Eon (Illustration) Entry: Sabrina Bott

[Zapan]

Your progress is just insane !! :eek: ...

nothing to add ... I just can't wait for more ... will check in a couple of hours for a new awesome character ...

Have great evening/day Sabie ... :wavey:

cheers ,

-Steph

[mdavid]

The Patricia head is just amazing. Wonderful work. It shows me how much I have to learn! Keep up the fantastic work.

[daWinky]

Good Morning!

Very good at this point... I'm a bit speechless... just imagine her with hairs (and details needed) and good lighting... yep yep Morning Lolo,thanks and you're speechless? That's not good, I need the advices ...For a close-up she'll certainly needs more work, but I first look to get a more precise concept and the other scene elements...I just have 2 heads atm:scream:...
can anyone read my mind and write cuz my hand and mouth can`t move after seeing such beauty art lol u are doing great job sabie keep going
Ah, I see you like her, Tony, thanks for the "keep going"...:)
Hair in Max is generally a pain and gets really scary when you want dynamics on it. But sure you can get a nice result with Patricia if you don’t have any fancy ideas (like princes Leah in Star Wars ore something ). If all things fail we are aloud to paint hair in Photoshop this time. Two things I notice though… The Eyes are quite a bit on the bright brown side and don’t quite fit in with the rest. And you are getting some funny lighting in her nostrils.Maybe the edge inn there is to sharp? Morning Per, thanks for your comment, some good points... and the option to paint hair in PS is not the worst if I look at my max-internal hair so far ...The eye-color is intentional, but perhaps a bit to bright, you're right, I try to darken them...the nose-problem is of course not intentional and I've already used all the common tricks to get rid of the unwanted light, with no effect but I'm sure I'll solve this in the next 10 weeks:banghead: ...

She is really beautiful, what photos did you use this time, your own? We know it can't be Lolo this time, right? Morning Gunie, glad that you like her! Photo references I used only for the hair shadow and the mouth so far...so she's totally a product of my imagination:wise: ...
oO' °...."ah oué quand meme" (in french in the text )
What technics did you use for mapping, uv map unfolding ? (sorry if it's yet said, i've not read all ...too long english texts give me headache Hey Cyril, I'm not sure, but I guess your comment is positive:D !? Thanks and for the mapping I just put a cylindrical uv-map on the head and then used pelt mapping and a lot of pushing and tweaking to get a map I can paint on...

Hehe, Tony again, I can asure you that it is no selfportrait...beside of the dark eye shadows, I haven't much sleep these days:scream: ...

Your progress is just insane !! ...nothing to add ... I just can't wait for more ... will check in a couple of hours for a new awesome character ...
Wheee Steph, so glad that you're still around and thanks for your nice comment ! Not much updating today, I just try to solve some of the more technical problems...And I've heard you're teaching max now! So I know now someone to ask all my silly questions:twisted: ...

The Patricia head is just amazing. Wonderful work. It shows me how much I have to learn! Keep up the fantastic work.Thanks a lot for this nice comment:) ...


One part of the night I spent with the attempt to attach some bodyparts to Patricia's head, just to discover that I'm not able to get my MR skin-shader working as a multi/sub-Object material:sad: ...I'm totally annoyed and if someone knows a good workaround for this I w'd be happy to hear it...
and also if someone had found a description of Patricia where she's wearing something else then this blue overall, I'm a little helpless to let her look good in such clothes:shrug: ...


-sabrina

[soapy]

Incredible work on the Patricia head. Great job. :-)

[Lemog]

Morning Sabie...

just sorry you find my comment a bit poor... I can explain...

I saw as many of us it remain much details to do and to fix... but usually, for me or other people here, at this step of work, it's not very good and beautiful, and the feeling quiete disturbing... but in this case, in your case, I found patricia's head already very beautiful and pleasant... that's appear very great for me... I'm very impress by that... and I imagine easily how again better that could be when the missing details will be here.

I wish you to find the solution about your prob... just sorry to don't know max and to don't be able to help you... but I'm sure someones could give you the solution today... I cross my fingers :)

[TheFirstAngel]

as for the hair, since my own machine lacks a bit of power at the moment you still can wok with layerhair and create a loose ponytail, thats the hairstyling i chose for my 3d scene version and i think that's the easiest way to go... second solution is still, create mainstrands, use both, layerhair and hairfx/shave&ahaircut whatever hairplugin but try to plan te level of detail, more than 1 character with full res hair takes huge rendertimes, thinking of my own attemp a while back when i tried 13000 strands and was goin mad :p more hair, more pain....
and, weeee, of course she looks great. no crits so far since i know your skills and early wip in your case already means awesomeness ^^ keep on rocking! :beer::buttrock::wip:

[Try]

One part of the night I spent with the attempt to attach some bodyparts to Patricia's head, just to discover that I'm not able to get my MR skin-shader working as a multi/sub-Object material:sad: ...I'm totally annoyed and if someone knows a good workaround for this I w'd be happy to hear it...
and also if someone had found a description of Patricia where she's wearing something else then this blue overall, I'm a little helpless to let her look good in such clothes:shrug: ...

-sabrina

Ah... multisub material with MR sub scatter skin.
I’ve had a few wrestle matches with that nasty little monster my self.
I lost every time!:sad:

It just messes up the settings of the SSS fore some stupid reason.


So if you don’t get any splendid workaround advise from anyone here.
Don’t go there my dear!


About the jumpsuit… It doesn’t have to be dull I think if you do some nice design on it.
Could be cut in some interesting way, have little pockets all over the place and be many shades of blue.
Or it could be more like a cat suit (which I would prefer:) ).
As long as it doesn’t look like the overall of a dirty old car mechanic, it will be good I’m sure.

[Grin3d]

hello sabrina - you have such a great progres here; will spent more time soon to see exactly what I missed the last weeks.

roman.

[Greatto]

hello Sabrina....
beautiful texture on her lips, and bumps, but her eyes are not expressive...
I' want ask about her hair , but Try is already asked you :)
I think she will looks amazingly, with hair. great progress.....
good luck... see you soon(I hope) :)

[daWinky]

Hey Jim, thanks for your visit and comment, always much appreciated!!:)


Lolo, ah of course, I understand...and I'm glad to impress you:blush: (http://forums.cgsociety.org/misc.php?do=getsmilies&wysiwyg=1&forumid=0#), so I'm waiting for advices if it comes to more detailing, always so good to have you around here:love: !

Hey Sacha, thank you for the good hints:) , I'll keep this in mind for later...I try to not think about the hair atm...I've just used the max hair-fx for some fur and such stuff and I'll need a crash course when I come to the hairstyling:scream: ...but right now I want to get the characters done at this level of detail and finally decide about the scene elements I need..., it's not easy to plan my spare time for this and I don't want to run out of time in the end!

Ah Per, you're saving my life...mh, ok, at least my evening:) , I was just about to start the next tests with the multisub material...now I look for another solution, thanks for saving me from this frustration:love: ! And for Patricia's "jumpsuit", when you use this word instead of "overall" it already sounds much more promising...I see what I can do, thanks again!

Hey Roman, nice to see you here for a visit and I'm looking forward to see more of you and your scene during the next weeks!:)

Hi Timur, huh, you think her eyes are not expressive? Now I'm alarmed:curious: (http://forums.cgsociety.org/misc.php?do=getsmilies&wysiwyg=1&forumid=0#), I thought they are quite ok for this stage, of course more work is needed for a close-up, but now I'll give them some extra attention...thanks for your visit and the critic!:)

Wish you all a nice evening!

-sabrina

[nwiz25]

hey Sabrina! .. u said u had some problem with the mr skin - shader as multi-sub object material ?? ...

wat exactly is the problem .. coz i've used it lately in one of my characters, it works ok ...


lemme kno wat it is .. i might be able to help u out :P


overall .. ur model is really good! ... just tweak around with the expressions .. :D

even lighting changes the entire look in an instant ... u can do one thing ... u must've already decided the lighting setup for patricia .. like colours most importantly! ... light the model at the very first stage to give u an idea how the skin shader will react to such an environment ... otherwise .. if u work now on the shader n then the lighting .. u'll certainly end up tweaking the shader more n more to suit the new lighting setup ...

pls let me kno if u need to clear anything else .. :p

cheers dear! :beer:

[Greatto]

Hi, thanks for wishes...
I'm really glad to hear that you pay attention yo my opinion . :)
I hope see your update soon, and see her very expressive eyes, maybe you have to add refections...
good luck....

[daWinky]

Morning Neville...

the MR skin shader works for you in the slot of a muti/-sub object material the same way it works when you put it directly on your object:eek: ??? Are you sure? The light scattering is very different for me:shrug: ...Meanwhile I learned that MR doesn't support the multi/-sub object material, there are also some long threads about this problem in the forum...so I suppose it just can not work without messing around in the mi. files...Now I'm very curious to know how you make this:bounce: !

-sabrina

[nwiz25]

Morning Neville...

the MR skin shader works for you in the slot of a muti/-sub object material the same way it works when you put it directly on your object:eek: ??? Are you sure? The light scattering is very different for me:shrug: ...Meanwhile I learned that MR doesn't support the multi/-sub object material, there are also some long threads about this problem in the forum...so I suppose it just can not work without messing around in the mi. files...Now I'm very curious to know how you make this:bounce: !

-sabrina


a very good morning to you Sabrina! :p
well um ... i use the fast skin shader ... n i assign material IDs to the various body parts ...
the problem i faced in all this was that the skin shader took up a lot of memory .. mainly bcoz i had so many of them assigned to different parts ... major overload ... :cry:
i then switch the renderer to default scanline and made lil adjustments ... although i cant c wats happening coz its a mental ray shader .. so .. i could only c the changes in the material when i switch it back to the mental ray renderer ... believe me ... it was a nightmare! :cry:

hope u get around all this ... ( i kno u will :p ) ...

wishing u da very best of luck! :thumbsup:

cheers dear! :beer:

[daWinky]

Thanks for the quick reply Neville, and maybe I'm a little stupid:sad: , but I don't even know why you are switching to scanline...I'm quite sure we are not talking about the same problem:D , but meanwhile I found a solution where no multi/-sub object material is needed (at least I hope so). Thanks anyways for being so kind to answer and taking your time for this:thumbsup: , very much appreciated!

Have a nice day!

-sabrina

[daWinky]

http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/14/11748/11748_1162969763_medium.jpg (http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/14/11748/11748_1162969763_large.jpg)

A first simple body and outfit for Patricia...
refining the rough hands, unwrapping and rigging are the next steps...and not to forget that Lanier needs the same...

[Lemog]

Morning Sabie...

glad to hear you fix your prob... and another congrats for the new work very well done... of course, it's always possible to crit the body shape... only because some parts are not perfect, not because it's wrong, but more because it's not as a perfect model woman... she's alive now... and she's not perfect, as the most part of the people on earth, it's the reason why we're all different and why we have all our own feeling and taste.

Be sure, she's a beautiful woman, very real... it's the most important... you're doing an incredible work on this challenge Sabie... continue like that, the team is always here to push you :)

Nice creative day for you...

[nwiz25]

very happy to help Sabrina! :love: n hey! dont say that! :eek:
no one is stupid in any way :eek: .. actually the thing is, i had to switch to scanline renderer mainly bcoz the materials update faster ... since i've been using a lot of skin shaders n all .. mental ray takes a long time to display them in the material editor ... thats y the switchy switch :D ...

me very happy u sorted out ur problem :bounce: ... n now seeing ur latest update .. :eek: she's really beautiful! very eager to c her in full form! :P

do let me kno if u need to clarify anything .. im there! :P

cheers girl! :beer:

god bless!

[Hideyoshi]

Wunderbare Arbeit soweit! :)

[TheFirstAngel]

grat progress, congrats on having modelled a very natural and nice young woman. hehe bout the pain of unwrapping (blöd, genau), keep in your ming the texturing thanks that (dankeschön für blödes uvw geschiebe) work with the pure fun of it (juhuuu, mal mal:arteest: ) :) so keep it up Sabie, looking great. great great work! keep on rocking! :beer::buttrock::wip:

[Ivy00]

I have not seen a description of Patricia wearing anything else besides a jump suit, the most detailed descriptions of her in the book are when she is introduced ( mostly face features description) and also I believe (not sure on this though) when she meets Lanier, I think the book goes into a bit of body description there.

