.. so thanks for clearfing me
and..cool concept, i like the way your scene is devoloping :thumbsup: good luck ,
and whaiting to see more :bounce::bounce::bounce:

[johnnymaster]

oh i forgot the other postings:blush:

@ icedeyes: hahaha thanks a lot ;)

@ taavi: not yet i think ;) Btw i've change some subtle things already to make her little less Milla, to suits the Patricia character better, don't want that the real Milla sue me because her digital double is maybe too ugly to her:D

@ Leothril: yeah, maybe i'll animate some water and rain effects, if my time and PC power allows that, but the water on the face is not going to flow, it's too complex and the time is short you know ;)

@ Andrei: yup, i will begin with the work on the environment this weekend, just to have the base modeling on each category, with this i feel better and saver:D

[spire]

What can I say, I really like how you realized the rain effect. Great job!

[nakaikoi]

HOLY CRAP!! I just stopped by your thread for the first time and I am amazed. that water is spectacular. I'm honored to be in the same competition as you. You are on a roll, I cant wait to see more!

[TheSoracle]

It seems that you have amazed just about everyone Linh!

Just for my sake, post how many hours it took for each update. XD Then i can prove my point. :p

Keep up the great work.

- Steven

[Intervain]

ah never mind the hours, bring on more updates I say!!! :thumbsup:

[johnnymaster]

@ spire: thanks a lot ;) I hope i'm able to find a way how to make the environment wet!

@ nakaikoi: thank you for the kind words;) I'll post something next week i think, some other jobs to do at this moment:sad:

@ Steven: at first i want to know your working time:wise: still waiting for your new update my friend hahaha:twisted:

@ Intervain: next week my dear!

[ChewyPixels]

Man, that is really something! Looks fantastic!

I still don't know how you're going to keep this level of detail for your final image, but you're the crazy one...not me. :D

Eagerly waiting your next update. :bounce:

[chaitanyak]

love the way the patricia model is turning out. where exactly does she fit into your scene? one of the ppl flying in the suits like in yr sketch? can't wait to see more of the suit. good job with that wet look :thumbsup:

[johnnymaster]

@ @ Jedi: Thanks! hehee I'll try to keep this detail level, i'm curious for your opinion about my environment;)

@ chaitanyak: Thanks! I'm not sure but i think i've mentioned it already, i'm not going to create the flying-suit scene, but a scene in chamber 6th, when Patricia stands outside her vehicle and look and the unbelievable and abstract environment.

[MacAndre]

the looks great, no critics in the moment. :) keep up your good work... :buttrock:

[JamesMK]

I don't have much to offer here in terms of crits, but I see a lot of impressive things - so, I'm basically curious to see how everything will merge together later on.

Indeed spectacular work so far :thumbsup:

[johnnymaster]

http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/15/11851/11851_1165179317_medium.jpg (http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/15/11851/11851_1165179317_large.jpg)

hello everybody!

quick update, as you can see - a cloth simulation test. Its on a very early stage, so there are some little clipping flaws. I'm going to add seems, little micro wrinkles, zips and pockets etc. later. The Patrica character is fully rigged and animatable. The materials are - of course - not the final ones, just simple phong.

cheers

[TheSoracle]

looks really good linh. Can't wait to see patricia clothed. :D

- Steven

[GonzaloGolpe]

johnny... Master:thumbsup::D

[gringer]

You sir, are insane. You should be working in cg for film.

Cheers :D

[chaitanyak]

great skinning. like the clothes

[krrrk]

wow Linh

looks good allready
micro wrinkles ey, damn you're insane to go for that level of detail
but I don't mind
that's more eyecandy for me
keep it up :thumbsup:

[Intervain]

well I'll reiterate - you are nuts! :twisted: - so cool I really can't wait to see the final result!:bounce:

[Nothingness]

hehe, i called you insane after the previous post, and now everybody says the same :twisted:

i was thinking you were going to model the clothes, but no, you're using simulation! I'd say it's a great start. Are you going to use the simulated one as a model to do some refinements upon, or will you just use it like you'll get it?
And is it done in cinema or XSI ?

i hope i'll finish the patricia body soon so i can start on the clothing as well. I just have to do the feet (not too detailed) and rearange the loops and polys on the back.
untill your next update man

cheers

[ChewyPixels]

Great progress, Linh! Hmm, I would have though you would have modeled her some skin-tight clothes. :shrug: Oh well, can't have everything. :D

Keep on rockin'! :buttrock:

[icedeyes]

Very nice... just one question... how do you avoid getting the cloth passing through the body geometry?.. The only way i managed to do that so far is either by inresing the resolution of the mesh to insane levels of bu increasing the cloth tolerance (or push depending on what program you are using)... I would really like to know your technique... especially how it works when the arm has to come in contact with the rest of the body...

[johnnymaster]

@ Macandre: thanks a lot! Keep your nice work too!;)

@ JamesMK: thanks, in fact, I'm curious too;)

@ steven: hahaha and i thought we guys could wait until a girl is clothed?:twisted:

@ Gonzalo: :cry:

@ gringer: oh thanks, any jobs for me?:p

@ chaitanyak: thanks mate!;)

@ krrrk: hehee, thanks, I'll try to keep the detail level!

@ Intervain: thanks;) "nuts" - "insane" - "crazy" "too much time" - my CG mates are really nice to me:twisted:

@ Nico: heyho, for the clothes i'm using cinema, pretty fast and precise, I'll do some refinements later, now i'm on the boots. You'll get a mail later!

cheers!

@ Jedi: hey mate, don't worry, she would win a wet-shirt-contest! I'm working hard especially on this part:twisted:

@ icedeyes: thanks! Firstly, there isnt any animation in my scene, secondly, the simulation setup is very high to achieve precise results, in addition the clothes has a high poly amount 40.000 - 80.000 polys to avoid clippings and to allow detailed wrinkles.

