calisto-lynn
10-20-2006, 06:32 PM
new layout looks really nice.. only thing that confuses me is the man on the left and that laser beam.. it looks like its gouing through its head.. other than this, i love it!!! kepp it up angel ^^
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zweiDee
10-20-2006, 06:46 PM
i like the last one, nice scetchz. cya sascha^^
TheFirstAngel
10-21-2006, 03:04 AM
http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/14/11653/11653_1161396295_medium.jpg (http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/14/11653/11653_1161396295_large.jpg)
k, here's what i usually do not do on any other comission work, linearts usually are just rough blox in my case. i made a quick pencil session on a a light print and put it all together, the piece stats here.
some may ask, what were those sketches for? lol, i will mat a trailer, all sketches i made will be used as as refs now for the 3d project, and ... yeah but my mainfocus is to finish this. trailer if extratime. the poster fun starts :) hope you like the layout, paintingbase ready to go :)
k, here's what i usually do not do on any other comission work, linearts usually are just rough blox in my case. i made a quick pencil session on a a light print and put it all together, the piece stats here.
some may ask, what were those sketches for? lol, i will mat a trailer, all sketches i made will be used as as refs now for the 3d project, and ... yeah but my mainfocus is to finish this. trailer if extratime. the poster fun starts :) hope you like the layout, paintingbase ready to go :)
makaron
10-21-2006, 03:42 AM
awww... finally a space kitten :bounce:
and really like the comp.. not to busy but still a lot of stuff in it... I bet you gonna make this fun to see progress... like the blueish colors too. kind of spacy tones...
I´m keeping a close eye on you, so you don´t loose your kitten... :p
BTW .. dont give a kitten a creditcard this time around.. you know what happend last time...
cheers..
and really like the comp.. not to busy but still a lot of stuff in it... I bet you gonna make this fun to see progress... like the blueish colors too. kind of spacy tones...
I´m keeping a close eye on you, so you don´t loose your kitten... :p
BTW .. dont give a kitten a creditcard this time around.. you know what happend last time...
cheers..
beelow
10-21-2006, 04:31 AM
Nice to see you have something up Sacha! I like the layout although it is a little similar to what you do. But I like it let see where you take this image. Good luck with it!:thumbsup:
TheFirstAngel
10-21-2006, 05:30 AM
calisto: dont worry, the beam wont shoot poor olmy :P glad you like the base, i scribbled rough lies on it and gave it a go
zweiDee: thanks mate :)
Mona: lol, yeah the jedi kitten are an expensive crew :p rofl, cant believe you still remember that, seems havin become a running gag :scream: as for the line art, its very loos by purpose and only is placement, the worst spot mirsky is at work, step one posted in a few secs :)
beelow: yep agree, done many posterattemps before. basically, i done lots of comissions lately for books, so i had a few things in my learning process that pused this forward, and as for the challenge itself, this will be the poster to the trailer i planed. so all the concepts serve a reason. its ok so far, since i done tons of singleframe pieces as well lately and i got rid of being stuck on posters quiet much :p glad you still like it
and now :) time for the first update, colorpass 1 on a russian hero :)
zweiDee: thanks mate :)
Mona: lol, yeah the jedi kitten are an expensive crew :p rofl, cant believe you still remember that, seems havin become a running gag :scream: as for the line art, its very loos by purpose and only is placement, the worst spot mirsky is at work, step one posted in a few secs :)
beelow: yep agree, done many posterattemps before. basically, i done lots of comissions lately for books, so i had a few things in my learning process that pused this forward, and as for the challenge itself, this will be the poster to the trailer i planed. so all the concepts serve a reason. its ok so far, since i done tons of singleframe pieces as well lately and i got rid of being stuck on posters quiet much :p glad you still like it
and now :) time for the first update, colorpass 1 on a russian hero :)
TheFirstAngel
10-21-2006, 05:32 AM
http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/14/11653/11653_1161405154_medium.jpg (http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/14/11653/11653_1161405154_large.jpg)
first pass on Mirsky, sculpting the facial features. :)
first pass on Mirsky, sculpting the facial features. :)
nwiz25
10-21-2006, 06:13 AM
:bowdown:
sacha u rock man!
:bowdown:
m lost for words dude!
:eek: sensational concepts man! its emerging in all its glory! :eek:
cheers to u mate! n good luck as always!
:thumbsup:
sacha u rock man!
:bowdown:
m lost for words dude!
:eek: sensational concepts man! its emerging in all its glory! :eek:
cheers to u mate! n good luck as always!
:thumbsup:
warpy
10-21-2006, 07:03 AM
hey sash, why dont you video your progress and make a nice tut for all of us (me) ;) ?
let me see some of the girls in the picture too :)
let me see some of the girls in the picture too :)
Gunilla
10-21-2006, 08:57 AM
Ohh... that's a handsome hero - well painted too :)
I really like the purple colorset for this - will you keep it?
Rock on :thumbsup:
I really like the purple colorset for this - will you keep it?
Rock on :thumbsup:
OmeN2501
10-21-2006, 09:52 AM
Kudos on Mirsky - he really looks like russian soldier :] just like I pictured him
atilla
10-21-2006, 10:24 AM
sacha you are great... u are going well.. all of your works are perfect. I am following your thread with a delight. keep going on:thumbsup:
brrrhmmm
10-21-2006, 10:32 AM
Very nice Potraits.Can you show more of the girl ,you are very well known in that
area .Also where is the scene located ,in which chamber?Can wait to see your textures
and details.And please comment on the art people.I luv sacha as much as you people but reading through 18 pages of webpages in the early months is pretty rough going.:)
area .Also where is the scene located ,in which chamber?Can wait to see your textures
and details.And please comment on the art people.I luv sacha as much as you people but reading through 18 pages of webpages in the early months is pretty rough going.:)
TheFirstAngel
10-21-2006, 09:07 PM
http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/14/11653/11653_1161461230_large.jpg
just a screengrab, coloring patricias portrait. warpy suggested to let her look straight into the cam so a second versionis on the way. next update in a few mins :)
just a screengrab, coloring patricias portrait. warpy suggested to let her look straight into the cam so a second versionis on the way. next update in a few mins :)
TheFirstAngel
10-21-2006, 09:31 PM
nwiz25: thank you so much my friend
warpy: yeah if technical problems are solved on vidgrabing i'll do that, told you yesterday, with 1600x1200 the videofiles very fast get very big, we're going to have a look at this later today, so why not :) still, i think there's many ppl having a way more classic way to work than me you could learn a much more solid technique from... ^^
Gunilla: this only is an initial colorpass, see it as a diffuse map, speaking for those who do 3d like you. i usually start from a basecolor and let colors interact with each oter on the fly with specular highlight, environmental ambient light reflection, the whole gi stuff, lightamount and resulting sss. thou, its funny to think like that while painting, i know :p
OmeN2501: thanks a lot. while i was unsure if he looks russian enough, glad you say he does. i am working from a very loose base here to have the freedom to develop the characters on the fly. i hope they all will have the expression and features at the end i want them to, i layed 70% of the images weight on charactersesign while the rest comes together from scene's of the book :)
atilla: thanks a lot my friend. i can ensure you my wrks are far from being perfect. since i remember, i have ever ever finished a piece i was happy with, cuz there's always stuff i couldnt get right, but looking at old works gives me chills at least wich means, the practicing at least was worth it. perfect is something that never will happen anyways but i work on my skills daily to improve the approach :) thanks for the compliment!
brrrhmmm:Very nice Potraits.Can you show more of the girl ,you are very well known in that
area .Also where is the scene located ,in which chamber?Can wait to see your textures
and details.And please comment on the art people.I luv sacha as much as you people but reading through 18 pages of webpages in the early months is pretty rough going.
hey mate :) ok, i am not completely sure if i understood you right in all points. but i try to answer as good as i can.
1 thanks a lot, glad you like the prepares.
2 here's a first preview of the girl, and the next version is on the way, ^^ didn't even know my well work is known, there's many heavyweighters, i dont see me as one at all.
2 as for the layout, i picked the center as the circle of the thistledownlibrary navigationsystem, main canvas is a view into the citycomplex.
Upper left corner is the russian armada aproaching the stone in the upper right corner
lower left corner is the placement for the sixth chamber and lower right corner the placement for axis city that is moving down the beam, to get some of the important scenes integrated in the piece.
as for the comments, i always try to comment and answer as good as i can and am very thankfull for the continious crits and comments, also i always try to help if i can, thats what makes this community simply great :) hehe yeah 18 pages are unbelievable, simply didnt expect such a feedback besides all prepares were done for the whole project to get it running. as for now, i work on the poster, and enjoy the freedom i have in it in developping.
next version of patricia up in a few mins, painting her now
thanks a lot everyone for the grat comments and crits, best of luck to you all and keeep on rocking!
warpy: yeah if technical problems are solved on vidgrabing i'll do that, told you yesterday, with 1600x1200 the videofiles very fast get very big, we're going to have a look at this later today, so why not :) still, i think there's many ppl having a way more classic way to work than me you could learn a much more solid technique from... ^^
Gunilla: this only is an initial colorpass, see it as a diffuse map, speaking for those who do 3d like you. i usually start from a basecolor and let colors interact with each oter on the fly with specular highlight, environmental ambient light reflection, the whole gi stuff, lightamount and resulting sss. thou, its funny to think like that while painting, i know :p
OmeN2501: thanks a lot. while i was unsure if he looks russian enough, glad you say he does. i am working from a very loose base here to have the freedom to develop the characters on the fly. i hope they all will have the expression and features at the end i want them to, i layed 70% of the images weight on charactersesign while the rest comes together from scene's of the book :)
atilla: thanks a lot my friend. i can ensure you my wrks are far from being perfect. since i remember, i have ever ever finished a piece i was happy with, cuz there's always stuff i couldnt get right, but looking at old works gives me chills at least wich means, the practicing at least was worth it. perfect is something that never will happen anyways but i work on my skills daily to improve the approach :) thanks for the compliment!
brrrhmmm:Very nice Potraits.Can you show more of the girl ,you are very well known in that
area .Also where is the scene located ,in which chamber?Can wait to see your textures
and details.And please comment on the art people.I luv sacha as much as you people but reading through 18 pages of webpages in the early months is pretty rough going.
hey mate :) ok, i am not completely sure if i understood you right in all points. but i try to answer as good as i can.
1 thanks a lot, glad you like the prepares.
2 here's a first preview of the girl, and the next version is on the way, ^^ didn't even know my well work is known, there's many heavyweighters, i dont see me as one at all.
2 as for the layout, i picked the center as the circle of the thistledownlibrary navigationsystem, main canvas is a view into the citycomplex.
Upper left corner is the russian armada aproaching the stone in the upper right corner
lower left corner is the placement for the sixth chamber and lower right corner the placement for axis city that is moving down the beam, to get some of the important scenes integrated in the piece.
as for the comments, i always try to comment and answer as good as i can and am very thankfull for the continious crits and comments, also i always try to help if i can, thats what makes this community simply great :) hehe yeah 18 pages are unbelievable, simply didnt expect such a feedback besides all prepares were done for the whole project to get it running. as for now, i work on the poster, and enjoy the freedom i have in it in developping.
next version of patricia up in a few mins, painting her now
thanks a lot everyone for the grat comments and crits, best of luck to you all and keeep on rocking!
TheFirstAngel
10-21-2006, 11:34 PM
http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/14/11653/11653_1161470044_large.jpg
here's the frontal shot, now whats better? semiprofile or a frontal shot?
here's the frontal shot, now whats better? semiprofile or a frontal shot?
Zapan
10-21-2006, 11:52 PM
Yes I like to vote .... feel like to be useful in some ways !
I would say the .... mmh .... the semiprofile ... but don't ask me why ...
Amazing sketches .... it's really like some eye candies !
Keep up the aceness Sacha
cheers ,
-Zapan
I would say the .... mmh .... the semiprofile ... but don't ask me why ...
Amazing sketches .... it's really like some eye candies !
Keep up the aceness Sacha
cheers ,
-Zapan
ramy badie
10-21-2006, 11:54 PM
Really nice sketches, I'm going with the semi-profile as well. My only comment about it is that I feel that she is looking too much up, and I think it'd be nicer if you had her more like, staring into the distance. Right now her expression looks like she might be confused in that one. I like the angle more though :)
TheFirstAngel
10-21-2006, 11:56 PM
http://www.angel3d.ch/content/challenge/eon/04_cwip01a_patricia_step01c.jpg
version c with eyes only turned
version c with eyes only turned
ramy badie
10-22-2006, 12:04 AM
I just commented, but I wanted to say that I really like this version c. Definitely puts together what I was looking for, my only issue now is that the other characters are also looking at the viewer. I feel that patricia should be the only one, and the others should be looking straight ahead in the directions they are looking. I think that would open up the piece more too, extend it beyond the canvas.
TheFirstAngel
10-22-2006, 12:09 AM
good point ramy thx. :thumbsup:
OKMER
10-22-2006, 01:40 AM
Yop,yop Sacha,Agree with you and RAmy for Patricia looking elswhere.
Really,really nice work mate!!!
And indeed the guy really has got an Russian touch!!!
And she latina!,funny to see the german version of photoshop,ha,ha!
Anyway, keep m rocking mate!
und macht der kracht mit der sein(i think),ha,ha
Really,really nice work mate!!!
And indeed the guy really has got an Russian touch!!!
And she latina!,funny to see the german version of photoshop,ha,ha!
Anyway, keep m rocking mate!
und macht der kracht mit der sein(i think),ha,ha
TheFirstAngel
10-22-2006, 03:29 AM
http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/14/11653/11653_1161484158_large.jpg
ok, continued on version c, here's a closeup of what i am painting :)
ok, continued on version c, here's a closeup of what i am painting :)
TheFirstAngel
10-22-2006, 03:39 AM
Zapan: thanks a lot mate! well its isnt quiet much where i want her to or an other of the characters but the renderingprocess has trated and its fun :) thanks for the vote ^^ i went for c :)
ramy badie: thanks for the help mate! i am thankful for the hint and went for the c version :)
OKMER: rofl yeah its a bit unusual huh :P lol, yerah may the force be with you too^^
as for warpy asked for steps, here's another one just building on the values sculpting the facial features, and... i paint on 200% usually to see what i do :) hope you like the progress :)
best of luck to you all and thanks for the visit, keep on rocking! :buttrock: :beer:
ramy badie: thanks for the help mate! i am thankful for the hint and went for the c version :)
OKMER: rofl yeah its a bit unusual huh :P lol, yerah may the force be with you too^^
as for warpy asked for steps, here's another one just building on the values sculpting the facial features, and... i paint on 200% usually to see what i do :) hope you like the progress :)
best of luck to you all and thanks for the visit, keep on rocking! :buttrock: :beer:
nwiz25
10-22-2006, 04:47 AM
:eek:
she
is
divine
:eek:
u really pulled it off with her expressions!
mindblowing dude!
:applause:
good luck as always! :thumbsup:
she
is
divine
:eek:
u really pulled it off with her expressions!
mindblowing dude!
:applause:
good luck as always! :thumbsup:
NH
10-22-2006, 10:49 AM
Man that's simply amazing work ! :eek:
I like what the way you worked on Patricia ! Really impressive mate !:thumbsup:
But... I think that you have to review the alignement on the eyes, nose and mouth :
http://bouboul.ifrance.com/pat---align.jpg
Keep it up dude ! U rock man ! :bounce:
I like what the way you worked on Patricia ! Really impressive mate !:thumbsup:
But... I think that you have to review the alignement on the eyes, nose and mouth :
http://bouboul.ifrance.com/pat---align.jpg
Keep it up dude ! U rock man ! :bounce:
DelBoyW
10-22-2006, 03:48 PM
Beautiful sketch, i was wondering is this girl i always see in your illustrations your girlfriend?
TheFirstAngel
10-22-2006, 05:29 PM
nwiz25: thanks mate :) glad you like the progress :)
bouboul: thanks mate, seen that when i switched on my machine this morning... lol yeah such things happen after long nights thanks for the review.
Didea: lol... maybe :p
now here's a fixed updated version of the portrait, in manner to post steps, made a highlight pass and the fun goes on :)
bouboul: thanks mate, seen that when i switched on my machine this morning... lol yeah such things happen after long nights thanks for the review.
Didea: lol... maybe :p
now here's a fixed updated version of the portrait, in manner to post steps, made a highlight pass and the fun goes on :)
TheFirstAngel
10-22-2006, 05:37 PM
http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/14/11653/11653_1161535075_large.jpg
k here's what i done. he eyes area has te sharpest contours along with nosetip and lipboardes they get sharp highlights paintes in screen mode. eyes rebounce light and have gem properties in the refraction area, litten the iris on the oposite side of the specular highlight with colordoge.
as for skin, adding s light bit of a more sturated area to the cheeks and around the nosetip ads a nice rosy touch. shadowpass and final highlights follow later, basic sculpting done 80% :)
hope those points help the one or the other :)
k here's what i done. he eyes area has te sharpest contours along with nosetip and lipboardes they get sharp highlights paintes in screen mode. eyes rebounce light and have gem properties in the refraction area, litten the iris on the oposite side of the specular highlight with colordoge.
as for skin, adding s light bit of a more sturated area to the cheeks and around the nosetip ads a nice rosy touch. shadowpass and final highlights follow later, basic sculpting done 80% :)
hope those points help the one or the other :)
calisto-lynn
10-22-2006, 07:16 PM
great work!! i love it!!
nwiz25
10-22-2006, 07:45 PM
details galore! :eek:
keep em comin Sacha!
u got me droolin! :drool:
keep em comin Sacha!
u got me droolin! :drool:
Runecaster
10-22-2006, 08:05 PM
I've just read through this whole thread, what an inspiration!! Lots of food for thought -- thank you so much for showing the beautiful closeups. I love to see your ideas!
ramy badie
10-22-2006, 08:16 PM
Hm to be honest, I like the version before this one more. Even though the facial features were slightly misaligned, it just looked better overall. It seems too shiny in some odd places, making the face look like it is swollen in a few areas. It's still looking good, but I just feel that the shading before made the face look better.
