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nice work!! i like 'B' because i like the pink around the text..i think it brings it out more :)
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http://forums.cgsociety.org/showthread.php?postid=4109615
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TheFirstAngel
01-06-2007, 06:56 AM
k thanks all for oppinions, i am actually trying to find a ballance between b and c before i go back to the final detailpass. too tired to finish the actual pass but will be back here after a bit of rest :)
NinjaA55N
01-06-2007, 10:30 AM
A very short answer.. I think the C is the right choice :)
mosconariz
01-06-2007, 05:52 PM
Mmmm... Double post :D
mosconariz
01-06-2007, 05:58 PM
C, and that's it, CGS' server is busy & deleting my messages, aurgh, that's why I didn't answered yesterday
Thaldir
01-07-2007, 02:27 PM
A vote for C as well.:)
notpill
01-07-2007, 02:55 PM
B for me
better balanced and more focused on the charcters
anyway, awesome work sacha:thumbsup:
angel
01-07-2007, 05:55 PM
Hey Sacha, nice work!
I personally like B better. To me it is cleaner and not so busy. The overhang structure on the other ones is a bit much imo, making it too busy, there are just too many point of interest but removing that overhang helped balancing it. Also I like the ship on the far bottom right to face towards the inside of the canvas instead of the outside edge, it keeps the viewer "inside" the image.
Looking forward to more:thumbsup:
TheFirstAngel
01-07-2007, 06:11 PM
http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/14/11653/11653_1168193459_medium.jpg (http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/14/11653/11653_1168193459_large.jpg)
ok, we have a *D* version, funky orange and i would like to hear how you like it :)
coCoKNIght
01-07-2007, 06:27 PM
orange is cool but i think it somehow lost some depht, so if you can add more depht to the orange version, then go for it! :) also i like the only indicated tube on top. cheers!
Ivy00
01-07-2007, 06:42 PM
hmm I like the way it breaks up the blue a bit, but maybe not so much of the orange???? Heck I don't know , ha ha I have been looking at my own entry for hours today, I think I need a break, lol, my eyes are a bit buggy. I do like some of the orange color in yours though.
TheFirstAngel
01-07-2007, 10:19 PM
http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/14/11653/11653_1168208368_medium.jpg (http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/14/11653/11653_1168208368_large.jpg)
now slowly takes the direction i hoped it would. now tons of details to paint back but i think the skyworks were worth it. oh, and thanks for pointing out the "headturn", done that exactly for that reason :)
here's a little update on the header
Ivy00
01-08-2007, 12:44 AM
looking great, just some encouragement to keep you going. I can't wait to see it finished :)
DrIvErD
01-08-2007, 12:56 AM
its cool i cant wait to see it finished
TheFirstAngel
01-08-2007, 05:36 AM
http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/14/11653/11653_1168234580_medium.jpg (http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/14/11653/11653_1168234580_large.jpg)
ok, this is the composition i'll stick with, started detailing painted in the first nuances of a background in the lower right corner, also refined the silhuettes of the cityscape, set values right in the whole part down there and tweaked coloramounts. i hope you like the new composition, i am happy with the wider colorrange it has now and its fun to paint in it again ^^ much work left but getting there. any suggestions c&c's most welcome.
zweiDee
01-08-2007, 06:00 AM
nice work mister! i like the colors, the concept of the complementary colors orange and blue. i think so you can make a cool atmosphere with the sky in the background and the technical buildings in the front. fresh details also, very cool piece.
my suggestion. make the bus orange with blue flowers. for me pls. hihi, so im out. gn8
kmest
01-08-2007, 10:03 AM
looking great sacha...the overal red/orang color on the image fadong to blue in the lower parts made it look like a real Sci-Fi poster,,,but i just feel taht the uper parts are somehow empty,,think there sould be more....even fade in the sky,
everything looks gret,,i like your style,,and please,do you finish painting other elements like the girl face??:)
this is getting better and better,,,keep going...
DARTH FARSAD
LightSovereign
01-08-2007, 10:24 AM
that truly feels like a traditional piece of artwork. congratz on a fine composition..very much in the style of traditional movie posters, (the quality of which i think have gone down over the years). Patricia is particularly striking. has that sultry rhona mitra look :bounce:
cool axis design aswell!
fantastic work so far
Marley
SONIC-X
01-08-2007, 10:28 AM
Hi Sacha,
Your work is looking great.
Keep it up friend.
icedeyes
01-08-2007, 02:38 PM
I love the introduction of more colors in the pallete... Brighter top gives more room to the characters too... lower right part does look a better... all i have to say is great work so far... cant wait to see it finished...
walrus
01-08-2007, 02:55 PM
Hmm, some big changes since the last time I posted... I like what you've done with Axis City.
I like the new head sizes, but Lanier's neck position seems particularly extreme and uncomfortable. After the photshoot he was crying "Oooowww! My neck! He made me hold that position for a whole week! Ow ow ow ow ow!" It's not an impossible position, just a less natural one than you had before. I acutally liked the posing of the heads better before: They were all looking out from the center, which helped emphasize the perspective lines in your piece that are also all radiating out from the center. I don't feel that the change has made it stronger.
As for the colors, I thought that the stronger emphasis on blues made it more mysterious and more "science-fictiony." i liked the hints of warm light in A and C that balanced out the cool toned, but here, I agree with Ivy that it feels like you might have taken it too far... But at this point I just want to grab you and shake you and demand you to finish it and stop losing time fixing what ain't broken! :)
-mike
Thaldir
01-08-2007, 03:04 PM
Amen to that!
I've been watching this develop for a long while, at one point worrying that you might have decided to drop the challenge. I'm mighty glad you didn't, but this isn't the time for playing with variation, imho.
So gear up and finish, will you? (I must be a masochist, why do I hurt myself... ;) )
artvandeley
01-08-2007, 11:48 PM
Yeah, maybe youīre somewhat chaotic like me who need some pressure to focus on the important things to do.
Here is what you should do:
First of all: Finish it. Donīt look left and right, just do it the best you can in one big effort.
Second: Think again about colours and contrasts.
Third: Where needed push some pixels or add some details.
Fourth: Enjoy your finished work.
This is already awesome and you really can make it.
Thanks btw for the nice words in my thread:bounce:
TheFirstAngel
01-10-2007, 03:08 AM
http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/14/11653/11653_1168398523_medium.jpg (http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/14/11653/11653_1168398523_large.jpg)
ok, this prolly is the last composition change, added more hanging buildings up there and brought back the blue in the lower part of the header.
Tomorrow, my last comission deadline before the end of the challenge wich i couldn't extend should be done, so i'll take my days off to bring this piece to its final. hope you like the compositionupdate, now speedpainting more details :D
TheFirstAngel
01-10-2007, 03:28 AM
zweiDee: well i'll think about the hippiebus when all other details are done, promise ^^
kmest: thanks for that hint. stuffed it with hanging skyscrappers mow, hope its less emty with this update. yep the whole piece is supposed to look at least as polished like the girls face i i am done with it. promisse :)
LightSovereign: thanks a lot mate. well the traditional feel might come from i just paint like i would with any medium, years ago worked with my beloved badger gfx freehandairbrush and fast attack acrylics. digital might be less tasty in the material but the workflow has not really changed much. ^^ glad you like the piece so far, its still on the sketchy side but 1 more day of comissionstress and i'll be 100% eon-ized ^^
SONIC-X: tonsa thanks old friend! rock on too!
icedeyes: hehe thonkees. yeah the lower part actually looks a bit more busy but i'll take care of it now. tonsa detailwork still ahead but gettin there :)
walrus: agree laniers neck actually doesnt work for me either, prolly will repaint that or his whole face.
brought back cool tones to ballance out the warm cold, actually with some blue fog, hope that works.
Thaldir: hehe no sir, its just the challenge effect. thats typical, the challenge lasts 1 month and then hell breaks loose, a pubisher wants a 15 peces series, 5new comissions come in and 2 change deadlines lineup nearby on the challengeend. no drop but a fight on a place not realy funny, its been like that before and i done what i can to get the works i gotten in done as fast as possible :) thanks for worries, no need to, so far back in and doing what i was supposed to do all the time, bring the piece to its end :)
artvandeley: hehe yeah chaotic might hit the point but there's another thing you might know. you look at a piece that long you start dislike this and that starre again dislike more things, suddenly dislike the whole thing and start testing what can be done to change the piece to somethng you like again ^^
this goes out to all of you tons of thanks thanks thanks! i am actually stressed and a bit upset cuz of my unhappy client timing and doing my best on the outpost on the borders of shittyland^^ thank you so much for your encouragements!!! you ROCK!!!:beer::buttrock::beer:
prabath
01-10-2007, 05:44 AM
Hey Sacha your new post is wild & awesome.Hope to see the final touches soon.All the best to you.
Cheers!
OKMER
01-10-2007, 10:42 AM
Hey Yesss Sacha mate!!!YOU ROCK!!!