[acs006]

wow...you're so good at what you're doing! :eek: :drool: :buttrock:
do you work on this all day everyday?
(sorry for the question...im a bit new here)

[Womball]

I was recommended to this thread by Gunilla. You seem to be doing great things with water effect and hair particles. The hair is some of the best I have seen. What software are you using? And how are you creating the ilusion of wetness? Its close to the slime effect I am trying to achieve.

Come on, more images! :bounce:

[thondal]

Hi Linh! Long time. Your model is looking absolutely fantastic. I´ve been a bit sick lately, so havent gotten the time to work on a computer with my mega. But I used the time to think of a new concept of the mega, so.. i will be posting the updates as i progress. But I i´m just stunned with what you have managed to make here.. I mean. WOW!! :eek: Crazyyy stuff!!
Can´t wait for the next update, and the cloth test looks cool. Not sure if i missed it, but any idea on how you are going to finish this one?

-thondal-

[chandro]

Your really good in this! :thumbsup:seems your putting an extra mile with your work!
im wondering where you get much time to do this detailed work?
are presently working in a studio?

[johnnymaster]

@ Womball: thanks a lot! I'm working with xsi and cinema. To achieve the wetness of the hair i've looked at a lot of photo references, wet hair is very sticky and the specular point is very concentrated and bright. Hope i could help a little!

@ thondal: thanks mate! But i'm not sure if i understand your question hahaha, how i'm going to finish my entry or what do you mean?

@ chandro: thanks! I'm not working in a studio, i'm just a young freelancer who is looking for a studio job, but actually i've never applied for one, so now its time, but at first i have to create a good portfolio, and eon is perfect for this;)

[SweD]

at first i have to create a good portfolio haha ! if all of your works are same like this one, i think you'll got no problem to have a great portfolio Linh.
hope you'll find that you want. ;)
Btw, you're cloth test are really interesting. Some new update soon ?

[chandro]

Young artist? and your good! wow! i envy you mate!! i wish ive known 3d earlier!! i learn a lot from your thread:)! keep posting!

[rybeck]

I've not stop by this thread long time and I just found there is some great stuffs going around...
A lot of inspiration I got from your work and I wish you best luck for this contest...


Rybeck

[johnnymaster]

@ cyril: thanks;) i'll post some updates next week! Maybe something of the environment.

@ chandro: I'm glad to hear this, dont worry, there will be lot of updates next week i think!

@ rybeck: thanks a lot for the kind words!

[element5]

Hey there Linh,

came across your thread and had to stay a while and see what you have done....outstanding work my friend. :thumbsup: Really looking forward to more.

Cheers
Mark

[johnnymaster]

http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/15/11851/11851_1165891380_medium.jpg (http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/15/11851/11851_1165891380_large.jpg)

quick update, here are Patricias boots! The design is orientated to worker and motorcycle boots, with bit future.

[johnnymaster]

http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/15/11851/11851_1165891679_medium.jpg (http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/15/11851/11851_1165891679_large.jpg)

i ve create some shaders for the machines for the environment.

[johnnymaster]

http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/15/11851/11851_1165891822_medium.jpg (http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/15/11851/11851_1165891822_large.jpg)

because its very rainy in my final image, every thing is wet, so i ve to create a authentic water effects, here you can see some water test which shows the water falling down from objects.

[johnnymaster]

http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/15/11851/11851_1165892192_medium.jpg (http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/15/11851/11851_1165892192_large.jpg)

here you can see my machine design. I want big, dark and gloomy machine world. Greg Bear descripes theres in the 6h chamber theres a part with strange looking machines, i like this idea a lot, so i want bring this part into my final image.

[johnnymaster]

http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/15/11851/11851_1165892448_medium.jpg (http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/15/11851/11851_1165892448_large.jpg)

here you can see my water effect applied to the machines.

[johnnymaster]

http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/15/11851/11851_1165892607_medium.jpg (http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/15/11851/11851_1165892607_large.jpg)

as you can i ve added more parts to it, some pumping machines which brings a bit organic feeling into my machines design.

[SweD]

wow...it's a huge work on the shader and water effect. On your last picture, shader and light with rainy effect is absolutely credible for me. :thumbsup:
I love the boots, something retro-futuristic style, really noticeable.

[TommyJakobsen]

Hello Linh. I just read through this thread, and I must say that your work is absolutely astonishing beautiful. Can't wait to see more from you in the following days, not to mention the final scene! Keep up the good work.

[johnnymaster]

@ element5: thanks a lot Mark;)

@ SweD: thanks! I'm glad to hear thats the boots look retro future, i aimed on this look, now i've to create a shader for it. This week when my new video card will arrive, i'm going to continue the work on the background. Because my current video card is really poor and the environment has over 0.5 mio. - and thats the beginning - polys already, i've to model with 5 frames per seconds, so it makes so sense and i'm working on the vehicle at this moment.

@ TommyJakobsen: thanks for the kinds words Tommy;)

[ChewyPixels]

Hey Linh. Those machines with shaders look AWESOME! :buttrock:

However, I must confess that the water effect is not working for me. It looks good on Patricia, but not for these. It almost looks like draped plastic wrap hanging down from the machines. IMO, the machines look a lot better without the water effect. I don't know, but have you considered going without the water effect for your scene? You might want to think about that. Perhaps it would help you finish this one on time. :shrug:

As for me, I might not be able to work on my EON entry anytime soon. :sad: Some work has come up to fill my schedule. I hope to continue with this as soon as possible or else I will just have to drop out. :cry:

Anyway, I'm liking your entry very much and I truly hope you can finish this one on time as I would really enjoy seeing this one complete. Good luck!

[dc_00]

:thumbsup: So Good!

[cbernardo]

Men, your work is really insane!! :applause: :applause:

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[eggsrgood]

wow dude. So impressed by your work! Who are you man?! Total inspiration. Hope you win, keep it up. You have quite a fan base now to urge you on. :scream:

[johnnymaster]

@ jedi: thanks a lot for your constructive crits dude! I will improve the rain, because its a must! Its really a important part in my image;) I hope you could continue your work on eon soon!!