TheFirstAngel
10-22-2006, 10:41 PM
http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/14/11653/11653_1161553284_large.jpg
i agree with rami the specular highlights were too strong in certain areas. toned down a few parts, also corrected midtones to a softer range.
added the first warmcolorpass, and the fun goes on. next pass :)
i agree with rami the specular highlights were too strong in certain areas. toned down a few parts, also corrected midtones to a softer range.
added the first warmcolorpass, and the fun goes on. next pass :)
tlggungor
10-22-2006, 10:47 PM
wonderfull painting... I love her face details...Really good
ori@r.a.m
10-22-2006, 10:50 PM
wow great one. really nice patinting :thumbsup: keep on..
Terro
10-22-2006, 10:51 PM
Brilliant work. The skin tone and it's transparancy is wonderfull. I can't wait to see it all finished. Best of luck to you.
TheFirstAngel
10-22-2006, 10:52 PM
calisto: thanks a lot red ^^
nwiz25: glad you like the progress :)
Runecaster: hehe, yep i promissed warpy to post steps so he can see how i build her up. hope that helps others too to get 1 or the other helpfull idea :)
Ramy: you were right, toned down what i thought was wrong and made the midtones softer. hope thats more pleasing now :) on with the fun, thanks for the honest and constructiive crits
Ori@r.a.m (http://forums.cgsociety.org/Ori@r.a.m) THanks mate
Terro: Thanks a lot :) well still a way to go but slowly getting there. my main target was to have her rendered good enough to have a guideline of the style.best of luck to you too :)
Tolga: thank you so much :) i am happy you like her :) yay!
nwiz25: glad you like the progress :)
Runecaster: hehe, yep i promissed warpy to post steps so he can see how i build her up. hope that helps others too to get 1 or the other helpfull idea :)
Ramy: you were right, toned down what i thought was wrong and made the midtones softer. hope thats more pleasing now :) on with the fun, thanks for the honest and constructiive crits
Ori@r.a.m (http://forums.cgsociety.org/Ori@r.a.m) THanks mate
Terro: Thanks a lot :) well still a way to go but slowly getting there. my main target was to have her rendered good enough to have a guideline of the style.best of luck to you too :)
Tolga: thank you so much :) i am happy you like her :) yay!
ramy badie
10-22-2006, 11:00 PM
hot stuff man! Much improved now, you got exactly what I was referring to. Patricia as played by adriana lima? Regardless, it's looking awesome. I can't wait to see you work on this more. I am almost afraid that the other characters won't be able to compete with her, but maybe that's just what you want. You'll work it out and make it great regardless, but you better finish! :D
daWinky
10-23-2006, 06:07 AM
Morning Sacha!
Great to discover your beautiful version of Patricia, a very pleasant look for her:thumbsup: !
Nice to see some steps of her developement, very useful for learning. Keep up with your stunning work!
Nice day for you:wavey: (http://forums.cgsociety.org/misc.php?do=getsmilies&wysiwyg=1&forumid=0#),
-sabrina
Great to discover your beautiful version of Patricia, a very pleasant look for her:thumbsup: !
Nice to see some steps of her developement, very useful for learning. Keep up with your stunning work!
Nice day for you:wavey: (http://forums.cgsociety.org/misc.php?do=getsmilies&wysiwyg=1&forumid=0#),
-sabrina
DrIvErD
10-23-2006, 08:50 PM
:thumbsup: good work sasha and hope all best :thumbsup:
SONIC-X
10-24-2006, 06:14 AM
Beautiful painting Sacha.Love your work.
cg-alx
10-24-2006, 07:22 AM
wow, really beautiful Patricia, way too beautiful i might say, i think she is described as a simple girl not so breath taking, love the depth of her eyes though.
Suirebit
10-24-2006, 10:46 AM
Wow great entries so far, I especially enjoy the portrait :) Keep it up
Mannayta
10-24-2006, 11:05 AM
Jip, greetings from Denmark, best of luck in the competition, you do awesome work :)
Borro
10-24-2006, 11:43 AM
Everything looks great! Keep up the good work as you always do!
Best of luck with the challenge! I hope you win this one.
Best regards from Karlsruhe, Germany!!
Best of luck with the challenge! I hope you win this one.
Best regards from Karlsruhe, Germany!!
Jakyll
10-24-2006, 11:48 AM
Oh my god! I love her!
claudiojordao
10-24-2006, 12:18 PM
Hello Sacha... I'm so very much impressed with your wonderful work... more then developing your work, you are contributing to the all community with fantastic references and ideas for those, like me, who fell some dificulty in reading the all book... as for me... thank you very much, and I wish you the best of luck!
Conkrys
10-24-2006, 12:47 PM
Sacha, Patricia is looking beautiful. You really got the cat-eye feel and she looks sweet.
MichaelZHsee
10-25-2006, 01:59 AM
nice going sacha~i see ur now focusing in ur characters,lovely:D
TheFirstAngel
10-25-2006, 05:46 AM
Ramy: thanks a lot my friend, yay Adriana Lima as Patricia, the one topnotch mathematician of our era? Would be as great as Dr Chrismas Jones, i loved when Denise Richards explained "i am a russin Nuclearphysician", i instantly bought that and had to watch the film for its deeply philosophical storyline and acuracy :p. erm. still, she would look hot. no doubt :) i'll give my best to finish
Morning Sabrina! thanks a lot, glad you like the portrait. yeah i get asked often so i posted a few steps, and made a sketchsession today for warpy as well, thought i post it here too hope you enjoy ^^
Ahmed: thank you so much my friend, and best of luck too!
SonixX: thaks mate!
CG Alx: Hehe, yeah i haven't finished her but since a normal latina with cateyes already looks stunning i think you are just too spoiled with cute girls in mexico ^^ thought, i tried give her that fragile feel as well as determination and sadness for having lost her world. further development of her tomorrow.
Suirebit: thank you very much
Mannayty: thanls glad you like what i do :)
Borro: hey old friend good to see ya! all my best wishes to Karlsruhe then, sounds like great news
Jakyll: thanks mate
Claudio Jordao: thank you so much my friend! believe it or not i partiially had my dear problems to understand parts of it as well and read them over and over again, since my motherlanguage isnt english either. it's an honor for me to hear my prepares inspired you, thank you so much!
Conkrys: thanks a lot!
Michael: haha yeah, thought i get em out of the canvas a bit to see how the composition works . yay! glad y a like it!
ok here's a little extra that has nothing to do with the challenge but since warpy asked me to do it i added made a little sketchsessiontoday. here's the toonsketch plus
http://www.angel3d.ch/bryce/sketchwarpy.jpg
you can download the clip of it here
http://www.angel3d.ch/bryce/warpysml_full_divx.rar (http://www.angel3d.ch/bryce/warpysml_full_divx.rar)
hope you enjoy
thanks all for the contious encouragements and helpful crits, its just great to be doing this along with you, you kick ass rock! keep it up! :beer::buttrock:
Morning Sabrina! thanks a lot, glad you like the portrait. yeah i get asked often so i posted a few steps, and made a sketchsession today for warpy as well, thought i post it here too hope you enjoy ^^
Ahmed: thank you so much my friend, and best of luck too!
SonixX: thaks mate!
CG Alx: Hehe, yeah i haven't finished her but since a normal latina with cateyes already looks stunning i think you are just too spoiled with cute girls in mexico ^^ thought, i tried give her that fragile feel as well as determination and sadness for having lost her world. further development of her tomorrow.
Suirebit: thank you very much
Mannayty: thanls glad you like what i do :)
Borro: hey old friend good to see ya! all my best wishes to Karlsruhe then, sounds like great news
Jakyll: thanks mate
Claudio Jordao: thank you so much my friend! believe it or not i partiially had my dear problems to understand parts of it as well and read them over and over again, since my motherlanguage isnt english either. it's an honor for me to hear my prepares inspired you, thank you so much!
Conkrys: thanks a lot!
Michael: haha yeah, thought i get em out of the canvas a bit to see how the composition works . yay! glad y a like it!
ok here's a little extra that has nothing to do with the challenge but since warpy asked me to do it i added made a little sketchsessiontoday. here's the toonsketch plus
http://www.angel3d.ch/bryce/sketchwarpy.jpg
you can download the clip of it here
http://www.angel3d.ch/bryce/warpysml_full_divx.rar (http://www.angel3d.ch/bryce/warpysml_full_divx.rar)
hope you enjoy
thanks all for the contious encouragements and helpful crits, its just great to be doing this along with you, you kick ass rock! keep it up! :beer::buttrock:
NH
10-25-2006, 11:00 AM
yapaaaaaaaaa ! What a clip mate ! :applause: Impressive ! Very cool ! :bounce:... I saw your brushes window too !:eek: :drool: Got links for good brushes ? :D Want to share yours ? :D:D
Waiting for your next step on EON ! Big up mate ! :thumbsup:
Waiting for your next step on EON ! Big up mate ! :thumbsup:
Neubius
10-25-2006, 11:31 AM
loving all the updates. how do you get so much done? do you not sleep ????
excellent stuff dude,
A
excellent stuff dude,
A
DrIvErD
10-25-2006, 01:57 PM
thanks sacha for this lovely video and you scketching pretty cool i will learn many from it thanks for helping us ahngel :bounce:
kmest
10-25-2006, 05:58 PM
holleeeee......hallo sacha....wie gehts du???
sorry for not checking here sooner...im not in good mood these days and too busy..but anyway...GREAT PROGRESSES here..the new design is fantastic..the composition adn the whole atmosphere is just great...and the ..hehehe....the lovely new girl is just awesome........and she's BIG......i hope you go more details on her face this time and make her as realstick as possible.....:thumbsup::thumbsup:
hope to see it on the cover of the new book..:buttrock:
Cya and keep ROCKING:bounce::bounce::bounce:
sorry for not checking here sooner...im not in good mood these days and too busy..but anyway...GREAT PROGRESSES here..the new design is fantastic..the composition adn the whole atmosphere is just great...and the ..hehehe....the lovely new girl is just awesome........and she's BIG......i hope you go more details on her face this time and make her as realstick as possible.....:thumbsup::thumbsup:
hope to see it on the cover of the new book..:buttrock:
Cya and keep ROCKING:bounce::bounce::bounce:
rawwad
10-26-2006, 01:20 PM
Beautiful last update! I like her, I mean that update with girl, hehe:scream: not that guy with fairy, he is not so pretty.
flaeticia
10-26-2006, 03:53 PM
bammm bamm !
nothing more to add :)
thats really excellent :)
ure killing sacha !! really killing !
:bounce:
nothing more to add :)
thats really excellent :)
ure killing sacha !! really killing !
:bounce:
MartinNielsen
10-26-2006, 04:05 PM
There's nothing that can stop you, right? You're running too fast...
TheFirstAngel
10-27-2006, 02:38 AM
http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/14/11653/11653_1161913121_large.jpg
basecolors on the characters, olmi redone, because i got it completely wrong and almost made it to create an olmifrant :p
basically brought laniers and olmis portrait to the first level of rendering, now starting on environmental parts as long a everything is still rough - so i can see how things work together :)
weeee finally a slight update :) hope you like it :)
basecolors on the characters, olmi redone, because i got it completely wrong and almost made it to create an olmifrant :p
basically brought laniers and olmis portrait to the first level of rendering, now starting on environmental parts as long a everything is still rough - so i can see how things work together :)
weeee finally a slight update :) hope you like it :)
TheFirstAngel
10-27-2006, 03:05 AM
bouboul: hahah lol thanks mate :) since i think one of the greatest parts of the challenge is the learning effect, i thought it would be a good idea to post the little session here too ^^ glad you liked it. well, you can download the goro (http://www.area-56.de/tutorials/goros_brushes.abr)-brushes tascha (http://tascha.ch/tutorials/steps/Taschas_brushes.rar)-brushes and m@ brushes wich all rock, i use some of them as well. As for mine, i will make a downloadable set if i find some time to sort em out.
Neubius: lol not much theese days, thats the challenge effect :p but yeah not every evening is same productive, glad there's still 80 days to go ^^
DrIvErD: most welcome my friend :) keep on rocking too ^^
kmest: i will in time, this time i am smarter and refine the all over level of detail so i can concentrate on focal points when the whole piece more or less works instead of being stuck on a big fat messs again and paint 120 px high figurines and decors 30 px high noone ever will see and loose so much time i have to drop it ^^ lol. glad you like the work on the girl. ^^
rawwad: hahaha so you didnt like the fairy guy pretty ^^ dw, me neither was fun anyways :p glad you like her, already moving on ^^
Flaeticia: thank you so much falbala! ^^ congrats on the hottie thread by the way, keep it burning hot and rock on! :buttrock:
MartinNielsen: hahaha nah man, i wish. well i practice speed. that for a good reason. i feel like a snail when i seen the speed of ppl like the AD of Warhammer Cardgame departement doing 27 paintings in 1 week. and i intend to change that, being faster has a big plus. i have more time left to work on details wich actually lifts the all over level again... sooooo speedtraining makes sense and i do that the whole year already and still am that snail :blush: but i work on it :)
thanks a ll for the great feedback. posted a betweenpost for showing what i'm working on. hope you like it and have fun yourself too! keep it up, lets rock:beer::wip::buttrock:
Neubius: lol not much theese days, thats the challenge effect :p but yeah not every evening is same productive, glad there's still 80 days to go ^^
DrIvErD: most welcome my friend :) keep on rocking too ^^
kmest: i will in time, this time i am smarter and refine the all over level of detail so i can concentrate on focal points when the whole piece more or less works instead of being stuck on a big fat messs again and paint 120 px high figurines and decors 30 px high noone ever will see and loose so much time i have to drop it ^^ lol. glad you like the work on the girl. ^^
rawwad: hahaha so you didnt like the fairy guy pretty ^^ dw, me neither was fun anyways :p glad you like her, already moving on ^^
Flaeticia: thank you so much falbala! ^^ congrats on the hottie thread by the way, keep it burning hot and rock on! :buttrock:
MartinNielsen: hahaha nah man, i wish. well i practice speed. that for a good reason. i feel like a snail when i seen the speed of ppl like the AD of Warhammer Cardgame departement doing 27 paintings in 1 week. and i intend to change that, being faster has a big plus. i have more time left to work on details wich actually lifts the all over level again... sooooo speedtraining makes sense and i do that the whole year already and still am that snail :blush: but i work on it :)
thanks a ll for the great feedback. posted a betweenpost for showing what i'm working on. hope you like it and have fun yourself too! keep it up, lets rock:beer::wip::buttrock:
Runecaster
10-27-2006, 03:27 AM
this is just beautiful, Patricia is stunning! I cant wait to see the rest! I do believe Ser Olmy has no nostrils, but I am sure you're going to finish that off just right :)
mehmi
10-27-2006, 04:52 AM
:bounce:*laughs at top guys expression* heehee tis cute lol. drink in the butchness :buttrock::love:
daWinky
10-27-2006, 07:17 AM
Hey Sacha...
Great update, good to see you've restarted the Olmy-portrait - the previous one really looked more like the Frant:p ...nothing to crit at all, color, lighting and of course Patricia...this is already very pleasant and I'm curious to discover more of your environment now!:bounce:
Nice day for you!
-sabrina
Great update, good to see you've restarted the Olmy-portrait - the previous one really looked more like the Frant:p ...nothing to crit at all, color, lighting and of course Patricia...this is already very pleasant and I'm curious to discover more of your environment now!:bounce:
Nice day for you!
-sabrina
Garde
10-27-2006, 12:33 PM
OMG, some serious painting skills you got there:) Great concepts throughout, can' t wait to see where you gonna go with the final image.
I myself didn't vision Patricia quite as jessicalbaish/adrianalimaish but that's a personal opinion. Beautiful definitely but maybe in some less mainstream way...
Anyways, keep it up. This thread seems to be a great source of inspiration for us mere mortals:) Maybe even I can soon get this challenge started.
I myself didn't vision Patricia quite as jessicalbaish/adrianalimaish but that's a personal opinion. Beautiful definitely but maybe in some less mainstream way...
Anyways, keep it up. This thread seems to be a great source of inspiration for us mere mortals:) Maybe even I can soon get this challenge started.
niva
10-27-2006, 02:59 PM
Hey Sacha, I'm once again glued to your thread even though I'm not participating. Thanks a bunch for making that video, I watched it yesterday but felt like saying something now, learning so much from stuff like this. Really thanks a lot!
You did a couple of tricks which I don't know about:one that comes to mind right now was towards the middle you selected an area below the ogre and applied some type of a fog, I'm guessing the background color gray, it seeped outside of the selection area. What was that? It was quick and worked very well, I need to try it.
The way you work is completely different from how I work, maybe that's why I sux and you do so great haha.
You did a couple of tricks which I don't know about:one that comes to mind right now was towards the middle you selected an area below the ogre and applied some type of a fog, I'm guessing the background color gray, it seeped outside of the selection area. What was that? It was quick and worked very well, I need to try it.
The way you work is completely different from how I work, maybe that's why I sux and you do so great haha.
tomG
10-27-2006, 04:47 PM
hoi säschu :-))
i wünsche dir viiiu glück! isch ja hammermässig was du machsch! i wirde diner sache im oug phaute! :buttrock:
liebe gruess
thom
i wünsche dir viiiu glück! isch ja hammermässig was du machsch! i wirde diner sache im oug phaute! :buttrock:
liebe gruess
thom
madshooter
10-27-2006, 05:01 PM
Patricia looks beautifull:) Now waiting for environment update. Keep going:thumbsup::bounce:
Greatto
10-28-2006, 03:24 PM
Greetings....
I think I fall in love with Patricia. She is so beautiful, amazing...
I'm imagine your Patricia when read the book :)
P.S. can I use your Patricia image like background on my computer?
Good Luck...
I think I fall in love with Patricia. She is so beautiful, amazing...
I'm imagine your Patricia when read the book :)
P.S. can I use your Patricia image like background on my computer?
Good Luck...
mmoir
10-28-2006, 04:24 PM
Hey Sacha,
Very good looking characters in your image , it has a nice poster feel to it. Great job on this so far.
Very good looking characters in your image , it has a nice poster feel to it. Great job on this so far.