Personaly I prefered the 4 person's composition and the colorpalette you had before.
Seemed a bit more dynamic to me.Now I have a bit the feel the pic is cut in two with alot of contrast and powerfull colors in the lower part and a bit too less in the upper part.
But I know you work that out and no matter which option you'll go for this image totally blows the roof of anyway!!!Hey, 21 days left!!!ha,ha oooh yesss, so more strokes to go:beer:Keep on rocking Hard Sasha!Wheeeehaaaa:bounce:
rawwad
01-10-2007, 02:38 PM
Itīs working pretty well, i like it! Did you finish it at time? I hope that yes, because it looks great and itīs not one, but five images in one, which is excelently. Keep working Sacha:thumbsup:
nwiz25
01-10-2007, 07:57 PM
hey buddy! amazing! i see a lot of change! n man am i zapped or wat! :eek:
rockin color combination! lots of space! this one hits the spot!
i love it bro! :love: :buttrock: :applause::D
cant wait to c the grand finale! :eek:
keep rockin buddy! heres to u! :beer:
good luck!:thumbsup:
MartinNielsen
01-10-2007, 10:00 PM
Nice, nice and nice :thumbsup:
You're a champion.
thebest
01-11-2007, 07:36 AM
20 days to go :eek: man u should work harder grrrrrrrr go sacha :bounce: go sacha :bounce: go sacha :bounce:
I have confident in you mate u will do it :thumbsup:
Nomad
01-11-2007, 11:25 AM
Nice progress Sacha :thumbsup:
Great work so far :bounce:
Neubius
01-11-2007, 11:29 AM
can't wait to see it finished! superb.
good luck:)
ginoshu
01-12-2007, 12:05 AM
Nice begining...I think the color it's a little cold...maybe a yellow, here and there, will make it more "friendly"!...and a suggestion...I think the characters around the girl...is challenging in size one with another. So play more with the sizes!;) Good luck!
TheFirstAngel
01-12-2007, 05:30 AM
ahaha i feel like racing on the beloved old daytona racegame again, timeextension! weeeee!
i thought i share that feeling and post you my happiness (duh, i just was confused when i seen the timer and then read mibus's post)
http://www.angel3d.ch/content/challenge/xtra/tuberiding_again.jpg
prabath: thanks mate, playing with it at the moment so next post when i get it to a clearer updatestage, since i got more time now, i think i got more time to play with it again^^
OKMER: actually playing with colors, trying different colorsets and a few composition possebileties - but since i am tired i think i'll prolly go to sleep earlier tonight than i did the nights before :)
rawwad: thanks mate. yeah was almost goin for a suicide painting session when i got it too that the time was extended. seems like the fun goes on :)
nwiz25: thanks a lot mate. well that colorset is just temporary, actually playing much with it and hope i get out the best of the actual composition. more time more playing :) yay!
MartinNielsen: of what? lol i'd knew :p ahahah but thankees!
thebest: ahaha thanks mate! weeee yeah just got it that time was extended! happiness and joy and laughter! thanks mate, errr yeah will work :p
Nomad: thanks old friend :)
Neubius thanks mate, cant wait either, but well, now actually trying to get it better so might take a day off to play more with composition possebileties - gl 2 u 2
ginoshu: yeah, right. working on that, trying out different stuff :) thanks for the review mate.
TheFirstAngel
01-12-2007, 06:36 AM
http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/14/11653/11653_1168583740_medium.jpg (http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/14/11653/11653_1168583740_large.jpg)
one of the colortests i am actually doing, also worked much on the details. more updates after a lil nap :)
black-hand-77
01-12-2007, 11:22 AM
Daca nu termini e vina ta! This is actually a rhyme, translated from romanian like this SACHA SACHA If you don't finish is your fault! :scream: You did a cool and elaborated piece of poster composition. Very balanced and Hollywood like. I like it a lot, especially the tough little cutie Patricia character! Finish this because it should look astonishing. Good luck, pal!
EON ZOOLAND (http://forums.cgsociety.org/showthread.php?threadid=415554)
TheFirstAngel
01-13-2007, 02:22 AM
:) thanks mate, will keep on it, now that i have more time i am actually trying a few things with the composition. also turned the heads back and tried a warmer mainlightsetup, but since i gotten no feedback on it i am not really sure if its better or not. any comments on the colortest?
OKMER
01-13-2007, 03:14 AM
Hi Sacha Buddy!:wavey:
Well actualy,even if I love the Pink beams of the ships on the orange background, I still prefer your more purple/bleuish version.
Personally I think the more orange sky above is quit close to the colors of the character's skin's and so they pop out less easily then before.
Now I feel the characters and the globe in front don't come out that well and it's more difficult for the eye to travel easily through the image.
just my two cents bro!!!may ze wurzz be wizz you :beer: :beer:
TheFirstAngel
01-13-2007, 08:59 AM
http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/14/11653/11653_1168678777_large.jpg
now i'd be very very thankful for feedbacks since this is a very hard decision. i played around with my composition in the last 2 days basically cuz i was unhappy because it looked very static. i think i found the final composition nnow, might change things on the colors but mainly am happier with the feel of it. stick with it? pleas let me know if this works.
old or new layout?
TheFirstAngel
01-13-2007, 09:02 AM
okmer : thank you so much for your feedback, used a blueish colorschem on my test here... works better?
xric7
01-13-2007, 09:14 AM
hi sacha,go for your love,the new one.eheh.enjoy ur 18 days.:bounce:
cheer bro
Ivy00
01-13-2007, 10:00 AM
hmm I dont' know Sacha, to be honest I had to save the last 3 updates you put up and will compare them side by side in PS or something
Ivy00
01-13-2007, 10:20 AM
ok, now just remember I am the voice of inexperience talking here... but after looking at them all
I like the Eon under the characters
I am not sure if I like the lines above the characters, it is giving me more of a feel they are stuck in a tube rather than the chamber like feel
I am also not sure about the ships position on the bottom, it looks unbalanced on the bottom with it there, even though you dropped Olmy some to try to balance it out, it makes the characters look unbalanced to me also.
Anyway, that is kind of what I see and not sure what the solution would be to balance it out more. As you know I am not exactly good at balancing compositions , ha ha
Norberg
01-13-2007, 10:37 AM
When you work on the same image for this long you eventually grow tired of it and start to make changes that arenīt nessesary. I do it all the time.
I think the first layout with the blue colors worked better than these last versions and since it is a movieposter the static composition, as you describe it, works really well.
Itīs a really cool image by the way.
Norberg
01-13-2007, 10:40 AM
Sorry. he he. Now when I look at your new layout I really like it. Go with that one instead.
Ivy00
01-13-2007, 01:16 PM
ok ok, I gave it a few hours (mostly for me to wake up, I really should not post at 5 and 6 am ) Anyway , the more I look at your new comp the more I like it... so I was thinking maybe move Mirsky down a bit to balance the curve of the characters? Just a little tiny bit , not so far that his head is even with Laniers though... and here I go rambling again, ha ha maybe I am not as awake as I thought I was.
OKMER
01-13-2007, 01:52 PM
Ouuh yes baby, I feel you are getting there!
I do feel also you're hesitating a lot and for that's it's true what Norberg said, that the longer you're on a image the more start hesitating, espcialy when you're near the finish.
Personaly I think your first composition worked out very well and proberly it was your most impulsive one,the one you felt from the start, and like we use to say in Holland(where I'm from), "your heart's first words are most of the time the most true"...
But at the same,like your hesitating, your heart doesn't seems to see what he intended in the beginning.And that's when the head takes over and you came up with your new compo here.(whoooaaa,I should stop the dru** i hear you say,ha,ha)
And I think it really rocks too baby!!!ha,ha!!Both of them have a lot of potential!
Although I agree with Ivy00 that now some elements in your image seems a bit out of bal
If you feel your characters a bit too static, did you thought already about maybe putting some more action in them?
Maybe like one of them holding a pocket-holograpic screen watching it, or a weapon, a special stone, anything that's related with the story and gives the character something to do.
Did you maybe thought about putting in a 5th character like a frant maybe?
(be careful with them, one of them almost fu**ed it all up in my image,ha,ha)
But like Joe used to sing,:"Try a little help from my Frant"...
This could maybe rebalance a bit more your composition and your characters.
I'll say,go baby!!!
Whatever you do it always makes me dream and your work is extremely inspiring!!!
:beer: :beer: :beer:
Frant : Yurfffouiii, oi, liou, urf,urf....
Remko : Hey what?You again?....
Remko : get out of here, right now!!!
Frant : huyi,makaka,poi,poi!
Remko : I dont give a damn, no matter what you say, now you better get out of this thread before you fu** it all up over here also!You've seen what you did to my thread,han???
Get out!!!
Frant : ......... (gone)
Whoooa, I just saved your life Sacha!!!