@ dc_00: thanks a lot;)

@ dogmatico: thanks:cry:

@ eggsrgood: thanks dude! Who I am? Just a young and poor freelancer;) At this moment i'm a bit unmotivated because my monitor implodes yesterday i'm on a small 17 crt now, too bad, but...:beer:

[AndreiSzasz]

hey mate !
this is great. i was whaiting to see how your scene is gonna look, and now i see : it's just great. those pumping machines are really cool.:thumbsup:
looking forward for more :bounce:

[varma]

Yo Johnny!
"The machine" looks awesome and insanely detailed!
I just love the rain effect and especially your specular work! It's one the best
specular shading work I've seen in CGTalk!
Good luck with your entry!!!
:thumbsup:

[johnnymaster]

http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/15/11851/11851_1166243701_medium.jpg (http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/15/11851/11851_1166243701_large.jpg)

hello everybody,

some improvement on the skin and its lighting. I added GI and Ambient occlusion and did some tweaks on the subsurface scattering. Theres also some improvement on the water shader and the micro hairs on the skin surface. Rendered out in a lot of passes, you can see few passes above.

good night!

[johnnymaster]

@ Andrei: thanks man! I'll check your character more precise after i've slept;)

@ Varma: hey thanks a lot! Good luck to you too, i will follow your thread;)

[ChewyPixels]

Hey Linh. Superb work on the skin and lighting work! :thumbsup:

My only crit right now is that the displacements on the lips look a bit too strong. It probably wouldn't matter in the final image since most likely you are not going to have her face this close.

Also, I would have liked to see a bigger version of the comped image rather than the desaturated one. Maybe later? :)

[johnnymaster]

heyho Jedi,

yeah, the lips........but i have already figure out a technique to solve this problem, on the next update, the skin of the lips will be really translucently and the light will pass through the lips-skin on the flesh part of the lips, at this moment looks a bit too solid.

And sorry, the black and white is only a blow up, next time maybe i will post a bigger render, but more than 1,5h for a preview is a bit too long you know;)

[element5]

WOW! This is great, this thread blows me away. I have no crits I am just here for the ride....woohoo. :thumbsup:

Cheers
Mark

[Intervain]

nice updates :) Just one thing that's simply driving me crazey though - the upper teeth! They look like they're stuck in upper lip - too close to it!
love the watery look :thumbsup:

[rybeck]

Just one thing that's simply driving me crazey though - the upper teeth! They look like they're stuck in upper lip - too close to it!


Linh,

Second on the Teeth... It looks alike she is wearing artificial denture. Other then that, superb update... Keep it up!

Rybeck

[johnnymaster]

@ element5: thanks dude!:cry:

@ Intervain: thanks for this constructive crit, i covered the flaw-area with my finger and the face in overall looks better!:beer: (you like beer?)

@ rybeck: hahaha, yeah....in fact my patricia is over 50, but looks so good thanks to the excessive use of subsurface scattering:twisted:

[Gunilla]

Simply amazing - I wish I could find some useful crits but it's clear you know well what you're doing... so just keep on doing it :)

[Intervain]

@ element5: thanks dude!:cry:

@ Intervain: thanks for this constructive crit, i covered the flaw-area with my finger and the face in overall looks better!:beer: (you like beer?)

@ rybeck: hahaha, yeah....in fact my patricia is over 50, but looks so good thanks to the excessive use of subsurface scattering:twisted:

LOL well I'm more of a whiskey person but I'll partake, thanks :)

And man you should be selling that SSS trick - so many hollywood stars would pay for such face lifts ;)

[johnnymaster]

@ Intervain: whiskey? Nice! Even though i prefer wodka;)

And no, my SSS trick is old...years before i sold it to a guy names M. Jackson, but it doesnt work mysteriously, his nose droped down, bad story...

[mladenr]

ok I just went trough 17 pages of your progress, and I had to shout a few times in amazement, your skill and attention to detail is incredible. The details are amazing, but I'm missing the vehicle in your concept sketch, and I'm missing the big picture of how you will compose all these things together.

I also love the rain effect, I am only hoping that you will have enough time to finish your work at this amazing level. Best of luck to you. :thumbsup:

[icedeyes]

She looks simply stunning... Is she single? LOL... Great work... I really like her and the machines and the watery look... Simply great work...

[alvin-cgi]

Really enjoy your wip, coming together very well, looking to the final!:thumbsup:



ENO (http://forums.cgsociety.org/showthread.php?t=413368)

[arturro]

I have no words :) just can't wait to see it finished... hope you will manage

[AndreiSzasz]

hey mate ! this is getting better and better . can't bealive it
if Pat looked great till now this is ...super great :bounce:...:eek:

i'm now whaiting to see her in the scene.
cheers !

[animalunae]

Nice work! I'll be following your progress closely. The resemblence of your female is uncanny and I must say that the water displacement is really well done! I do think you don't have to cut up the uv's like you do, unless you are texturing in Z or Deeppaint or anything like that ofcourse... In any case, you work hard and it shows, wish I had the time to participate, maybe I should just quit my job for a few months and finish all the personal stuff I've got lined up. Thanks for the inspiration, motivation, smashing work man!

[johnnymaster]

long time since my last reply - sorry!

I'm working hard on the environment right now, it has to be as detailed as the character and due some hardware problems i couldnt render it out completely, i hope this will solve today or tomorrow, so i can make some renders for you guys!

Thanks for your many posts and commendations!

[mladenr]

Looking forward to it.

Keep at it, you're doing great!

[Nothingness]

still no word of the ram?

cheers

[fgdf]

I'm impressed
I'm not sure how do you want to stylish whole image but I think The skin looks kinda "rocky"
You can still improve shader or composition (SSS f.e. maybe AO mixing)
Waiting for next updates
-cheers!

[ChewyPixels]

Hey Linh. C'mon man...only 15 days left! Hurry, we need to see this one finished!