MartinNielsen
10-29-2006, 12:13 AM
My god... she's beautiful! :love:I just couldn't resist watching her. You make her look so real and human, and still you manage to create your own artistic style. My deepest respect :applause:
Slav
10-29-2006, 12:44 AM
dont forget about the other girl.. she looks a bit manly there XD
DelBoyW
10-29-2006, 01:38 AM
I like it dude!! And she is hot!! Damn...maybe you should create another girl or is there another girl? I guess the main character is your girlfriend after all...you create her beauty well, as if you know her. Well i'm only curious!! :applause: Keep it up!
DelBoyW
10-29-2006, 01:41 AM
Just read your other thread...i guess its not your girlfriend and she does really resemble Denise Richards cool!!! Now i know why i like that face. Sorry dude i know its not art related haha!:rolleyes:
TheFirstAngel
10-29-2006, 05:39 PM
LM: yup i know, just playing with his noseanantomy. tricky to make a nose with ho nosetrills so i made small long slits under w square nose.
Mehmi: glad you like the russian hero :)
daWinky: thanls Sabrina, yep right, thats why i repainted him. got confused with frants and olmi and mixed em up ^^ :p
Garde: thanks a lot mate. well yeah she's none either just a young fragile latinamerican type of girl with cateyes, and yeh, sort of an eyecatcher so i thought i center the attention on her. great to hear my work inspires you, would be great if you join the fun too, if so, best of luck mate and have fun ^^
niva: you are welcome. yeah soft ede selecion with backgroundcolor and delete the lines under him causes sort of a groundfog effect fast. lol, nah, since i am a selfeducated painter, i never had a particular order how to paint, i just paint on the fly, got something in my mind and then try to approach it a sfast as possible. i work very freely wich is fun for me to do so. but if you want to paint with a more classical way, you should do that, thats a solid base and will lead you to your target, and once you have that base, you can develop your own ways of working. mine is much improvisation and usually chaotic but fun ^^ great to hear he vid helped you so far.
TomG: merci tom, hihihihi schwiezer hie azträffe isch ja scho öps mit sälteheitswert ^^ freutmi dass der gfallt wasi mölele :)
madshooter: working on the composition, actually, colorwieghts n stuff. later today an update on it i hope ^^
greatto: thanks. sure you can. i will prolly make a few wallpapers of the work here at the end of the challenge anyways and 1 sure will be patricia
Mike Moir: great to see ya here too old friend. yep posterfeeel is by purpose, since i already started on the trailerprepares, its supposed to be the poster to the d work i started
Martin: hhehehe yeah, its pointless for me to paint 100% realistic, i still keep my characters stylized for that reason, to keep a recognizable touch of my work in all of them, glad ya like that ^^
Slav: XD hahahaha errr where? wut? errrr :p
Didea: hahaha no mate wrong again, she's not deise richards, that was just a compare to "dr christmas jones" what would come out to send Adriana lima into deepspace, thou, that of course would look great but i doubt i'd buy it, her being our time's greatest mathematician and astrophysican... but yes, at least not that wrong. i like denise richards, she adds that "babe-aspect" to an optic as adriana would too - cuteness. me painting a cute young girl will usually head into such a direction. besides, my gf has a smove round face a buttonnose and big beautiful eyes as well, i like that and i think most males do (?)
now for the girlhunt in detail and a few general thoughts:
http://www.angel3d.ch/content/3d/wip/masterandservant2d/sketch02_interrupted.jpg
lets see. i done toonstuff all my life long where i built up my type of dynamics. watch my clip so you can see what i mean. i made 3d wich helped me understand light, materials, shaders wich helps to render materials and you are forced to study and understand all you wanna do 360° up and down round and round before you start to trow the first spline.
thought the buttonnose and stuff is mostly a relict from my toonstyle, most painters i know have an own specific way to paint young girls recognizable they done it, such as Aly Fell, Dunkelgold, Jason Chan, Oz Haver, Nebezial, Svetlin Velvinov and many many more, they simply draw on their matrix wich doesn't mean they actually had a reallife model. just an own personal way, recognizable under 100ds.
See, thats the style one gets in years, and yeah, you always will find the one or the other celeb that prolly looks a bit like the one or the other girl one painted but there's usually no relation to them.
I usually paint free. refs only if i get stuck and have to fix things that are totally off, that's tweaking. why? i seen many many artists doing lazy stuff like photomanipulation or at least strong relative to refs such as copy photos. thats ok so far for practicing but keeps you bound on something given - not saying inspiration isn't ok, but theres a huge difference between copy something or being inspired by something - i'd rather paint a nose or whatever thats off and fix it while painting than being bound. The maintarget of an artist should be to create with his tools, a recreation of his own mind, fantasy, his ideas, his visions. Therefor, being stuck on photorefs blocks your own creativety. Also, if you are in a productionpipeline, working under pressure, it can't - mustn't be - your work ends up being way under the expectations your work promisses.
See, thats basically why there's no specific girl being my model. And yes, my gf's all looked a bit that way cuz thats the type of young girls i like. Wich still doesn't mean i painted my gfs. hope that explains it so far. Girls girls girls 1 more time :rolleyes:
http://www.angel3d.ch/content/3d/wip/masterandservant2d/sketch04c_snakedancer.jpg
Mehmi: glad you like the russian hero :)
daWinky: thanls Sabrina, yep right, thats why i repainted him. got confused with frants and olmi and mixed em up ^^ :p
Garde: thanks a lot mate. well yeah she's none either just a young fragile latinamerican type of girl with cateyes, and yeh, sort of an eyecatcher so i thought i center the attention on her. great to hear my work inspires you, would be great if you join the fun too, if so, best of luck mate and have fun ^^
niva: you are welcome. yeah soft ede selecion with backgroundcolor and delete the lines under him causes sort of a groundfog effect fast. lol, nah, since i am a selfeducated painter, i never had a particular order how to paint, i just paint on the fly, got something in my mind and then try to approach it a sfast as possible. i work very freely wich is fun for me to do so. but if you want to paint with a more classical way, you should do that, thats a solid base and will lead you to your target, and once you have that base, you can develop your own ways of working. mine is much improvisation and usually chaotic but fun ^^ great to hear he vid helped you so far.
TomG: merci tom, hihihihi schwiezer hie azträffe isch ja scho öps mit sälteheitswert ^^ freutmi dass der gfallt wasi mölele :)
madshooter: working on the composition, actually, colorwieghts n stuff. later today an update on it i hope ^^
greatto: thanks. sure you can. i will prolly make a few wallpapers of the work here at the end of the challenge anyways and 1 sure will be patricia
Mike Moir: great to see ya here too old friend. yep posterfeeel is by purpose, since i already started on the trailerprepares, its supposed to be the poster to the d work i started
Martin: hhehehe yeah, its pointless for me to paint 100% realistic, i still keep my characters stylized for that reason, to keep a recognizable touch of my work in all of them, glad ya like that ^^
Slav: XD hahahaha errr where? wut? errrr :p
Didea: hahaha no mate wrong again, she's not deise richards, that was just a compare to "dr christmas jones" what would come out to send Adriana lima into deepspace, thou, that of course would look great but i doubt i'd buy it, her being our time's greatest mathematician and astrophysican... but yes, at least not that wrong. i like denise richards, she adds that "babe-aspect" to an optic as adriana would too - cuteness. me painting a cute young girl will usually head into such a direction. besides, my gf has a smove round face a buttonnose and big beautiful eyes as well, i like that and i think most males do (?)
now for the girlhunt in detail and a few general thoughts:
http://www.angel3d.ch/content/3d/wip/masterandservant2d/sketch02_interrupted.jpg
lets see. i done toonstuff all my life long where i built up my type of dynamics. watch my clip so you can see what i mean. i made 3d wich helped me understand light, materials, shaders wich helps to render materials and you are forced to study and understand all you wanna do 360° up and down round and round before you start to trow the first spline.
thought the buttonnose and stuff is mostly a relict from my toonstyle, most painters i know have an own specific way to paint young girls recognizable they done it, such as Aly Fell, Dunkelgold, Jason Chan, Oz Haver, Nebezial, Svetlin Velvinov and many many more, they simply draw on their matrix wich doesn't mean they actually had a reallife model. just an own personal way, recognizable under 100ds.
See, thats the style one gets in years, and yeah, you always will find the one or the other celeb that prolly looks a bit like the one or the other girl one painted but there's usually no relation to them.
I usually paint free. refs only if i get stuck and have to fix things that are totally off, that's tweaking. why? i seen many many artists doing lazy stuff like photomanipulation or at least strong relative to refs such as copy photos. thats ok so far for practicing but keeps you bound on something given - not saying inspiration isn't ok, but theres a huge difference between copy something or being inspired by something - i'd rather paint a nose or whatever thats off and fix it while painting than being bound. The maintarget of an artist should be to create with his tools, a recreation of his own mind, fantasy, his ideas, his visions. Therefor, being stuck on photorefs blocks your own creativety. Also, if you are in a productionpipeline, working under pressure, it can't - mustn't be - your work ends up being way under the expectations your work promisses.
See, thats basically why there's no specific girl being my model. And yes, my gf's all looked a bit that way cuz thats the type of young girls i like. Wich still doesn't mean i painted my gfs. hope that explains it so far. Girls girls girls 1 more time :rolleyes:
http://www.angel3d.ch/content/3d/wip/masterandservant2d/sketch04c_snakedancer.jpg
Slav
10-29-2006, 05:48 PM
http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/14/11653/11653_1161913121_large.jpg
in that one! the right most figure... she's missing a mustache!
in that one! the right most figure... she's missing a mustache!
Greatto
10-29-2006, 09:28 PM
I usually paint free. refs only if i get stuck and have to fix things that are totally off, that's tweaking. why? i seen many many artists doing lazy stuff like photomanipulation or at least strong relative to refs such as copy photos. thats ok so far for practicing but keeps you bound on something given - not saying inspiration isn't ok, but theres a huge difference between copy something or being inspired by something - i'd rather paint a nose or whatever thats off and fix it while painting than being bound. The maintarget of an artist should be to create with his tools, a recreation of his own mind, fantasy, his ideas, his visions. Therefor, being stuck on photorefs blocks your own creativety. Also, if you are in a productionpipeline, working under pressure, it can't - mustn't be - your work ends up being way under the expectations your work promisses.
I'm totaly agree with you! Free paint get over the limits, you able to compose and imagine more, than when you working on photo or tweaking... but some time you get experience like body rotation or expression of emotions. I want to add that who starts from zero they have to use empty paper for drawing not redraw the photo or tweaking. I know it on my own expierence. Usualy artists who editing and tweaking the cannot draw on one's own, they just need the photo... Good Luck.
P.S. Thanks for Patricia, I'm waiting impatiently for the wallpaper with Patricia...
I'm totaly agree with you! Free paint get over the limits, you able to compose and imagine more, than when you working on photo or tweaking... but some time you get experience like body rotation or expression of emotions. I want to add that who starts from zero they have to use empty paper for drawing not redraw the photo or tweaking. I know it on my own expierence. Usualy artists who editing and tweaking the cannot draw on one's own, they just need the photo... Good Luck.
P.S. Thanks for Patricia, I'm waiting impatiently for the wallpaper with Patricia...
nwiz25
10-29-2006, 10:59 PM
dude! ur concepts are by far spectacular!
:eek:
really respect and admire ur creativity!
:love:
god gifted!
:thumbsup:
cheers buddy!
:beer:
:eek:
really respect and admire ur creativity!
:love:
god gifted!
:thumbsup:
cheers buddy!
:beer:
TheFirstAngel
10-30-2006, 09:27 AM
Slav:lol, yeah!:scream: erm - huh? :banghead:
Greatto: agree, got my point :) gl 2 u 2 and have fun mate, wallpaper on schedule :)
nwiz25:thanks mate!
ok, something in between started the lowpoly previz of my trailer, just a lighttest for the outer side of the stone and the entry area.
http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/16/12349/12349_1162200071_large.jpg (http://forums.cgsociety.org/showthread.php?p=3968100#post3968100)
trailerfun begins too :)
Greatto: agree, got my point :) gl 2 u 2 and have fun mate, wallpaper on schedule :)
nwiz25:thanks mate!
ok, something in between started the lowpoly previz of my trailer, just a lighttest for the outer side of the stone and the entry area.
http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/16/12349/12349_1162200071_large.jpg (http://forums.cgsociety.org/showthread.php?p=3968100#post3968100)
trailerfun begins too :)
kazziu
10-30-2006, 10:23 AM
Hey Sacha, great work so far ! I like the faces of your characters a lot.
black-hand-77
10-31-2006, 12:50 AM
Love your characters. Especially Patricia. Beauuuutiful! Good luck at Eon!
TheFirstAngel
10-31-2006, 06:02 PM
http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/14/11653/11653_1162317718_large.jpg
just a minor detail from the upper right corner, the stones entry.
just a minor detail from the upper right corner, the stones entry.
TheFirstAngel
10-31-2006, 06:06 PM
black_hand_77, nwizz & kazzui thanks a lot mates :) i shall continue rendering them as soon as i got the environmental elements further, so i can see how the composition works together.
posted 1 part of it right now so you can see what i am about to do :) just planing and refine concepts for getting the composition ready
posted 1 part of it right now so you can see what i am about to do :) just planing and refine concepts for getting the composition ready
nwiz25
10-31-2006, 06:55 PM
:eek: fantastic mate! :eek: :applause: just fantastic!
we want more! we want more! we want more! :P
we want more! we want more! we want more! :P
TheFirstAngel
10-31-2006, 09:12 PM
http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/14/11653/11653_1162329149_large.jpg
playing with center scene attemp on death, in the circle interface of the library's screen
scenesplit of the layout:
-upper left corner, russian armada
framed by the arched architecture of thistledowns hanging and arced architecture
-under the bow, upper right corner, the entry of the stone
lower left cornner, sixcth chamber
lower right corner, the wald, in the background axis city before the takeoff, probably going to add there a spaceship to the far foreground olmy and lanier, and and in the near field patricia opening the gate to gaia.
center characherts from left to right olmi, mirsky particia lanier
center scenepatricia in the library
just a quick betweenpost getting the overview on the whole thing.
hope you like the colorfull chioce i went for this time, its been a very colorful vision i gotten from the book, vivid and lovely tuberidefun wich i tried to get into the main colorchoice of my paintingpalette now.
let's move on to more painting fun, all c&c most welcome, as always :)
playing with center scene attemp on death, in the circle interface of the library's screen
scenesplit of the layout:
-upper left corner, russian armada
framed by the arched architecture of thistledowns hanging and arced architecture
-under the bow, upper right corner, the entry of the stone
lower left cornner, sixcth chamber
lower right corner, the wald, in the background axis city before the takeoff, probably going to add there a spaceship to the far foreground olmy and lanier, and and in the near field patricia opening the gate to gaia.
center characherts from left to right olmi, mirsky particia lanier
center scenepatricia in the library
just a quick betweenpost getting the overview on the whole thing.
hope you like the colorfull chioce i went for this time, its been a very colorful vision i gotten from the book, vivid and lovely tuberidefun wich i tried to get into the main colorchoice of my paintingpalette now.
let's move on to more painting fun, all c&c most welcome, as always :)
nwiz25
10-31-2006, 09:24 PM
:eek:
:eek:
FLABBERGASTED
:eek:
:eek:
this is gonna rock big time buddy!
its a treat for the soul!
:love:
:eek:
FLABBERGASTED
:eek:
:eek:
this is gonna rock big time buddy!
its a treat for the soul!
:love:
beelow
10-31-2006, 09:54 PM
Compostion is good and your colors choices are sexy!:thumbsup:
kmest
10-31-2006, 10:17 PM
woowwwww...
AGAIN
great job sacha....
the
whole
thing
is
awesome
specialy
the
girl
face
and
her
colors
:bounce:
:bounce:
sorry i just could'nt write it like a human:D
AGAIN
great job sacha....
the
whole
thing
is
awesome
specialy
the
girl
face
and
her
colors
:bounce:
:bounce:
sorry i just could'nt write it like a human:D
ori@r.a.m
10-31-2006, 11:12 PM
holy cow, amazing picture! if i would have seen this movie poster i would probably go to see the movie, and then get a poster copy to hang it on my room wall!
keep rocking dude :buttrock: amazing progress, can't wait to see it finished.
keep rocking dude :buttrock: amazing progress, can't wait to see it finished.
mehmi
11-01-2006, 12:56 AM
weeee! big yellow circle. man i should really read the story lol. this looks great angel :) :bounce:
xD rockness:buttrock:
xD rockness:buttrock:
Ivy00
11-01-2006, 01:43 AM
I can't say how many times I have watched this work progress and have been amazed, astounded and all those other good words. It has been a huge help for me to see each step as you post it. I am not a people renderer and attempting my first person ( thankfully I have months to practice before this challenge ends), but I think that is what these challenges are about is not only to have fun, but for us to learn from each other as each work of art progresses. I am thrilled every time you post an update... did I say your work is amazing yet?
johnnymaster
11-01-2006, 03:53 AM
Hey mate, great work! I like your work on the skin, there are many good 2D artists, but such nice skin shading is really special. Now some crits, better to say "notices"...the positions of the lights are always the same, to see very easy on the 3 guys, even the light colors are the same. I think you should use the light to bring out the nature of a character better. Every actor or actress has a light setup that suits him or her best, for example, by Anorld Schwarzenegger they very often use a 3/4 light from the side to show his typical face attributes. Maybe a light from the bottom suits Mirsky better? Just an idea...
I like the overall color on the whole, it's not my imagination from the book, but it looks very nice and harmonious!:thumbsup:
I'm looking forward for updates, good luck!
I like the overall color on the whole, it's not my imagination from the book, but it looks very nice and harmonious!:thumbsup:
I'm looking forward for updates, good luck!
Terro
11-01-2006, 09:39 PM
Good looking progress :) I am glad that you keep contantly expanding your canvas. Each time I take a look at your updates there is something new popping.