(ok,I'll stop :beer: , ha,ha)
nwiz25
01-13-2007, 02:13 PM
hey Sacha!
i wholeheartedly agree with my buddy Remko ... follow ur heart dude ...
capture the first star in ur night sky,
make it special as u did earlier ...
dont ever let go of it ...
wishing u all the best buddy! :love:
walrus
01-13-2007, 03:44 PM
Sacha - Looks likwe you've been busy at work. I've liked the earlier compositions, but it sounds like you haven't been. I can see you put qa lot of work into this new one, but sorry, it's not really working for me. Colorwise, the more you get away from the brighter colors in the original comps and more into pastels and faded-out whites, the less visual impact your piece has.
Using strong value changes is not a bad idea in general, but now you're using the brightest values both in the far background behind the heads and in the foreground in front of the heads, making it really difficult to read the distance in the piece. For example, if you read the white being behind Patricia and whomever that guy is on the right, then the similarly-shaded Axis City reads as behind him too, a big negative-space cutout. All of your earlier versions had the heads blending into the scene nicely but now they look cutout in odd shapes because of the lgiht valies of "EON" and the city on the right...For the record, I still think the heads worked best on the earliest color comps, when there was a great warm/cool (heads/background) contrast.
It seems you've traded the Lanier with a crick in his neck from the previous comp for someone else with a crick in the neck, so my same note from earlier still applies. (Who is that anyhow? I can't tell. I expect Olmy from your notes, but Olmy is described as having no nose and big round ears.)
Lastly, I don't like the 'Eon' right in the center. It's distracting. It takes away from the picture as an illustration and makes it more of a commercial poster. I guess that's what you're shooting for, but it means that the art can't stand on its own without the big logo plasterred in the center. I think your art is good enough to hold its own without needing the huge logo front and center telling us what we're looking at. We know already, and your artwork can (and does) speak for itself.
Well, that all came off as somewhat harsh. Sorry, pal, you know I'm still a big fan. I'm sorry your not feeling better about your compositions. Good luck with it!
-mike
Hi there you have alot skils PLEASE FINISH that because LOOKS GREAT!I wish you good luck and I like to see the FINAL image soon!
Best to you!
TheFirstAngel
01-13-2007, 10:08 PM
http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/14/11653/11653_1168726101_medium.jpg (http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/14/11653/11653_1168726101_large.jpg)
ok, just wanted to have tested that too.
I agree with mike in prolly all points mentioned. i mainly sketched in the new sixth chamber. then for onkmer, olmy's fav. frant - an adventurefrant. behind mirsky now the walls of books of the library. to avoid broken neck confusion again i sketched in a quick olmy.
yet i am still unsure if i'd stick with this but i like the new sixth chamber somehow. i think its the challengefever, i had way too little sleep the last days and started disliking all i do. i agree with mike the fog was a bit overdone. killed the foglayer for this test.
for this solution, the text is nessesary, to create the whole image. i made it part of the library's interface.
since i wanted to create a movieposter style image, i tried my best to let the text not just being placed on the image rather than being part of it and i thought making it part of the interface would be a possebilety do melt it into it. what do you think about this version?
TheFirstAngel
01-13-2007, 10:43 PM
tons of thanks for that many constructive crits. you all rock!
Ivy00: tons of thanks. as you can see i struggle and am undecieded, and i have no idea anymore if and what and where with my own piece except the fact that i dont like anything at all i do :p prolly need to take 1 day off to get some distance and analize it with non eonized eyes maybe helps. ^^ i agree the bookwalls work less than i hoped, the library part was an idea i wanted to see if i can bring it in without killing the atmosphere but aree it doesnt work the way i tried it.
Norberg: thanks a lot mate. I'll test how the new 6th chamber merges with the old blue maybe and see if i get back to the space scenery sky ,erged with the thistledown houses? cuz now at least i have the tubelight back in place and can try how the thing would work in darkblue...
OKMER: lol ahahaha frants - omg, i am into frant troubles now and lol, yeah they already plan to take over my canvas - i can feel it :p . thanks for the lil crack up :) yep thought of puting in a frant behind olmy already on the pencils, but forgot sketching him in on the first test. looks too busy now for my taste, since 4 characters already are a bit of a headsheap. i also realized in a non blue version the ring gets too dominant, prolly have to change that if so i'll try how that works less opaque on a dakblue sky then.
NWIZ: thank you so much my friend. you prolly are the nicest guy all over the challenge, so many nice words and in monents like this i am just happy you are with me too :) thanks for all your encouragements and good tips my friend!!!
Walrus: i agree in prolly all points you mentioned my friend. its driving me nuts, and nothing i try really works :( i actually agree this takes a funny way towards a "commercial work" thou, i just wanted to be the text part of the piece not "just placed on it". yet on the latest test, i think the whole ring thing is too dominant, and i hope a darkblue version maybe works. i killed the foglayer, to let the piece have more contrast again. agree the colors on the last test were very washed out. the fog/snowstorm took over the whole piece, was overdone. going to try that colder sky again, thou, i sorta tried to find a ballance to the allover piece cuz it was very cold overall :/ one more test then.
as for olmy, i thought he has a nose but no nosetrills. actually olmy's nose is a bit hard for me to picture, prolly going to have to redo some olmy sketches to get that nailed too.
thanks for that very nice compliment. much appreciated. since i have 18 days, i maybe might try a reapproach completely without text. wich takes more compositionsketch tumbs but prolly a good point. sigh. arrr. yeah. the composition first looks promissing then the closer i get to a final the less i like it :( thanks for your honest and very constructive crits, thats what really helps much and is extremely appreciated. tonsa thanks old friend
adib: thank you very much, will do a last composition test and then go for a little vote for the final composition solution and then bring it to an end as fast as possible. thanks for your encouragements. :)
ok mates, last test and then... detailing again ^^
LightSovereign
01-13-2007, 11:26 PM
I think you should take a break, mate. this new one is not doing it for me. The older ones were fabtastic, and i think all it would take is one little adjustment you haven't thought of and it would work for you, oft times the case for me.
Though we still have 18 days don't we.
take care and best of luck ^^.
Marley
Ivy00
01-13-2007, 11:59 PM
Ivy00: tons of thanks. as you can see i struggle and am undecieded, and i have no idea anymore if and what and where with my own piece except the fact that i dont like anything at all i do :p prolly need to take 1 day off to get some distance and analize it with non eonized eyes maybe helps. ^^ i agree the bookwalls work less than i hoped, the library part was an idea i wanted to see if i can bring it in without killing the atmosphere but aree it doesnt work the way i tried it.
lmao at the Frant... oh there he is the evil Frant....yes you most certainly need a day or so off of Eon. *puts on her Eon doctor voice...
coCoKNIght
01-14-2007, 12:02 AM
me likey both versions, but stick the first, we wanna see it finished :deal:
(you can do the other one after that :D)
TheFirstAngel
01-14-2007, 02:32 AM
ok, i will make a version of this one tomorrow with a few minor changes, valuetweaks and move it from there, so once thats done i can bring it to an end... hopefullyhttp://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/14/11653/11653_1166375284_large.jpg
walrus
01-14-2007, 06:03 PM
Ooooh, I like it! You've been hard at work polishing it up, I see! This new version rocks!
It has a lot more color intensity than the last few, all of the characters are looking out from a central point, which hints at perspective lines all radiating out from the center... The warm-on-cool of the heads shows them off, and yet they don't stick out too much. Really great work! :grin:
as for olmy, i thought he has a nose but no nosetrills. actually olmy's nose is a bit hard for me to picture, prolly going to have to redo some olmy sketches to get that nailed too.
As for Olmy, it's up to interpretation, and I'm not positive Bear is 100% consistent about that through the book. In some places he seems to imply that Ser Olmy has no nose... but then there's that one line of Patricia's, "Where are your nostrils," which could easily lead one to believe he has a nose, but no openings in it. So who's to say?
(I found that in my entry too: In one place he describes the fisrt thing you see on Axis City are the 2 cubes, and then later in the book, he talks about 2 cubes and a Maltese Cross. Can't wrap my head around the both being correct, so there was obviously a continuity error... or soem unexplained reason for the cross not being there that ended up in the waste-bin, maybe?)
But so anyhow, no nose or no nostrils, it's up to you.
Good luck, my friend! And thanks for taking my last post in the spirit it was intended. :)
-mike
abscnth
01-14-2007, 08:10 PM
This is brilliant Sacha, I wasn't too keen when you went in a new direction but you have come back from that in a solid visualisation of all the hard work you put in, you tell so many folks how they rock but my god you do too!!.
The detailing you have captured in your city leaves me breathless and the poses of the figures now is much more dynamic.
On the point of the maltese cross Michael, I am confused also as to where it is located, there are 3 pages of description in the book as Patricia approaches Axis City but no reference to the cross until much later... I chose to leave it out of my interpretation.
Best of luck Sacha
Sean
i really like this new update. more so then the others! but maybe not witht he little guy on the right side.