[johnnymaster]

dont worry dude, i have a lot to show, wait until i've picked up my ram on tuesday, then i'm able to render these things out;)

[johnnymaster]

http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/15/11851/11851_1167655706_medium.jpg (http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/15/11851/11851_1167655706_large.jpg)

some vehicle stuff - there are a lot more to show, but wait til next week when i get new RAM. The hardest thing to render are the 10 mio. dirt n dust particles on the surfaces, these dirts arent just shaders, but really volumetric.

[johnnymaster]

http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/15/11851/11851_1167656033_medium.jpg (http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/15/11851/11851_1167656033_large.jpg)

here you go! Some new stuff - in fact, not really new, the process is much more advanced right now, but i have to wait for my new hardware to render these things out, at this moment its impossible to render these things out on my current hardware.
The whole chamber is modeled out completely. My decision was against the using of a landscape generator like Terragen or Vue, because the chambers of eon are very special - cylindrical and artificial, in addition i'm a control freak;) Next time you are going to see the "machine city", with lot of smoke, dark clouds, rain and lightnings. This time you only see the ground and some highways.

In addition i have created a particle system which is freezed, because on the video everything is freezed, so there are no animations at all, except of the camera movement. The particle are created for extremely fast rendertimes, because later there lots of particle effects.

Happy new year!

[GonzaloGolpe]

And in the 7th day, you´ll rest, hehe. Oh man, what an impressive job! I send you extra-energy!:scream: :thumbsup:

[taavi]

Wow!
Amazing indeed.... How are You going to make the final renders? With separate passes? All lights & objects separately?
I'm struggling with this subject right now...

[Nothingness]

just great man,


did you had the time yet to go and get the ram?
cheers and c ya

[johnnymaster]

@ Gonzalo: thanks man! now....by the power of greyskull....i have the power!!!:bounce:

@ Taavi: thanks a lot! I not every objects and lights, i share the scene in groups and render each group with a mask, otherwise its impossible to render all these mio. of polys out. Good luck man!

@ Nico: yo, thanks dude! Got the ram! Have to update my system to win64 because xp doesnt work with 4gb.

[Nothingness]

AHAHHAHAAHHAHAHAAH

o damn,

i read somewhere that win could only handle 2 gig. I even thought it was a joke, but looks like windows it the joke here. I'm installing the windows on the mac pro, and i even read in the licence agreement that you are only allowed to use 2 cpu's. Man those guys suck. I hope all 4 are used, or there is no sence in using the mac pro.

cheers and good luck with finding all the drivers.


cheers

[Leotril]

nice job jhonny .. please can u share some info about rendertimes just to have an idea :wise:

before i got myself into Eon i was working on scene with some models from scifi3d it was in the interior of one of the sets of the death star, anyway the rendertimes got up to 12 hours wit all the lightining and texturin.. im going to get more memery tommorrow hope that helps :sad:


later

[johnnymaster]

@ leo: thanks man, about the rendertime:

each frame - 640px @ 2.35:1 - takes about 25 minutes with millions of polygons and GI on a core 2 duo 2x2,8ghz and 4gb ram. I have to throttle the gi quality down to decrease the rendertime. Good luck!

[Nothingness]

and what about rendertime with the 64-bit version? I thought this was the rendertime on the 32-bit system?

ps. i really hate windows now, the batch render of maya can only use 2 cpu's of the 4 on the mac pro. So rendertimes for me for 1000x666 pixels take about an hour per frame. Luckily it'll increase towards the end cause it's about 105 frames for this render layer.

cheers

[GonzaloGolpe]

....by the power of greyskull....i have the power

LOOL!! long time no hear this sentence,hahaha

[popol]

pffiuu!:eek:

really good job linh! i'm very impressed can you give more information about how you made the landscape ground?
____________
Sorry for my english

[SweD]

Linh always on the run ! i'm really curious to see the finished vehicle, and of course the finished scene.
You've got freat skill in landscape equal to the caracter modeling, it's really interesting to follow your work. :thumbsup:

and of course, wish you an happy new year dude !

[mdavid]

Wow! You sure know your stuff! Thanks for the fantastic information. It is fascinating

[AndreiSzasz]

wow man !
early stage or not your scene looks just great ! i can't whait to see it finished
good luck man , and a happy new year !

[johnnymaster]

http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/15/11851/11851_1167952629_medium.jpg (http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/15/11851/11851_1167952629_large.jpg)

quick update, not finished, i'm on the seams and stitches now!

[johnnymaster]

@ swed: yeahyeah, i know, always on run in case of the vehicle hehehe, but be patient, i'm working on it in the next coming days, the vehicle is the most difficult part, cause of the complex design. Anyway, thanks a lot, good luck further on and happy new year mate!

@ mdavid: thanks a lot!

@ Andrei: thanks! Happy new year too dude, i'll check out your thread later!

[TheSoracle]

eek! double post from update/edit.

[TheSoracle]

Its been forever since I have been here.

Yet again you have proved my two theories Linh :scream:

You have too freaking good and you have WAY too much too XD.

Don't worry, I still love your work. It is too good.... Great job on the work so far, too bad I have been gone so long I could not see all of the updates.

Anyway, keep up the awesome work, time to crack down and WORK!!! The challenge is nearly over!

Happy new year!

- Steven

[TheFirstAngel]

ahahahaha i was freelancing and back now to discover you simply had way too much time ^^ :scream: rofl! yayness weeeee ness and all the nesses i can think off, happy new year and concrats on the sickest 3d job i seen around on the challenge from the beginning ^^ you kept up the level kept up the sickness and i simply cant wait to see it all come together. keep on rocking mate and looking forward to see your final piece man! go go go! :bounce::bounce::bounce:

[leving]

The latest rendering looks great. You did an especially nice job wrinkling the different pieces in order to show through modeling that they are made of different materials. That kind of attention to detail is what makes scenes believeable. Keep it coming man!

[ChewyPixels]

Making a quick stop to your thread. :)

Technically impressive! :bounce:

The oufit isn't really doing it for me, however. I don't know, but those pants remind me of those funky patterned baggy pants that those gym dudes use to wear back in the '80-'90s. :D I think the pants would look better if they didn't have so many small dots. I do like the camouflage though.