PBCastle
11-01-2006, 10:24 PM
lookin nice. keep it going.
mosconariz
11-02-2006, 12:06 AM
The most viewed thread is my friend's! cool! congrats! nice image and as always, NICE CHICK! :drool:
DelBoyW
11-02-2006, 12:42 AM
Angel, Mate...really nice pieces your putting together. :eek: I'm beggining to see what your aiming to acheive coz i thought of doing this... Your choice is a stuff one, but this makes sense and i can see this really works since Eon is a circular object. Colours are cool i wouldn't worry to much,although maybe to similar in contrast to the characters, but i'm sure you'll adjust this when ready.BTW, i can't stop looking at Patricia in the middle, she has beautiful eyes that are hard not to resist, hehe..one word she is HOT!!! :scream:
TheFirstAngel
11-02-2006, 03:47 AM
http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/14/11653/11653_1162439243_large.jpg
i started my 3d parallel to the posterillustration, so this is my 3d concept as well as the lower right corner of the poster and the final scene of the trailer :) hope you like it
i started my 3d parallel to the posterillustration, so this is my 3d concept as well as the lower right corner of the poster and the final scene of the trailer :) hope you like it
TheFirstAngel
11-02-2006, 04:28 AM
http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/14/11653/11653_1162441688_large.jpg
and with a bit of tweaking is the paintbase for my lower right corner :)
and with a bit of tweaking is the paintbase for my lower right corner :)
TheFirstAngel
11-02-2006, 04:54 AM
nwiz: thank you so much my friend, you always find words to flatter me :blush:
Beelow: thanks a lot, had dounts the yellow was a blod choice but the longer i look at it the better it seems to work. next step, then shall be fill the circle with an impact of a h2 o bomb. glad you aproved my layout, so far, you and m@ are my main reference to such things :)
kmest: hahaha thanks mate, glad you like the portraits, thou, all are still in early developement.
Ori: oh my thats a hell of a compliment! if i ever make it to finish this i plan to make a wallpaper and eventually a few posterprints for me and some friends, so just let me know if you still like it when i finished it ^^
Mehmi: haha dig-ness! yep, ya should read the bok. i just learned how jarts look like, that mirsky returns from the future as a god and rita, patrikias granddaughter started her quest to find the gate back to "the way" from gaya in what defines eon for me "eternity". greg bear-ness all the way ^^
Ivy: thats probably the most beautiful compliment i ever gotten from an artist. thank you so much! looking forward t your next update as well, hate lots of fun and thanks for your very very nice words!
Johnnymaster: 100% agree. yes, they were supposed to be painted in the same lightsetup. that may be harmonized but boring. i'll work stongly on the light when i come back to portraitrendering, and give them a more interesting light. thank you very much for the constructive crit, much appreciated.
Terro: thanks a lot mate. yep. since my machine is a snail, i work up piece by piece so i can try and change things fast before i drop em into the canvas, so i can keep up the speed high. its always funny when i see a part on itself and then ceck out how it works with the whole thing. glad you like that surprise too ^^
pb castel: thanks mate!
Moscoloco: hahaha thanks mate, glad you like the bonita. and, yeah, dunno how that happened but its nice to have this great feedback wich helps me pushing this whole thing, thou, i entered all 3 sections :/ silly old me :rolleyes:
Didea: thanks a lot Mate! yeah the base of the composition is a triangle, classical posterlayout with a circular dynamic that mainly is representing the tubeworlds. the characters are just sketchlevel yet, dont worry, the final rendering of them can pretty much change still wich actually is on the plan after some more environment work. hehe, glad you like patricia, ... i was a bit disappointed when the first book finished suddenly, would have loved to continue the journey with her. ^^ she's without question a great character and i tried painting her with much love... ^^
thanks all for the continous encouragements, the great constructive crits that help me keep the overview and let me say it again! ladies and gentlemen! you all rock, keeeeeep it up! :beer::buttrock::beer:
Beelow: thanks a lot, had dounts the yellow was a blod choice but the longer i look at it the better it seems to work. next step, then shall be fill the circle with an impact of a h2 o bomb. glad you aproved my layout, so far, you and m@ are my main reference to such things :)
kmest: hahaha thanks mate, glad you like the portraits, thou, all are still in early developement.
Ori: oh my thats a hell of a compliment! if i ever make it to finish this i plan to make a wallpaper and eventually a few posterprints for me and some friends, so just let me know if you still like it when i finished it ^^
Mehmi: haha dig-ness! yep, ya should read the bok. i just learned how jarts look like, that mirsky returns from the future as a god and rita, patrikias granddaughter started her quest to find the gate back to "the way" from gaya in what defines eon for me "eternity". greg bear-ness all the way ^^
Ivy: thats probably the most beautiful compliment i ever gotten from an artist. thank you so much! looking forward t your next update as well, hate lots of fun and thanks for your very very nice words!
Johnnymaster: 100% agree. yes, they were supposed to be painted in the same lightsetup. that may be harmonized but boring. i'll work stongly on the light when i come back to portraitrendering, and give them a more interesting light. thank you very much for the constructive crit, much appreciated.
Terro: thanks a lot mate. yep. since my machine is a snail, i work up piece by piece so i can try and change things fast before i drop em into the canvas, so i can keep up the speed high. its always funny when i see a part on itself and then ceck out how it works with the whole thing. glad you like that surprise too ^^
pb castel: thanks mate!
Moscoloco: hahaha thanks mate, glad you like the bonita. and, yeah, dunno how that happened but its nice to have this great feedback wich helps me pushing this whole thing, thou, i entered all 3 sections :/ silly old me :rolleyes:
Didea: thanks a lot Mate! yeah the base of the composition is a triangle, classical posterlayout with a circular dynamic that mainly is representing the tubeworlds. the characters are just sketchlevel yet, dont worry, the final rendering of them can pretty much change still wich actually is on the plan after some more environment work. hehe, glad you like patricia, ... i was a bit disappointed when the first book finished suddenly, would have loved to continue the journey with her. ^^ she's without question a great character and i tried painting her with much love... ^^
thanks all for the continous encouragements, the great constructive crits that help me keep the overview and let me say it again! ladies and gentlemen! you all rock, keeeeeep it up! :beer::buttrock::beer:
daWinky
11-02-2006, 06:05 AM
Morning Sacha,
not much to say for me that's not already said...I'm really impressed with each update and to see your work coming together so well:thumbsup: , it's just a pleasure to follow you here:) !
Nice day for you!
-sabrina
not much to say for me that's not already said...I'm really impressed with each update and to see your work coming together so well:thumbsup: , it's just a pleasure to follow you here:) !
Nice day for you!
-sabrina
cg-alx
11-02-2006, 07:52 AM
could you take it down a notch?, this is too good!
http://forums.cgsociety.org/showthread.php?threadid=414582
http://forums.cgsociety.org/showthread.php?threadid=414582
MartinNielsen
11-02-2006, 01:34 PM
Amazing. It feels so pointless to continue my own work after this.
claudiojordao
11-02-2006, 03:18 PM
Hello Sacha, your work is just incredible.
Is your final scene going to be a composition of several scenes like this last one?
Or are you just being a showoff? :) I'm just kiding, of couse.
Keep up with it.
Is your final scene going to be a composition of several scenes like this last one?
Or are you just being a showoff? :) I'm just kiding, of couse.
Keep up with it.
monochromed
11-02-2006, 04:52 PM
Oh jeah, very verrrrrry pretty drawing. Keep it up! Awesome colors!
Good luck!
Good luck!
Ivy00
11-03-2006, 12:35 AM
First of all thanks for the help with my Patricia, I don't know how many would take the time to do what you did to help out :) :) :) :) :) :) I can't get her beautiful like you did, but still working on it .
Now I get to give some advice , be careful of the yellow in the direct center of the image. Any time there is yellow in a work of art the eye is drawn right to it , making it hard for the viewer to focus on the rest of the work.
Now I get to give some advice , be careful of the yellow in the direct center of the image. Any time there is yellow in a work of art the eye is drawn right to it , making it hard for the viewer to focus on the rest of the work.
rawwad
11-03-2006, 11:48 PM
Whoa! Awesome man! I like this your movie poster composition, looks great and show many. Waiting for next update dude:)
malibubob
11-04-2006, 06:51 AM
i have said it befor, but i swear you draw the most beautiful women i have ever seen. great job!
TheFirstAngel
11-04-2006, 01:08 PM
first of all a late happy haloween everyone. http://www.angel3d.ch/content/digital_paintings/dsg/061018_zombieslayer.jpg
been working external for 2 days so no progress yet. getting back to work on the challenge later today :)
Da Winki: thanks a lot Sabrina. well yeah, its much work and now that more or less all elelments are prepared, the painting fun on the piece starts. glad you like the little updates, so lets move ahead :)
CG Alx: rofl, thankees
MartinNielsen: sounds almost as daft as i'd say'd that myself :p come on, gemme a break, yet all i seen from you kicked ass, so keep on rocking!
claudio_jordao: hahaha erm err? huh? lol thanks, keep on rocking too^^
Ivy00: most welcome and thanks a lot too! yup you are right. just wanted to see how that basecolor works since yellow has a very very strong weight i usually use it only on small amounts if thats not the basecolor. since the parts arent rendered there, i'll try to find a good balance. thanks for concerns, its going to be a tricky run on the center so i hope it will work :)
rawwad: thanks bro! next update later today :)
malibubob: thanks man! thanks a lot ^^
now on with the painting fun, lades and gentlemen, lets rock it! :beer::buttrock::wip:
been working external for 2 days so no progress yet. getting back to work on the challenge later today :)
Da Winki: thanks a lot Sabrina. well yeah, its much work and now that more or less all elelments are prepared, the painting fun on the piece starts. glad you like the little updates, so lets move ahead :)
CG Alx: rofl, thankees
MartinNielsen: sounds almost as daft as i'd say'd that myself :p come on, gemme a break, yet all i seen from you kicked ass, so keep on rocking!
claudio_jordao: hahaha erm err? huh? lol thanks, keep on rocking too^^
Ivy00: most welcome and thanks a lot too! yup you are right. just wanted to see how that basecolor works since yellow has a very very strong weight i usually use it only on small amounts if thats not the basecolor. since the parts arent rendered there, i'll try to find a good balance. thanks for concerns, its going to be a tricky run on the center so i hope it will work :)
rawwad: thanks bro! next update later today :)
malibubob: thanks man! thanks a lot ^^
now on with the painting fun, lades and gentlemen, lets rock it! :beer::buttrock::wip:
DrIvErD
11-04-2006, 04:08 PM
what can i say ??? can you give your mind for one day only ??? coz i like it :thumbsup: :)
medunecer
11-04-2006, 06:37 PM
Fantastic! I really like your great style! Good luck!
warpy
11-05-2006, 11:23 AM
anyway 24 pages, whaaaaaaaaaats going on here, some party... lol
TheFirstAngel
11-05-2006, 10:44 PM
http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/14/11653/11653_1162766685_large.jpg
still blocking, started lay the basevalues for the upperparts skydome and in the lower right corner started on atmospherics as well. just a betweenpost, more later tonight :)
still blocking, started lay the basevalues for the upperparts skydome and in the lower right corner started on atmospherics as well. just a betweenpost, more later tonight :)
TheFirstAngel
11-05-2006, 10:52 PM
DrIvErD: thanks mate :) lol, wont work except you wanna do all the crap i have to do daily as well :p
medunecer: thanks :)
Warpy: :( a shame you dunno Jill Valentine... painted that simply as a little revenge on the kids kept ringing all nite long :p well whatever, i go back paintnig, step between is sort of composition work, pronounce optical guidelines and thought that might be interesting for you as well :)
back here later with a bigger update :)
medunecer: thanks :)
Warpy: :( a shame you dunno Jill Valentine... painted that simply as a little revenge on the kids kept ringing all nite long :p well whatever, i go back paintnig, step between is sort of composition work, pronounce optical guidelines and thought that might be interesting for you as well :)
back here later with a bigger update :)
Greatto
11-05-2006, 11:46 PM
Greeting....
you did some changes in composition I see. As always great..you detailed your image, now it look much better. as you said , you will post some thing big soon, will see what you got....
Good Luck...
you did some changes in composition I see. As always great..you detailed your image, now it look much better. as you said , you will post some thing big soon, will see what you got....
Good Luck...
TheFirstAngel
11-06-2006, 04:44 AM
http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/14/11653/11653_1162788273_large.jpg
worked on the sky and added more details, didnt get as far as i intended to but at least some progress is visable :)
oh and i started on the center, goin to finish that draft after a bit of sleep :) of course, all c&c most welcome as usual
worked on the sky and added more details, didnt get as far as i intended to but at least some progress is visable :)
oh and i started on the center, goin to finish that draft after a bit of sleep :) of course, all c&c most welcome as usual
ramy badie
11-06-2006, 05:29 AM
Hey, I have been gone for a few days, and wow, what a transformation. This is coming out really great. Good luck :D
warpy
11-06-2006, 07:14 AM
you are right, i have never heard about her. i am lacking some serious info here, i will do my homework and report back.
tastatura
11-06-2006, 10:09 AM
I like it ! it has that Star wars poster look
AIR
11-06-2006, 01:51 PM
MAn o man.
I feel like the screening of eon is at hand looking at this piece.
I like it very much,,cant wait for more detail..
I feel like the screening of eon is at hand looking at this piece.
I like it very much,,cant wait for more detail..
warpy
11-06-2006, 03:36 PM
I like it ! it has that Star wars poster look
it has an angel look to it.
it has an angel look to it.
Norberg
11-07-2006, 10:43 AM
Hi Sacha,
I saw your entry before I started to read the book, so I imagine Victoria just as you have portrait her. I like the comp and colors you´ve chosen.
Keep it up!
You have come so far allready. I guess you want to make sure you´ll complete this one. Right!
I saw your entry before I started to read the book, so I imagine Victoria just as you have portrait her. I like the comp and colors you´ve chosen.
Keep it up!
You have come so far allready. I guess you want to make sure you´ll complete this one. Right!
TheFirstAngel
11-07-2006, 11:36 PM
http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/14/11653/11653_1162942550_large.jpg
just trew some blox to in the center piece for seeing how it works. more updates later tonight, been busy with modelling and comissions so only a small update. back here later with more :)
just trew some blox to in the center piece for seeing how it works. more updates later tonight, been busy with modelling and comissions so only a small update. back here later with more :)
TheFirstAngel
11-07-2006, 11:46 PM
ramy badie: thanks mate. well since i have to push 3 entries and still gotta work on some comissions, my work is a bit slower than i would like it to progress, thou, its fun to work on it in 3d too :) glad you like the further steps, the yellow still is experimenting but so far looks like it works :)
tastatura: thanks. well hope it doesnt, thou, its a scifi look, and the posterlayout is sorta typical for me.
AIR: thank you so much my friend. well yeah would be a great cg movie if so and if filmed for real 100% a cool movie, thou its a trillogy, it would be definately a great scifi epos.
Norberg: yep i'm working on my limits. 3 entries, a lame machine and just less time than i would like want to have, comissions and other things keeping me from challengefun, so i'm glad blocking seems to take the right direction and rendering is at hand soon :) i always loved what you do and its great to hear i have created for you an inspiration for patricia ^^
thanks all for the nice words. i'll get back to the piece after finishing 2 or 3 small things on scedule as well, somewhen later tonight :) keep it up mates, the fun goes on :) lets rock! :beer::buttrock::wip:
tastatura: thanks. well hope it doesnt, thou, its a scifi look, and the posterlayout is sorta typical for me.
AIR: thank you so much my friend. well yeah would be a great cg movie if so and if filmed for real 100% a cool movie, thou its a trillogy, it would be definately a great scifi epos.
Norberg: yep i'm working on my limits. 3 entries, a lame machine and just less time than i would like want to have, comissions and other things keeping me from challengefun, so i'm glad blocking seems to take the right direction and rendering is at hand soon :) i always loved what you do and its great to hear i have created for you an inspiration for patricia ^^
thanks all for the nice words. i'll get back to the piece after finishing 2 or 3 small things on scedule as well, somewhen later tonight :) keep it up mates, the fun goes on :) lets rock! :beer::buttrock::wip:
nwiz25
11-08-2006, 04:32 AM
i've no words to say dude ...
:cry:
:buttrock:
i think that says it all :p
cheers buddy!
:beer:
:cry:
:buttrock:
i think that says it all :p
cheers buddy!
:beer:
TheFirstAngel
11-08-2006, 08:30 AM
http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/14/11653/11653_1162974610_medium.jpg (http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/14/11653/11653_1162974610_large.jpg)
ok, here's something completely different. i made lots of thoughts on the placement of the letters since it is really pointless to render an image where it anyways will be covered by the title. now please let me know what layout works best for you made quick thumbs from 1-4 :)
ok, here's something completely different. i made lots of thoughts on the placement of the letters since it is really pointless to render an image where it anyways will be covered by the title. now please let me know what layout works best for you made quick thumbs from 1-4 :)
nwiz25
11-08-2006, 08:36 AM
hey dude! ... ummm .. i think ... i'll go with 1 ... even 4 is another thought ....
coz 2 n 3 will divert the attention to the text itself ... once its in the centre .. its like .. it hits u then n there! ... preferably 1 or 4 ... :P
coz 2 n 3 will divert the attention to the text itself ... once its in the centre .. its like .. it hits u then n there! ... preferably 1 or 4 ... :P
Ivy00
11-08-2006, 09:15 AM
hmmm, tough decision for you to make. Ok I had to save your file, throw some EON text on it and move it around to give my best opinion. After doing this and really looking at all the wonderful things going on in your painting here is my opinion.
The text centered above Particia's head I think takes a bit away from Patricia , who is rendered so beautifully I would hate to see focus taken away from that area. There is a lot happening on the right side of the painting so would not put it there. I popped the text over to the top left and thought it fit better in that area. So I was thinking maybe #3 (looks a bit skewed) if it is then, possibly the text skewed so the E starts larger than the N. There is not a lot happening in the top left of your painting, ( the little ships) , but as you move further toward the center all these wonderful things start to happen with it. It is hard to try to place the lettering in such a way that it is noticible , yet does not take away from the art.
Hope that helps a bit.
The text centered above Particia's head I think takes a bit away from Patricia , who is rendered so beautifully I would hate to see focus taken away from that area. There is a lot happening on the right side of the painting so would not put it there. I popped the text over to the top left and thought it fit better in that area. So I was thinking maybe #3 (looks a bit skewed) if it is then, possibly the text skewed so the E starts larger than the N. There is not a lot happening in the top left of your painting, ( the little ships) , but as you move further toward the center all these wonderful things start to happen with it. It is hard to try to place the lettering in such a way that it is noticible , yet does not take away from the art.
Hope that helps a bit.