As for hair, two descriptions of her hair in the book stick out in my mind, one it is parted down the middle with two braids, the other it is disheveled. I don't know how hard it is to render braids in 3d , but just something you might want to check in the book to see if it can be doable for you.

Your Patricia is looking very good, can't wait to see your entry progress :)

[Greatto]

http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/14/11748/11748_1162807852_medium.jpg (http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/14/11748/11748_1162807852_large.jpg)




Hello, just saw that you fix above her lips...

Great body modeling (again and I think always i'll tell tou that you are too fast :) )
But i think the bump on her body bit chaotic, I ment that her pleat on clothes are not correctly. I think if you you'll fix this her body will be perfect :)

http://photofile.ru/photo/timlank/2079331/38545553.jpg


can you show her hands in close up?
thanks...

Good Luck :)

[Gunilla]

you're doing an incredible work on this challenge Sabie... continue like that, the team is always here to push you :)


Quoted for agreement :)

She's looking fantastic - and as the rest says, very natural.
About the Multi/sub and SSS - I'm with a similar problem with blend... it seems SSS doesn't want to mix with other methods, something I found out during the Spectacular challenge when I tried to give it transparency... ah well, I'm glad to hear you've found a workaround for it.

have a nice day!

[OZ]

WOW! very realistic character!!! i admire your work on it! im so in troble with this side of challnge! Brilliant work!

-OZ-

[daWinky]

... of course, it's always possible to crit the body shape... only because some parts are not perfect, not because it's wrong, but more because it's not as a perfect model woman... she's alive now... and she's not perfect, as the most part of the people on earth, it's the reason why we're all different and why we have all our own feeling and taste.
Be sure, she's a beautiful woman, very real... it's the most important...
Hey Lolo, I already thought how to explain that she has not the perfect female shape, but I see you understand that she's not supposed to be a super-model and I'm proud that you call her "alive"!:) ... you're doing an incredible work on this challenge Sabie... continue like that, the team is always here to push you ...Ah, that's so good to hear:love: , thank you!


Hey Neville, thanks again for your offer of help and of course I'm glad that you like Patricia:) ...


Wunderbare Arbeit soweit! Hallo Lorenz, oh, das ist schön zu hören! Danke Dir für Deinen Besuch! And I hope to see your own thread updated soon...:)

Hey Sacha, thanks for your cheerful comment ! And I would love to start with the texture painting, but unfortunately some vertex pushing and weighting first...(I'm not sure what is more annoying : unwrapping or rigging? :banghead: )


Hi Linda, ah, this is very helpful! Well, I finally accepted to give her a jumpsuit, I hope to make it look a little more pleasant then the current stage...and I remember the description with the braids, I think I can give this a try, or perhaps a ponytail...and if everything fails I can certainly make something disheveled:D ...Thanks for your visit and the good hint !


Hey Timur...and you are certainly too fast with your wish of folds and creases, this is just the first modeling step and of course her posing is not final - this would look pretty funny, not:scream: ?... So you need to be patient until I finished the more boring part, and then I promise you some nice pleats...as you can see (or not see) the hands are very rough atm, but I can show a close-up later when I refine them! Thanks for your continued support ...


Hey Gunie, thanks for the great motivation:love: ! And glad to hear that you also prefer a "natural" Patricia ! And yes, the shader problems are certainly the result of the bad connection between Max and MR, meanwhile I found some other unpleasant surprises...my poor work around so far is just to not attach anything to the head:shrug: and I've already discovered that I'll have a lot more work with the rigging this way!


Hi Fabio, thanks a lot for your nice words:) , and don't be unpatient with your own work, you're doing very well!



-sabrina

[ChewyPixels]

Haven't dropped by in a while. WOW! Really great work you have done on Patricia. I hope I can do her just justice when I get to modeling her. I really like your's very much. :thumbsup:

As far as I can see, she doesn't seem to have any problems at this point except for one...camel-toe! :eek: If you can fix this, and possibly go with some of Greatto's suggestions, she'll be perfect. :)

[Greatto]

hello. yes maybe you right, I have to be more patient... I'll wait for update, that you promise :)
Good Luck :)

[mdavid]

Once again, superb work. I'm also in favour of that beautiful natural look instead of the supermodel look. It makes her look like she actually exists, and that will surely make the final image more believable. Bravo!

[thebest]

cool body I have an idea for the texture maybe make a badge with the letters "eon" lol
just an idea and keep going

[Garde]

Very nice work:thumbsup: and - as been pointed out by many already - she looks very natural. If EON was ever made to a movie, I would like to see Patricia like this in it. Rather than a Starship Troopers kind of good looking / bad acting cast... I did like Starship Troopers though, as a satire that is. I don't mean that your Patricia doesn't look beautiful but she also looks like she could really be a mathematician.

I imagined Patricia a little bit thinner and less muscular 'cause Lanier thought her to look impractical (or something like that, can't remember exactly). But that's totally irrelevant.

Keep goin' and good luck, Sabrina!:)

[Nothingness]

great work sabrina!

you really are getting much further than me. And you're not even in the model section :banghead:

anyway, great style and character. It sure has its own expression and all.
i just called the store to check on my computer and seems that after a week the logicboard hasn't arrived yet. So there also was a problem with my wirefire and so the whole motherboard plus cooling system (i think) gets replaced :argh: :banghead:

cheers and GL

[daWinky]

Good Morning...

and sorry for the late reply, just too much other work atm...

As far as I can see, she doesn't seem to have any problems at this point except for one...camel-toe! Hey Jesus, camel-toe:scream: ...!? I'm not sure what you're talking about, her shoes? Have another look at the wire, atm she has some simple sport-shoes, but perhaps your're right, I'm already thinking of some higher boots... Thanks for your support!

Hi Timur, hehe, I'm unpatient myself and your suggestions are not bad at all:) ...I just need more time! So stay tuned and I hope in the end you'll be satisfied with the outcome! See you!


Hey Mark, thanks for the praise, glad to hear that you like her so far!

cool body I have an idea for the texture maybe make a badge with the letters "eon" lol just an idea and keep going Hello Tony...mmhhh, perhaps not EON, but a nameplate and a logo on the suit are for sure good ideas:) ! Thank you, Tony!

Hey Kari, nice to see you here for a visit and thank you for the kind comment:) ...as far as I remember Patricias hips are described as a little to wide for her size and it's mentioned that she like some training on a bicycle, maybe I've made a little too much, but fortunately a diet in cg-world is qick and easy:D , so I can adjust this later if she really turns out too fat in her final posing!


Hey Nico, somehow I don't have the feeling of much progress here at the moment, hopefully better next week...but so annoying for you that you still have to wait for your hardware, I cross my fingers that the next week is also better for you! Thanks for dropping by:) !


I still have a lot of things on my desk to be made before the weekend, but I hope that I can at least rig Patricia today for a small update...

Have all a nice day!

-sabrina

[black-hand-77]

http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/14/11748/11748_1162474460_medium.jpg (http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/14/11748/11748_1162474460_large.jpg)

Patricia's head with a basic texture, skin is still very plastic-like...
For my taste she's too round and "sweet" atm, so I try to work out the bone-structure a bit more, give her some more character...

-sabrina

She surely looks sweet, but I think you can dissolve the sweetiness by adding more textures; darkening the eye orbits' skin, colouring the lips and, of course, creating contrast by adding a very drk hair. The plastic look it's what brings the sweet chick out of the tough Patricia. The modelling is made with finesse. I think she's perfectly built.

[Gunilla]

Morning Sabie - I'm just passing by to wish you a HRD! (happy rigging day) :D

[daWinky]

Hey Radu, thanks for the visit and your comment:) , but I'm not sure if you've seen the more recent update of Patricia's head...some of the points you've mentioned are already done ...and some of the others still on the "to-do-list"...

Hey Gunie, a HRD, eh:D ? It would be more happy with more time, but I swear that after this challenge I will at least take the time for one complete character rig as it should be:deal: ...so far I've always done something quick and dirty with time pressure and it won't be different here:shrug: ...hope to show the first "action-shots" before weekend...
Nice evening for you!

-sabrina

[daWinky]

http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/14/11748/11748_1163192155_medium.jpg (http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/14/11748/11748_1163192155_large.jpg)

Just some quick renders of Patricia with a basic rig...should be enough to help me finding a good pose for her, details can be added and fixed then in the final position...

[thebest]

wow she is alife she is alife :twisted: hehehe nice rigging keep up the good work :bounce:

[mdavid]

Yep, agree with thebest. The lower-left pose is my favourite one for amazing realism

[SONIC-X]

Great work with the character Sabrina!

[nwiz25]

woweeeeeee! :bounce: shes up n posing! hehehehe :p :eek: :bounce:

yep i agree with thebest n mdavid! lower left one sure is real! :eek:

amazing! just amazing! :p

[SweD]

pffff....so fast ! :banghead: the rigging seems to be really good ! you doing a hard and good work Sabrina.
If i can, just only one "critic", imho hands are a little bit too large.

:thumbsup:

[Ivy00]

She looks great :) Can she dance too?

[TheFirstAngel]

ha how mean you got a headstart. while i still am unwrapping and annoyed about it i simply envy your great rig! lower left, agree with tony and mdave and nwiz looks great! keep up the great work, your speed is scary - good! yay!:beer::buttrock::arteest:

[shattered-fx]

the lower left..so full of zip!..nice modelling, I love the face also!


my EON entry

[daWinky]

Good Morning...

Tony, thanks again for your motivation, always a pleasure to read your cheerful comments!:)

Hey Mark, so you like the lower-left pose...it's noted, though I've just tested the rigging and the final pose depends a lot on the environment... thanks for your visit!:)

Hi Neville, glad that you like the tests, thank you!;)

Hey Cyril, fast? don't know, I've still no environment and have to come back to some concept sketching this week...but I think you're right with the hands, I have the same feeling though I've measured it and it should be ok from the proportions, strange:curious: ...

Thank you Linda, and dancing? Hmmm, she's still a little stiff but it should be enough for all festive meetings you usually have on an asteroid:D ...

Hey Sacha, thanks for the encouragement and somehow funny to hear that you think my speed is scary...I can say the same of your 3 (!) entries...that's really scary!:eek:

Hi Raffy, glad to hear that you like my modeling so far, thanks for your visit!:)



I would really like to show my progress with Lanier, but I was away for the weekend and all his recent files are on my laptop, including the start of the rigging from this weekend...and just yesterday the mainboard decided to say bye-bye:scream: , all reanimation was in vain and now I can only try to save my datas:banghead: ...and I need a new laptop:cry: ...so today it's maintenance and shooping day for me...

Hope you all have a better start in the week...

*edit: UUUps, Corrie! Nearly overseen your post, I'm still half asleep...Thanks for your nice comment and the visit!

-sabrina

[Lemog]

Morning Sabie...

well... this rig appeart just impressive... congrats.

At this step, it's difficult for me to give help about pose... that especially depend of her place in the composition, and how that interact with the guy ann the environment...

I don't saw hands before, it's the less good things for me on Patricia, maybe it's only due to the fast rigging, and deformations will be corrected when the pose will be choose. If not, you must certainly to chose a pose where the hands are not so much visible, or in the light.

Personaly, I really appreciate the second pose... very interesting character on this view, even if I don't know why she's like that... I mean you must maybe find a pose where she's really stable and not in balance, even if it's action, she doesn't to be in a pose where she seem to fall... a bit like the 1, 2 and 4 pose.
2 solutions for me... stable or really in action, not between the both.

I don't know if that could help... it's just my thought front of these poses.

Nice week for you :thumbsup:

[Gunilla]

Oh, that's really bad news about your computer ... hope you can have it sorted out quickly.
And the rig for Patricia - looks real good (and I'm not surprised) The poses works well too. One thing I notice is that her feet seems a bit small, maybe it's just the viewing angle. Other than that, no crits from me.
Hope you can restore the lost data without any problems and that you will be back with full speed shortly :thumbsup:

[Lemog]

Ooooh :eek: sad news... I've focused my answer on Patricia, and I don't saw the news about your computer... damned... always at the bad moments... I hope you can find quickly the good solution... :sad:

[thebest]

oh that is indeed bad news not just for u but for us too we are all sad for what happened
but I`am sure that if u lost the models u will make even better ones :scream:

[daWinky]

Good Morning!