LightSovereign
01-14-2007, 09:56 PM
Fair Dinkum, you gotta be happy now, Sacha!. the latest is the best of the bunch!.:thumbsup:.
Ivy00
01-14-2007, 11:16 PM
.. and hopefully you took a day off and went out and had some fun :) Can't wait to see you get to the finish, I am still holding the teenage gurly fans for you , just in case, ha ha
TheFirstAngel
01-15-2007, 08:13 AM
http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/14/11653/11653_1168848795_medium.jpg (http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/14/11653/11653_1168848795_large.jpg)
ok, my purple friend made me paint this purple draft, following the walrusian advice i went back to the very beginning of my sketches and tried to get that spirit back.
i gave the characters back their innocence, facing a future like the kids in the candyshop ^^ the fight over axis city's surface... and olmy for once not that grumpy either :)
now this is version4, i know but based on the very beginning, i think i'll stick with this one finally, its much more simple but basically i have back what i lost during this challenge, the feel for the piece. these are just my quickly colored pencils to see if it would work, now, please let me know what you think :)
nwiz25
01-15-2007, 08:21 AM
yo ma man! :eek: this is magnificent work! :eek:
very strong purple tone in all its splendour! :buttrock:
very very fascinating! :bounce:
u rock dude!
good luck to u! :thumbsup:
Ivy00
01-15-2007, 08:44 AM
It is much more simple and looks like the foreground will have some real eye catching stuff. I also think the more emotion the characters can show the better it will be. now get busy :D
SONIC-X
01-15-2007, 01:32 PM
This new sketch looksgreat,I like the lay-out.Cool.
LMAO! 1st one aint out yet and you are already thinking of a sequal! you entrapenuer you.
walrus
01-15-2007, 03:14 PM
Hey! Don't go blaming this on me! I'm the one who keeps posting, in all sorts of ways, both direct and not-so-direct, that you should just take one of thse comps - any one of these comps - and actually finish it instead of coming up with still more new comps. You don't win any prizes for having more finished layouts than anyone else, only for having one completed one! :)
-mike
Dude, youn should finish this new one, like it more!
Thaldir
01-15-2007, 07:54 PM
Agree, this one is really great (that's not my 'purple-addiction' speaking, honest!) :)
*Gets down on his knees and begs*: would you, please, finish it? please...?
LightSovereign
01-15-2007, 08:05 PM
LMAO! 1st one aint out yet and you are already thinking of a sequal! you entrapenuer you.
HAHAHAHA, thats a classic (sorry it just tickled my sense of humour).Sascha they are all top notch, trust me. Refine one and you may be suprised..I can see you coming up with a prequel at this rate :P.
artvandeley
01-15-2007, 09:47 PM
Yup, this one is worth to go for.
Emphasis on "go" :thumbsup:
TheFirstAngel
01-16-2007, 03:19 AM
nwiz: thanks mate
Ivy00: thanks a lot linda. thought so as well but sortof stuck with my progress since i put in much work on the previous attemp i'll post the two now and would like to hear what you think :)
SONIC-X: thanks mate
Slav: lol, yeah played with an option, also, if time should get tight i have a backdoor like that.
walrus: ahahaha, ok, i officially appologise for naming you like that, tho, it just was supposed to be funny and its not blaming at all, it was supposed to be meant positively in all meanings, the penciling i did is 1 more option and my saver in case i should run out of time.
100% agree i should bring ANYTHING to an end, but since i am a bit busy with comissioned work i am already looking how i can manage the time left.
from all cgartist i know you are one of those who's crits i trust on most and you are not just a great talent but also a great friend to me. so... dont be upset bout the purple k? ^^
Aura: thanks mate. will post em both to deciede the next min
Thaldir: ahahaha ok, here's 2 purple ones, wich you like more?
LightSovereign: muahahaha, and the journey continues, machineflesh revisited, spectablllllhmp part3... eon the return to the corridor? nooooooooooooooooooooooo! ahahah i do NOT intend to let it end that way, no sir ^^ specially since i am about to bring journey to its final as well as some other pieces, but thats another thing wich should bstuff my portfolio with 16 more pieces :)
artvandeley: yay, thanks mate. posting both would like to hear oppinions :D
now for a little post, brb ^^
TheFirstAngel
01-16-2007, 03:23 AM
http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/14/11653/11653_1168917810_medium.jpg (http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/14/11653/11653_1168917810_large.jpg)
brought back to purple, dark values, the initial colorset version2
this is option1
TheFirstAngel
01-16-2007, 03:26 AM
http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/14/11653/11653_1168918010_medium.jpg (http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/14/11653/11653_1168918010_large.jpg)
this is option2 the more simple less huge but essential piece in happiness and enjoyment of facing the miracles of the future.
vote is on, option 1 or 2?
slickgreekgeo
01-16-2007, 03:43 AM
Definitely the first one; More moody and a lot more 'epic'. Good luck!
ReinaldoRomero
01-16-2007, 04:24 AM
I vote for 1, just if I were you I will move patricia to the left and aling her center whit the center of the logo...mmm i made some diagrams of both of your compositions whit some "corrections"
left = option1
center = option1 correction (patricia centered, logo expanded and relocated to rcenter, lanier relocated more to the left)
right top = option2
right botom = option2 correction (upper background expanded, lower background lowered, loco relocated)
http://i103.photobucket.com/albums/m147/reinaldoromero/eonsacha.jpg
mmm I dont know if I am right but thats what I think (I kinda feel like a small riverfish in the ocean hehe writing this).
Hope this help you. btw, I do like most option1 but I like option2's patricia and mirsky (position but no expression) much more.
nicely done so far mate
icedeyes
01-16-2007, 06:26 AM
Ok... i will vote for option 1 too but i love patricia's expression on th second one as well as Olmy... Also i like the bright feeling of the second one but i believe the first one is a more complete image...
Ivy00
01-16-2007, 10:02 AM
ok from an emotional perspective here instead of an artistic one
The goal is to tell a story with your image, when I look at both of them..
The first one , I see nuclear destruction, I see so many little stories on the bottom, I see space ships, battles, cities.. you name it I see it. It really tells the story to me.
The second one, I see a space ship going over a sci fi type landscape and some people, it really doesn't tell me a story like the first does.
So I say go with your first one Sacha, it speaks to the viewer and that is what art is all about.
nwiz25
01-16-2007, 10:33 AM
hey buddy! :bounce:
man! this is a very tough choice :cry: but ... goin deep with the best ...
i wud finally opt for option 1 correction .. ( patricia centered ) ...:thumbsup::buttrock:
ur 'first love cried out!' ( boo hoo hoo :cry: pick me pick me :cry: ):D
thats all to it mate .. me really looking forward to ur final work! :eek: :eek:
good luck Sacha! :thumbsup:
god bless ya!
black-hand-77
01-16-2007, 10:39 AM
I somehow agree with Reinaldo. The first execution lacks centralism a little bit, so if you finish this one I think you could move Pat a slightly to the left. But, If you wanted something more centralised, you could insert the Pat from the purple comp into the first one which is deffinetely cooler. Don't get me wrong: I like the first version Patricia a lot, as I've said to you many times. You're very skilled in drawing female characters. The purple version Patricia keeps a mystic aura though, due to her head position and the simplicity of the pose in the context of the poster compositing. Mixing those two should result in something even cooler than it is, if you ask me. Anyhow, I know that you'll do whatever you're convinced you should, so good luck, Sacha and bring it to the finish line! :thumbsup:
coCoKNIght
01-16-2007, 10:39 AM
it just occurred to me while looking at all this versions that it might be worth a try to flip all characters horizontally around the center of the whole image.
you already know i vote for 1 :)
edit: and i'm all against centralism as it might bring the 'boring' element into your image...
Hey Sacha,
I am following your thread for a long time - impressive work you are doing here!
And now almost to the end of the challenge I want to say my little word here too :) .
I like all the fine detail you putted into the first one at the bottom - all those small stories, as Ivy says. It has more poster like feeling, and you are doing a poster. But I like the way you posed your characters on the second one, specially Patricia. On the first one she looks like a strong hero-type woman, on the second one she is more emotional, fragile, more Patricia from EON looking into the future, searching for her own way in the world that keeps falling around her.
The first image looks more finished too, so if I would have to post the final today I would go with the first one.
Sasha
EON (http://forums.cgsociety.org/showthread.php?p=4133348#post4133348)
Thaldir
01-16-2007, 12:31 PM
The first one, most of all because it's way richer story-wise and, after the first impact, the myriad details keep you on the image for a long while, wanting to 'discover' it a piece at a time.
TheFirstAngel
01-21-2007, 04:50 PM
http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/14/11653/11653_1169398238_medium.jpg (http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/14/11653/11653_1169398238_large.jpg)
rofl ok i decieded to give the poster a shot. there's been so much that was off and i tarted put it back into perspective before the final rendering.
its not a shame to make a grid to get things back into perspective, and what i done was very simple.