Nevertheless, it's one of the better entries here. I hope to see this one finished on time. You can do it Linh! :bounce:

[johnnymaster]

@ Steven: thanks man! Too bad you couldnt continue your work! Anyway, i'm in a big time trouble right now, but at this final phase its always the same, so i expected that.


@ Angel: hehehe, yeah, maybe you r right and i'm going to far this time hahaha, but i'm going to finish this piece, even if i'll land in the hospital after the 15th;)

@ leving: thanks a lot;)

@ jedi: these dots are the hints from the rain droping on the fabric;) thanks and good luck!

[johnnymaster]

http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/15/11851/11851_1168112546_medium.jpg (http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/15/11851/11851_1168112546_large.jpg)

quick update, a close up of the pant!

[Nothingness]

Great detail,

maybe if you have time after the challenge, you could try the 30k render :twisted:

like when you're on a holliday or so HAHHAHAHHA


cheers

[johnnymaster]

http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/15/11851/11851_1168202512_medium.jpg (http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/15/11851/11851_1168202512_large.jpg)

next quick update, Patricias final boots. I've spend lot of time on these pieces. They come with dust and dirts, water and polygonal stitches - rendered with GI.

[XTitan]

Great work, what do you have left to do?

[angel]

Nice work Linh, I can't wait to see what kind of composition you have in mind.

[VietEmotion]

man this is da bomb!! i love your shoe design, and you know i know a lot about shoes, bitch!

btw: greetz from attack, your childhood love:D

[BlackDidThis]

Definately of the most impressive entries yet...

My wife and I simply loved the detail of diret between the tires.
Even though I am not too sure on how much of it will show in the render, I am a firm believer that hard work and attention to details rarely fails in presenting a masterpiece.

Like everybody else I am simply in amazement to the amount of wrok you have put in to a finalising image.

My ONLY comment would be the amount of descriptions that simply are not according to the story... at least not as I would expect from somebody with your attention to such an amount of work.
And well this HAS been covered and you HAD stated that you saw this competition as an oppertunity to do a variaty of things, such as modeling out Mila... to be frankly honest, I think you have done a VERY good job... and I am looking forward to the rest of the developments :thumbsup:.


Black


Ps: I had seen it done before.. but never thought of going for seperating the eyes in the UV lay out (Seam fear)...
Tonight I remodified my completed mesh (suicide) and went for your method.. thanks so much for the heads up.. Lets see if I manage to texture it seamlessly enough :)

[arturro]

oh yes, Mila is sexy, true :drool: your is nearly as good as real one :twisted:
But anyways, your work is unbelievable, what to say more.
You are a PRO and that's it. My congrats!

[johnnymaster]

at first: hey guys, whats that? If you click on submit entry, you see there are 21 days left

how can that be?

edit:

(Mibus:) The cutoff is the end of the 31st of January* (* The deadline has been extended, as we realise that many people are only just returning from Christmas and New Years breaks)

GREAT!!!


@ xtitan: thanks: the vehicle, the whole 6th chamber and some final tweaks on the character!

@ snows: thanks man! You ll see my composition soon!

@ songül: thanks and best regards to moritz:twisted:

@ black: thanks a lot for you detail posting. In fact, with the final rendering i'm not able to capture all the details, because i have create the whole chamber, so the whole work is only visible on the video rendering, on the illustration you can just see the character, the vehicle and a very small spart of the background. I the challenge time is really extended to the 21.01 that would be great!

Good luck on your UVs and the overall project!

@ arturro: thanks a lot hehehe! But i'm not a PRO yet:cry:

[gringer]

So good mate. You're so good.

How long have you been doing CG for?

Cheers :D

[johnnymaster]

thanks mate! Approx. 5 years, i have drawn and painted a lot before i began with 3D.

[thondal]

WOW! Amazing linh! I´m glad I made it as far as i have, but I understand i have a long way to go, before i reach your level. Stunning work i must say.

I´ve been drawing for some years, but stopped some years ago. Never got the real hang of it though, but maybe I should start again... helps the creativity, and it´s a bit fun too.

But again, amazing work. Hope you get it all done untill the deadline, which is now extended. YAY!

-thondal-

[Intervain]

haven't been here awhile and it's great to see you've got some sweet stuff done! Like the boots :) Don't like her clothes but that's just because I hate the colours as well as the patterns... personal preference :)
you're clever you - showing that chamber so sparingly! I is wanting more :curious::twisted::wip:

[johnnymaster]

http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/15/11851/11851_1169031763_medium.jpg (http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/15/11851/11851_1169031763_large.jpg)

just a quick update from the skin, big updates of the environment will follow soon!

[Nothingness]

ah man, this looks awfull

i mean, how can you actually post this stuff.
damn

it doesn't even look like it's 3d. It's way too real to be 3d!
Then why don't you just make a big maquette and do it through photography?
But i think you'll find a camera that can make a 10k image rather expensive,

so maybe i could understand why you do it this way.


anyway, just joking (it's the alcohol kicking in :twisted: )

seen my little last post freund?


aufwiedersehen

[johnnymaster]

http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/15/11851/11851_1169171211_medium.jpg (http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/15/11851/11851_1169171211_large.jpg)

quick update, working on some shaders with wet look, here you see a shader for the roads.

[johnnymaster]

http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/15/11851/11851_1169171324_medium.jpg (http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/15/11851/11851_1169171324_large.jpg)

another quick update, this time with rain and water splashes and a close up of the concrete shader.

[mmoir]

Hey Linh,

Your character work is awesome , really great stuff. :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup: I really am looking forward to the scene that they are going into , the rainy roadway looks cool. Good luck with this.

[arturro]

damn... you're not normal :bounce:
I have no idea how you can achieve such results :) well, when you win you;ll have to write a big making off so I'm waiting for that as well as for you final image.

[Leotril]

nice work on the shader johnny.. im also doing some shader one for the chamber but it not displacing on the big scene with the big chamberwhen i import it.. using renderman the shader was develop in maya.. what render are u using? did u run with this kinda problem ?