Lolo, some really good points about Patricia, I'll keep the thoughts about the posing in mind:thumbsup: ... you're certainly right with the hands, I don't like them myself, so more work is needed, but first I want to decide about the scene and the final framing:) ...... damned... always at the bad moments... I hope you can find quickly the good solution...
You don't know how right you are, I really need a new laptop until this afternoon for presentation, important for me:scream: ...


Gunie, thanks for feeling with me:) ...new laptop is already here and I had a long night with software set-up, now I "only" need to recover the lost datas:twisted: ...and a huge can of coffee!

Tony, naaaa, don't say this:eek: , of course most of the things are on the workstation, just the recent work was on the laptop... I hope I can save all my files and be back in the game tomorrow:) !


-sabrina

[mdavid]

Hey Mark, so you like the lower-left pose...it's noted, though I've just tested the rigging and the final pose depends a lot on the environment
Yes, yes, yes! You are absolutely right! The pose should definitely be decided by the environment. It looks to me like your rig will let you do exactly what you want.

I'm sad to know you've had computer troubles and sure hope you get all your data back

[icedeyes]

I am sorry for your computer Sabrina... Last week my pc died on me too:sad:... I bought a new one now as well :)...

On Patricia, she looks great but as Lemog said, the pose will depend on the environment... Other than that, she looks just about perfect (even though the first pose makes her hand appear huge...LOL)...

Great work... waiting for your updates...

[thebest]

most of the things are on the workstation, just the recent work was on the laptop...

wow well that`s a good news to hear :bounce:


I hope I can save all my files and be back in the game tomorrow:) !

weeee waiting for u to rock the place again :scream:

[daWinky]

Good Morning!

Hey Mark, actually I'll have to tweak a lot for a final posing, but I think that's ok because we don't need an animation here...thanks for your nice words!:)

Hi George, so you can feel with me about the wasted time for a new set up...so annoying!:banghead: ... and I totally agree about Patricia's hands, I still have to fix this later...thanks for your support!:)

Ah, Tony, always here for some motivation:thumbsup: , that's great, thank you so much!

I'm still struggling here to catch up the lost time I've had with my hardware issues, my regular work needs some attention:shrug: ! But I'm already thinking about the next update and I ask myself if I should change the concept, atm I'm not very happy with my composition and how it works with the characters, maybe I try a more stylized background, actually more in the direction of a movie-poster:curious: ...hope I find the time to show something before weekend!

Thanks to all for the continued support and have all a nice day!

-sabrina

[TheFirstAngel]

i'm feeling with you completely, my machine has broken down last month, thats why i actually work on a p3 1 ghz with 512 mb ram. feels like goin to a dragsterrace with a kiddie tricicle ^^
since i lost all my data a year back i luckily had gotten me an external drive for weekly updates hope you do that too :)
best of luck and cross fingesr on the reapproach, you know, (I know cheap excuse but dont it to stuff the gap) every loss also is a win of the chance of a ne start with the plus of already made expiriences, you ca do it faster and better the next attemp, always so actually best of luck on winning back time :) go go go Sabie ^^ :bounce::bounce::bounce:

[Gunilla]

Morning Sabie! Hope you have sorted out your hardware troubles by now... it's so annoying when those things happen.
So, here's wishing you a great day :thumbsup:

[daWinky]

Hey Sacha!
i'm feeling with you completely, my machine has broken down last month, thats why i actually work on a p3 1 ghz with 512 mb ram. feels like goin to a dragsterrace with a kiddie tricicle ^^Seeing your entries this is a good proof that it isn't the hardware that counts:wise: ...but I can well imagine that working on this might not be pure fun:twisted: ...and thanks again for your encouragement!:)


Morning Gunie, most of the problems are solved and most of the software and datas are back...well, only most of it:rolleyes:...but I'm more struggling with my delays here and somehow a little of the enthusiasm for the project is gone, especially with my previous concept:shrug:
Currently I'm testing some more eyecatching backgrounds for Patricia, I hope to find some time during the weekend to refine the idea...thanks for your visit and a nice day for you too!:)

-sabrina

[daWinky]

http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/14/11748/11748_1163760845_medium.jpg (http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/14/11748/11748_1163760845_large.jpg)

I'm currently testing how Patricia looks with a more eyecatching background in movieposter format...with this composition I'd have enough space to work out the foreground and add some of the story elements...

[thebest]

I don`t know but I think there are too many wrinkles I think I imagine the clothes tighter
or with less wrinkles :rolleyes:
lol I know I`am kinda annoying person hehehhe :bounce:

[OZ]

My compliments! you are still doing aa splendid job on your character!!! The rigging looks perfect! seems you got great skills!:applause:

[Lemog]

About wrinkles, I think the prob is not cause about too much... but maybe more because these are certainly too similar... few modifications and that will be perfect...

About the new format, of course, that could be greater, maybe better than the previous idea... difficult to be sure, depend of many things... but I really like your new way... maybe it's the reason why that appear better ? :scream:

The only things a little bit disturbing for the moment, is the readablity of the background... a bit difficult to understand, of course, it's normal, it remain much work... so, difficult to imagine at this step the final aspect... I'm waiting for more... one thing keep sure, Patricia's quality desserved this kind of framing :thumbsup:

Best of week-end for you :)

[mdavid]

That's a very dramatic composition and I love it. If you can get this much drama into your final plus the sense of the giant size of the chamber then I'm thinking it will be fantastic. I love that curved line distortion effect of the plasma tube running into the centre. You keep amazing me with your updates

[Gunilla]

Indeed! This new comp is working real well to show your Patricia in all her glory - love the light and the comp. I agree with Mark - your progress is really amazing.
Have a great weekend and let's see more on Monday :)

[SONIC-X]

Hi Sabrina,this is looking great-love the character and the new background concept.

Keep it moving girl.

[daWinky]

Good Morning!

Hey Tony, I think I can imagine the kind of jumpsuit you would prefer:twisted: ...but you`re right, the wrinkles are looking somehow unnatural, I'll try to fix this...Thanks for pointing this!

Hi Fabio, thanks for the compliments:), atm I only see all the things that are still to fix and the remaining work, so it's good to get some motivation!

Morning Lolo, I'm eased to hear that you like the new background, of course it's just a quick test and a lot of work is needed to make it more readable, but I think I'll follow this direction ...thanks for your always appreciated opinion:) !

Hey Mark, great to hear that you like it and you're totally right with the problem to show the size of the chamber this way:shrug: ...I hope to get some good ideas to come closer to this...Thanks for your helpful support Mark!

Morning Gunie, so you also have a better feeling with the new background, important for me, now I begin to think that I really follow this further, thanks a lot!:thumbsup:

Hi Corrie, good to hear this:) ! Thanks for your nice comment!

So I definitely try to follow the new concept...but first I want to fix some of the most annoying problems with Patricia...and of course it's about time for some hairs for her! I've still no idea about a good hairdo for her or how to achive this, I hope to show some variations later...

-sabrina

[black-hand-77]

Sabrina Bott is entered in the "Eon Challenge" update: View Challenge Page (http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/eon/view_entries.php?challenger=11748)

Latest Update: Concept Art: new background tests
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Don't like the font used in EON title (I think is a sf juggernaut or something from SF family). It looks a little bit star-warshly.I recommend a Compacta black or a The Sans font. if you have a mac with osX tiger give me your e-mail and i'll send you these fonts archived. But the opening into the hard surface looks astonishing. Gives me a strong feeling of tranquility (it will be overpromissing if I'll say happiness, but close...). I love it!

[Slav]

i would change the position of the model, keep her from being cut off like she is now.

cant wait to see more! :thumbsup:

[Zapan]

Heya Sabie ... That's the ghost talking here ! :blush:

You're doing so great in this challenge Sabie ... That's barely believable ... I mean each update is awesome and everything promises to be huge ... The concept is great and Patricia is really cute even if she's bald ... so ... a lot of thumbsup for you ...

Can't wait for more , and have a great week !

cheers ,

-Steph

[thebest]

Hey Tony, I think I can imagine the kind of jumpsuit you would prefer:twisted:

hehehehehe u know me better than I know myself lol :twisted:

[Lemog]

Morning Sabie...

me too, as black_hand_77 I don't like so much the font title, I don't say that before because I was sure it's only for the placement... not for final... to illustrate the poster power so :)

Nice day for you miss :thumbsup:

[daWinky]

Good Morning!

Hey Radu, I'm glad to hear that you like the background so far:) ...and thanks for the fonts suggestion, of course you're right that the current type doesn't look so good!

Hi Yaroslav, nice to see you here for a visit! The position of Patricia is due to the fact that I want to hide the (too big etc.) hands until I fixed this:blush: , I think the final position will be more pleasant, thanks for this reminder!:)

Heya Stéph, my spooky friend:D ! I'm glad to see you here again and about your nice comment...for the missing hair of Patricia, she's also very unhappy about it and I'll give her at least a temporary hairdo in the next update! I'm already eager to discover your Patricia and I hope you'll have a little more time now for your entry!:)

Hey Tony,
hehehehehe u know me better than I know myself lol
of course it was just a guess...so you don't like close-fitting jumpsuits?:curious: :D

Morning Lolo, yes, this font was just a quick test to show the movie poster direction...I'll certainly try something better, but anyways thanks for pointing this, it's always easy for me to oversee or forget something that is very obvious for the others:scream: ...Nice day for you too!

Atm some rendertests for Pat's hairs are running, I'll show the result soon...


-sabrina

[daWinky]

http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/14/11748/11748_1164102382_medium.jpg (http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/14/11748/11748_1164102382_large.jpg)

Quick hairtest for Patricia...I'm not sure of the result at all, maybe short hairs are better for her, but that wouldn't be according to the her description in the book...

[Greatto]

http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/14/11748/11748_1160997148_medium.jpg (http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/14/11748/11748_1160997148_large.jpg)



Hello Sabrina... will you follow this concept or you change it? :)



http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/14/11748/11748_1164102382_medium.jpg (http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/14/11748/11748_1164102382_large.jpg)

Great hair update, but hair density bit low... how do you think? (you'll fix it later I know :D )I love right one, she seem too me better ... Really Great progress,

P.s. if you pose her fingers it will be more live and perfectly :)

[thebest]

you know I have confident in you whatever u choose I`am with u :thumbsup:


Hey Tony,

of course it was just a guess...so you don't like close-fitting jumpsuits?:curious: :D

hehehe who don`t :twisted:

[ChewyPixels]

Great start on Patricia's hair! Try increasing the hair's density as right now it looks like she is balding. :argh:

Great work nonetheless!

[Gunilla]

Yep - I agree, very nice start for the hair. To me, the leftmost lenght works best - you could have it blow slightly in the wind... beautiful.

You're doing so great in this challenge Sabie ... That's barely believable ... I mean each update is awesome and everything promises to be huge ...

I couldn't have said it better - you rock, Sabie :thumbsup:

[OZ]

she look alive! cool stuff! i love that hairs! very solid!! you did it again!!:thumbsup:

[Lemog]

Of course... you rock baby :thumbsup: especially on the right face... really spectacular haircut... just maybe more red for me (but only for me...) I don't read the book and I don't know about Patricia's hairs...

W U N D E R S C H O N N N N N N N N N N :scream:

[claudiojordao]

Hey daWinky, congratulations for your great modeling work!

[mdavid]

Wow, another update! Bravo! Patricia with hair is looking excellent. Amazing work and amazing progress

[SONIC-X]

great start on the hair Sabrina-Good luck.

[Zapan]

Goooody !!!

A really great test ... I rather prefer the left one , the lengh suits her maybe better ...
But you keep blowing my mind :eek: ... just keep on rocking Sabie !

Have a great day , cheers ,

-Steph

ps : Spooky ? :rolleyes: :scream:

[icedeyes]

I will go with Zapan... I like the one with the long hair more... dont know why really but i think it suits her better... great work...

[daWinky]

A late good morning everyone...

Hey Timur, atm I like the new concept more and try to go in this direction, more movie poster style...and you're right with the hair, I'll make it more dense for the final render, more hair painfully increases the rendertime, so this is just for the preview! About the hands, they are still my weak point, they resist a good posing and so much tweaking is necessary that I think I have to remodel them completly ...Thanks for the critics:) , some good points for me!

you know I have confident in you whatever u choose I`am with u...
Hello Tony, you're sure:D ? Your critic is always appreciated, but of course I like to hear this ...

Hi Jesus, still balding ...no, I want her away from this look, so she'll get more hair later...thanks for your visit!:)

Hey Gunie, thanks a lot for your cheering here:) ... and I see you like the long hair more, hmmm, I think more testing is necessary ...