I wanted to have a lense effect so i had to figure out how to do it. i took those lines i thought were facing mainly right as guideline, then made a bow matching the curvature best and blended it down to the horizonline. since the piece is built with a centerperspective, the rest was done fast. now that i have a (rather fancy) 3 point perspective grid the rest is painted back into perspective much faster :)
i hope you like the compositionupdate, i found the background in the upper part way too empty and painted 2 buildings into the midground. also i added a brighter space to lanier and flipped lanier and olmy for the storywise reason. lanier: representative of the past, olmy the future, for me, its more logical he is over axis city. and lanier over the sixth chamber wich represents for me the heart of the stone and makes all technological miracles on it possible. mirsky and patricia back to back as for their ways are as different as thinkable, mirski moved right, he'll travel to the end of time while patricia tries to change the past, and ends up in an other universe... i think the new placement makes so far more sense. working on the details now, hope you like my decicion to finish this on :) all c&c most welcome :)
TheFirstAngel
01-21-2007, 04:53 PM
http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/14/11653/11653_1169398422_medium.jpg (http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/14/11653/11653_1169398422_large.jpg)
ahaha ok submitting the right image woudn't have been the worst thing :P
Hey Sacha,
Great thinking behind the grid. I agree with you on switching Lanier and Olmy - they better where they are now.
At the first glans I got an impression that the left side of the image feels heavier then the right side... I was going to suggest to flip Patricia - as she was before, but then I read your argumentation and totally agreed with it... I don't really know how to fix that (may be it doesn't need fixing at all :) )... May be bring Patricia closer to the middle of the image, and Lanier a little higher...
ChuckWadey
01-22-2007, 04:16 PM
Darn, I missed the options vote. True, option 1 has more story elements and may be the smart way to go, but I find option 2 very striking. There's something to be said for simplicity, though I shouldn't be the one to talk.
Whichever, the tightened final is going to rock. Get it done! Good luck.
nwiz25
01-23-2007, 06:50 AM
This is looking better than ever! :eek: way to go Sacha! :bounce:
i totally agree with Musi! .. smart work on the grid thingy and the switch! :p
rock on mate! :buttrock:
good luck as always! :thumbsup:
cheers! :beer:
Djampa
01-24-2007, 12:59 AM
Hi budy !
It came out just great !
It matches with my "mind concepts" when I read the book.
I think it's very well aligned with the storyline.
It's well balanced, great color schemme, for a book cover I think you'll be among the finalists here ! I'd buy EON with a cover like this !
I'm sorry about the original cover of EON but I feel it doesn't tell much about the book, I've seen some of the artworks around and I confess I feel that just a few are matching the storyline and acomplishing the role of beign "a COVER".
Yours is one of the few I trully loved !
I'm stuck in business (for a change uh...!! lol ), so I'm thinking now about doing a speed paint just to not leave myu EON entry empty... anywayz...
Good luck and my best wishes to you !
Cya around friend !
TheFirstAngel
01-25-2007, 09:26 AM
http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/14/11653/11653_1169717185_large.jpg
major update on patricia
this morning, i was bothered so much with patricia i have changed her pose again and unified her light with laniers wich i think works better now :). also repainted her nose that was off trough 3 times reposing.
now lanier and patricia are in the same kind of light wich actually makes it more calm, my piece still is on the busy side but i slowly get there. 6 days to go and comissionwork almost is finished wich means i can get back to this this evening :) yay!
TheFirstAngel
01-25-2007, 09:42 AM
musi: you were 100% right about the ballance, flipped tho outer characters and since they had a flip flp light and i anyways had to render olmy majorly i liked laniers and disliked patricias light so changed her setup to laniers. the new allignement should be better ballanced now, i'll post a a major update tonight to get the general check for what has to be done most urgently, but i think the composition finally is nailed. thanks for the great points and the constructive crits. it helped a lot my feel and actually i think i can paint straight forwards from now :)
ChuckWadey: lol, thanks a lot mate! still quiet a way to go but i am like this, if i dont like how the composition looks like 'd preferly fix it before i am upset i painted tons of details noone will ever see because i got rid ofem while fixing the composition :P glad you like my choice, so i'll give my best to bring it to a great final :)
nwiz25: thanks a lot :) yep the grid helps a lot makes it much easier to see whats off :) should have done that much earlier :P
Djampa: yep i know how that feels mate, i was overtrown with comissionworks since mid of december too and was so eager to get back painting on this one. its the "curse effect" on the challenge and this time i wont let it win either, have best of luck with your speedy old friend and thanks for your very nice words. yay! off to paint more details!!!
Ivy00
01-25-2007, 11:31 AM
looking great Sacha, glad to see you back in action here :)
Thaldir
01-25-2007, 11:50 AM
Just a silly detail, Sasha, but Patricia's name is misspelled on her tag. It should read 'Vasquez', not 'Vasqez'...
Can't wait to see the final!
TheFirstAngel
01-25-2007, 02:20 PM
http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/14/11653/11653_1169734819_large.jpg
patricia first hairpass painted, and mirsky now wears his tactical vest :)
checklist: screenrighteye patricia was off, fixed that. rudy said neck not fragile enough, fixed that. oz said vasquez - typo - ahahaha lol. of course he's right.
if anyone sees stuff that is offaxis or has crits wich - stuff to fix, please let me know, now's the time :) small post between the work, bigger one with the whole piece after work :) all c&c most welcome
TheFirstAngel
01-25-2007, 02:24 PM
Linda: thanks a lot! yay yep 1 last comissionwork day and i got 5 eonized days :) weeee!
Thaldir: ahahaha yup sharp eye! lol silly me old weakness. dislexic kiddie ^^ rofl :P thanks for the hint fixed it just about a few secs :)
ReinaldoRomero
01-25-2007, 04:49 PM
Hey Sacha, glad you finish your comissions and start eoning again, new render of patricia is much more better I think maybe one eye still a bit out of place but maybe just me.
Well I have to get back to work now :(
Best regards mate! Keep it roking! :buttrock:
kmest
01-25-2007, 09:01 PM
hey sacha....its been a long time.....
how're you doin??
this image is got much better than the last time i saw it....the colors the detaila and everything...
and specialy the OPTION2 pic which is awesome IMO.......
best luck for you my friend:thumbsup:
TheFirstAngel
01-26-2007, 01:30 PM
http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/14/11653/11653_1169818221_medium.jpg (http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/14/11653/11653_1169818221_large.jpg)
here's what i actually do. i think i quiet much nailed the composition now, and worked on the light.Its time to cleanup the contours - should be finished with that pass tonight -finally. ignore the rapid fall off on lanier, will paint that today as well. illuminated patricia in the library more, ballanced out mainlights and rimlights in a red/cyan colormix.
sketched in the borehole to the background since i think that is framing the upper scene nicely.
also added some fog and clouds in the upper area. railbridges on the left side that lead into the piece
snow in the sixth chamber lower left corner.
cleanup in progress :) any c&c most welecome ^^
TheFirstAngel
01-26-2007, 01:35 PM
ReinaldoRomero: he to see ya on a final run soon too mate. still 5 days, you can make it! thanks for dropping by mate. best of luck to you too and keep on rocking!
Kmesty: thanks a lot mate! glad to hear you so far like what i do here. its a last minute run and i hope i'll make it this time.
Suirebit
01-26-2007, 04:09 PM
Looks fine and I like the style, very competitive entry :)
nwiz25
01-26-2007, 06:54 PM
sensational update my friend! :p wat more can i say :cry: i wish i cud say more buddy :cry:
love it! :love:
rock on bro! :buttrock:
artvandeley
01-26-2007, 10:07 PM
Much better, now youīre talking - hehe. Way to go.
Good luck on the finish, will join you tomorrow as well to get this done.