[Streen]

Your work is stunning. We can only sit in awe as we hope to see the finished product soon. If the unfinished images are this amazing...I can't wait till the finished project.

[Nothingness]

wowwwwoooooooowww, this looks great!

what is it?




just joking
good you added the detail. I guess you'll see it better in a 10k res. I hope it renders fast enough for the animation.

cheers

[SweD]

just insane ! :scream:

:thumbsup:

[taavi]

Insane-thats the right word..
I just dont comprehend how You manage to render it all in high resolution??
If Uwin' ill excpect high-end tutorial too !! :)
Good luck!
Taavi

[claudiojordao]

Hello johnny, keeping the mystery until the end ahm!? :)
It's all looking great my friend, your work is really really good... but c'mon, hurry up, and show us the all thing.

[johnnymaster]

http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/15/11851/11851_1169236557_medium.jpg (http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/15/11851/11851_1169236557_large.jpg)

here you see a extreme close up of the wet road. The final pic is going to be rendered in 10k (maybe higher), so you ll able to see every details clearly.

[johnnymaster]

THANKS to everybody, sorry i cant reply each of you personally, the deadline is close you know!

@ claudio: Actually, i dont want to keep it mysteriously, but my workflow is a bit chaotic, i m working on a lot of parts, and now, i have to put it all together!

[Intervain]

yes,yes put it all together! :bounce:

looking great [the asphalt feels more like ice to me now :shrug: but still's looking great!] Love the skin closeup!:buttrock:

[johnnymaster]

http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/15/11851/11851_1169696916_medium.jpg (http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/15/11851/11851_1169696916_large.jpg)

quick update: you see here some small spots of the machine city. In the final image in will be a complex landscape full of industry stuff and machines, rain, smoke etc. will added soon;)

[chandro]

wow! truly youre a perfectionist when it comes to details.. just wonderin if your going to rendered this in 8k? if this possible:thumbsup:

[Nothingness]

yow yow yow


looking good. I hope you're gonna have more luck with rendering then me. I'll have to think of something fast or i'm toast. Yesterday while i was at work - as today - i let both comps render the background for the animation. After 13 hours when i got home, not a single frame was finished :banghead: Something seriously wrong with mental ray i maya 8.5.

anyway, i think you start a little open discussion with blackdidthis and that other dude that sead on his thread something about procedurals not being able to get a realistic look.

Since i know you hardly use textures, you are the proof to prove otherwise.


cheers and see ya tomorrow or something

[johnnymaster]

@ Intervain: yeah youre right - as always:cool: looks a bit like ice, i'll better this out, thanks!

@ chandro: thanks! Its gonna be 10k actually;)

@ Nico: thanks dude! Open discussion? I have no time for such things hahahaa, they can say what they want to - 90% of my textures are created by procedurals and it works quiet well;)

[BlackDidThis]

...
anyway, i think you start a little open discussion with blackdidthis and that other dude that sead on his thread something about procedurals not being able to get a realistic look.
...
Firstly...
Linh (http://forums.cgsociety.org/member.php?u=244686) I am VERY, VERY sorry for spamming your thread for my own reply...

But I have to state that I have not said anything such in my thread...
Please take the time to better read the post Nico (http://forums.cgsociety.org/member.php?u=116379).
I stated that I had problems and that it was VERY bad news, since those very shaders were most of my shaders for Thistledown.

The other person you are reffering to must be Tim (http://forums.cgsociety.org/member.php?u=11197).
At the moment he is having some expectable difficulties with his texturing from fast/simple solutions


That said...
Your work is amazing and very inspiring.. even though it is a big puzzle for us to be able to put together, each and every puzzle piece has it's own attraction.

As for your textures... I know very few that have made to such quality with procedurals. I think I am an in-between man; hence I use as many file textures as procedurals.
And the discussion... there is NO discussion... there is only experience and personalities.


BEST of luck...
I am growing very curious of what is to pop out of this thread!


Black

[Nothingness]

yeah, well, i misread and formulated my statement wrongly!
sorry for that. Shi[ happens when you get disturbed during sleep.
so chear up and let's keep this challenge fun. I just don't like
agressive posts.

best to just ignore me!
call me a malfunctioning dmap if you must!


ps. Linh, are you gonna add the rain effect - the thing with the cloth - to this part too? Or do you think it would be an overkill? Depending on the way your previous object and this one comes together, it might be needed.

and sorry for the reactions (that's why i don't drink coffee) i hope i will be ignored after this.

cheers

[johnnymaster]

@ Black and Nico:

no problem, keep cool, the time is short, the deadline is close - we better work:bounce:


about the rain: yeah i try to add another quicker method to the background objects, we ll see;)

[Toverdoos]

:hmm: wow, your eye for detail.. very very impressive.
Haven't seen all the other threads yet, but I must say.. I'll certainly track this one.

Furthermore I've really been able to learn some things all the way through your process, thanks. Next to that, your process looks very clean, no comments on that and I'm sure you'll make the deadline!

Good luck for the latest pieces, cheers
Nils

[LiZhu]

This is very good.The nice details and Rain looks very real.The parts of construction also impressional .Good luck,I hope the next update.

[VietEmotion]

man the building looks awesome, like some of these in final fantasy 7, very cool:D

btw: i hate you:D brother stop being so good!

[johnnymaster]

http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/15/11851/11851_1170071566_medium.jpg (http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/15/11851/11851_1170071566_large.jpg)

quick update: unfished but nearly complete, i have to add lot of objects which are finished but not added to the vehicle yet, then working on some shaders.

[johnnymaster]

http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/15/11851/11851_1170197674_medium.jpg (http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/15/11851/11851_1170197674_large.jpg)

quick update: here you see the foreground, the boxes von the road stands for patricia and her vehicle, in the background (not rendered yet) you are going to see the chamber with machines etc.