Hey Lolo, oh, you really seem to like her this way:D , glad to hear this...and atm I also prefer the right version of the hair, even if this promises to be more work and tweaking...

Hi Claudio, great to see you here for a visit and thank you for the nice words!:)

Hey there, Mark! Yes it was about time to give her some hair, especially because I had no clue how to make this...glad that you like the tests!

Thank you Corrie!:)

Hi Stéph, spooky because of this Heya Sabie ... That's the ghost talking here ! ...a ghost in my thread is of course spooky:D ...and thanks for the cheering, the vote for the longer hair is noted, I'm getting more and more unsure now...

And another vote for the longer hairs, thanks for your continued support George:) !


The next update will certainly be a testrender of the posed Patricia to get a kind of to-do-list for her...and then it's time to think about the details of the background:scream: ...


Wish you all a nice day!


-sabrina

[daWinky]

http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/14/11748/11748_1164355051_medium.jpg (http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/14/11748/11748_1164355051_large.jpg)

Not much progress here, a quick view at Patricia at the current stage...next step is fixing the clothes, especially the neckline/décolleté and the wristbands, ...and of course the hands, still not happy with them...as always suggestions are welcome!

[Gunilla]

Ahhh ... she's really beautiful! Great expression of sensibility and intelligence I think - very good!
What's on her badge? Is it a brand of some sort?

... and of course a happy day and weekend for you :thumbsup:

[Lemog]

Don't know what to say :eek:... maybe only "she's alive"... and the dream come true :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

[mdavid]

Wow! That's wonderful work. Beautiful!

[Ivy00]

She is looking really good, it is cool to see each step of her progression, can't wait to see her in environment, but I am sure that is going to take some time.

[SweD]

great hairs Sabrina ! really ! :thumbsup: maybe closing a few the eyes could be give her a feeling of some perpetual reflexion, quiet, and glance in a remote idea. (i don't know if i can say this in english :scream: )
anyway good job !

[brrrhmmm]

Side by Side comparisons So that you know who is doing

what in the illustration category of the eon challenge only.

Classifier followed by artists.

: Strong/Beautiful Foreground Potraits with EON elements in the background.

Movie Posters theme.

Characters in dramatic poses.

Characters have detailed skin,muscle and skeletal structures.



Radu Bogdan Boeru

Tiberius Viris

Sacha angel diener

Niklas Frostgard

Michael van den bosch

sandra bott

michael dashow

nabil hamadi

alwyn talbot

timur kiryashov

damir g martin

Nathan L Bachelder

Daniel lu visi

Maurizio Manzieri

dale thomas

ego lataire

rune rask

guo jian

hugo araujo

: massive architectures,detailed cityscapes,plasma tubes,huge eon elements viewed in the distance in the style of grand space opera with miniscule,faceless,diminutive men ,women and all terrain machines reacting and responding to the environment.

Tiberius Virius

remko troost

tolgahan gungor

torsten wolber

nathaniel west

ramy badie

bryce smith

martin nielsen

emrah elmasli

mauricio alvarado kladt

prabath wijayantha

maciej frolow

nilesh ambekar

constantinos krystallis

greg kaperski

adrian fekete

reinaldoromero

marcin j. nikiforuk

james nelms

maurizio manzieri

jarek sznytzer

Derek wilson

Nazirull Safry Paijo

Daniel justin bird

dale thomas

erik linden

rune rask

david freeman

ori arad

markus graf

ali jalali

raffy encarnacion

alex kelly



: air ,sea atmosperics featuring natural elements of islands,skies blend into a grand sense of scale.Includes Tree elements.Gaia oriented.Mountain views and Spectacular chamber vistas. Sky atmospherics

adrian baluta

gonzalo golpe

gunilla elam

jonathan colvin

guo jian

oscar jostedt



: party scene with the character interacting and gossiping

Parties gathered at gate opening

Radu Bogdan Boeru

nekomouse

: wonderful sense of humor even black humor and caricature

Torsten Wolber

per trystad

mark david

: action packed conflict with eon elements in the backdrop and lots of machines,ships,cities and soldiers

thierry schiel

paul hume

: entire cities,planetary bodies,asteroids,weather systems,gates,singularities,flawships and space vehicles in awe inspiring perspectives with large scale explosions.Ships have beautiful designs.Space Atmospherics.

sacha angel

neville de souza

prabath wijayantha

greg kaperski

mona eriksson

attilla kurt

vladimir davidenko

paul b castillo

juha kamarainen

mauricio alvarado kladt

joel carlo

shawn andrews

matt benya

Derek Wilson

blaz porenta

oscar jostedt

pavel elagin





: detailed explanatory tutorials

sacha angel

matt benya

[thebest]

looks cool sabie I have some crits ...(here he begins lol:rolleyes: ) sorry won`t annoy u hehehe:bounce:
first ( don`t know why ) I always imagine the badge near the left shoulder:wise:
second about her hair it looks cool short but needs to make it in different style u know they are
having alot of technology so they must have made new hair cuts hehehe lol:twisted:
like this maybe :twisted:
http://img120.imageshack.us/img120/6776/dsdiy3.png

[daWinky]

Morning Gunie, really glad to hear your comment, sensibility and intelligence are just the 2 things I tried to show:) !
And it's the old solar-system-logo of the NASA on her badge, thought it could be a nice addition for her more boring jumpsuit...

Morning Lolo, well, at least my dream of making a character I actually like is coming true:D ...and even better to hear that she has your accordance...

Hey Mark, thanks for your encouragement!

Hi Linda, good to hear that you like my Patricia and you're totally right with the environment, it's about time to start with some serious modeling for this:scream: ...thanks for this reminder!

Hey Cyril, thanks for the nice words and I'm not sure if I totally understand your suggestion, but I guess so:) ...I'm getting a little nervous now with my lack of environment at the moment, so I just fix the necessary things for Patricia, bringing her in a final pose and hopefully I have some time left at the end to come back to her and look for the more subtle changes...

Johor, huh, you've made a nice overview here, thanks for all the work and posting it to each thread...but my name is "Sabrina", not "Sandra", so feel free to edit this in all the 187 threads:twisted: ...

Hey there Tony, ah, I knew it was just a joke that you're confident with all I'm doing here:D ...about the badge, it's really the left shoulder?? So I have to change this, and thanks for the suggestion with the hairdo, the pic is really nice, but I think this is more for the trendy blondes...Patricia is not that kind of girl:wise: ! Actually she has long hairs, but just tied up at the back of the head...

I had now time at the weekend to continue, but I hope to come along at least with Patricia's hands today and show the progress later...


Wish you all a great start in the week!

-sabrina

[brrrhmmm]

Sabrina Bott not Sandra Bott damn I made an error after having my eyes glaze over
after viewing too many entries.I have corrected the problem immediately.However I won't
be updating the prievous posts to prevent annoyance.However I will post the updated
and corrected to new challenge entries I encounter.Anyway you are second in terms of
number of views after Sacha Angel so no harm done.:)

[Lemog]

...but my name is "Sabrina", not "Sandra", so feel free to edit this in all the 187 threads:twisted: ...
hahahaha... always much fun in these challenges :scream: hahahaha...

[Gunilla]

hahahaha... always much fun in these challenges :scream: hahahaha...

Lol - I agree :D Line of the day, Sabie :thumbsup:

[Zapan]

Morning Sandra !! :scream: ....

She's so gorgeous the haircut totally suits her , ... that's it !

Blowing mind work Sabie !

Have a great week !

-Stéph

[black-hand-77]

Sabrina Bott is entered in the "Eon Challenge" update: View Challenge Page (http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/eon/view_entries.php?challenger=11748)

Latest Update: Initial color pass or textured and lit model: next Patricia-wip
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Extreme! Cool job! Does she speak? :))

[thebest]

Hey there Tony, ah, I knew it was just a joke that you're confident with all I'm doing here:D ...

lol no I was talking serious I really have confident in you :)


about the badge, it's really the left shoulder?? So I have to change this,

lol then the other side hehehe:bounce:


and thanks for the suggestion with the hairdo, the pic is really nice, but I think this is more for the trendy blondes...Patricia is not that kind of girl:wise: ! Actually she has long hairs, but just tied up at the back of the head...

ok but I think it should look more neat and tidy if u know what I mean:wise:

[daWinky]

Good Morning!

@brrrhmmm: hehe, don't worry, of course I was just kidding...never expected that you edit it everywhere:) ...

Lolo and Gunie, well I have my moments:wise: ...but usually only very few on Mondays:scream: ...

Hey Stephounette, you couldn't resist, eh:D ? But glad to hear that you like her with this hair, though you've voted for the longhaired version...

Hi Radu, wow, that's a nice compliment, thanks:) ! And speaking...not yet...making a completly animatable character is just a dream for me atm:rolleyes: ...

Tony, hehe, you're really persistent with her haircut:D ...I promise that I try some more stylish hairs for her after the challenge, but for this time I really think that the hairs this way fits the best with her description in the book:wise: ...


Finally I fixed these hands, just rendering the update atm...and I had some time in the evening to think about the "clavicle" or gate-opener design, the outcome is quite funny:shrug: ...

-sabrina

[daWinky]

http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/14/11748/11748_1164705312_medium.jpg (http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/14/11748/11748_1164705312_large.jpg)

Patricia's hands are finally more the way I wanted them...
As you can see I've started some modeling for the foreground, I want to show Patricia whith the clavicle, opening a gate...unfortunately all my ideas are coming out like parts of a bike or pimped vacuum cleaner...so I'm desperately hoping for some good suggestions!

[thebest]

wow nice update keep it up :thumbsup:
(about the hair)as I said before I agree with whatever u decide I was just showing u my point:wise:
hehehe can`t wait to see her in stylish haircut :twisted: :bounce:

[Lemog]

About opening the gate... why not a kind of metallic wheel ? :) something between ancient and technologic...

[Ivy00]

I had to return my copy of Eon to the library, but there are a few descriptions of the clavicle in the book that might help... I just don't remember them, but do remember where they are in the book. One is where she first gets it to try to find her way back to before Death Earth and close to that is when she opens the gate. The other , not sure if this one is a detailed description or not is when she is about 75 yrs old and showing her tools to young Kleopatra in the very end of the book. If I could remember the descriptions in more detail I might be able to offer some suggestions. Patricia's hands are looking great :)

[daWinky]

Morning everyone!

Hey Tony, thank you!...I was just showing u my point
of course, and this is always very good for me to rethink some points:thumbsup: , so "keep going" with your crits!

Morning Lolo, I like the suggestion with the wheel, unfortunately I want to be near to the books description, but at least I can try to make something less disturbing:scream: ...thanks for being always here with your good ideas!:)

Hi Linda, ah yes, I've missed the description in this last scene, it seems that this thingy looks different in different stages of activities, so I have more possibilities now, very helpful hint Linda, thanks a lot!:)

I hope to show a new clavicle very soon...

-sabrina

[Gunilla]

Morning! Nice update - I wish I could make some suggestion for your "pimped vacuum cleaner" (sooo funny description!) :D
What's a clavicle here? It's not the bone I suppose - or is it? If so you could find tons of refs for human clavicles ... but I have a feeling that's not what you after.
I feel a bit ashamed as for not reading the book :blush:

Her hands looks great now and hope you can nail that thingy - I'm confident you will!

[Lemog]

Morning sabie...

Morning Lolo, I like the suggestion with the wheel, unfortunately I want to be near to the books description, but at least I can try to make something less disturbing ...thanks for being always here with your good ideas!:)
mmmh... maybe I must now read the book before to give another "well" ideas :scream: hahahaha...

And thanks to Gunie to ask about the "clavicle"... I must acknowledge to be very disapointed by this word :D

I'm now very curious to discover this new part :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: I can't imagine that... :eek:

Nice day for you... ;)

[daWinky]

Gunie, thanks for having a look at the hands:) , seems like this vacuum cleaner takes all attention away from Patricia:scream: ...and I have to admit that my reading of the book was a very quick one, so I'm always a little unsure about some details...

Lolo, so I've made you curious? The bad thing is that I also can not really imagine this:D ...
The "clavicle" is a thing to open a gate, of course the gate is not a simple door, naaaa, it's a gate in the continuum of space and time:wise: ...and I've also thought of the bone, but that makes even less sense with the description I remember!
I'm just searching the sites in the book with the descriptions and model something new this evening...