NH
11-08-2006, 09:56 AM
Well...nothing to say... just waiting for the next slap :cry:
Keep it up bud' :beer: :arteest:
Keep it up bud' :beer: :arteest:
thebest
11-08-2006, 10:24 AM
I agree with whatever these guys said cuz they defintely see something I can`t see lol hehe
just choose I have confident in u :thumbsup: and keep going :bounce:
just choose I have confident in u :thumbsup: and keep going :bounce:
TheFirstAngel
11-08-2006, 06:27 PM
http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/14/11653/11653_1163010438_medium.jpg (http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/14/11653/11653_1163010438_large.jpg)
since this is an important decicion for me (i kept parts rough by purpose before i get to this) i mate thumbs with title and and composition to make this more readable.
now please letme know what works best for you.
1 placed in upper quarter, center simple
2 layed into perspective, right side beam trough o
3 layed into perspective, russin spaceships fly along the letters
4 center layed into perspective spaceships passing through
this is the last step before i start the rendering of the details. kept the layout rough to not be upset to move or redo parts of the sketches. so here is where the serious part starts.
the vote is open :)
since this is an important decicion for me (i kept parts rough by purpose before i get to this) i mate thumbs with title and and composition to make this more readable.
now please letme know what works best for you.
1 placed in upper quarter, center simple
2 layed into perspective, right side beam trough o
3 layed into perspective, russin spaceships fly along the letters
4 center layed into perspective spaceships passing through
this is the last step before i start the rendering of the details. kept the layout rough to not be upset to move or redo parts of the sketches. so here is where the serious part starts.
the vote is open :)
ramy badie
11-08-2006, 06:37 PM
I'm torn between 2 and 4. I think that 3 disrupts the composition and 1 is too basic. 2 is nice, but I think the letters need to be shifted slightly left, and 4 seems to move nicely with the flow of the pic.
mosconariz
11-08-2006, 07:00 PM
Option 2! is the best one in gral composition to my eyes
nwiz25
11-08-2006, 07:19 PM
damn! :eek: me stuck with 2 n 4 as well .... :cry:
its like choosing between snickers and twix :drool:
its like choosing between snickers and twix :drool:
Greatto
11-08-2006, 07:36 PM
Hello.
in my opinion first on is most better than others. Its most simple onr, but this book is severe and the name must be severe. And its looks good in composition point, I mean yellow circle in the center and " O " in Eon word are supplement each other. Sometimes simple things looks more winning.
Main rules of composition based on simple geometrical figure, like triangles boxes circles etc.
And in first one your composition is most approximately to correct composition.
Sample of composition construction...
http://photofile.ru/photo/timlank/2079331/38587186.jpg
and to completion, first one is best...
Good Luck...
P.S. "Ivy00 (http://forums.cgsociety.org/member.php?u=220853)" :The text centered above Particia's head I think takes a bit away from Patricia ,
I agree with this, and if you'll resize it to medium size will be GREAT.
in my opinion first on is most better than others. Its most simple onr, but this book is severe and the name must be severe. And its looks good in composition point, I mean yellow circle in the center and " O " in Eon word are supplement each other. Sometimes simple things looks more winning.
Main rules of composition based on simple geometrical figure, like triangles boxes circles etc.
And in first one your composition is most approximately to correct composition.
Sample of composition construction...
http://photofile.ru/photo/timlank/2079331/38587186.jpg
and to completion, first one is best...
Good Luck...
P.S. "Ivy00 (http://forums.cgsociety.org/member.php?u=220853)" :The text centered above Particia's head I think takes a bit away from Patricia ,
I agree with this, and if you'll resize it to medium size will be GREAT.
walrus
11-08-2006, 07:46 PM
Greatto gave a nice sketch and write-up. Similarly, I like 1 and 4: You've already got an extremely symmetrical composition, so might as well pick a logo that goes with the flow and works with that.
-mike
-mike
Ivy00
11-08-2006, 09:00 PM
Ok did a little more experimenting since you put more of a visual up. Try this with your thumb Sacha and see how it looks. Top center EON , centered under that with smaller letters put Greg Bear.... then on the very bottom center put in letters not as big as the word EON but bigger than the Greg Bear text, ... worlds within worlds. I tried it and it looked more balanced that way and did not take away from the artwork.
so you have:
...........EON...............
............~greg Bear~..................
artwork artwork artwork
artwork artwork artwork
artwork artwork artwork
.....worlds within worlds.......
Sorry about the .... that was the only way the text would post somewhat centered
so you have:
...........EON...............
............~greg Bear~..................
artwork artwork artwork
artwork artwork artwork
artwork artwork artwork
.....worlds within worlds.......
Sorry about the .... that was the only way the text would post somewhat centered
TheFirstAngel
11-08-2006, 10:12 PM
http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/14/11653/11653_1163023927_medium.jpg (http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/14/11653/11653_1163023927_large.jpg)
thanks all for the great support, much appreciated.
since most of you liked 1 or 4, the center titleintegration, i made 4 more versions:
1a - trying Ivy00's alternative version of the typosplit, thouthe tile is bigger that way, the letters over the lower scenes takes a bit much away from the backgroundscenes. thanks anyways for that sugestion Linda :)
1b - Greatto edit 1 based on the doubletri, resized the title sighly to medium, simpleblocks the easiest readable most classical solution
4a - Greatto edit 2, same layout for title4 - tonsa thanks timur ^^ was the hidden triangle so easy to discover? ^^
4b - curved version of 4's 3d title, a version i tried before and thought i could take it up again to ask you what you think.
thanks a lot for your support, please tell me what of those works best for you. the vote goes on :)
thanks all for the great support, much appreciated.
since most of you liked 1 or 4, the center titleintegration, i made 4 more versions:
1a - trying Ivy00's alternative version of the typosplit, thouthe tile is bigger that way, the letters over the lower scenes takes a bit much away from the backgroundscenes. thanks anyways for that sugestion Linda :)
1b - Greatto edit 1 based on the doubletri, resized the title sighly to medium, simpleblocks the easiest readable most classical solution
4a - Greatto edit 2, same layout for title4 - tonsa thanks timur ^^ was the hidden triangle so easy to discover? ^^
4b - curved version of 4's 3d title, a version i tried before and thought i could take it up again to ask you what you think.
thanks a lot for your support, please tell me what of those works best for you. the vote goes on :)
TheFirstAngel
11-08-2006, 10:29 PM
Greatto:thank you so much for your help timur, much much appreciated! bout the final composition, i kept details loose for not paint stuff that will be covered anyways so kept the composition lookse on the skeleton. now that the title crystalizes out, it's going to get to the real thing and after the compositiontweaks, rendering starts :) thanks a lot for your most helpful review.
Neville: made 2 versions of 4, and tweaked 1 in proportions, wich is your choice nw? :)
Ivy00 thanks a lot! yep thae cutting was one of my concerns too but thats why i worked on the thumbs, to get the placement fixed so i can drag the parts to the new placement and start the real painting :) thank you so much for your sugestion, tried to place the "worlds within worlds in all thinkable heights but didnt work without covering much of the lower scenes, so i think i'll stick with variations of 1 or 4. what does your eye tell you?
bouboul: thanks you so much mate :)
Tony: lol, yeah, the compositionskeleton was a bit funny to post as such it is. hope the thumbs i made now were more readable :p
Ramy: thanks mate. form the versios of 4, which one would you choose?
mosco: thanks mate.yeah found 2 cool too, but since it is a symetrical composition (iconic sort of compositions help the epic feel) i think i'll stick with simpletext centered or a 3d title. what was your choice?
Walrus: agree mike, thanks a lot for the review. made a variatoin of 4 and resized 1 into proportion. whats your choice?
ok, almost there, please letme kow which titlestyile you like most :) thanks for your support all ^^ you all rock - keep it up!!!:buttrock::beer::scream:
cheers
Neville: made 2 versions of 4, and tweaked 1 in proportions, wich is your choice nw? :)
Ivy00 thanks a lot! yep thae cutting was one of my concerns too but thats why i worked on the thumbs, to get the placement fixed so i can drag the parts to the new placement and start the real painting :) thank you so much for your sugestion, tried to place the "worlds within worlds in all thinkable heights but didnt work without covering much of the lower scenes, so i think i'll stick with variations of 1 or 4. what does your eye tell you?
bouboul: thanks you so much mate :)
Tony: lol, yeah, the compositionskeleton was a bit funny to post as such it is. hope the thumbs i made now were more readable :p
Ramy: thanks mate. form the versios of 4, which one would you choose?
mosco: thanks mate.yeah found 2 cool too, but since it is a symetrical composition (iconic sort of compositions help the epic feel) i think i'll stick with simpletext centered or a 3d title. what was your choice?
Walrus: agree mike, thanks a lot for the review. made a variatoin of 4 and resized 1 into proportion. whats your choice?
ok, almost there, please letme kow which titlestyile you like most :) thanks for your support all ^^ you all rock - keep it up!!!:buttrock::beer::scream:
cheers
Greatto
11-08-2006, 10:41 PM
Great...
wonderful, 1b and 1a... I think the sentence "Worlds within worlds" a bit down. V
4a. mm. I dont know how it will looks. I ment 3d words... because "O" in this composition losing it round figure and turns to oval, that deforming this composition. And now round window is losing supplement and balance with "O".
haha I found triangels :) did I win something?
wonderful, 1b and 1a... I think the sentence "Worlds within worlds" a bit down. V
4a. mm. I dont know how it will looks. I ment 3d words... because "O" in this composition losing it round figure and turns to oval, that deforming this composition. And now round window is losing supplement and balance with "O".
haha I found triangels :) did I win something?
Greatto
11-08-2006, 10:45 PM
thanks a lot for your most helpful review.
cheers
I feel my sefl useful thanks :)
cheers
I feel my sefl useful thanks :)
OKMER
11-08-2006, 11:04 PM
WHooooaaaa, Sacha!!!
I couldn't go on with the contest for a while because of a lot of commisions as christmas is coming and so I missed some steps here.
But holy s**t this is so good, really love it!!
personally i like 1b as the text seems a bit less dominating as 1a and so it leaves space for the design to breathe a bit.
it seems well clean and fonctionel.
But in some kind a way i like 4a also, seems to bring in some more depth in the overall view of the image.
Whooo, sorry how my english s**ks once we've passed midnight,ha,ha!!!
Anyway, thumbs up man!!!Great work!!
I couldn't go on with the contest for a while because of a lot of commisions as christmas is coming and so I missed some steps here.
But holy s**t this is so good, really love it!!
personally i like 1b as the text seems a bit less dominating as 1a and so it leaves space for the design to breathe a bit.
it seems well clean and fonctionel.
But in some kind a way i like 4a also, seems to bring in some more depth in the overall view of the image.
Whooo, sorry how my english s**ks once we've passed midnight,ha,ha!!!
Anyway, thumbs up man!!!Great work!!
Ivy00
11-08-2006, 11:53 PM
not sure if I can post an image with just a talk membership, plan on buying full membership, but going to ask for it for Christmas present. I love this site and feel it needs any support I can give it.
ok here goes.... here is what I did, I know you will paint in or render your own text so I just slapped some text in using the text tool in PS to get a feel for how it will look with the artwork.
The worlds within worlds will fit on the very bottom if you do not make it too big in the kind of blank foreground spot underneath the standing Patricia.
The O in EON should , line up with the circle you have in the middle as Greatto suggests.
Here goes let me see if this image works
http://www.smithsarts.com/images/sachaTEXT.jpg
ok here goes.... here is what I did, I know you will paint in or render your own text so I just slapped some text in using the text tool in PS to get a feel for how it will look with the artwork.
The worlds within worlds will fit on the very bottom if you do not make it too big in the kind of blank foreground spot underneath the standing Patricia.
The O in EON should , line up with the circle you have in the middle as Greatto suggests.
Here goes let me see if this image works
http://www.smithsarts.com/images/sachaTEXT.jpg
walrus
11-08-2006, 11:53 PM
You should take the idea of adding the author's name even further: Make 'Eon' small and put GREG BEAR large and on the top. After all, Greg Bear is one of the judges, you might as well curry favor in any way you can! :)
That being said, I like 4B best. Both 4A and 4B echo the perspective you already have going in the scene. 4B has the added bonus of echoing the curve of the cirvle in the center of your piece.
-mike
That being said, I like 4B best. Both 4A and 4B echo the perspective you already have going in the scene. 4B has the added bonus of echoing the curve of the cirvle in the center of your piece.
-mike
thebest
11-09-2006, 08:23 AM
oh yeah now is better :bounce: lol
I like the forth one
I like the forth one
nwiz25
11-09-2006, 10:45 AM
lovely dude! me in for '4b' :bounce: really cool indeed!
( like that 3d look ..as if emerging toward us ) :p
plus in agreement with Walrus..he's right .. do make ' Greg Bear ' LARGE! :scream::)
man o man! me cant wait to c this in full form! :eek:
good luck mate! :thumbsup:
( like that 3d look ..as if emerging toward us ) :p
plus in agreement with Walrus..he's right .. do make ' Greg Bear ' LARGE! :scream::)
man o man! me cant wait to c this in full form! :eek:
good luck mate! :thumbsup:
Greatto
11-09-2006, 11:21 AM
http://www.smithsarts.com/images/sachaTEXT.jpg
This one look good, but I think proportion is disbalanced.. First "EON" must be much larger. maybe twice and "w.. within w.." larger ...
I agree with walrus in this "GREG BEAR large and on the top." Because it alaws easy to read, through habit first you look at the top to find the author name, then lower comes book name...
This one look good, but I think proportion is disbalanced.. First "EON" must be much larger. maybe twice and "w.. within w.." larger ...
I agree with walrus in this "GREG BEAR large and on the top." Because it alaws easy to read, through habit first you look at the top to find the author name, then lower comes book name...
TheFirstAngel
11-09-2006, 01:28 PM
thanks all for the great reply's.
i thougth when i made the sketches doing something with greg's name with eon like "Bram Stoker's Dracula" "Marry Shelley's Frankenstein".
unsure, dunno arrrrgh :argh: :banghead: so i'll try what works on some test. only thing thats sure i need to tweak the layout to give it some headspace.
i think i'll stick with 4b since that is basically integrating well with the piece itself and keeps the all flow.
Special thanks to Walrus, Greatto and Ivy00, you were a huge help!
nwiz25, thebest tonsa thanks too mates.
i thougth when i made the sketches doing something with greg's name with eon like "Bram Stoker's Dracula" "Marry Shelley's Frankenstein".
unsure, dunno arrrrgh :argh: :banghead: so i'll try what works on some test. only thing thats sure i need to tweak the layout to give it some headspace.
i think i'll stick with 4b since that is basically integrating well with the piece itself and keeps the all flow.
Special thanks to Walrus, Greatto and Ivy00, you were a huge help!
nwiz25, thebest tonsa thanks too mates.
bearfoot
11-09-2006, 01:51 PM
hey sacha
honestly i am not keen on the designs you have right regarding the typesetting..
they seem to me to be a bit distracting and competitive within the image..
i would like to see the whole image moved up and the txt at the bottom.
but i trust you :-)
great work
honestly i am not keen on the designs you have right regarding the typesetting..
they seem to me to be a bit distracting and competitive within the image..
i would like to see the whole image moved up and the txt at the bottom.
but i trust you :-)
great work
TheFirstAngel
11-10-2006, 08:10 AM
http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/14/11653/11653_1163146253_large.jpg
ok got rid of my bad mood and here's a draft with the new layout to see how it works with the title. After 4 nights with less than 2 hours of sleep each - i took an evening off to catch up some. played around with the new set for a few mins to see how the layout works and now - would like to hear what you think. Thanks for c&c :)
ok got rid of my bad mood and here's a draft with the new layout to see how it works with the title. After 4 nights with less than 2 hours of sleep each - i took an evening off to catch up some. played around with the new set for a few mins to see how the layout works and now - would like to hear what you think. Thanks for c&c :)
TheFirstAngel
11-10-2006, 08:24 AM
neil: thanks mate. well i tried lower placements too, original idea was to place it over the yellow circle. didnt work that well so i tried headerplacements.
Ivy00: thank you so much again for your paintover. thou my test was simple. printed it in booksize layed it to my table and checked if i would pick it up. as a book or dvd. if that works, the work was ok. with letters that small, it looses too much of the coverart characteristics, tho, i will probably make a more elegant logo since theese blocks are just a draft. :)
Ivy00: thank you so much again for your paintover. thou my test was simple. printed it in booksize layed it to my table and checked if i would pick it up. as a book or dvd. if that works, the work was ok. with letters that small, it looses too much of the coverart characteristics, tho, i will probably make a more elegant logo since theese blocks are just a draft. :)
Nomad
11-10-2006, 10:10 AM
Great progress :thumbsup:
And yes a fully designed logo will be cool here. IMO I will make it 20% smaller than what you have now. It don`t need to be so big, the image have to attract the viewer and after he/she read the logo.
And yes a fully designed logo will be cool here. IMO I will make it 20% smaller than what you have now. It don`t need to be so big, the image have to attract the viewer and after he/she read the logo.
Ivy00
11-10-2006, 11:10 AM
I agree with Nomad that it should be a bit smaller. I like the curve on it, matches the circle further down, making the logo look more like it belongs. Your work still amazes me no matter how many times I look at it.
Greatto
11-10-2006, 06:56 PM
http://photofile.ru/photo/timlank/2079331/large/38709667.jpg
NO COMMENTS... Great :)
NO COMMENTS... Great :)
daWinky
11-10-2006, 07:32 PM
Hey Sacha,
not much to add here beside of the fact that I really love the last update:) , the logo is just of the right size for my taste, it give the whole scene some continuity and prevent it from looking to overloaded with details...Your doing just an amazing job here, hope you find some time for relaxing at the weekend...and a little sleep:D !
Have a nice weekend!
-sabrina
not much to add here beside of the fact that I really love the last update:) , the logo is just of the right size for my taste, it give the whole scene some continuity and prevent it from looking to overloaded with details...Your doing just an amazing job here, hope you find some time for relaxing at the weekend...and a little sleep:D !
Have a nice weekend!