I think mayby the two rectangular name tags draw a little too much attention to themselves, as they seem to not be the intended focal points of the composition.
makaron
01-27-2007, 05:40 PM
you turned all pink now Sacha... well, that suits your girls ;)
naa. I like it .. hope you get it ready in time...
you ever heard that one before.. haha...
looking forward to the final :bounce:
TheFirstAngel
01-28-2007, 06:03 PM
http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/14/11653/11653_1170007368_large.jpg
first of all bit thanks to walrus for his overpaint, its been a huge help while fixing not finished fixing everything but closer to what i hope to get it.
here's what else i worked at. center scene, wave of destruction ^^ yay knocked it down to monochromatic yellow and destroyed all buildings. now i know how fun the job of a pyrotechnican must be :p.
cityscape- sketched in tons of little buildings. workid in warmer accents into mona's pink to have a better colorharmony with the center.
cleaned up 50% of the ecges yet, and started set values right.
borehole - started detailing it, its an extralayer so i dont bother with painting around it
nameplates - knocked em down a bit, i think they pop less now.
fixlist: jacket folds not there yet, next pass
necks, need more work - still not satisfying.
olmy - needs his final level rendering - higlights not yet done
buildings - textures not yet painted.
volumetrics. upper part needs more clouds - fog
text - needs light fx and cleanup
post effects - all over glow and flare fx will be last pass
almost there and i think 3 days will be nuf to bring it over the finishing line :) if anyone sees stuff that is not in the in my fix list please please feel free to let me know :)
hope you like the update - 90°challengefever, and closing panic :argh:
Ivy00
01-28-2007, 07:02 PM
looking good Sacha, go go go
TheFirstAngel
01-28-2007, 08:18 PM
http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/14/11653/11653_1170015488_large.jpg
center closeup to show what i made with that scene - next update in an hour or 2 :) -
TheFirstAngel
01-28-2007, 08:35 PM
Suirebit: thanks a lot mate, glad you like it :)
nwiz25: thanks a lot! how you always make it to make me :blush:! you sure are the good soul of this challenge, tonsa thanks for your continuos encouragements!
artvandeley: move it on mate, go go go!!!
yoff: thanks for the review, i think i fixed that now :) thanks for the hint :)
makaron: lol, thats only cuz i dad not painted the warmcolorpass yet :p but i take it you like the pink ^^ so i'll let a few parts like that JUST 4 U :D
Linda: thanks a lot! will do! :wip:
thanks all for the drop by, anyone seeing things i could improve feel free to tell me and thanks all for your c&c yet! Ya ROCK, keep it up!!!
Manzieri
01-28-2007, 08:43 PM
I love your style and I've been enjoying your thread for the frequent and stunning updates. This painting deserves to be finished! Absolutely! :)
ReinaldoRomero
01-28-2007, 09:07 PM
I see you are rushing to sacha, watch out whit the lower part of the characters... mmm Im going back to work, good luck
coCoKNIght
01-28-2007, 11:56 PM
Wow, those colors! I feel like I can lick your image with my tongue. That's the true meaning of eyeCANDY :) but I'm not so sure if like them colors being so strong...
I see you're speeddetailing, that's coming along niceley. I have no doubt that you'll be there in 3 days.
Nice Death by the way, nice girl :) the guys pose is a bit strange though. I'd expect him to have his hands before him instead of behind him, or else in crouching position or sumthin... dunno...
prabath
01-29-2007, 04:32 AM
Wow Sacha this is awesome.I downright love it.Almost feels like an alternate Star Wars poster from the 80`s.All the best to you.
Cheers!
thebest
01-29-2007, 07:20 AM
great work buddy but something is missing maybe a picture of me :scream:
keep going amigo :thumbsup:
You just keep drawing those gourgeous people..
Very nice image Sacha..
Good luck! :thumbsup:
Hey Sacha,
Tell me about this "feel like talking to myself" thing :) !
I have nothing to add to your to-do list - just keep going! I enjoy watching your workflow and progress, learned a lot from you.
And I love your last updates :love:!!!
icedeyes
01-29-2007, 10:01 AM
a beautiful image... surely it could stand as a book cover... only thing that bugs me is the man screaming in the closeup... he seems like he is breaking his own neck rather than taking cover... on the other hand the woman and child look amazing....
black-hand-77
01-29-2007, 10:21 AM
So far you did a wonderful job, Sacha. Can't wait to see it finalized. I just finished mine and uploaded it, so I want to thank you for your very good advices and encouragements during the long 3 months of eoning. 10x and best luck!:thumbsup:
MY FINAL EON (http://forums.cgsociety.org/showthread.php?threadid=415554)
TheFirstAngel
01-30-2007, 12:59 AM
http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/14/11653/11653_1170118749_medium.jpg (http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/14/11653/11653_1170118749_large.jpg)
this was tolga's suggestion, painted a cloudlayer, just a draftquality yet, to see how it looks like.
please let me know what you think :)
tlggungor
01-30-2007, 01:25 AM
Really Good coloring and composition :) :arteest::beer:
OKMER
01-30-2007, 03:37 AM
Hey Sacha!!!Whooo, glad you came back to your earlier compositions!!!
Love the colors now mate!!!See you've been working hard on working out your strokes&details.congrats mate, totally rocking image!!!
Glad to be by your side on the final run,hu,hu,hu
:beer:
Zephyri
01-30-2007, 08:09 PM
Looking fab m'dear! Loving the new warm colour scheme, really makes your piece stand out inthe myriad of blues there are out there, and the composition is now spot on! I still love Mirsky though, he's by far the best male I've seen you paint to date, and Patricia, as ever, is gorgeous. Almost there... keep going and you'll have a winner on your hands for sure!
NinjaA55N
01-30-2007, 09:50 PM
hi Angel! It looks great as I told u on MSN. U did a great job by puting those clouds inthere, looks so more deep and alive. Good luck with final brushstrokes, I hope u'll catch the deadline and uploud it in time! :) one of the greatest pieces in this challenge!
artvandeley
01-30-2007, 10:05 PM
This is getting better and better.
Two things kinda bother me still ,
first i would forget about th eon-logo. Right now itīs kind of distracting and furthermore will eat up a lot of the time left. *trash*:scream:
Second thing is that the steps on which patricia is standing are not in perspective, in fact this is the only element out of line.
Apart from that: kick ass, mate. Yeah!
Guete abig noch und viel Erfolg.
Greatto
01-31-2007, 01:04 PM
WELL WELL WELL, and where is the Final Image? a?
nwiz25
01-31-2007, 01:24 PM
buddy .. i agree with Greatto .. :eek: ..
where - r - u ?
Greatto
01-31-2007, 01:28 PM
haha! his last words yesturday was, " ok i have to sleep to continiue my Eon tomorow"
I think he is still sleepin' haha
Pleas-please-please, Sacha, get it uploaded!!!
I am really worried about you!!! Only a couple of hours to go!
TheFirstAngel
01-31-2007, 08:15 PM
http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/14/11653/11653_1170274535_medium.jpg (http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/14/11653/11653_1170274535_large.jpg)
this comission stole me a whole day so i might not finish as clean as i wanted, speedpainting against the timer, 3hours 52 mins left, wich i wont use completely, in 2 hours i'll make my ftp upload to be on the safe side this time. cleanup at 90% just a few more edges to clean and a few more lights to paint, highlights on olmy is next.
compositionwise added some vegetation to the lower right corners axis city scene, added tons of details and 2 more spacesips to bridge the space between fornt scene and far background. i think the added vegetaion helps that part a lot since it now has a true foreground, if that part's missing, you risk all becomes midground and you have no depht at all.
added some ceiling in the lowerleft corners 6th chamber, that tech-pattern the book sais, upper part, red. cyan lights to have a nice shiny ilumination.. some green lights too to ballance the lack of green. worked in cold accents to the thistledown header cuz the book sais its silver, it was way too purple.
a short way to go and painting marathon of now 12 hours goes on... hope you like the post :D c ya when the ftp is done :)
tlggungor
01-31-2007, 08:24 PM
have a good luck :beer::beer:good work....and my favorite
ReinaldoRomero
01-31-2007, 09:22 PM
Amazing so far Sacha, cant wait to see this piece finished, come on, go go go!
kmest
01-31-2007, 10:48 PM
the whole thing is beautifull....but you dont have much time left....do it.....click on the SUBMIT buttom....DO ITTTTTTTTTTTT
Greatto
01-31-2007, 11:07 PM
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!! PUSH THE BUTTON!!
http://photofile.ru/photo/timlank/2430392/large/44188832.gif
Ivy00
01-31-2007, 11:23 PM
beautiful updates , you are speedy as well as tricky now GO GO GO *runs around in circles
TheFirstAngel
01-31-2007, 11:50 PM
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would hqave loved to make it cleaner, speedpaint finish but hey - my curse is broken! yay! i'm in, her^'s the final!
great, congratulations!:thumbsup:
I really enjoyed following the emergence of your picture!
OKMER
02-01-2007, 12:17 AM
Hay whooa Sacha, you made it!!Congratz mate!!!rocking!Me I love the painterly feeling in it!!!6*ha,ha!!!:beer::beer:LOVE IT!!!
....
LOVE IT AGAIN!!!
GonzaloGolpe
02-01-2007, 12:25 AM
the 1st angel has left the building!:bounce: good luck dude and have fun... And eat "potatoes",itīs good for health,haha.
Good night!:buttrock:
OmeN2501
02-01-2007, 12:57 AM
Glad to see u make it :] I got mine like seconds before deadline :] Ahhhh the adrenaline rush :P
Anyway - its a rock solid poster piece - Im sure you are in top five men :thumbsup:
Good luck and see you next chelenge :D
Manzieri
02-01-2007, 01:17 AM
I appreciated all your words and time spent in this Forum. It was a state-of-the-Art way of leading a Challenge and it took us to an amazing final painting - with a bit of thriller at the end...:)
Have a wonderful 'Rest of the Warrior'! I'll look forward to your next production...
All the very best, Maurizio.