-sabrina

[icedeyes]

hey sabrina... ok.. Hands look very nice.. As for opening the door, you could use a large lever of some sort... either attached to the side of the door or the floor... This will not stray too far from the book and is a common among sci-fi films and books... Also the doors on Axis city are voice activated so, if you want to use that, you could... finally, the door to the library is not described as having handles or anything, so you can use a door without a handle (maybe motion activated)... Finally when they are going for the signularity, they enter through a hatch (i pressume Lost-like)... Hope this helped...

[daWinky]

Good Morning!

Hey George, oh, I really must be clearer with my explanations here, I'm not looking for a door handle or a bone:scream: ...the "CLAVICLE" is a special instrument described in the book to open a (virtual) gate into another dimension, something like the wormhole of the scifi-writers...here are some descriptions of the book:
"...something saddle-shaped with protruding handles..." "like a divining rod with a radar dish attached..." and finally something like an old-fashioned Japanese pillow with handlebars like you find it on a bike...

Don't know if this explanation makes things less confuse here:rolleyes: , perhaps my intention gets clearer with the next update...thanks for your visit and the support:) !

-sabrina

[Lemog]

Morning Sabie...

maybe another bad idea, but anyway my morning vision about the way to open something virtual.

...and why not a kind of virtual cercle of wavy water, all right and floating in the air, just need to pass the hand inside (the extremity of the hand disappear inside, or only few fingers) to open the door to the other dimension... with maybe a zone around with difraction... to simulate the reality distorsion...

...and if it's not made with kind of water, that also could be something as turning stars... as a mini solar system (or constellation) where it only need to touch one planet, or a comet queue to open the other dimension...

just few ideas of a tiredness brain :scream: hahahaha

[daWinky]

http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/14/11748/11748_1164870235_medium.jpg (http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/14/11748/11748_1164870235_large.jpg)

Next try of "clavicle"-design...hope it looks more scifi and mysterious now..

[icedeyes]

Hey Sabrina.... This one looks much better... Sorry i didn't understand what you were talking about but i guess it is further down the book than what have i read :shrug:... And I am in chapter 58... I like the book but some desciptions seem funny (might not have been when the book was first published)... I will finish the book in a couple of days so then i will have a clearer view or the object....

Have fun and keep us posted...:thumbsup:

[Lemog]

I see... the clavicle is back... why not Sabie... but I'm not sure about this "thing"... I speak only visually... that make me a bit strange... but in other hand, I'm not sure than my idea could work better :scream:

( I really like the background like that :thumbsup: )

[Gunilla]

...the "CLAVICLE" is a special instrument described in the book to open a (virtual) gate into another dimension, something like the wormhole of the scifi-writers...here are some descriptions of the book:
"...something saddle-shaped with protruding handles..." "like a divining rod with a radar dish attached..." and finally something like an old-fashioned Japanese pillow with handlebars like you find it on a bike...
Don't know if this explanation makes things less confuse here:rolleyes: ,

Ouch! That's not an easy description to follow! :scream:

I see you're working hard at it, good! I like the beam and glow from this one... but maybe the previous was a bit more interesting in shape?
And totally agree with lolo about the new background - really nice!

[thebest]

wow nice backgorund and defintely awsome something in her hand lol :twisted:

[mdavid]

This work is so good I can't offer much except for cheering. I think the new clavicle design is better and yes, it does look delightfully sci-fi. I also like Lemog's idea of a patch of rippling spacetime in front of the clavicle - a hole opening up to the next universe. I'm sure a really nice effect could be added in post work.

It's great to see that beautiful background again too.

[daWinky]

Hey Lolo, tired brain?? That's a really great idea:love: ...I've already planned some effects to show the gate is about to open, but on the ground where Patricia is standing...when I have it right in the air with Patricia touching it the strange "clavicle" won't be necessary and I can also give Patricia a more motivated posing...at least I try how this will fit in the background, thanks a lot!:bounce:

Hey George, I've already guessed that you haven't read this part of the book:D , but as you see you're not the only one confused about it - and glad to hear that you like this new clavicle better, thank you!:)

Hi Gunie, good that I'm not alone with problems to understand this descriptions...and you really like the first version of this thing more:scream: ?? I see if I can find a good solution for this, thanks for your always great support here!:)

Hey Tony, I'm not sure if you really like, but at least my awesome design takes your attention away from her haircut, not:D ?

Hi Mark, thanks for your nice cheering:) ! And you're totally right about some more effects for the virtual gate, I'll play around a little at the weekend, hope to get some more ideas!


-sabrina

[Ivy00]

nice cool new clavicle wizamadoo, I only have one suggestion and that is maybe change the end shape of the handles, it is looking a bit phallic on that part of it .

[thebest]

Hey Tony, I'm not sure if you really like, but at least my awesome design takes your attention away from her haircut, not:D ?

hehe it sure do the job :bounce:

[ChewyPixels]

Hey Sabie. :wavey: Sorry that I haven't dropped by in a while. Way too busy, but I'm sure you know how that is. :)

Your latest milestones are very impressive! :thumbsup: I like the new design for the clavicle. The other wasn't so bad, either, but this one's just cooler looking. Your background is nice, too. Kind of reminds me of Sacha's 3d entry. Not a bad thing at all, I'm sure you would agree. :)

Looking forward to your next milestone. Go, go, go! :bounce:

[soapy]

Hi Sabrina, your project is coming along very nicely. Patricia looks great. I like the second clavicle better than the first. I agree that the idea of some kind of trippy gate opening effect would be nice. :-)

[Grin3d]

Hello Sabrina,
ahh, now I see that you have choosed or changed to the same scene like me (you have talk about that). The clavicle description in the book has confused me a lot, but I think you're on the right way (similar to my imagination). I like the second one much more but I'm not very familiar with this glossy sci-fish look but that's no critique).

Roman Grin3d

[Thaldir]

Hallo, Sabrina

Just wanted to thank you for visiting my thread and letting you know that I'm following your progress, as a lurker, since as a 2d artist *only* I don't feel I've much to offer as suggestions go.

Keep up the good work!:thumbsup:

[Zapan]

Heya Sabie !! :wavey:

The awesomeness goes on !
The "clavicle" is really beautiful , though I didn't really understand what it is ... :blush: (doorknob? I've read several times that description part , but ... :banghead: )
Anyway , the design is really sci-fi and I do like the green glow on it , so I guess it will work whatever it is :)...

Keep on rocking Sabie ! :applause:

cheers ,

-Steph

[daWinky]

Good Morning!

Sorry for the late replies, I've been away early for a long weekend...and now I'm back with a bad cold:sad: ...

I only have one suggestion and that is maybe change the end shape of the handles, it is looking a bit phallic on that part of it . Hey Linda, not intentional of course, a totally innocent smoothing effect, but thanks for the hint, if this thing will be in the final scene I'll take care of it!

Hi Tony, well, so far the only reason for me to keep it in the scene:D ...thanks for your visit !


Hey Jesus, thanks for having another look in here and unfortunately I know well about the time problem ...good to hear that you like the latest additions and I agree that there are some similar entries here at first sight, but with different focus and details, so I'm not really worried about that:) ...

Hi Jim, great to see you back commenting here, though I've just discovered you've changed the place to continue with your scene! I'll visit you there of course, too curious to miss your next steps:) ...And thanks for your nice words, some gate opening effects will come here for sure!

Heya Roman, nice to see you here again and I can well understand your confusion about the clavicle...and I'm not sure if this nasty green glowing really helps to give it the right look! Somehow I've missed the stage of exploding planets, galaxies and plasma bombs:D , so I'm not familiar myself with these science fiction effects...thanks for your visit and I hope to see an update of your concept soon!

Hey Tiziano, thanks for dropping by and your nice words! And of course it doesn't matter here if 2d or 3d, if it's not about special technical advices...thoughts about composition, color scheme, lighting and texturing are the same, so your comments are very appreciated:) !

Weee, it's Stéph again:bounce: ! Always glad to see you here, and thanks for liking the "doorknob"! And you're for sure not alone with not understanding the scene this way:scream: ...


With all the "clavicle"-confusion here I just see that it doesn't work...at least not the way I want! And I begin to be really annoyed about this thing and the whole scene, I hope it's only due to my flu and headache:banghead: ...perhaps a little break is a good idea and then I try to follow Lemog's suggestion about the gate...


Have all a great start in the week!


-sabrina

[Lemog]

Morning Sabie... mmmh not good the morning headache (I know well that...)
Glad you appreciate the suggered way... I don't know if that match perfectly with the book content, but I really think that could be "well adapted" or "well designed" with "your" patricia and "your" mood already started...
About the "planet's" gate... that make me think now to something as the mini-universe visible in the cat's collar in MIB 1... do you saw this movie ? I imagine something like that, larger of course... and you take your choice to open the planet's door wanted.

[Gunilla]

Morning Sabie - sorry to hear about your cold. No, stay warm, eat icecream, rest and the clavicle thing will be working out well as soon as you get better - doctors' ordination :D

Have a great day :)

[Lemog]

If your doctor give you Beer+Schnaps... I want his adress :scream: :beer:

[icedeyes]

Just stopped by to say..... Get well soon Sabrina... :beer: here is to a fast recovery...

[daWinky]

Good Morning!

About the "planet's" gate... that make me think now to something as the mini-universe visible in the cat's collar in MIB 1... do you saw this movie ? I imagine something like that, larger of course... and you take your choice to open the planet's door wanted.
Oh yes, I remember this movie and the universe in the marble...again a very nice idea, thanks:) ! Atm I'm testing something more stylized to pick up this "worlds within worlds" motto, not so far away from your marble idea...If your doctor give you Beer+Schnaps... I want his adress In December the therapy you're thinking of is called "Weihnachtsmarkt" (in Aachen is a very nice one), with "Glühwein mit Schuss" at every corner:wise: ...one or two cups of this and you're feeling fine, you still have the flu but don't care about anymore:D ...there's only the problem with the morning after:scream: ...

Hey Gunie, thanks for the hints, I especially followed the icecream part:) ...feeling better now I still don't like the clavicle idea, so next update is without it:shrug: ...

Hi George, thanks for the good wishes, this helps:) !

-sabrina

[Lemog]

Good morning Sabie... it's so good to see you here and at first view feeling better...

About the idea for clavicle... agree with you that at this moment, the solution is not evident.

A morning idea... maybe you go into your scene, and try another framing, another point of view... choose some of these point of view... and maybe with another framing, with another pose for her, or turned differently that could give you the good way/idea about how open the gate...

About clavicle... I saw yesterday in an old book a real clavicle to open something (clavette)... perhaps a door but more to attach two things. I don't make scan of it because that seem more as antic technology and I don't know exactly how that could match with your scene...

I hope a soon solution for this problem... nice day for you :thumbsup:

and thanks for explanation about "Weihnachtsmarkt" :scream:

[Gunilla]

Morning Sabie! I'm glad to see the icecream worked and you're feeling better. :thumbsup:
As for the clavicle... maybe you could do it litterarely by using a real huge clavicle (http://www.sci.utah.edu/%7Esimpson/documentation/projects/annotation/webdocs/image_gal_files/miscellaneous/clavicle.jpg)? It could be from someone with special powers or something else that would make it powerful enough... and then hide it in glow. The clavicle has a rather beautiful shape, don't you think?

I'm sure you figure it out, just let it rest for some days and you'll get there :)

Edit: And now I see your comments about Glühwein ... I love that! We have "Glögg" that is similar but I'd prefer Glühwein anytime :thumbsup:

[ChewyPixels]

GOOD MORNING SABIE! :scream: Hehe, glad to hear that you're feeling better. :bounce: Maybe now we'll see something new from you soon.

As for me, work has gotten in the way. :shrug: I need to model a cool looking running, soccer, or cross-trainer shoe before Wednesday! :eek: So, I won't be able to work on my entry anytime soon. :cry: I hope to be back stronger than ever. :twisted:

[daWinky]

Morning Lolo, I didn't know that there is a technical meaning for 'clavicle' beside of the anatomical one...so even if it's not interesting for the scene I'm really curious to see what you've found there, of course only if you'll find some time to scan it! And thanks for always being here with some good "morning ideas":) !


Morning Gunie...you're thinking of a kind of magic bone:scream: !? Not bad, but meanwhile I guess that it's not the kind of "clavicle" but the scene itself that's not working this way...and I've not the time (and ambition) of changing so much:shrug: - I've already rendered the high-res background, so I try something slightly different...
So you like Glühwein:beer: ...I agree that this is one of the more pleasant stops during christmas-shopping-tours!