-sabrina
warpy
11-11-2006, 06:43 AM
come on, finish it already :P.. that triangle/circles.. you got the midas touch sash
SONIC-X
11-11-2006, 07:41 AM
Your illustration is looking realy great.
beelow
11-11-2006, 07:00 PM
It is time to tighten your illustration!:thumbsup:
TheFirstAngel
11-12-2006, 08:33 PM
Nomad: thanks mate. made it 5% smaller to match the diagonals of the header and he main curvature of the all over dynamics. probably later tonight will post an update but first gotta finish unwrap patricia of my 3dmodel entry (http://forums.cgsociety.org/showthread.php?t=424154&page=6&pp=10) ^^ here's a rough preview of what i made there on her :) - still early wip but pushing this the 3dscene plus the trailer is quiet a bit of work :p
http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/15/12368/12368_1163314952_large.jpg
Ivy00: thank you so much! well i actually am happy with the paintbase, now start rendering on the atually weak point2 - sixth chamber in the lower left corners composition lacks of depht for me, probably going to adjust the values and if nothing works repaint most of that section. glad you like my work here. thank you so much for your encouragements and thoughts, it helps me to get through and pushing myself over my limits :)
Greatto: thanks a lot mate :) yup you found my lines again ^^ hahaha how you always make that ^^ thanks for the review, yup built on that grid i actually thought that solution might work best for a good integration of the text to the piece.
daWinky: thank you so much! lol as for sleep, i continuosly tell myself to get some :p its rushtime again, challenges here always do that to me but its great. actually the result of such an intense time is always a nice piece for my portfolio plus a a huge learning process, each step to go. therefor, i appreciate this very very uch, i think my learn and expiriencecurve since i joined my first challenge made a nice jump and i am thankful for that :)
warpy: ahahaha lol, yeah i press the ctrl & "finish-my-piece-the-way-it-bugs-my-synapses"- button when i should find it on my keyboard ^^ i wonder why none of the hardwaresupliers ever thopught of that key :p
SoniX: thanks mate! damn wish i had your hardsurface modeling skills, your is so kickass fast and detailed, one easily could get lost in the tons of details for hours ^^ thou, i work on mine, its one of the mainreasons i joined 3d as well, i went around it long after working for industrialdesign 3d for cam production has taken me much of the fun i had in 3d, i thought its time to use the knowledge for a more fun reaproach on it :)
beelow: thanks a lot bro. yup i know. but as you might know yourself, a solid base is always important and i wanted to be sure things work before i render tons of details and then end up by "can i tweak that now" "oh no i'll loos all that details i spent hours of painting on" so i kept things loose til i nailed the composition. almost there, and ready to go :)
http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/15/12368/12368_1163314952_large.jpg
Ivy00: thank you so much! well i actually am happy with the paintbase, now start rendering on the atually weak point2 - sixth chamber in the lower left corners composition lacks of depht for me, probably going to adjust the values and if nothing works repaint most of that section. glad you like my work here. thank you so much for your encouragements and thoughts, it helps me to get through and pushing myself over my limits :)
Greatto: thanks a lot mate :) yup you found my lines again ^^ hahaha how you always make that ^^ thanks for the review, yup built on that grid i actually thought that solution might work best for a good integration of the text to the piece.
daWinky: thank you so much! lol as for sleep, i continuosly tell myself to get some :p its rushtime again, challenges here always do that to me but its great. actually the result of such an intense time is always a nice piece for my portfolio plus a a huge learning process, each step to go. therefor, i appreciate this very very uch, i think my learn and expiriencecurve since i joined my first challenge made a nice jump and i am thankful for that :)
warpy: ahahaha lol, yeah i press the ctrl & "finish-my-piece-the-way-it-bugs-my-synapses"- button when i should find it on my keyboard ^^ i wonder why none of the hardwaresupliers ever thopught of that key :p
SoniX: thanks mate! damn wish i had your hardsurface modeling skills, your is so kickass fast and detailed, one easily could get lost in the tons of details for hours ^^ thou, i work on mine, its one of the mainreasons i joined 3d as well, i went around it long after working for industrialdesign 3d for cam production has taken me much of the fun i had in 3d, i thought its time to use the knowledge for a more fun reaproach on it :)
beelow: thanks a lot bro. yup i know. but as you might know yourself, a solid base is always important and i wanted to be sure things work before i render tons of details and then end up by "can i tweak that now" "oh no i'll loos all that details i spent hours of painting on" so i kept things loose til i nailed the composition. almost there, and ready to go :)
Slav
11-12-2006, 08:55 PM
going the 3d route? i want to see some mesh details! :D
TheFirstAngel
11-12-2006, 09:18 PM
slav: lol, not with this one, just in my 3d ^^ paintings staiys 100% painted, and my 3d is based on the conceptwork here :)
Slav
11-12-2006, 10:02 PM
i still say post some details! :)
Ivy00
11-13-2006, 01:06 AM
Ivy00: thank you so much! well i actually am happy with the paintbase, now start rendering on the atually weak point2 - sixth chamber in the lower left corners composition lacks of depht for me, probably going to adjust the values and if nothing works repaint most of that section. glad you like my work here. thank you so much for your encouragements and thoughts, it helps me to get through and pushing myself over my limits
ha ha, After your paintover and advice on my Patricia (who is improving little by little or should I say layer by layer), I might just have to start the official Sacha fan club.
ha ha, After your paintover and advice on my Patricia (who is improving little by little or should I say layer by layer), I might just have to start the official Sacha fan club.
gardogg
11-13-2006, 04:46 AM
Looking very nice. I don't know how you do this stuff... just drawing from your imagination with no reference. Amazing.
Greatto
11-13-2006, 07:29 AM
Looking very nice. I don't know how you do this stuff... just drawing from your imagination with no reference. Amazing.
Not just Amazing, Professionaly.His basicly difference that his primordial direct was chosen in right course. you haven't use the reference in entry-level, because in this level reference will be barrier to your imagination develop ,with out reference it will progress your expirience much, this progress will affect in the future. but some time you have to use the preference, when you reach the limits, to unleash your some new ideas...
p.s. sorry for little spam :)
Not just Amazing, Professionaly.His basicly difference that his primordial direct was chosen in right course. you haven't use the reference in entry-level, because in this level reference will be barrier to your imagination develop ,with out reference it will progress your expirience much, this progress will affect in the future. but some time you have to use the preference, when you reach the limits, to unleash your some new ideas...
p.s. sorry for little spam :)
tastatura
11-13-2006, 08:59 PM
very nice work here man, the illustration is going in very nice direction, and as more time is invested in it it will just get better and better til lthe dead line comes to end :)
your battleing on 3 fronts here man, and your very good at it patricia looks sexy :) and techincly nice :P keep up man waiting for updates :thumbsup:
your battleing on 3 fronts here man, and your very good at it patricia looks sexy :) and techincly nice :P keep up man waiting for updates :thumbsup:
TheFirstAngel
11-14-2006, 02:00 AM
http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/14/11653/11653_1163469634_large.jpg
ok, now that i have most elements where i want em to, i started blocking in the upper left part working on values in the left lower part, started rendering laniers and mirkys portraits and thought i make a little between post. whats new: upper left corner, little bit of thistledowns architecture, buildings on wires. next to lanier, a few buildings, not decieded yet on the city.
value update on the sixth chamber, started bringing out the details of the fog such as the energy coupling converter controlstation towards the image center, the elevator cranes. i am quiet pleased with the compositionupdate in that section, now tons of details have to be painted.
posted a larger preview this time so you can see where i put in work more clearly. hope you like the little post - all c&c most welcome :)
ok, now that i have most elements where i want em to, i started blocking in the upper left part working on values in the left lower part, started rendering laniers and mirkys portraits and thought i make a little between post. whats new: upper left corner, little bit of thistledowns architecture, buildings on wires. next to lanier, a few buildings, not decieded yet on the city.
value update on the sixth chamber, started bringing out the details of the fog such as the energy coupling converter controlstation towards the image center, the elevator cranes. i am quiet pleased with the compositionupdate in that section, now tons of details have to be painted.
posted a larger preview this time so you can see where i put in work more clearly. hope you like the little post - all c&c most welcome :)
ramy badie
11-14-2006, 02:09 AM
Great update, I love how the characters are coming along. Awesome work. Good luck :thumbsup:
TheFirstAngel
11-14-2006, 02:25 AM
Ivy00: hahaha please don't i'd rather prefer having good friends than fans :p as for the overpaint, that just cuz its much easier for me to do so than to eplain things by words only. glad that helped ad looking forward to see your next steps :)
gardogg: thanks a lot gary. well thias fairly simple. in most cases, i draw things i had drawn many times before, so i can simply draw form imagination and memories. 3d helps tons to be forced to study what has wich direction and material properties and... well i said it arlier, i am far from working perfect, if something bugs me and i cant get it right i get a ref to check whats off as well when i gotta fix something. I just think to start from a photo is wrong cuz then you will be stuck to your ref instead of being able to develop freely.
Greatto: tonsa thanks for those words, i dont think i'd been able to write something like that even if i'd intended to :blush: well, i feel humbled. basically, there's always a classic way to approach something. in my own case, i jump very often between steps, i like improvisaton, letting things loose very often cuz there's shapes or things i can make out just on the fly. thats so far not the pro way to do so, under timepressure, its essential to have a very clear planing process, that allows you using time as good as possible while i am just having fun here to let the piece "grow". i may work as conceptartist and odeller, but those you mean with pro's i think are of a leage i still look up to. still, much appreciated :) thank you so much.
tastatura: lol yeah, 3 entries was the most stupid thing i decieded yet being in a challenge. i can handle it more or less on ccost of sleep, and keep pushing things on my limits. wich of course is nor smart nor really eccicient, but i have much fun in all 3 sections and trough my 3d entry i also am forced to clarify style, functionionality and crystalclear visualizing of my projects components and characters wich speeds up painting as well :) glad you like my version of patricia, i went trough 2 books with her (and her granddaughter) and also with lanier mirsky and olmy, so its nice to bring out what they left on me while i was on the journey with them. well, hope you like the little update, now on with the fun :)
Ramy: tonsa thanks mate! glad you like the update on them :)
Best of luck to you all, have fun and enjoy the ride ^^ keep on rocking!
gardogg: thanks a lot gary. well thias fairly simple. in most cases, i draw things i had drawn many times before, so i can simply draw form imagination and memories. 3d helps tons to be forced to study what has wich direction and material properties and... well i said it arlier, i am far from working perfect, if something bugs me and i cant get it right i get a ref to check whats off as well when i gotta fix something. I just think to start from a photo is wrong cuz then you will be stuck to your ref instead of being able to develop freely.
Greatto: tonsa thanks for those words, i dont think i'd been able to write something like that even if i'd intended to :blush: well, i feel humbled. basically, there's always a classic way to approach something. in my own case, i jump very often between steps, i like improvisaton, letting things loose very often cuz there's shapes or things i can make out just on the fly. thats so far not the pro way to do so, under timepressure, its essential to have a very clear planing process, that allows you using time as good as possible while i am just having fun here to let the piece "grow". i may work as conceptartist and odeller, but those you mean with pro's i think are of a leage i still look up to. still, much appreciated :) thank you so much.
tastatura: lol yeah, 3 entries was the most stupid thing i decieded yet being in a challenge. i can handle it more or less on ccost of sleep, and keep pushing things on my limits. wich of course is nor smart nor really eccicient, but i have much fun in all 3 sections and trough my 3d entry i also am forced to clarify style, functionionality and crystalclear visualizing of my projects components and characters wich speeds up painting as well :) glad you like my version of patricia, i went trough 2 books with her (and her granddaughter) and also with lanier mirsky and olmy, so its nice to bring out what they left on me while i was on the journey with them. well, hope you like the little update, now on with the fun :)
Ramy: tonsa thanks mate! glad you like the update on them :)
Best of luck to you all, have fun and enjoy the ride ^^ keep on rocking!
TheFirstAngel
11-14-2006, 05:06 AM
http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/14/11653/11653_1163480791_large.jpg
just a screenshot of the centerscene - death. Actualy wanted to bring in a few emotiontions and feelings i had when i pictured ppl facing the end of all they know, so gave it kind of a religious touch. A mother, covering her child, a business man "forgive me father for i have sinned" - a hummer crashing with a mercedes - and up in the sky wing like rays around the mushroomcloud like spread wings - hidden.
"Nothing is dearer than life as you shall remember when the angel of death on the brink of a final strike is upon you." - passage out of my voiceover from my trailer ^^
Ok, thats the basic plan when painting the center. I might add more symbolic elements but mainblocking in center done now as well :)
just a screenshot of the centerscene - death. Actualy wanted to bring in a few emotiontions and feelings i had when i pictured ppl facing the end of all they know, so gave it kind of a religious touch. A mother, covering her child, a business man "forgive me father for i have sinned" - a hummer crashing with a mercedes - and up in the sky wing like rays around the mushroomcloud like spread wings - hidden.
"Nothing is dearer than life as you shall remember when the angel of death on the brink of a final strike is upon you." - passage out of my voiceover from my trailer ^^
Ok, thats the basic plan when painting the center. I might add more symbolic elements but mainblocking in center done now as well :)
TheFirstAngel
11-14-2006, 06:59 AM
http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/14/11653/11653_1163487577_large.jpg
ok, olmy has changed much, and that has a reason. he probably was the character for me to read. there's much politics, always when his parts of the journey run, but in "eternity" my picture of him has changed much. instead of the slick political activist, i started seing him different. ex-cop, sharpminded ex-soldier, still taking more risk than its smart, a true ruffneck an straight forward. so i gave him eaglelike features, sharp, bowed nose, more weathered and plan giving him grey sides on his hair. as for lanier, i tried make him attractive, since all girls get a crush on him on the stone. so i tried making him a tired looking but attractive man around 35, and as for mirsky, he's at the end a cery curious man, reasonable, so i tried to make him less agressive, smarter, layed weight on an intelligent look. step 1 on portrait refinements done, more refinements after sleep. :) all c&c most welcome, as usual.
ok, olmy has changed much, and that has a reason. he probably was the character for me to read. there's much politics, always when his parts of the journey run, but in "eternity" my picture of him has changed much. instead of the slick political activist, i started seing him different. ex-cop, sharpminded ex-soldier, still taking more risk than its smart, a true ruffneck an straight forward. so i gave him eaglelike features, sharp, bowed nose, more weathered and plan giving him grey sides on his hair. as for lanier, i tried make him attractive, since all girls get a crush on him on the stone. so i tried making him a tired looking but attractive man around 35, and as for mirsky, he's at the end a cery curious man, reasonable, so i tried to make him less agressive, smarter, layed weight on an intelligent look. step 1 on portrait refinements done, more refinements after sleep. :) all c&c most welcome, as usual.
makaron
11-14-2006, 07:33 AM
I like this so far :) not so found how the text Eon titel, is shaped tho...'otherwise is the gang really taking shape.. really enjoy the colorchoise... the Man in the middle make me corious about what he is doing, like the "golden ball" ... make the eye really wanna see the whole picture..
goody so fare Sacha :bounce:
goody so fare Sacha :bounce:
TheFirstAngel
11-14-2006, 07:09 PM
thanks mona. that was the mainreason for putting it there, i think the drama of it is so far a good center :) the typo is just a draft, so dont worry bout that.
:) - wheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee my german version of the book has arrived today :) :bounce:
:) - wheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee my german version of the book has arrived today :) :bounce:
nwiz25
11-14-2006, 07:25 PM
awesome update Sacha! :p :eek: :bounce: details are showing now ... :eek:
woweee! :buttrock:
woweee! :buttrock:
naetronic
11-14-2006, 10:11 PM
Wow Angel I love this! Patricia is looking great as well as the rest, keep it up:)
Ivy00
11-15-2006, 08:55 AM
Love the little scene in the middle.. and of course I won't start a fan club, ha ha
flaeticia
11-15-2006, 09:25 AM
as always :)
very nice and very stylished !
gogogo sacha :)
nothing more to say !
thats perfect :o
;);)
very nice and very stylished !
gogogo sacha :)
nothing more to say !
thats perfect :o
;);)
coCoKNIght
11-15-2006, 04:37 PM
wow! that's gonna be the official movie poster for sure :) you rock sacha! :buttrock:
Neubius
11-15-2006, 04:47 PM
dam straight. excellent stuff man!
Greatto
11-16-2006, 09:28 PM
Hello Friend...
Great progress with the faces..
Building getting much better too.
But i this the main round window in center must be a bit blured, I ment inside in this window, because the face of the human in right side, is to detailed or to bright and contras, and it becomes upper than the patricia. but i think you will fix it later,
Thanks you for the gian help, that you do for me....
Great progress with the faces..
Building getting much better too.
But i this the main round window in center must be a bit blured, I ment inside in this window, because the face of the human in right side, is to detailed or to bright and contras, and it becomes upper than the patricia. but i think you will fix it later,
Thanks you for the gian help, that you do for me....
TheFirstAngel
11-16-2006, 11:21 PM
Hello Friend...
Great progress with the faces..
Building getting much better too.
But i this the main round window in center must be a bit blured, I ment inside in this window, because the face of the human in right side, is to detailed or to bright and contras, and it becomes upper than the patricia. but i think you will fix it later,
Thanks you for the gian help, that you do for me....
np :) and yes i have valueadjusting on my plan now that you know my overlay technique, you might see why i build up the full value ranges in it first before i add volumetrics :) tho, i might continue the tonedown, as you seen i already starte on working in blueish hues :)
NathanLB: thanks mate :)
Ivy00: lol now i calm, the thought of screaming teenagers in front of my doorstep gave me chills ;)
flaeticia: Merci :) glad you like it!
coCoKNIght: lol, i wish ^^ merci :)
Neubius: thanks bro
i'll be back with an update later tonight then :) thanks for the nice feedbackes :) best of luck to you all, have fun and keep on rocking!
Great progress with the faces..
Building getting much better too.