ReinaldoRomero
02-01-2007, 01:28 AM
What more I can say sacha, allready told ya what i think but just to make it official, this is a really wonderfull job, one of my favorites, not just the final image but the thread and the good fellow you were during this journey.
Best regards for you Sacha, you are the one who can save your country cg from the top 10 worst cg. Good luck mate... rest I must...
Edit: just to clarify, the ranking joke is not mean to ofense anyone, is just an internal joke
TheFirstAngel
02-01-2007, 02:28 AM
my eyes hurt badly and i will be back after a little nap to thank you all personally, its been a wonderful time and i am terribly sorry for not having been able to help and answer all friends at the end of this because i was overrun with a clientwork that had yesterday as deadline :( i have finished this as speedpainting and will make a cleaned up version for my portfolio.
i wanna thank you all for your great support and continuos encouragements! you all rock! :bowdown::beer::buttrock: thank you all!!!
Greatto
02-01-2007, 06:17 AM
Hey Buddy, yestureday night I was waitn', waitin' and waitin' but went to sleep)) and I see you did it! thats Great, Congrats! As I said before your EON challenge is one of the best! I wish you luck in judgement! and I hope angels will help you. Also I want to thank you a lot! you are not only support me with helpfull comments you did tutorials and etc. that is a huge help was done form me! Thank you!
About your Final!
Its not just amazing, not just great, not just perfect its ( I cannot find the word, I think that kind word do not exist haha)...
I think you need the main prize for this few month without sleepin', is good 3 days sleep!
Ok my friend you are welcome always in any my threads!
Good Luck!
P.S. you won this challenge before it starts hahahaha!
nwiz25
02-01-2007, 07:32 AM
yahooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!!
:scream:
:applause:
fly
my friend
fly!!
:eek:
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work of art buddy!
:eek:
details, colour, expression, story!, composition, diversity! name it! its there!
u da man bro! gods gift to u! pure talent!
i love this piece with all my heart sacha!
:love:
u hit rock bottom!
i was really worried about u man
:cry:
i hope u nail it!
Stupendous!
very very expressive and full of life!
u have my vote bro!
i wish u the very best of luck buddy!
:thumbsup:
god bless u immensly!
rock on!
:buttrock:
:beer:
ArsXC
02-01-2007, 07:52 AM
Yes! Yes! =)
Great work Sacha! Beautiful, amazing! Best of Luck! :) :thumbsup:
Oh, Sacha, this was TOOOOO close!
I am relived! And VERY VERY glad you got your final submitted!!! :bounce:
And you know I love your peace, there would be a lot of tears if it wouldn't make to the judges!
Great work! :thumbsup: :love:
Ivy00
02-01-2007, 08:57 AM
YAY, wow I can't say anything about your final that has not been said. I am so happy you finished, I can quit biting my fingernails now and release those teenage gurly fans on Walrus , ha ha . congrats , it is a beautiful work and I have been amazed watching your thread from your very first post all the way to the end. Good luck my friend :) hope you get a good sleep and rest those eyes, you are going to need them for the next challenge.:bounce:
kmest
02-01-2007, 09:08 AM
YYYYYYYYYEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS
you did it..........:bounce: :bounce: :bounce:
finaly....http://us.i1.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/i/mesg/emoticons7/36.gifhttp://us.i1.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/i/mesg/emoticons7/36.gif
very nice image...besides that i realy liked you to do more details but its still a great job.......
the whole thing is well done...nice colors and good composition over all.....great to see you worked on men like you did on the girly...
now lets all sing...I LIKE TO MOVE IT MOVE IT.....http://us.i1.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/i/mesg/emoticons7/69.gifhttp://us.i1.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/i/mesg/emoticons7/69.gifhttp://us.i1.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/i/mesg/emoticons7/69.gifhttp://us.i1.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/i/mesg/emoticons7/69.gif
daWinky
02-01-2007, 09:53 AM
Ah, finally...a last minute upload...you kept us thrilled until the end:scream: !
Now congratulations for finishing this challenge and of course for your final illustration, great work and you've been such a good challenger!
Good luck now for the judging!:)
-sabrina
black-hand-77
02-01-2007, 10:22 AM
Cool image, Sacha! Love the lights, love the paint effects, love the colors. I'm not particullary founded with the hollywoodian aspect, but I can't mess with the artist's vision, can I?
:scream:
Thank you for the good things you said to me and others during this contest and good luck in life, art and everything! :thumbsup:
Neubius
02-01-2007, 12:29 PM
yay! finished! looks sweet mate!
great big luck to you man,
A :D
thebest
02-01-2007, 01:43 PM
cool image my friend never doubt that u will finish on time :scream: really cool mate congrats :beer:
TheFirstAngel
02-01-2007, 02:12 PM
First of all thanks you all so much! now here i am with answering personally what i skipped because i was too tired yesterday :)
Reinaldo: yep its been a hell of a rushjob since that comission stole me 3 of my 4 final days i wanted to put into this work. glad you still like the speedpaintfinish :)
told you on msn its the greates thing of all to meet great friends like you in here. congrats again on your final too! and bout ranking - no offense at all, if there's countries where really noone cares about cg and no art is asked that is more concrete than a wallpaperpattern - no gameindustry, ahahahaha come and visit us ^^ top 10? high on that list ^^
cocoKnight: lol, yeah its kind of a candylight work, but i didnt want to create it in a purely almost monochromatic palette - its a rich book so i thought püainting a poster of it should bring in a much as possible of the impressions i had. agree the death's grontguy left was a bit funny but since i had to rush extremely, i let a few parts as they were in nanner to fix as much as possible of what i was even less satisfied with.
prabath: thanks a lot mate. hope the colorpalette is more ballanced than the typical 80ies kitschful pieces. i'd be upset if it was cryingly overcolored :P
tony: ahahhaha sorry didnt have a pic of you but hint: next comission i have to apint is enchanted forrest - magic egypt. send me a pic of you and your home or i'll make you simply the gnome as dewish - smoking a big fat shisha in it ;)
MVDB: thanks a lot old friend
Musi: i am sooo happy you like my final run's result. well i said it before i will make a clean up pass to bring it to the end it deserves in the next days :) so i have a nice portfoliopiece at least and all the work i put in apear in the best possible way and not best possible for the circumstances. thank you so much and i am happy you liked it! hehe, if you got an extratime, i cant wait to see a musi short!
Icedeyes: hehe thanks mate. yup the guy is a bit funny. since the show's over, he'll be fixed in the afterparty somewhen in the next days :)
Blackhand: THANK YOU mate. its been a great time and i wish i would have had way more time to look around and help, i find it only normal to tell someone what i think while looking at his work and more than all it would be the least you could do for your friends, right? so thanks a lot too old friend and hope to see many many more of your great works soon :)
Tolga: congrats again on your bombastic epic piece and your continuos encouragements and reviews. thank you so much for all your help on msn :)
Onkmer: ahahaha, yeah i went over my own progress back and forth, and at the end, i just said no matter what it takes, no matter how little sleep i get, i'll bring it over the line cuz its been way too much work to being done for nada. yeah i tried to finish most of the important details as good as possible in the 1 day left to fix the biggest issues.congrats on your supertight final run too, we must have been side by side fighting the last seconds of the timer ^^ hahaha *still dances with onkmer*
Zephyri: tonsa thanks my light. what would i do without you. oh my, i am happy i finished it and brought it back home. promissed you. no matter what it takes and with a few sacrifices, been there, done that. wooohoooo! *hugs*
NinJaA55N: thank you so much old friend. you always been a huge help and not only a kick ass artist but also a longtime really great friend over these happy cgtalk years. thanks for all that!
Art: ahahaa yeah of cousre you were right but the big mess under the logo was even worse than the sketchy logo itself. saved it for a last minute decision and since the blue repeated and connected the lower and upper part fields, i decieded to keep the crappy logo. you created one of my favourite pieces too and its always a huge pleasure to watch your progress, you are one kick ass hell of a painter and of course it wasnt surprising at all you came up with a stack of eyecandy! hau rein ^^
Greatto: hehe told ya i'll make it and bout pushing buttons 4 times mate, 4 times!!!^^ thanks for all your help mate - you rock!!!
nwiz: rofl, i slept on the last 4 days bout 3-4 hours each and was speedpainting in the rest of the time 18-20 hours to move back to my eon. gained a day. been fixing as much as possible in the last minute run. yup i was sleeping and well deserved^^ thanks again for all you done for me and the comunity. if there truely was a "good soul" in here - thats YOU. not only that ou made one of the most beautiful and breataking pieces, you also kept encouraging everyone and posted so much love around! thank you so much for all of that.
Reinaldo: yeah this on sure i did and god jesus maria and all who are holy, thanks for my poor machine kept doing its part. its been the tightest race i been doing since master and servant and when the ftp upload failed the 3rd time i was jumping around in my rooom making orcish "noooooo"'s and was really at the end of all nerves i had on highvoltage. glad we made it both and lol, mext time trow ernie and bert out earlier ^^
darth reza: done that, i hit it failed hit again got disconnected again done it again and 4th attemp the upload succeeded :D weeeeee!!!