Hey Jesus, thanks for stopping by and I don't know if you'll see so much really new here...it's the same for me, many things still to finish this year and Christmas is not far away:scream: ! I wish you luck with your shoes and hope to see you back with your textured vehicle soon:) !


-sabrina

[daWinky]

http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/14/11748/11748_1165564173_medium.jpg (http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/14/11748/11748_1165564173_large.jpg)

I'm looking out now for a more abstract idea of the gate-opening, trying to pick up the motto "worlds within worlds"...with a little more work on lighting and pose I think I like this more than the previous versions...

[Lemog]

Morning Sabie... whaouw... near to be perfect for me... the global design is okay for me... just the "world" appear too much hot as fire... maybe something more as air or flying wind, blue_cold turbulences... and one or more little hot points inside....

...again morning thought... or vision :scream:

I wish you a nice creative day :thumbsup:

[SweD]

Morning Sabrina :)

Definitely i love this second shot ! I think you catch more of the Eon "Spirit" than with the clavicle, and i really like your design of the "gates". it's rounded, it's clean, it's great :scream:
The 'world" tone doesn't disturb me at all, but i think he will not be associate with fire if you add some particles, or turbulence like Laurent said.

Anyway, i think you got it ! :D

[thebest]

hey Sabie :twisted: I just saw something :wise: I think u added it using photoshop:rolleyes:
I don`t know why :D but it looks like if the original image was without this:bounce:
I think it would looke better if u add some shadow:thumbsup: and as always

KEEP GOING

[Gunilla]

Cheerioo! Just chiming in with the rest here... this looks like a real good way to go :thumbsup:
And of course, a nice weekend to you :)

[mdavid]

Yes, yes, yes! I thought the clavicle was working okay - it seemed to match that part of the book - but this just seems better. That's one funky looking gate device you've got there and I like that a lot too. Wonderful stuff, Sabrina.

[daWinky]

Good Morning!

Hi Lolo, you don't know how eased I am to hear that you like this solution, I couldn't see this clavicle thing anymore:scream: ...maybe you're right with the little galaxy, I'll try out some variations!:)

Hey Cyril, thanks for your motivation and I'm glad to hear that the gate-design works for you...now I'm playing around a little with the "world"...:)

Ah Tony, always the hard critic, not easy to get your ok:D ...of course I feel obliged now to work more on it! Thanks for the "keep going"!

Hey Gunie...Good to hear that you like the new version too! Some progress is desperately needed here to keep my motivation alive:rolleyes: ...Wish you a great start in the week...perhaps with the delivery of a new computer!?

Hey Mark, I'm also feeling better now without the clavicle... thanks for cheering:) !


-sabrina

[thebest]

Ah Tony, always the hard critic, not easy to get your ok:D

lol :scream: :bounce:


...of course I feel obliged now to work more on it!
hehehe yup that`s for sure :twisted:

[Nothingness]

great work Sabrina!


i'm so curious to see what you are going to do with all this.

eagerly waiting :thumbsup:

[element5]

Hi Sabrina,

Nice work :thumbsup: I am still reading Eon so i am not up to speed on the scene you are portraying.....i am a very slow reader....lol.

I do have a suggestion, maybe a pose of knees bent together and stooped over as if she is looking in curiously with her right hand on her upper leg and the left hand pointing in.... just a thought. :)

Cheers Mark

[daWinky]

Hey Tony, just a little patience, I hope to have time for an update today;) ...


Hi Nico, actually I just want to polish the elements I have now, making a nice scene of it...not to forget that there is still the Lanier model for the background:scream: ...thanks for your support:) !


Hey Mark, I totally agree, Patricia's pose is looking too stiff atm, I try to find something more convincing...Thanks for the visit and the good suggestion:) !


-sabrina

[Lemog]

Good morning Sabie... hope all is good for you, and especially the update very soon... I keep my eyes on your thread :)

[thebest]

Hey Tony, just a little patience, I hope to have time for an update today;) ...

hmmmm patience :curious: I remember hearing this word before :p

[daWinky]

Morning Lolo, thanks for asking but I have to disappoint you, actually I had another bad start in the week with some very basic technical problems: I have no heating system here:scream: , it had a quite dramatic breakdown on Monday, it's too cold to sit at the desk now:sad: ...I had a funny day trying to get an exotic 15 years old replacement part and now I'm waiting for the delivery...a week before christmas:banghead: ...

Hey Tony, lol:D , you've heard it before probably in my poor thread and you will hear "patience" again! But I'm back to EON as soon as my house is warm again:rolleyes: ...

Meanwhile I can show only what I've done with the pose so far, still a lot to fix...

-sabrina

[daWinky]

http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/14/11748/11748_1166001900_medium.jpg (http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/14/11748/11748_1166001900_large.jpg)

According to the suggestions I have slightly changed the pose of Patricia (still very wip) and the appearance of the "world"...

[Lemog]

The pose is very good... really in action... and the clavicle better... I just imagine little "hot" spots (yellow/orange touches ?) inside the blue clouds...

Sorry to hear about your heat problems... very sad just before christmas... I hope the weather in your country is not so much cold as actually here... not easy to work with cold fingers. :eek:

I'm waiting good news about that from you... :wise:

(I know that well, I have an old heating system... more than 40 years... and as we're afraid by this kind of problem, I've just install a wood's granulate stove... very clean and hot... now the main one can breackdown, I'm ready for winter :) )

[Gunilla]

Oh dear! Sorry to hear about your lack of heating... hope the weather is as mild as it is here.
As for the update - YOINKS! The new pose is working really well and the clavicle thing too, it raises curiosity and interest.
Hope your spare part comes through among all christmas packages and looking forward to your next steps :thumbsup:

[thebest]

sorry to hear about "the heat" problem can`t say I know how u feel cuz it`s always hot here
in Egypt :D

about the pose I think it looks cool ...........
but I`am waiting to see the expression on her face .....maybe kinda of surprised :eek:lol
keep going and good luck with ur heating system :scream: I can make 3d one for u :twisted: lol sorry that`s what I can help with :bounce:

[mdavid]

I'm another one sad to read about your heating problems. I hope you get that spare part soon. I suppose your computer would like working in an ice-cold room, but that doesn't mean you would like to.

The new pose is really good. You've done a superb job with that modeling Sabrina. Patricia is starting to look so life-like it's spooky. I like the sense of the alternate universe appearing in those wisps of light too

[daWinky]

Hey Lolo, good that you like the pose:) , I'm about to collapse it now so I can work on the problem areas and clothes...I'm not sure about the hot spots:shrug: , you didn't like the first version with the warm colors...I upload a few variations later!
...and yes, clever to have a "plan B" for the heating, I'm sure it's somewhere on our to-do-list , just behind the new roof:scream: , just an endless story with an old house...but with a little luck the heating system is repared this weekend!


Hey Gunie! YOINKS?! So I guess you like the last update:D , thanks...and the weather could be worse, no ice and snow thankfully:rolleyes: ...!

Hi Tony, a 3d heating system for me!? so nice, at least heart warming:love: ...but you don't like Patricia's expression? I've not planned to change it, for me it fits the situation quite well, but I'll have another look at it now:) ...


Hey Mark, thanks for your nice comment, glad to hear that you like the update, always very motivating for me:) ...
and you're right, somehow I have a more limited range of temperature for good work than the computers:twisted: ...


-sabrina

[daWinky]

http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/14/11748/11748_1166179683_medium.jpg (http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/14/11748/11748_1166179683_large.jpg)

The first version of the text looked very odd, already mentioned by black_hand_77 and Lemog, so I've tried another font...I think somethink like this should work better, suggestions are very welcome...and I'm also unsure about the suggested variations of the "world", more something galaxy-like or some nice nebulas...?

[Lemog]

Morning Sabie...

Perfect...

the version at right have the exact design I've imagined... just maybe more centered front of the hole and nothing more to say...


I love this way... BRAVO :thumbsup:

It's good to see that just before to wish you a good week-end :wise:

[daWinky]

Hey Lolo,

Perfect...the version at right have the exact design I've imagined

ah, I love too hear that, thanks:) ...and a little more centered, it's noted...

and of course an especially nice weekend for you too:wavey:

-sabrina

[Thaldir]

Yes, the version on the right definitely feels right to me too.

Well done, Sabrina!:)

[thebest]

I agree with lemog :wise:

[mdavid]

Cheering from me! I also like the image on the right most. The nebulae have a sort of mystical alchemy look about them which I reckon fits in nicely with that part of the book. Up until then the book was all hard science, but at that part it became hard science mixed with a sort of mystery and deep intuition. So I know they were supposed to be nebulae but I think as an image it works on multiple levels!

With the font, I like the text in the word 'EON' in both versions - perhaps the one on the left a bit more. The extended letter spacing works well. Perhaps the letter spacing in the 'Greg Bear' text could be increased so the words match the width of the word 'EON'. In typography I'm always lining up edges or widths or heights and it often helps. I would also bring the 'Greg Bear' text much closer down to the 'EON' text so the eye sees one collection of type elements rather than two collections of type elements. That way the eye sees a cleaner overall image

[Gunilla]

Hi there! Sure, just as the rest I prefer the right one - great magic feel. As for the text I was just going to say almost exactly the same comments as Mark. I think the thin font looks best and the idea of spreding the name and lower it sounds like a good solution. Perhaps you could try some overlay effect to have it blend into the background a bit so it doesn't steal the attention from her.
Great work as usual, it looks like you've warmed up by now :D

[shattered-fx]

Hi Sabrina,

The small nebulas looks great and I lke the new pose you made :thumbsup: except for the right hand, it still seems unnatural ..
I agree to mdavid that lowering down Mr. Bear's name nearer to EON will make it more unified..cheers!

-raffy

my EON entry

[daWinky]

Good Morning!

Hey Tiziano, thanks for your choice and the cheering:) !

Hi Tony, so also some nebulas for you:thumbsup: , ok and thanks for the visit!

Heya Mark, glad to hear that you see the scene the same way I do:) , I also had the feeling that there is a certain break in the story - and thanks a lot for your advices concerning the typography, exactly the basic information I need because i have no clue of text layout:bowdown: ...

Morning Gunie, so I hear the same from you about the text, very good! And I also like the thin font more, I'll try how it looks with an overlay, thanks for the suggestion:) ...

Hey Raffy, thanks for your comments, very appreciated:) - and though I'm quite satisfied with the posing now I'll have another look at the right hand!


Atm I'm rigging the Lanier model and texturing his clothes, I want to put him in the background, watching Patricia but standing clearly seperated from her, just to enhance the feeling that Patricia is alone in this moment...

-sabrina

[SweD]

Morning Sabrina,

This right blue fogged Nebula it's just well-thinking :) i love it in this actually shape.
Keep up Sabrina, waiting to see lanier in.

[Greatto]

Hello Sabrina :)
Great progress, I like her hair style:)
is it final pose?

btw, I like the right one :P

Good Luck:)

[ChewyPixels]

Hey Sabie! Thanks for dropping by my eon thread and thanks for the push. :) I'll be posting an update this week.

Did you get your heating problem solved? If not, I hope you get this fixed soon.

I like what you have so far. For the world, have you experimented with planets? Perhaps revealing the partial surface of a planet within the gate would make it look more interesting.

Also, Patricia's pose looks good except for her reaching left hand. I think it would look better if her wrist was twisted a little more towards the viewer so that her hand reads better. I hope you understand what I'm trying to say. :D

Anyway, keep up the hard work and I look forward to your next update! :)

[black-hand-77]

Hello, Sabrina!

Look, I have a question for you that's bothering me for some time. I have seen that a lot of the contestants conceive their works as a movie/book poster (with the EON logo, the headline "The world within worlds" and the name of the author). Is a mandatory request for this contest? And I'm asking this because I was unable to find this request any page dedicated to EON Challenge. Otherwise, I like your "clavicle" device and the mistery that surrounds Patricia when trying to touch it. Good luck!:thumbsup:

Radu.

[daWinky]

Good Morning!

Hey Cyril, thanks for cheering and a preview with Lanier is coming soon!:)

Thanks for the visit Timur, and I think Patricia's pose is more or less final, just a little tweaking and polishing;) ...