But i this the main round window in center must be a bit blured, I ment inside in this window, because the face of the human in right side, is to detailed or to bright and contras, and it becomes upper than the patricia. but i think you will fix it later,
Thanks you for the gian help, that you do for me....
np :) and yes i have valueadjusting on my plan now that you know my overlay technique, you might see why i build up the full value ranges in it first before i add volumetrics :) tho, i might continue the tonedown, as you seen i already starte on working in blueish hues :)
NathanLB: thanks mate :)
Ivy00: lol now i calm, the thought of screaming teenagers in front of my doorstep gave me chills ;)
flaeticia: Merci :) glad you like it!
coCoKNIght: lol, i wish ^^ merci :)
Neubius: thanks bro
i'll be back with an update later tonight then :) thanks for the nice feedbackes :) best of luck to you all, have fun and keep on rocking!
mdavid
11-16-2006, 11:47 PM
I've been dropping by your thread quite a bit, checking its progress but have never left any comments because it was just so good I couldn't recommend anything. So I'll just do a bit of cheering. This work is amazingly good. Good luck
chingwa
11-17-2006, 05:28 AM
Whoooaaaaa this is looking great! Love the movie poster feel to this. I can't wait to see all the detail fleshed out in this composition.
TheFirstAngel
11-17-2006, 05:12 PM
mdavid: thank you so much dave. well i usually rough out stuff on the fly, so detailing now a bigger step that takes a few extrahours. glad you like my base :) thanks for your encouragement, much appreciated! best of luck to you too, keep on rocking!
chingwa: thanks a lot mate :) working on the details right now :) glad you like what i do :)
now for something extra again:
i been asked for by many is how i build up my skintones. here's a quick girl sketch i made :) well i could have blended smover and worked it out more but its basically just about keep up a good speed and get values and skintones in place :)
here's the little sketch,
http://www.angel3d.ch/content/tutorials/clips/girlpaint_sml.jpg
and the clip, rightclick save as here (http://www.angel3d.ch/content/tutorials/clips/girlpaint_divx.rar)
freestyle sketchingsession without refs, ps on a wacom cintiq 21ux
enjoy
back here later with an update - til then have fun and keep on rocking!
chingwa: thanks a lot mate :) working on the details right now :) glad you like what i do :)
now for something extra again:
i been asked for by many is how i build up my skintones. here's a quick girl sketch i made :) well i could have blended smover and worked it out more but its basically just about keep up a good speed and get values and skintones in place :)
here's the little sketch,
http://www.angel3d.ch/content/tutorials/clips/girlpaint_sml.jpg
and the clip, rightclick save as here (http://www.angel3d.ch/content/tutorials/clips/girlpaint_divx.rar)
freestyle sketchingsession without refs, ps on a wacom cintiq 21ux
enjoy
back here later with an update - til then have fun and keep on rocking!
warpy
11-17-2006, 05:41 PM
that tutorial is mine, alll mine dont you touch it!! you hear.
here is the proof : "1st-angel: you asked for that"
here is the proof : "1st-angel: you asked for that"
Greatto
11-18-2006, 09:49 AM
that tutorial is mine, alll mine dont you touch it!! you hear.
here is the proof : "1st-angel: you asked for that"
hahaha , disutility domain in you :)
BTW. Great tutorial, :)
here is the proof : "1st-angel: you asked for that"
hahaha , disutility domain in you :)
BTW. Great tutorial, :)
SONIC-X
11-18-2006, 11:25 AM
Wow! I love the tutorial.Oviously even with the tutorial it will take me lots of practice to do that.
brrrhmmm
11-18-2006, 01:01 PM
Hey Sacha,Cool artwork.You have merged several chamber scenes to the poster.Who is the the person standing in front of the portal?
Ivy00
11-20-2006, 12:28 AM
As I have watched this work progress , I have often said to myself, "I wish I could watch over his shoulder as he works"... and then you post that excellent tutorial. (took me 3 hrs to download with my lousy connection, ha ha) It helped a lot of things click for me. As you can probably tell by my entry here,(and lack of portfolio) I am not an experienced digital artist, my Eon entry is the first serious thing I have attempted to do digitally and only entered because I knew it would make me push myself and work and most of all learn. I am a potter and sculptor and watching the tutorial you posted is so similair to sculpting , it really helped me a lot. So , I am going to do a bunch of face studies and commit myself to learning :) Thank you Sacha, very few artists are willing to share and you are so generous with your skill and knowledge I want to make sure you know how much it is appreciated.
TheFirstAngel
11-20-2006, 12:56 AM
http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/14/11653/11653_1163984186_large.jpg
left side: added tons and tons of details i am rendering right now. added a trainstation in the sixth chamber right behind the ramp of the road and boosted the valuefalloff.
right side, just some sketched in not yet rendered elements,like lakesm more buildings, pushed up the cliff line i flipped the spaceship with its tail to the viewer to poit INTO the pieceand put it into the foreground.
header set the perspective right of the bowstructure and set right the main values - leftside started light some of the buildings, just a draft version.
knocked the portraits more out from their surroundings also let the stones emitting light interact with the hair, sketchy yet but i think the things look better if hey interact with each other.
well hope you like the update, more work on the detailing as soon there's some visable progress. :)
left side: added tons and tons of details i am rendering right now. added a trainstation in the sixth chamber right behind the ramp of the road and boosted the valuefalloff.
right side, just some sketched in not yet rendered elements,like lakesm more buildings, pushed up the cliff line i flipped the spaceship with its tail to the viewer to poit INTO the pieceand put it into the foreground.
header set the perspective right of the bowstructure and set right the main values - leftside started light some of the buildings, just a draft version.
knocked the portraits more out from their surroundings also let the stones emitting light interact with the hair, sketchy yet but i think the things look better if hey interact with each other.
well hope you like the update, more work on the detailing as soon there's some visable progress. :)
TheFirstAngel
11-20-2006, 01:21 AM
warpy: rofl glad i have my "bigest fan at last" now too :p very scary
Greatto: glad you liked the little tut i made :)by far not where it should be but at least showing the methods :)
brrrhmmm: yes, thats the main focus on the environments. i took myself a little freedom out and flipped the circleshaped display of the library to a vertiical disply to have a nice center.and of course its patricia standing in front of it, wathcing "death"
Ivy00: you are very welcome :) well i am not worried to share a few things i know and show some various ways to approach things when i get asked, and if i think it's helpfull to many, i pst it hopeing it does :) since every artist has his own ways to do things, it might be very interresting anyways to look over each others shouders.
yes, my way to work comes very close to sculpting, block out silhouettes, then get main volumes in place, add in light, keep pushing and pulling values til they take place. i work extremely loose and freely, no particular order in steps and tweaking often on the fly.i also use photoshop in a very basic way, so not much fancy ways to createm just use of basic tols i like and painting straigh forward.
To join the challenge for learning is really great. i can tell i always learned very much on these, and more than all, since i lost most of my stuff a while back i have had no actual reel sort of a gap i was busy the last few months to stuff with new paintings, new models, basically, build up a portfolio that is up to date. so there's the other plus on challenges, you actually get a nicely highly polished piece for your portfolio - you are forced to finish as a longtermproject - on a deadline :) one of my biggest weaknesses on noncomissional works is i am a perfectionist and there's always something i find i dislike or can do better, so i often finish my works to 90%, then get stuck annoyed and let it rot ^^ a challenge actually helps me finish a piece :) glad the tut helped you and looking forward what you make out of it :)
Best of luck to you all and keep on rocking :)
Greatto: glad you liked the little tut i made :)by far not where it should be but at least showing the methods :)
brrrhmmm: yes, thats the main focus on the environments. i took myself a little freedom out and flipped the circleshaped display of the library to a vertiical disply to have a nice center.and of course its patricia standing in front of it, wathcing "death"
Ivy00: you are very welcome :) well i am not worried to share a few things i know and show some various ways to approach things when i get asked, and if i think it's helpfull to many, i pst it hopeing it does :) since every artist has his own ways to do things, it might be very interresting anyways to look over each others shouders.
yes, my way to work comes very close to sculpting, block out silhouettes, then get main volumes in place, add in light, keep pushing and pulling values til they take place. i work extremely loose and freely, no particular order in steps and tweaking often on the fly.i also use photoshop in a very basic way, so not much fancy ways to createm just use of basic tols i like and painting straigh forward.
To join the challenge for learning is really great. i can tell i always learned very much on these, and more than all, since i lost most of my stuff a while back i have had no actual reel sort of a gap i was busy the last few months to stuff with new paintings, new models, basically, build up a portfolio that is up to date. so there's the other plus on challenges, you actually get a nicely highly polished piece for your portfolio - you are forced to finish as a longtermproject - on a deadline :) one of my biggest weaknesses on noncomissional works is i am a perfectionist and there's always something i find i dislike or can do better, so i often finish my works to 90%, then get stuck annoyed and let it rot ^^ a challenge actually helps me finish a piece :) glad the tut helped you and looking forward what you make out of it :)
Best of luck to you all and keep on rocking :)
daWinky
11-20-2006, 07:23 AM
Morning Sacha,
great update again, more and more details to discover here and it's amazing to see how the scene elements are working together:thumbsup: . No crits from me, just dropped in for a little cheering:
go, Sacha, gogogo!:bounce:
Nice day for you!
-sabrina
great update again, more and more details to discover here and it's amazing to see how the scene elements are working together:thumbsup: . No crits from me, just dropped in for a little cheering:
go, Sacha, gogogo!:bounce:
Nice day for you!
-sabrina
prabath
11-21-2006, 06:22 AM
Hey Sacha,the piece is shaping up nicely.All the tiny pieces are falling into place.Great work & styling.
Cheers!
Cheers!
SONIC-X
11-21-2006, 09:18 AM
Looking great Sacha.Looked at your portfolio-very impresive.
element5
11-22-2006, 03:22 AM
Outstanding work as always Sacha, no crits from me. :thumbsup:
icedeyes
11-22-2006, 09:10 AM
Great work Sacha... As you know i love your artistic style... My only comment, is that Patricia looks way too perfect compared to the other, more humane looking, characters... I really like how you managed to mix so many ellements without clutching (dont know if i spelled this right) the composition...Very nice work...
brrrhmmm
11-25-2006, 04:43 AM
Side by Side comparisons So that you know who is doing
what in the illustration category of the eon challenge only.
Classifier followed by artists.
: Strong/Beautiful Foreground Potraits with EON elements in the background.
Movie Posters theme.
Characters in dramatic poses.
Characters have detailed skin,muscle and skeletal structures.
Radu Bogdan Boeru
Tiberius Viris
Sacha angel diener
Niklas Frostgard
Michael van den bosch
sandra bott
michael dashow
nabil hamadi
alwyn talbot
timur kiryashov
damir g martin
Nathan L Bachelder
Daniel lu visi
Maurizio Manzieri
dale thomas
ego lataire
rune rask
guo jian
hugo araujo
: massive architectures,detailed cityscapes,plasma tubes,huge eon elements viewed in the distance in the style of grand space opera with miniscule,faceless,diminutive men ,women and all terrain machines reacting and responding to the environment.
Tiberius Virius
remko troost
tolgahan gungor
torsten wolber
nathaniel west
ramy badie
bryce smith
martin nielsen
emrah elmasli
mauricio alvarado kladt
prabath wijayantha
maciej frolow
nilesh ambekar
constantinos krystallis
greg kaperski
adrian fekete
reinaldoromero
marcin j. nikiforuk
james nelms
maurizio manzieri
jarek sznytzer
Derek wilson
Nazirull Safry Paijo
Daniel justin bird
dale thomas
erik linden
rune rask
david freeman
ori arad
markus graf
ali jalali
raffy encarnacion
alex kelly
: air ,sea atmosperics featuring natural elements of islands,skies blend into a grand sense of scale.Includes Tree elements.Gaia oriented.Mountain views and Spectacular chamber vistas. Sky atmospherics
adrian baluta
gonzalo golpe
gunilla elam
jonathan colvin
guo jian
oscar jostedt
: party scene with the character interacting and gossiping
Parties gathered at gate opening
Radu Bogdan Boeru
nekomouse
: wonderful sense of humor even black humor and caricature
Torsten Wolber
per trystad
mark david
: action packed conflict with eon elements in the backdrop and lots of machines,ships,cities and soldiers
thierry schiel
paul hume
: entire cities,planetary bodies,asteroids,weather systems,gates,singularities,flawships and space vehicles in awe inspiring perspectives with large scale explosions.Ships have beautiful designs.Space Atmospherics.
sacha angel
neville de souza
prabath wijayantha
greg kaperski
mona eriksson
attilla kurt
vladimir davidenko
paul b castillo
juha kamarainen
mauricio alvarado kladt
joel carlo
shawn andrews
matt benya
Derek Wilson
blaz porenta
oscar jostedt
pavel elagin
: detailed explanatory tutorials
sacha angel
matt benya
what in the illustration category of the eon challenge only.
Classifier followed by artists.
: Strong/Beautiful Foreground Potraits with EON elements in the background.
Movie Posters theme.
Characters in dramatic poses.
Characters have detailed skin,muscle and skeletal structures.
Radu Bogdan Boeru
Tiberius Viris
Sacha angel diener
Niklas Frostgard
Michael van den bosch
sandra bott
michael dashow
nabil hamadi
alwyn talbot
timur kiryashov
damir g martin
Nathan L Bachelder
Daniel lu visi
Maurizio Manzieri
dale thomas
ego lataire
rune rask
guo jian
hugo araujo
: massive architectures,detailed cityscapes,plasma tubes,huge eon elements viewed in the distance in the style of grand space opera with miniscule,faceless,diminutive men ,women and all terrain machines reacting and responding to the environment.
Tiberius Virius
remko troost
tolgahan gungor
torsten wolber
nathaniel west
ramy badie
bryce smith
martin nielsen
emrah elmasli
mauricio alvarado kladt
prabath wijayantha
maciej frolow
nilesh ambekar
constantinos krystallis
greg kaperski
adrian fekete
reinaldoromero
marcin j. nikiforuk
james nelms
maurizio manzieri
jarek sznytzer
Derek wilson
Nazirull Safry Paijo
Daniel justin bird
dale thomas
erik linden
rune rask
david freeman
ori arad
markus graf
ali jalali
raffy encarnacion
alex kelly
: air ,sea atmosperics featuring natural elements of islands,skies blend into a grand sense of scale.Includes Tree elements.Gaia oriented.Mountain views and Spectacular chamber vistas. Sky atmospherics
adrian baluta
gonzalo golpe
gunilla elam
jonathan colvin
guo jian
oscar jostedt
: party scene with the character interacting and gossiping
Parties gathered at gate opening
Radu Bogdan Boeru
nekomouse
: wonderful sense of humor even black humor and caricature
Torsten Wolber
per trystad
mark david
: action packed conflict with eon elements in the backdrop and lots of machines,ships,cities and soldiers
thierry schiel
paul hume
: entire cities,planetary bodies,asteroids,weather systems,gates,singularities,flawships and space vehicles in awe inspiring perspectives with large scale explosions.Ships have beautiful designs.Space Atmospherics.
sacha angel
neville de souza
prabath wijayantha
greg kaperski
mona eriksson
attilla kurt
vladimir davidenko
paul b castillo
juha kamarainen
mauricio alvarado kladt
joel carlo
shawn andrews
matt benya
Derek Wilson
blaz porenta
oscar jostedt
pavel elagin
: detailed explanatory tutorials
sacha angel
matt benya
tastatura
11-27-2006, 01:41 PM
wonderfull this things is near the end, just to render out the little details, but from this stage even we can see the characters, very nice done with a lovely touch of traditional painting ;) its very good over all. good luck :) since you are batteling this challenge on 3 front. very nice man, loooking forward for those left side rendered elements :thumbsup:
p.s very nice that you have blend more the color gradiation it adds that more then needed depth :)
p.s very nice that you have blend more the color gradiation it adds that more then needed depth :)
walrus
12-05-2006, 03:02 PM
Hellllooooo? Anybody home?
(*crickets*)
And I checked your other house - er, I mean your modeling entry - and you're not home there either. You bum, you better not be blowing off another Challenge entry! Will you just pick one of the categories and finish an entry!? No fair getting bored with it before it's done, now get back to work!
;)
-mike
(*crickets*)
And I checked your other house - er, I mean your modeling entry - and you're not home there either. You bum, you better not be blowing off another Challenge entry! Will you just pick one of the categories and finish an entry!? No fair getting bored with it before it's done, now get back to work!
;)
-mike
Ivy00
12-05-2006, 07:49 PM
Yes I agree with Mike, besides I miss my new friend :) Let's see an update
Zephyri
12-06-2006, 06:14 AM
Hey hun, hope you're doing okay, and I'm agreeing with the posters here, you've got to keep going with this, it's too good not to finish! I know i have no room to talk.. :P
Terro
12-08-2006, 07:51 PM
Sacha whare you at man? I hope your in a hermit mode working on this image because it HAS to be finished. It's too good for you to miss the dead line.