Linda: hahaha weee yep yay erm... well not that speedy not that tricky but still glad made it. that was a bath in my own adrenaline, tell you ^^ last min but its there!
MLRU: thank you so much. glad and i mean that really glad you like the final
Onkmer: bout the painterly feel ^^ ahahaha didnt have much of a choice but will clean this out majorly and still keep painterly whats SUPPOSED to be so not what the timer forced me to let so ^^ thanks anyways, glad you like it!
Gonzalo: ahahaha, yeah more potaoes in the next days and seriously, i looove potaoes! preferly baked with sourcream and a big fat anche de lomo and some enchilladas to it. but they taste extremely great in spanish omlettes as well i can tell ^^
Omen2501: ahahah tell me bout adrenaline. 3 mins 41 secs before it was over the ftp failed the 3rd time. 4th and last must have been in the last second by word ^^ congrats on your lastsecond run too i am so happy you brought it back home as well. see you next one for sure old friend! keep on rocking!
Manzieri: thank you so much for your words - i am simply flattered! all the best to you too and congrats again on your beautiful and wonderful final piece! hell of a premiere and i hope to see more of your work soon and sure see you next challenge!
Greatto: ahahaha yeah i took it you went to meet your pillow. done the same right after i said goodnight to my dearest ^^
neville: what a post on my final!!! oh my god its a poster of love! thank you so much for all your wonderful posts that made me smile again and kept giving me a great feel whenever i seen them! you ROCK!
GonzaloGolpe
02-01-2007, 02:32 PM
...but they taste extremely great in spanish omlettes as well i can tell ^^
A great truth:scream: :D
TheFirstAngel
02-01-2007, 02:35 PM
ArsXC: thank you so much!
Musi: ahahaha you wouldnt believe ho much i am relved as well ^^ was undead crumbling in the last secs over that finishing line and crashed bout 3 times when i tried so, must have missed the door ^^ weeeee glad to meet ya here ^^
Ivy: oh ahahaha yeah lol i bet walrus cant wait to have his igluforegarden stuffted with sqeeking scewaming penguinteenies ;) thank you so much for yur continous upcracking and most often also extremely helpful tips and reviews. its just great to have met you here and - ha. get an msn add me! had a bit of rest and am happy to be back and look back a on hell of a ride with some smashin colisions where i was about do scream countless times "houston we have a problem do you read me! houston we are in deeeeeeeep s...pace" got some rest and hapiness is back :) *hugs on the final line*
Kmest: hehe told ya told ya weeeee ahahaha yeah my gurlies :P thou, yep this time i was really trying to paint good males as well. glad you like em too^^ ahahahah *dances with reza too*
Sabie: ahahaha yeah its been a stumble over the doorstep after running into the wall next to it 3 times before that ^^ thank you so much and that goes right back to you you done a kickass work and been such a huge help :) thanks for that!
Blackhand: thank you so much. hehe, yeah its been a possebilety to play my poster card and i'll show very very soon (got a 15 pieces run in progress) there's much else i could do but for this one, the movieposter best worked for me to bring as much as possible back from what the book has done for me - visions, dreams (ahahah lol, yeah even dreamed of eon), and so much to tell. i am happy we done anoter run together and cant wat to do the next one with you :)
Neubius: thank you so much. to be honest its still not what i know i can do but the best possible i could have done in the situation i was in. glad you like the come out of the final run. best of luck to you too!!!
tony: ahahaha thanks for your trust. i admit that one was really tight but since i never gave up early, i ran and ran and ran and weeeeeee. glad you like it mate!
and here's an officail thanks to all who helped me suppoerted me, and kept watching my work and keept encouraging me and all who inspired me painting this piece. you all rock and its been a pleasure and honor to do this with a hell of a crew, great artists, great friends! thank you all you royally rock! best of luck and all the best to you and keep it up - keep on rocking!!! :buttrock::beer::scream:
http://www.angel3d.ch/content/challenge/eon/eon_thanks.jpg
Terro
02-01-2007, 03:07 PM
Ohh, thank you so much Sacha. Very kind of you to include me in your list.
ReinaldoRomero
02-01-2007, 05:30 PM
Yahoooo nice poster there sacha, thank you for tak the time to do that, my crappy english doesnt help to say what i wish to but who cares, best regards for you and all challengers..
I wont say keep on toking but... duh!, allready said it.
Great final poster image!
Good luck with the voting process, I really dig your characters and art alot!
Keep it up!
SEL
GonzaloGolpe
02-02-2007, 12:04 AM
hahah, cool dude:thumbsup:
icedeyes
02-02-2007, 09:04 AM
The final piece is stunning as ever Sacha... I wish you the best of luck with the competition :applause:.... Also, take a rest...
Greatto
02-02-2007, 11:01 AM
Great Thank you alot my friend! I'm really pleased to see my name in ur list "who will die next" haha just joke, really Its great, and i'll 100% agree with you , you know what i mean...!
Good Luck!
hah 2nd row center XD
dude you rock man. i hope you take home something. you derserve it.
walrus
02-03-2007, 02:34 AM
Sacha -
As you will no doubt understand, I haven't had a lot of time to post congratulations or anything like that on folks threads here like usual. But Talia's holding the baby right now, so I wanted to take a couple of minutes to drop in and say hi. Congratulations for completing your piece, especially with so many other demands for your time and art going on in the background, outside of the scope of the Challnege. I'm really happy that you were able to push forward with this one and see it through to the end, even if some of it did turn out more speed-painted than you'd intended. (If it's any consolation, my piece turned out less speed-painted than I'd intended, but that's pretty typical with my work. Maybe someday I'll loosen up...! :)
But anyhow, way to go, it's a great looking piece and your hard wok shows. thanks for giving me a high billing on your annual poster. And thanks for your help, advice, draw-overs, and just plain fun chats. See you around soon...
-your purple friend.
SONIC-X
02-03-2007, 05:12 AM
I'm holding thumbs for you with the voting!
mdavid
02-03-2007, 06:23 AM
Congratulations on crossing the finish line. It's been a wonderful thread ending with a superb, powerful final image. I also admire how much your thoughtful and helpful comments have appeared in other people's threads. Good luck in the judging.
Gunilla
02-04-2007, 07:49 AM
Hey there! In for a bit late congrats :)
As expected this turned out a really beautiful final - I love the coloring. Great work and I'm glad to see you finish in time.
Good luck with the judges:thumbsup:
NinjaA55N
02-04-2007, 07:15 PM
Hi Sasha, my friend! Im sorry to poping in so late, but I had really a lot of work these days. Congratulations on finishing ur piece in time and successfuly uplouding it :D Im so glad to see it in the final section, hehe. And it is a marvelous image, one of the top 10, so I hopw u'll be noticed by the judges! good luck and I hope to see u in next challenges as well :)
I m glead you v finished the work.VERY IMPRESSIVE ONE!:beer:
element5
02-05-2007, 12:43 PM
WOW! sweet image and fun to just stare at....i also love seeing our names credited at the bottom of the poster....:bounce:
Cheers my friend :-)
angel
02-07-2007, 02:40 AM
wow dude, I had not seen that poster. Looks nice and collecting all those names must have been a royal PITA!:scream:
rock on dude!
gardogg
02-13-2007, 11:49 PM
wow, this turned out great! Love the detail.
OKMER
02-14-2007, 12:39 PM
Heyyy Budddyyyy, didn't say that yet but I'm extremely honored being on your special thanks mate!!!Just wanted you to know that,ha,ha!!!One more time, ONE GIANT BIG UP to you and your work friend!Big,big,big!!!
ChuckWadey
03-23-2007, 04:34 PM
Oh well, we move on with heavier portfolios and fight another day. Congrats on a fine piece, see ya around next time.
MartinNielsen
03-23-2007, 07:04 PM
Yeah. I was very surprised not to see your piece in top 3. But hey, there will be another challenge some day. And we will compete again for sure :)
OmeN2501
03-24-2007, 12:47 AM
How does it happened that yours is not in top five pictures is beyond my knowledge. I was sure this piece will win something. I guess this challenges are bit of a lottery, so we have to hope for more luck next time aren't we :]
See you next time buddy - it will be an honour to fight by your side (yes, yes I did watch 300... like twice :P)
OKMER
03-24-2007, 01:20 AM
Same as Omen!!!:bowdown:
Didn't see 300 yet, and I hope I will 5 times this weekend :-),,,,but just to say that me too ,was sure you'll be in the top 3 and me too it will be an enormous honor to fight by your sight again buddy!!!
:buttrock:
NinjaA55N
03-24-2007, 04:54 PM
Hey Sasha! I hoped to see u among the winners but no such luck I guess :/ and it must be luck, coz this entry was one of the top as well :) Cant wait to see u in next challenge, coz I know u'll be there, hehe.. best regards my friend!
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