[Nothingness]

these already rendered at 10K ? How about the detail?

hope you have enough time left for the animation man.

cheers

[johnnymaster]

no dude, just a cheap preview without details and lights, 3 minutes rendertime:twisted:

[Nothingness]

oh, godthanks for that

i was almost gonna post it sucked :twisted:

weren't ya gonna try the spherical perspective to create a super panorame?

looking at the main contruction in the front, it's alright. But then the objects look a little too misformed. Not really perspective. It might come out less obvious, but are you planning anything for that?

aufwiedersehen

[johnnymaster]

no not really, this distortions are natural if you are using short focus lenghts, its a must, otherwise i cant cover all the models into one shot you know...

the final scene will be covered from hundred thousands of plants, vines, dirts and stones, this is just a simple rendertest;)

[Nothingness]

true,

but with a real lens and a short focal distance, you get more bended lines instead of sheared ones. I know it's not easy to do, and i woudn't want to try it in maya, but maybe c4d has an easy way or so.

Nevertheless, it will be awsome man.

just trying to help

[johnnymaster]

http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/15/11851/11851_1170220835_medium.jpg (http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/15/11851/11851_1170220835_large.jpg)

here you see the final format of my entry, its extremely wide, but i need this to show all the stuff i ve done. And sorry for the stupid question marks, but i have to put it all together right now.

[Nothingness]

starting to look sweet with al the vegitation man.
how many pixels high were you gonna render this in?
i hope patricia will have enough detail cause it would
be a shame to loose al the detailed work you've put
into it.

cheers

[Intervain]

Hard to tell what's what really with the small render - looking forward to the big picture :scream: Hope all that hard work and detail you've put into the character will not be lost here!

[taavi]

Hope that You manage to finish it soon!

This is a really great entry at it would be a real loss if You cannot finish it before deadline...

[GonzaloGolpe]

Hey!where´s the wonderful finished piece, eh??!!:scream:

Come on!!:applause: :applause:

[johnnymaster]

http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/15/11851/11851_1170284351_medium.jpg (http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/15/11851/11851_1170284351_large.jpg)

no idea if i could manage this piece on time, but here you see the layers...

[johnnymaster]

http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/15/11851/11851_1170284630_medium.jpg (http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/15/11851/11851_1170284630_large.jpg)

a close up of the cloud particles.

[johnnymaster]

http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/15/11851/11851_1170284742_medium.jpg (http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/15/11851/11851_1170284742_large.jpg)

...but without vehicle and patricia.

[vmulligan]

...but without vehicle and patricia.

If Eon were to be made into a movie, actors would play the characters, and CGI would be used for the settings. I think it was a good idea on your part to focus on the setting instead of on rendering the character. The image looks very impressive. Congratulations!

[johnnymaster]

vmulligan: hey thanks and sorry, the rest will follow, its not final yet;)

[johnnymaster]

After some upload troubles i were going upload my entry, but "challenge is closed":beer:

[Nothingness]

AAARRRRGGGHHHHH


man, this is what you get when working too tightly to the deadline man.
Did you even got the animation finished?

You can always get it finished and post it at the 3d stills. And get it in your portfolio or so.
Would be a waste to let all the 4 months of work go to waste.

i feared for the scenario.


but great entry non the less.

cheers

[SweD]

Argh..uuuh...Linh...
As Nico said, you can post in 3d still but...pfff..3 month challenge and upload troubles at the last day...it really really sucks man.
Anyway, you're a great modeler/texturer, and i'll sure we will see soon that you're a great animator.

I particulary love your work on details from scratch, and this entry stay one of the best here for me.

respect man.

cheers.

[chandro]

Hi JohnnyM,

i hope youll still finish your project.. ive been looking forward for that.





My Eon Project (http://forums.cgsociety.org/showthread.php?f=214&t=419296&page=5)

[arturro]

That would be a waste if a front runner won't be there at finish. I'm sure they will talk it over and you'll be there. So have everything done and ready! I'm counting on you. Really pro results.
My congratulations:thumbsup:

[Intervain]

sheesh! NO WAY!! You have to be in :love: Well I'm still looking forward to the final image regardless! It's been fun following your thread and I hope you won't give up now and will post it!:thumbsup:

[johnnymaster]

hey...thanks for the great support, i wont give up, i mean, the stuff were finished already, but where the hell should i uploaded it? Mibus said in the FAQ that the server are 12 - 24h open after deadline, but i still cant uploaded it, maybe i should send them via e-mail??

[johnnymaster]

i have contacted Mibus via mail, so maybe there is a little, little chance because the 24h after deadline is not over yet, that would be great, if not then i will try to post the works in this thread.

And a big thank to Vietemotion who helped me to transfer my video file into flv, because the riva encoder put out weird green videos!

[taavi]

Uuuh, let us know how will U submit your pic and animation!!
I am just finishing my animation and i'd like to upload mine asap too!

[johnnymaster]

i send it directly to mibus hahahaa, i hope he will not be too angry about this:blush: i tried the whole day to find another way but everything is closed.

[taavi]

Well, i did the same :)

[taavi]

Can U upload your animation somewhere and share a link?

[johnnymaster]

yeah:beer: so lets hope it works! I'm curious to see your final work!

[johnnymaster]

okay i going to upload it, will take some minutes!

[johnnymaster]

sorry for the poor video, but its not a presentation, just a simple kamera movement to prove that everything is 3d. On this video 2 shots are covered with strange white lines, these lines are from the composition software, i forgot to blend them out:banghead::blush: too stupid and in rush.

video (http://thebladegame.de/bilder/eon.flv)

http://thebladegame.de/bilder/eonpic.jpg

[VietEmotion]

yeah man you sucks ass, attack would love you:D

[taavi]

Quite huge pic :) Deadly mount of details ;)

Ps. the video is not playing.. at least im my laptop. I guess that tle .fla is not a stand-alone movie. It needs some some kind of embedded flash player too, i guess.

my mov:
http://smilegroup.ee/taavi/eon2compress.mov

my lores flash:
http://smilegroup.ee/taavi/eon_torim.swf

[arturro]

respect, what to say :) hope you will join the rest of us

[TheFirstAngel]

cross fgingers mate! i knew what desaster the ftp failed 3 times and my upload must have been done on the very last second of the timer. crossfingers mibus opens the gate for you, kick ass work as i said earlier and best of luck mate on the finals, where your work for sure belongs.
cheers

[AndreiSzasz]

maaaannn tha's a huge scene !:banghead:
i can't bealive it didn't reach the dead line... but hope it will get in somehow

great job mate!:buttrock:

wish you the best of luck !