Hi Jesus, thanks for asking and yes: the heating problem is fortunately solved:rolleyes: !
I've tested different approaches for the gate and I'm quite satisfied with the look now, so there won't be major changes...And for you it's the left hand that you don't like? So a little tweaking is still necessary, I'll see what I can do to make it more convincing! Thanks for your support!:)

Hey Radu, thanks for your nice comment:) and concerning your question, the answer is definitely NO, you are not obliged to add any text, title or logo... the challenge is just to create material for the promotion of a (potential) blockbuster film based on EON, and so a kind of movie poster format with free space enough for adding the title or casting seems to be a good idea for me:wise: ...of course you're free to make an illustration without any text...you're only asked to add the comment that your scene is inspired by Greg Bear's EON if you post or use your picture elsewhere...


-sabrina

[daWinky]

http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/14/11748/11748_1166528855_medium.jpg (http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/14/11748/11748_1166528855_large.jpg)

Just a preview of the scene with Lanier, I had a clear intention with this background figure, but I'm not sure if it works the way I want...Lanier should give the scene some more depth and also show that Patricia is alone and apart from her friends after her decision to search for her lost earth...

[thebest]

cool updates sabie :bounce: just one thing :rolleyes: I think that he should be seen u know just a very small light
will do the trick........anyway just an idea but u rock :scream:
keep going :thumbsup:

[mdavid]

Hey Sabrina, the new font/typography is excellent. I like that a lot. :thumbsup:

I also like your idea of having Lanier appearing detached/separate. You're right in that Patricia goes through the gate alone, but it also seems to fit elegantly with the concept of Lanier being a partial. It's a clever way of suggesting that while being true to the idea that the partial would seem real.

So no crits from me. Just more cheering. This was an excellent update :)

[Lemog]

Morning Sabie... not sure at the first view... but finally, I mean Lanier could be good like that... a bit in the dark... but enriched by ray lights wihch comes of the background, rays especially materialized by kind of fog wich seem to leave of the ground... you also could re-enforce Lanier with a aura around him, as a edge of light... I hope my vision is understandable :scream:

An idea about her right hand... There's something a bit disturbing, but previously I don't know what exactly because when you have this kind of care, front of something unknown... you certainly have an attention and a pose with much tension... maybe the strange feeling is only because each finger are in the same line... make the exemple with your own hand... make tension and look... each finger comes placed very differently... the position, the angle, even if it's very small as difference, that make something not uniform... (I'm again afraid to don't be very clear with my explanation...)...

I hope that could help Sabie... and a nice day for you :)

[icedeyes]

Hey Sabrina... I would go with what Lemog said except the part about the partial of Lanier... I think that he should appear more like a ghost like figure (at least that is how i understood partials from the book worked)... Keep it up and keep us posted...

[daWinky]

Hey Tony, I'm also a little sad that I have to put Lanier so far in the background:shrug: , I had so much work with him...but I see if I can make him a little brighter and of course the details are still visible in the high resolution version...thanks for cheering:) !

Hey Mark, yes, your suggestions for the text worked good:thumbsup: , thanks again, I like it much more this way...and also glad to hear that you have no crits:) !

Hi Lolo, some volumelight around Lanier will certainly come, good idea to accentuate him this way:) ...and thank you also for your suggestion about the hand, I'll have another look at the pose and try to make it more convincing...and I will never again try to save time with a quick and dirty rig, meanwhile I've lost so much time with adjustments for the different poses:banghead: ...
And enjoy the rest of the day!

Hey there George, thanks for your visit and I'm not sure about the look of partials, I somehow thought they are more than identical clones...But of course there will be still some tweaking for Lanier, thanks for the suggestion:) !

-sabrina

[musi]

Hi Sabrina,

Very nice work!

...I'm not sure about the look of partials, I somehow thought they are more than identical clones...
I agree with you about partials, I thought they are almost impossible to differentiate from real humans.

Yeh, Patricia's pose needs a little more tweaking, specially hands. But I am sure you will get it well!

Looking forward for update!

Sasha
EON (http://forums.cgsociety.org/showthread.php?t=423648)

[daWinky]

Hey Sasha, thanks for your visit and your nice comment:) and especially to validate my thoughts about the partials! I was not sure about it and it's always good to hear a second opinion. The same for Patricia's hands, meanwhile I agree that this need more adjusting!


No time for another update before Christmas, I'm off now for an extended Holidays weekend and already wish you all some great days with family and friends or however you prefer to spent the Christmas time!:wavey:

http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d129/daWinky/HappyHolidays.jpg

-sabrina

[Lemog]

Congrats Sabie... Patricia is so cute like that... you see, you can give easily a good pose... the reig setup is complete now ?

While waiting you back... I wish you some best holidays and especially good time and rest with the people you love... then, happy end of year and see you soon for the story continuation:bounce: cheers :love:

lolo...

[musi]

Hi Sabrina,

Patricia looks so natural here, just great :thumbsup:! And I am sure you will get another pose as good as this one.
Have a very nice holidays weekend and enjoy your Christmas!

Sasha
EON (http://forums.cgsociety.org/showthread.php?t=423648)

[chandro]

nice work! can you render a close up on her face?

[thebest]

Merry christmas :bounce: sabie make sure u have fun :scream:

[OKMER]

Hey Sabrina, just isn't time for crits, as your image is coming better and better each time so just wanted to say:Have a nice Christmas and enjoy your holidays!!!May the snow be with you!

[Zapan]

Heya Sabie !!

Thanks a lot for your kind comment in my thread , really sweet ... :love: yes , as you noticed I got several things to handle in the same time so I'm a bit afraid that my challenge entry will never take off ... But I do keep following yours .. and it's still going on so well ... :applause:

Anyway , I'm dropping by to wish you and all the team happy holidays ... with a lot of fun , presents , and rests with your family and friends ... :)

And since I'm waiting for my new machine , I should start a new project really soon because I just can't wait to put myslef into some personnal stuff again and hanging out with you guys all ...
So ... That's for the news ... :)

Happy holidays Sabie and the team

cheers ,

-Steph

[Ivy00]

ha ha love Patricia with the hat, Merry Christmas Sabrina :)

[LightSovereign]

I am liking where this piece is going, it has mystery. I am always partial to watery gate effects myself, the blue colour is gorgeous ^^.

congratz :D

Marley

[nwiz25]

hey Sabrina! wishing u and ur family a very merry christmas! :bounce: :love:
http://nwiz25.cgsociety.org/gallery/444492/

cheers! :beer:



> its been so long since i've seen ur post! n man! its fantastic! :eek: :eek: how on earth did u get those rock textures n all?! :eek: partricia is just amazing! :love: good work dear! keep em comin! :thumbsup:

[Gunilla]

Ahh, Santa Patricia is really sweet!
Happy holidays, what's left of them and thanks for the greeting in my thread :)

[TheFirstAngel]

merry xmas and happy holidays to you too :) very sweet rendershot of patricia :) santa's sweet little helper ^^

[Greatto]

Greetings:)
Just saw ur last update:) haha
I wish you a lot of fun and all ur dreams come true....
and wish you Happy New Year.... :)
cya...

[thebest]

Happy New year Sabie and hehe lol couldn`t post a reply without saying Keep going lol:twisted:

[daWinky]

Good Morning!

Lolo, Sasha, Chandro, Tony, Remko, Stéph, Linda, Marley, Neville, Gunilla, Sacha, Timur and Tony again: Thanks for the good wishes:love: !
I hope you all had nice holidays and some time to rest...


Looking at my scene now I just have the wish to finish it soon, so I'm back at work and hope to show the next update tomorrow...

Wish you all a great start in 2007!:bounce:


-sabrina

[Lemog]

Morning Sabie, and again an Happy New Year 2007... the final line for the challenge is near now... You will be able to use the energy of the new year to finish it soon perfectly :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce:

[Gunilla]

Morning Sabie - great to see you back!
And now - lets start rushing and finish our entries in style :thumbsup:

[gpepper]

hey, Sabie, cool work here !
Empty a bit in my opinion. Are you near to finish ?

Oh, Happy new year too !

[icedeyes]

Just stopping by to wish you a happy new year, health and hapiness... have fun and finish the challenge:D...

[daWinky]

Good Morning!

Hey Lolo, yes, the deadline is near and I'm quite eased about that, I had some good ideas during the challenge, unfortunately not for this project:scream: ...so it's about time to finish this now and start something new!:bounce:

Morning Gunie, and it's good to see you back too, also eager to finish the challenge soon:) ...

Hey Gilles, happy new year for you too and nice to see you again for a visit. You think it's empty here, eh? Let's call it minimalism:D , though I've to admit that it is for this challenge not so much a matter of personal taste but a lack of time...and my focus is more on the characters, perhaps not the good decision for this theme but a good learning step for me...Hope to see you with more time for your own entry in the next challenge:) !

Heya George, thank you and a happy new year for you too:wavey: !



-sabrina

[SONIC-X]

Hey Sabrina ,whats up!

Looking great.

See ya later.
Corrie

[daWinky]

Hey Corrie, nice to see you here again:wavey: , thanks for your comment and I just discovered in your thread that you have the chance now to continue with your scene, so good luck with your race against the time:) !

-sabrina

[daWinky]

http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/14/11748/11748_1167901501_medium.jpg (http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/14/11748/11748_1167901501_large.jpg)

I've tried to adjust Patricia's pose, mainly the hands and started to add some lighting effects...

[Lemog]

It mean you can keep the hands like that... okay for me... more light effects and of course more atmosphere effects... to have an stronger mood...

...maybe some light/color effects like boreal aurora... that could give some interesting touches... almost magical and mysterious... :)

[mdavid]

Hey Sabrina, it's never bothered me that you're going for a minimalist look because I figured you were just being true to the book - there were no structures in that section of the Way. I really like the new lighting effects by the way. The light hitting Patricia's left hand is especially beautiful and realistic. Wonderful stuff!

I like Lemog's idea for atmospheric effects. I'm thinking of something similar that might be helpful (if it's not helpful then don't hesitate to discard it!) At that stage of the book the northern corridor was starting to glow from the approaching plasma front, which might be fun in case you want ideas for the background. But I understand that time is limited and I already love what you're doing. Best of luck to you as you sprint to the finish

[thebest]

I got an idea :bounce: what do u think of making the reflection of the gate on her eyes lol :wise:
did u get my idea :rolleyes: ? ...........as always great update so keep going :twisted: waiting for more :scream:

[ChewyPixels]

Hi Sabie! Thanks for dropping by my thread to give me that much needed boost. :D

I see that you took my advice with the pose change. Definitely much better and is exactly what I was thinking about. I also really love the lighting effect on the hand. Looks great!

Well, looking forward to your next update tomorrow. Go, go, go!! :bounce:

[HFix]

i like the background...something about the hand that is reaching out to the glowing orb thing is not looking right to me...her thumb just looks shrunken to me...but nice work so far!! :)


-Eon Link-
http://forums.cgsociety.org/showthread.php?postid=4109615

[musi]

Hey Sabrina,

Your last update is very good - it looks like you are about to finish :).
I agree with Lemog about more atmospheric effects, it will add more depth to your backgrounds. like your lighting a lot! I would probably make lighting on her left hand brighter...
I have a little note: Patricia's left hand looks a bit strange, I guess because it's too thin. It may be your deformations collapsing the top of her hand. if you will have time and possibility, you could look at that hand and may be make a little corrective modeling on it.

Waiting for the next update!
Sasha
EON (http://forums.cgsociety.org/showthread.php?t=423648)

Is that your cat there?

[daWinky]

Good Morning!


Hey Lolo, so eased to hear that the hands are ok now for you, I can't see them anymore:rolleyes: ...and some more light/atmospheric effects are on the way! Thanks for your always helpful comments:) !

Heya Mark, ah, the plasma front, good suggestion though I have no clear imagination how this should look like...I'll make a quick try for the next upload:) !

Hi Tony, I'm not sure if I understand, you want the eyes more reflective?? I have a look on that and thanks for the "keep going":D !

Hey Jesus, glad that you like the change of the pose:) ! Thanks for your visit and I hope you'll like the next update too...

Hey Holly, thanks for the visit and your nice comment here!:)

Hi Sasha, yes, I really hope to finish soon and good to hear that you like the adjustments...it seems the hands are still not perfect but the best I can do atm:shrug: ...
Is that your cat there?Hmmm, yes...at least he's accepting me as his foot-can-opener;) ...