[taavi]

I received a mail from Mibus-i was late for uploading the stuff-so i am out now. How about U?

[johnnymaster]

@ taavi: cool, me too!:twisted: Shake hands! I hope you are not too depressive about this...:hmm:

@ andrei: thanks man, too bad i'm out, but i wish you best luck mate, one of my top favourites here!

@ angel: thx dude, i wish you best luck for your great illu!

@ arturro: thanks man! I hope you win something, also ohne of my few favourites!

@ intervain: i'm not in :love:actually hahaha, but maybe too lazy sometimes:wise:


big thanks for the great support here! Of course I'm sad that I'm not in, but in a way I'm also very happy now, no deadlines, no stress and finally concact to other humanoid creatures again, after 4month:bounce:

Actually, a hate my entry, i cant see this face and this car anymore, spends too much time with them;)

But through this challenge i met some nice people and got a opportunity for some jobs, so its not that bad as it seems.

Good luck and see you all later with my upcoming works!

[SweD]

good philosophie and good new for your jobs opportunities :)

i hope to see you around here and there Linh.

[ChewyPixels]

Hey Linh. It looks like over-ambitious detail is what hurt you in the end. That's some CRAZY detail you have there! :D But no worries. I also didn't submit my entry in time. Too many problems trying to convert my .avi into .flv. The good news is that I now know what the problem was. It appears that you can't convert an uncompressed .avi into .flv. Yeah, pretty silly. :shrug: Live and learn.

Anyway, great news about the job prospects. I also had a couple interested parties. Maybe something good will come from that. :) Let's wish each other good luck. :beer:

Will you be in for the next challenge? I can't guarantee that I'll be there, but I definitely will be watching. Peace! :buttrock:

[johnnymaster]

@ swed: thanks man, and hope you are going to get something for your entry;)

@ jedi: yeah, the over-ambition was a part, another was, in the last 2 weeks i have to do a some other freelance jobs, the last days was very hard, but now i'm happy that its over.

And yeah, the convertion process was terrible, finally, i have to send the file to Vietemotion who is convert my video file to flv.

Anyway, I dont thing i'll join the next Challenge, because i hope for a studio job in the next coming months and a challenge takes a lot of time as you know.

See you later, i'm curious to see your upcoming works mate!

[taavi]

Good luck with the job! What is the task?

[bearfoot]

hey linh


you did some really great work on this thread - good luck with your future projects.

cheers

[nwiz25]

knockout details Linh! :eek: :scream::scream:

the extreme to be exact! :eek:

really sorry u didnt make it man :cry: ur first concept update blew my mind! :eek:

may god bless u with the very best for the future!! take care buddy!

[Intervain]

Aww - shame!!! Well no matter, I'm sure you've learned tons from that work and it will only be for the best in the end! I've enjoyed following the thread for sure! Looking forward to more from ya and GOOD LUCK with the job hunt :thumbsup::love:

[animalunae]

I think you have to step back and look from a distance first, the details are all very nice, but the complete picture is messy, chaotic and doesn't show any of the detail, since there's no real clear lighting, you need contrast to show off the detail, I also think your screen callibration is way too clear, because on my screens (studio callibrated) it pretty much shows all black.

I've been writing quite a bit of conventions these days for the next project, and your work reminds me of something I've been stressing a lot in those docs. You cannot start something by it's detail, you have to start with a global design of your set, the global lighting, the colors which you want to use, then gradually increase detail on them...

You do good work, but your approach needs to change, try beginning with color keys and blocking, then general lighting tests, etc... Work on composition and concept, make sure your lighting sells the image... keep it up!

[johnnymaster]

@ Intervain: thanks a lot! Yeah, your right, i've learnt a lot due the challenge, could improved a lot of things - except of my poor english;)
I have to recognize, i'm a fan of your work:wise: i will keep an eye out for new works:beer:


@ derbyQsalano: at first, thanks for taking the time to make such a nice and detailed posting. And i agree, you are definitely right. I dont need to step back to see the flaws;)

I'm absolutely not satisfied with the final pic, but the character and the vehicle is not to bad, if i would present them each apart. But of course thats not a apologize for the poor overall picture. Because i was so lazy the days before, i had to create the background in 3 days and 1 day to put it all togheter in panic and rush - that are the reasons, but i think i will take some time and re-render the models, thanks once more!

[animalunae]

You certainly have the right attitude, the ability to see your flaws and evaluate every crit you get is a good thing in this line of work. I do agree that the character and the car look wicked, why don't you do something else with it? Try a composition with your female in the foreground and the car in the background, even further back you could use your foilage. You could also replace your objects with proxies, lowpoly simple grey shaded objects, to test lighting, get some backlighting, maybe some very saturated colours, depending on what kind of mood... In any case, I'll be looking forward to more work from you!

[Nothingness]

not to mention your background of the city :twisted:

how much time did you spend on that? Too bad you can't even see it. How about posting a pic of the city itself huh?


cheers mate

[dave247]

I'm mainly replying to subscribe to this thread.

I can't believe your level of quality in your work. I mean, the modeling the face so well is one thing, but you employ so many small details like it's no big thing. I have trouble making shaders look good.

Are you using Maya for all of this?

Also, I just wanted to say something about the latest composition where you have the girl standing in the scene: It doesnt look as good as it should. I just mean that all your wip pics look so good but when you have them all together there is a lot of loss for quality. Example: milla doesnt even look near as close to her as she did in your first progress shots. But I remember you saying that you didnt want to have photo textures, so I can understand that. Also, I am sure you know what you are doing and you're going to revise the shot WAY more. So I'll shut up.

Awesome work btw!

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