-sabrina

[daWinky]

http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/14/11748/11748_1168238926_medium.jpg (http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/14/11748/11748_1168238926_large.jpg)

More lighting-/atmospheric effects...I'm not sure about the "plasma-front" in the background...

[Lemog]

Morning Sabie...

I like much the plasma effect... and that could be more visible and contrasted... light effects are a great addition... and more again will be better for me... especially in the low part, where it's really dark... and around her... and why some big stones on the floor, not much (1, 2 or 3...), but just to don't have a ground to much uniform ?

...a nice week for you :)

[Gunilla]

Morning!
And excellent suggestion from Lolo on the stones - could be a great addition.
Beginning of plasma effect looks good too - one thing I kind of miss though is the darkness in the top area - it gave the scene a bit creepy mood.

Good luck for your final steps now :)

[Ivy00]

Hey hey Sabrina :) I dont' have any crits to offer, I just wanted to stop by and cheer you on , it is looking great

[mdavid]

Cheering from me too! The plasma is working brilliantly. :thumbsup:

[icedeyes]

I agree with the previous posts... plasma works... stones might be in order...:scream:

have fun Sabrina...

[daWinky]

Morning Lolo, thanks again for your suggestions, more effects and some stones...it's noted...I've already tried more contrast for the "plasma", but this looks somehow off...and a nice week for you too:) !

Hey Gunie, hmmm, actually I have darkened the foreground and beside of the clouds/haze the upper part wasn't changed...I see if I can adjust this, thanks for the hint;) !

Hello Linda, some cheering is always welcome, thank you:) !

Hey Mark, thanks again for the plasma idea:bowdown: , and also for the cheering...!

Hi George, thanks for the support, it's about time for me to finish this now and I'll have fun again when I'm uploading the scene:D ...

Next update is coming soon...!


-sabrina

[daWinky]

http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/14/11748/11748_1168326021_medium.jpg (http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/14/11748/11748_1168326021_large.jpg)

I've tried to pick up some of the suggestions...

[SONIC-X]

Hi Sabrina, your scene is looking great http://forums.cgsociety.org/images/icons/icon13.gif

[thebest]

nice work Sabie keep going :thumbsup:

[OKMER]

Hi Sabrina!!!Happy new year and a the luck,love,health and inspiration to you!

I Love your pic, nice clean and clear!Really nice close atmosphere.
There is just one thing that feels a bit strange to me ,the cross(i hope i say this right in english)between her legs seems just a tiny little bit blown up.Maybe tighten that a bit up.Really sorry for my english,i hope you understand.
Second thing is that I think while they are doing researches in the stone, they proberly have a lot of stuff on them, and so some pockets ,zippers, etc would make her costume a bit more rich and fonctional.that's just my two cents.
Big up Sabrina!!!
:beer:

[OZ]

WOW! great updates! Patricia looks so sweet....fantasic skin and i like a lot the pose too!

[Nothingness]

Hey sabrina,

great work!

only suggestion is that i find there is too little contrast in the background compared to the contrast on patricia. The only real dark areas in the overal image are only on the patricia model.


aufwiedersehen

[mdavid]

I like the scene a lot. No crits from me

[element5]

sabrina you rock! :thumbsup:

[daWinky]

Hey Corrie, thanks, I like to hear that:) !

Ah, Tony, don't know what to do without your motivating "keep going" when I've finally uploaded the scene:D ...thanks a lot for your great support here!

Hey Remko, thanks and all my best wishes for the new year to you too:wavey: ! Glad that you like the scene and I also see the points you've mentioned, I could have done more for the details... unfortunately I had less time then expected for the challenge and so I'm just doing the last touch-ups now...

Hi Fabio, great to see you here again and thanks for the nice comment! And I'm also very eased to see that you're updating your trailer thread again, I'm crossing my fingers that you can make it in time:) !

Hey there Nico, hmmm, yes, I've lost a little contrast on the background with all the fog and haze added...I see if I can adjust this, thanks for the hint and your visit;) !

Hehe Mark, I always have a bright smile on my face when I see the innocent bystander in your avatar...and your comment is just the last push I need to finish the scene now...big thanks for your great support here:love: !

Hi Mark, thats nice to hear, thank you:) !

So, I just have to make a few little adjustments and hope that I can upload my final picture soon:bounce: ...

-sabrina

[ChewyPixels]

Great to hear that you're nearing the end. I do think you should know, however, that the deadline has been extended! :bounce: We still have 21 days! Sweeeeeettttt!! :bounce: :bounce:

Now you can polish it a bit more if you like. :)

[nwiz25]

hey Sabrina! :bounce: :scream: lookin good dear! :arteest: :grin: me waits patiently for ur final work! :love: so many talented members! overwhelming! :eek:


wishing u the very best of luck Sabrina! :thumbsup:

cheers to u! :beer:

[thebest]

Ah, Tony, don't know what to do without your motivating "keep going" when I've finally uploaded the scene:D ...thanks a lot for your great support here!

no worry Sabie you are more than welcome :scream:

[daWinky]

Hey Jesus, huh:eek: , I only got the reminder for the old deadline, no notification for the new, thanks for this information, I'd certainly have missed this:twisted: ! But my time is already planned for other things and so I have to finish this now. I hope you can make good use of this extra time, I'll still follow your progress:) !


Hey there Neville, always bringing your good mood in my thread:) , thanks for your nice words and the good wishes!


Hehe, Tony, you're "the best":thumbsup: !



Though I just discovered the extended deadline, I'll finish now with my planned scene, in my thoughts I'm already in other projects...What I need now is a long and relaxed weekend and then onto new adventures in the next week:cool: ...and of course following the threads of the challengers which are still busy:) ...

-sabrina

[daWinky]

http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/14/11748/11748_1168513469_medium.jpg (http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/14/11748/11748_1168513469_large.jpg)

After exploring the disturbing secrets of the suddenly appeared asteroid in the orbit and helplessly watching the terrible nuclear war on earth there are mainly 2 different directions for the people on the asteroid to decide between:
Some of them want to stay in the orbit and help the poor rest of manhood to survive and rebuild the earth. Another part of these people decide to go further in the future, facing the oncoming menace of alien invasisons...
Only Patricia is not part of one of these two groups, the only thing she wants is to go back home...back to the world that not longer exists and back to the beloved people not longer alive...With the all destroying plasma front already approaching there are only minutes for Patricia's lonely decision to find and open the one gate that will bring herself back home... back to her world within the worlds...

[mdavid]

Bravo!! Much cheering from Sydney. This thread has been wonderful to follow. Patricia is beautifully done and the atmospheric effects give the scene a depth and a suggestion of mysticism perfect for that part of the book. Congratulations on an excellent finish, Sabrina. I hope you enjoy your (well deserved) rest before you take on your next adventure

[SONIC-X]

Hey Sabrina ,your final image look realy great.
I love the right up.http://forums.cgsociety.org/images/icons/icon10.gif

[Lemog]

Hello Sabie...

well done and well finished... stones are simply great in your pic and that enrich surely this part...
All works very good for me... clean but not poor... while watching this poster, we can imagine a lot about the story... a vision wich could give the envy to know mode, to read more about the book and the Eon universe.

Congratulations for this great moment of challengre... that was as always very intense and very interesting, and I'm sure that each time you participate, you are always progressing in your art and in your skills.

Cheers... and of course... my wishes are with you for the final way :thumbsup:

PS: take some rest... and show us soon maybe a wallpaper more adapted to our screens... :scream: thanks for the show...

[GonzaloGolpe]

Hi there! so, you´ve finished your work:thumbsup: :bounce: well-done! Like so much the texture of the background. Good luck to you!:thumbsup:

[Gunilla]

Fantastic Sabie! :applause:

I love the way this turned out and as always your thread had been a treat to follow. You just continue to impress me... well done, dudette :scream:

[Ivy00]

Congratulations , the image is wonderful and I can't really say anything that Mdavid and Lemog have not said already :) :applause:

[musi]

Hey Sabrina,

You did it! And it looks great, I must say:thumbsup:!
Congratulations, it's a very fine and expressive peace of work, something to be proud of!

Sasha
EON (http://forums.cgsociety.org/showthread.php?t=423648&page=6&pp=15)

[Try]

Hey Congratulations Sabrina!

Here I stop by CGtalk to find out Mark is finished… And now you to…:)
Patricia looks just good enough to eat!

The best of luck with the judging!!



I`m cheering fore you!:bounce:

[Grin3d]

:thumbsup:

C O N G R A T U L A T I O N S ! Sabrina ! Well done !
Good luck with the judging ! :)

roman : grin3d

[TheFirstAngel]

congrats on your great final Sabie! wonderful piece, love it to its bits! best of luck on the finaljudgments :)

[black-hand-77]

You did a realy cool job. I like Patricia. She's like a cute curious cat. Very cool! Good luck till the end! :thumbsup:

[artvandeley]

Congrats on finishing. Looks very cool and nails the mood perfectly!

Very stable and yet vivid compostion, this works surprisingly good. Wow!

[nwiz25]

:applause:

congratulations to u my dear!
u've reached the end...
a mission accomplished!
i salute u my friend...

a vision so beautiful!
i can't deny...
i wish you the best!
May god help you fly!

:love:



cheers Sabie!



:beer:

[daWinky]

Good Morning!

Ah, I love this part of the challenge, the work is done and there's only left to say "thank you" for all the support and interest!


Hey Mark, thanks for the cheering from Sydney and a big hug for your continued support and all your comments:thumbsup: !


Hi Corrie, I'm glad that you like my final result and thanks for following my thread!:)


Hey Lolo, the picture wouldn't be the same without your "morning thoughts" and all the good suggestions:bowdown: ...I agree that the challenges are always good to learn something new beside the regular stuff and your support helps me a lot with this. Thanks for all the motivation and some kisses and hugs to you:love: !


Hola Gonzalo, thanks for your good wishes!:)


Hi Gunie, wow, your comment makes me proud:blush: , thanks for this and of course for always being around and having a critical look on each update. A big hug for you!


Hey Linda, thanks for the nice words and for your support during the challenge!


Hi Sasha, thank you for following the final steps here and your nice comment!


Hello Per, here you are again! Too sad that you hadn't the time to finish your entry, but I've heard you had some demanding film projects...so better luck for the next challenge. And so nice that you find the time to have another look in here, thanks for the cheering!:)


Hey Roman, thanks for the good wishes!


Hi Sacha, I'm glad to hear that you like the final picture! Thank you for your always motivating comments!


Hello Radu, thanks for the cheering!


Hallo Torsten, freut mich zu hören, dass Dir das Bild gefällt! Danke für Deinen Besuch!:wavey:


Hi Neville, oh, almost poetic;) , thanks for finding so nice words for me and for your help during the challenge!



-sabrina

[SweD]

i'm too late, as always :scream:
but i still want give you my congrats for finishing your illustration, and wish you good luck for the rest to come.
And i want to thank you too for the support on my thread.
i hope to have pleasure to see you around now and then.

[scootermaya]

I don't believe I've been much of a support:scream:

Anyway, I want to congratulate you for this wonderfull final picture :thumbsup:

Bravo!

[thebest]

oh I think I`am late for the big reply but u have done a great job "as expected":)
hope to see more wips soon :scream: keep up the good work and as always keep going :thumbsup:

[daWinky]

Hey Cyril, it's never too late for some cheering, so thank you very much! And I'm still watching your thread, one of my favorites in the model section, good luck for the final steps:) !


Bonjour Michel, thank you for the congratulations! And too sad that you had no time for your own entry...I hope to see you soon back here around with other projects:) !


Heya Tony:bounce: , thank you so much for all your "keep goings" here, very much appreciated:thumbsup: ! And the WIPs are already on my mind, at least I hope to come back to my sketchbook thread soon...Seeya:wavey: !


-sabrina

[icedeyes]

Great job Sabrina... you had an idea for this scene and managed to pull it off very nicelly... Just dropped by to wish you the best of luck with the contest... Take a rest and have fun...

[mmoir]

Hey Sabrina,

Nice to see your strong finish here:thumbsup: :thumbsup: . I really like the Patricia character , the position of her hands and face, great job. I also like the background style. To bad Patricia didn't quite make it back home. Good luck with this and see you later.

[makaron]

hallo Sabrina :)

and have to congrat you to a really nice image. Like the look on her face and the overall feeling you created in it...

and Good Luck :bounce:

[MartinNielsen]

Congrats Sabrina.

Patricia looks soooo fine here. :)