NinjaA55N
12-17-2006, 05:06 AM
wow! This one is becoming very very epic! When it will be finished I'll take a day off from work and study every single detail of the poster. I really love how u manage to put so many different stuff to the lower part of the image and than clear the poster while going upwards. Please dont hate me coz I dont anything to crit at this point... I just hope that all the faces will be similar polished as the girl is in the middle, it will look so much Holywood like :) Really good work!
kmest
12-17-2006, 08:37 AM
hey sacha its been a while ive not been here....and great progress since then...the amount of time and presure you put on this image is .....awesome...the whole composition and the colors ,,,exactly the yellow in the middle gives it a beautifull center......as usual the girl is becoming better and better..and ................so on:thumbsup: :thumbsup:
I just hope that all the faces will be similar polished as the girl is in the middle
as far as i know this guy....i seriusly doubt that http://us.i1.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/i/mesg/emoticons7/65.gif yes sacha???:bounce:
BTW i just tought that th challenge must have been over weeks agohttp://us.i1.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/i/mesg/emoticons7/40.gif
I just hope that all the faces will be similar polished as the girl is in the middle
as far as i know this guy....i seriusly doubt that http://us.i1.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/i/mesg/emoticons7/65.gif yes sacha???:bounce:
BTW i just tought that th challenge must have been over weeks agohttp://us.i1.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/i/mesg/emoticons7/40.gif
TheFirstAngel
12-17-2006, 05:08 PM
http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/14/11653/11653_1166375284_medium.jpg (http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/14/11653/11653_1166375284_large.jpg)
ok, started on some volumetrics, and yay, love my cloudbrush for doin this
mainly tinted the whole piece slightly purple and then colordoged out some highlights, then copied the whole piece to a new laye and started hardlight the whole scene to get the values right. after some speak with Walrus (thanks mate, helpful as usual) i actually let many parts simply drop to the background. now more detail brushups, at least i could unify the piece now, abd te tweaks brought the characters strongly forward as well.
see ivy? promissed an update in the next 2 days, so here it is :)
ok, started on some volumetrics, and yay, love my cloudbrush for doin this
mainly tinted the whole piece slightly purple and then colordoged out some highlights, then copied the whole piece to a new laye and started hardlight the whole scene to get the values right. after some speak with Walrus (thanks mate, helpful as usual) i actually let many parts simply drop to the background. now more detail brushups, at least i could unify the piece now, abd te tweaks brought the characters strongly forward as well.
see ivy? promissed an update in the next 2 days, so here it is :)
TheFirstAngel
12-17-2006, 05:40 PM
k, i am a bit too lazy now to rewrite my answers, so i'll skip answer all posts personally this time since my long post just has been erased :(
Some might have noticed i was a bit away, i had to move, lost a week of work, had to get back into scedule with deadlines and got most of it down by now, so far, back here again :)
thanks all for the encouragements, i am very thankful and 100% sure i can escape my "curse of unfinished challenges" this time and get this piece done.
back to the fun again and happy about it :) yay wheeeee lets rock again ^^ :beer::buttrock:
Some might have noticed i was a bit away, i had to move, lost a week of work, had to get back into scedule with deadlines and got most of it down by now, so far, back here again :)
thanks all for the encouragements, i am very thankful and 100% sure i can escape my "curse of unfinished challenges" this time and get this piece done.
back to the fun again and happy about it :) yay wheeeee lets rock again ^^ :beer::buttrock:
shattered-fx
12-17-2006, 05:47 PM
Hi Sacha,
Just want to say that you've got a really nice piece here, its really amazing ! and the newly added fogs/clouds helps a lot to create a more effective atmosphere:thumbsup:..
-raffy
my EON entry
Just want to say that you've got a really nice piece here, its really amazing ! and the newly added fogs/clouds helps a lot to create a more effective atmosphere:thumbsup:..
-raffy
my EON entry
Ivy00
12-18-2006, 01:01 AM
ha ha , excellent, does this update mean I have to call off the horde of screaming teenage girl fans from you now?
Very nice updates, and happy to see you with some time to finish this :) :)
Very nice updates, and happy to see you with some time to finish this :) :)
walrus
12-18-2006, 06:41 AM
does this update mean I have to call off the horde of screaming teenage girl fans from you now?
If you're not going to use them on Sacha, I'll take them! :)
...
Looking good, Angel, keep it coming!
-mike
If you're not going to use them on Sacha, I'll take them! :)
...
Looking good, Angel, keep it coming!
-mike
daWinky
12-18-2006, 09:00 AM
Hey Sacha!
So good to see you back with another update:) , we've missed you around!
I really like the new unified feeling for your scene:thumbsup: ...and waiting for more updates now!
-sabrina
So good to see you back with another update:) , we've missed you around!
I really like the new unified feeling for your scene:thumbsup: ...and waiting for more updates now!
-sabrina
thepineman
12-18-2006, 09:34 AM
I think your Illustration has potential because it looks like that it could tell the story of the book just by those elements and characters you put together. Good luck.
Ivy00
12-19-2006, 01:24 AM
If you're not going to use them on Sacha, I'll take them! :)
lol Mike, I have to keep them on standby to make sure Sacha finishes the challenge
lol Mike, I have to keep them on standby to make sure Sacha finishes the challenge
TheFirstAngel
12-26-2006, 03:21 AM
rofl, so walrus want's em screamin' gurlies? ahahah maybe santa dropes him some ^^
idyeaah: thanks mate. glad you like the lil fogpass
daWinky: thank you so much. well i actually was stressed the hell to get all comissions i had in my pipeline done in time :P glad to be back as well :)
thepineman: thanks a lot! glad you like the piece, its taking at least a direction now its fun to work on :)
actually came to post this and wisch you all great and beautiful holidays, keep on rocking and enjoy a great xmas-eve :) a bit late i know, stumbled over an a bit complicated elf :p big hugs to the greatest cg community! this is for you :scream::beer::buttrock:
http://www.angel3d.ch/content/digital_paintings/sketches/xmas2006-bloody_elf.jpg
idyeaah: thanks mate. glad you like the lil fogpass
daWinky: thank you so much. well i actually was stressed the hell to get all comissions i had in my pipeline done in time :P glad to be back as well :)
thepineman: thanks a lot! glad you like the piece, its taking at least a direction now its fun to work on :)
actually came to post this and wisch you all great and beautiful holidays, keep on rocking and enjoy a great xmas-eve :) a bit late i know, stumbled over an a bit complicated elf :p big hugs to the greatest cg community! this is for you :scream::beer::buttrock:
http://www.angel3d.ch/content/digital_paintings/sketches/xmas2006-bloody_elf.jpg
Ivy00
12-26-2006, 07:46 AM
lol, cute picture Merry Christmas to you :)
kmest
12-26-2006, 09:57 AM
heheeee....nice pic sacha....and merry Xmass to you too
nwiz25
12-26-2006, 10:47 AM
hey buddy! wishing u and ur family a very merry christmas! :bounce: :love:
cheers! :beer:
http://nwiz25.cgsociety.org/gallery/444492/
> awesome update man! me just waiting to c da final showdown! :D
cheers! :beer:
http://nwiz25.cgsociety.org/gallery/444492/
> awesome update man! me just waiting to c da final showdown! :D
gpepper
12-26-2006, 01:39 PM
COOL SKETCH SACHA !
Merry Xmas and Happy new year too ! :bounce:
Merry Xmas and Happy new year too ! :bounce:
DrIvErD
12-29-2006, 09:30 PM
hey merry xmas sasha :)
OKMER
12-29-2006, 11:35 PM
Hey so good to see you back mate!!!super cute pic!
Happy yew near Sasha!!!
:beer:
Happy yew near Sasha!!!
:beer:
bluepen
12-30-2006, 12:08 PM
I can't wait to see the final piece of yours especially the details... Keep up the good work man!
ReinaldoRomero
12-30-2006, 06:58 PM
Hey Sacha where are you, no more updates :( I hope you got the time to finish all of your entries, especially this one. BTW nice xmass pic, tnx a lot for sharing it.
Wish you the best and happy new yera mate!
Wish you the best and happy new yera mate!
TheFirstAngel
01-02-2007, 04:40 AM
http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/14/11653/11653_1167712838_medium.jpg (http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/14/11653/11653_1167712838_large.jpg)
Lanier update, mainly pronounced his cheekbones more, tried to give him more of a native american touch, alloverworx progressing too so one more update later tonight.
happy new year all and lets run these 13 days burnin' hot and rock it all the way :)
Lanier update, mainly pronounced his cheekbones more, tried to give him more of a native american touch, alloverworx progressing too so one more update later tonight.
happy new year all and lets run these 13 days burnin' hot and rock it all the way :)
TheFirstAngel
01-02-2007, 04:46 AM
Ivy00, Kmesty, nwiz25, gpepper, DrIvErD, OKMER, : thanks a lot :) happy new year mates! ^^
bluepen: right working on them, might post some more closeups soon and an all over shot later tonight :)
ReinaldoRomero: thanks a lot mate! yep comissions paused :p ahahaha took up work on this again and will finish 100% sure! promise :)
yay, back to the stone, more updates as the night is still young... errrrm 5.45 am isnt exactly that young still a bit more to go :) brb ^^
bluepen: right working on them, might post some more closeups soon and an all over shot later tonight :)
ReinaldoRomero: thanks a lot mate! yep comissions paused :p ahahaha took up work on this again and will finish 100% sure! promise :)
yay, back to the stone, more updates as the night is still young... errrrm 5.45 am isnt exactly that young still a bit more to go :) brb ^^
OKMER
01-02-2007, 04:46 AM
Whoooa, youre back Sacha mate!!!Excellent update, you really did a excellent job on Lanier,really well done american native face structure!!!
Happy new year mate (especialy the first 15 days(13 left)ha,ha!
we want more rock n roll:grin:
:beer:
Happy new year mate (especialy the first 15 days(13 left)ha,ha!
we want more rock n roll:grin:
:beer:
gpepper
01-02-2007, 08:40 AM
Hurry up and happy new year Sacha !
TheFirstAngel
01-02-2007, 08:45 AM
http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/14/11653/11653_1167727498_large.jpg
just a lil full post-more after a bit of rest :) - ahrgh detailing stress ^^
just a lil full post-more after a bit of rest :) - ahrgh detailing stress ^^
walrus
01-02-2007, 02:59 PM
My friend - I know what you were working on (or supposed to be working on) this past weekend... how the hell did you have time to get in work on this too?!? Anyhow, glad as always to see some update! :) (hope the other work went well, also!)
-mike
-mike
niva
01-02-2007, 04:37 PM
Hey Sacha, I'm starting to worry you might leave this one unfisnished too. There is still too much area out of focus in your image. Just put your head down and make sure it's done before the deadline because it will be a real shame if it's not.
Thanks for the 2nd movie tutorial. Those clips are very helpful and insightful. Unlike the one with the ogre and the fairy I found this one much easier to follow for some reason. Looking forward to future installments of your challenge and tutorials.
Thanks for the 2nd movie tutorial. Those clips are very helpful and insightful. Unlike the one with the ogre and the fairy I found this one much easier to follow for some reason. Looking forward to future installments of your challenge and tutorials.
Ivy00
01-02-2007, 05:07 PM
Really glad to see you having some time for updates... or at least , well 5:45 am sheesh, I thought I was bad posting things at 4 am my time, ha ha.
Looking beautiful, keep going and finish so I can give those teenage gurly fans to Mike :)
Looking beautiful, keep going and finish so I can give those teenage gurly fans to Mike :)
walrus
01-02-2007, 08:48 PM
Right! Yeah! What she said! :D
pushav
01-02-2007, 09:50 PM
Nice work like always.
TheFirstAngel
01-03-2007, 02:14 AM
http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/14/11653/11653_1167790461_large.jpg
ahahaha one of the most annoying works on this pic, painting hundreds of little skyscrappers inside the tube, about 50% of em done... lol
ahahaha one of the most annoying works on this pic, painting hundreds of little skyscrappers inside the tube, about 50% of em done... lol
TheFirstAngel
01-03-2007, 03:26 AM
walrus: glad THAT timeline got extended, thou, i worked 3x 18 hours in a row on that and spent a few more hours over this bugger here, a3 300 dpi and full of nasty details :p but slowly getting there now, took today off and started detailing the final level and goin nuts with all those little parts to paint. been not sleeping nuf lately but thats the common challenge syndrome. gotta break a curse ^^
niva: welcome mate. and thanks, dont worry, if my calculations work, 4 or 5 evenings should do for the cleanup and 1-2 for the fxlight and tweaks. and stuff. so i think THIS time, i WILL bring it to an end :)
Ivy00: ahahaha defiantely dont envy walrus' new fanbunch ^^ rofl. *i willlllll not overdetail it this time i mustn't paint it all with a 1 pixel brush... focus focus* arrr ^^ ok, hope that works, i will try to keep it painterly in many parts so either way, send em to cali already ^^
walrus again: hehe xactly ^^
Pushav: thanks old friend , missed ya round like so many of the residents, its definately not the same without the whole crew :(
yay, next update in an hour or 2 or so, finishing the lower right corner now as far as possible :) back here soon with an update :)
niva: welcome mate. and thanks, dont worry, if my calculations work, 4 or 5 evenings should do for the cleanup and 1-2 for the fxlight and tweaks. and stuff. so i think THIS time, i WILL bring it to an end :)
Ivy00: ahahaha defiantely dont envy walrus' new fanbunch ^^ rofl. *i willlllll not overdetail it this time i mustn't paint it all with a 1 pixel brush... focus focus* arrr ^^ ok, hope that works, i will try to keep it painterly in many parts so either way, send em to cali already ^^
walrus again: hehe xactly ^^
Pushav: thanks old friend , missed ya round like so many of the residents, its definately not the same without the whole crew :(
yay, next update in an hour or 2 or so, finishing the lower right corner now as far as possible :) back here soon with an update :)
TheFirstAngel
01-03-2007, 06:17 AM
http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/14/11653/11653_1167805037_medium.jpg (http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/14/11653/11653_1167805037_large.jpg)
some more work in the lower right corner :)
some more work in the lower right corner :)
TheFirstAngel
01-03-2007, 06:26 AM
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fineworks on the portraits started,also tried to bring in more expression to the characters. the curiousity of mirsky, a touch of sadness to patricia, determination to olmy, and same for lanier...
as for the details, added many many to the lower right corner yet, and some more to come - basically tons of detailing ahead, but start getting happy with the way it takes. as i decieded to not overpolish the piece, i'll try keep much of the painterly feel it has and will try to keep the detailing focussed :)
7.35am - time for a lil break and more detailworks after a bit of rest :) all c&c most welcome as usual.
fineworks on the portraits started,also tried to bring in more expression to the characters. the curiousity of mirsky, a touch of sadness to patricia, determination to olmy, and same for lanier...
as for the details, added many many to the lower right corner yet, and some more to come - basically tons of detailing ahead, but start getting happy with the way it takes. as i decieded to not overpolish the piece, i'll try keep much of the painterly feel it has and will try to keep the detailing focussed :)
7.35am - time for a lil break and more detailworks after a bit of rest :) all c&c most welcome as usual.
walrus
01-03-2007, 02:59 PM
Looking good, my friend. Nice detail work on the city. 2 character comments for you:
The Patricia in the lower right, standing in front of Axis City? I could be wrong, but it feels a bit like her legs are too short for her torso.
Secondly - and this is just a matter of personal preference - it feels to me like Mirsky's face, specifically his jaw, is too rounded. It feels like he has a lot of "baby fat" on his face, and instead of making him look tough, it comes off to me as sulky/pouty, and many years younger than he should be. Maybe a slightly leaner look would make him look a bit older, tougher and more military? (I also think the eyes could be "tougher," but I can't put my finger on what isn't working about them for me. I can put my finger on the roundness of the jaw, but not the eyes, so i guess I'm not being too much help there... let me think about it.)
Anyhow, good luck with the detailing...! :)
-mike
The Patricia in the lower right, standing in front of Axis City? I could be wrong, but it feels a bit like her legs are too short for her torso.
Secondly - and this is just a matter of personal preference - it feels to me like Mirsky's face, specifically his jaw, is too rounded. It feels like he has a lot of "baby fat" on his face, and instead of making him look tough, it comes off to me as sulky/pouty, and many years younger than he should be. Maybe a slightly leaner look would make him look a bit older, tougher and more military? (I also think the eyes could be "tougher," but I can't put my finger on what isn't working about them for me. I can put my finger on the roundness of the jaw, but not the eyes, so i guess I'm not being too much help there... let me think about it.)
Anyhow, good luck with the detailing...! :)
-mike
nwiz25
01-04-2007, 04:45 AM
SENSATIONAL!
:eek:
u da man Sacha!
:eek:
:applause:
details galore! lovin each n every one of em!
cheers buddy!
:beer:
n a rockin new year to u!
god bless!
:eek:
u da man Sacha!
:eek:
:applause:
details galore! lovin each n every one of em!
cheers buddy!
:beer:
n a rockin new year to u!
god bless!
icedeyes
01-04-2007, 08:12 AM
Happy new year Sacha... I love your image especially the lower part of the composition... Works very well and frames the characters....
zweiDee
01-04-2007, 02:47 PM
mhhh, wird immer besser das bild. kritik chan eigendli kei geh, de mike hätt ja scho alles gseit. mir gfallt immerno de hippiebus am beste. :)
hüt haui mal mini scetches ine, scanner hani jetzt. peez sascha!!! du rocksch eifach numä!!!
hüt haui mal mini scetches ine, scanner hani jetzt. peez sascha!!! du rocksch eifach numä!!!
Ivy00
01-04-2007, 04:11 PM
The updates look excellent :) and yes, ha ha keep away from that 1 pixel brush
TheFirstAngel
01-05-2007, 07:48 AM
http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/14/11653/11653_1167983336_medium.jpg (http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/14/11653/11653_1167983336_large.jpg)
self explaining post wich actually is - i know - a bit late and i really need your help now.
A: the more calm version, weight on deepspacefeel - seeing the stone from the outside while the russian armada approaches it
or
B: trow it out, put back the beam over thistledown city's buildings and downscaled all characters to give em more room and also, 1 single vanishing point chosen in the lower part now (prolly would do that to a as well if you tell me its better.
now please help me to deciede, whats working better?
self explaining post wich actually is - i know - a bit late and i really need your help now.
A: the more calm version, weight on deepspacefeel - seeing the stone from the outside while the russian armada approaches it
or
B: trow it out, put back the beam over thistledown city's buildings and downscaled all characters to give em more room and also, 1 single vanishing point chosen in the lower part now (prolly would do that to a as well if you tell me its better.
now please help me to deciede, whats working better?
MarkyG
01-05-2007, 08:03 AM
Hi, for what it's worth I prefer A.
I like the framing better, the tighter grouping of the people and the colour. It just feels tighter/richer overall. Fantastic work!
...although I do prefer seeing Patricia's shoulder on B.
Markg
I like the framing better, the tighter grouping of the people and the colour. It just feels tighter/richer overall. Fantastic work!
...although I do prefer seeing Patricia's shoulder on B.
Markg
icedeyes
01-05-2007, 08:11 AM
I like both but if i had to choose, i would go for B....I think the characters show more motion towards the viewer in it and its all because of the space given to them i think... great work..
TheFirstAngel
01-05-2007, 08:11 AM
http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/14/11653/11653_1167983336_medium.jpg
http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/14/11653/11653_1167984708_medium.jpg (http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/14/11653/11653_1167984708_large.jpg)
or version c: composition b with header sky a?
(thanks for the sugestion Tascha :) )
a: original
b: beamskylight new composition
c: new compo with original sky
http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/14/11653/11653_1167984708_medium.jpg (http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/14/11653/11653_1167984708_large.jpg)
or version c: composition b with header sky a?
(thanks for the sugestion Tascha :) )
a: original
b: beamskylight new composition
c: new compo with original sky
icedeyes
01-05-2007, 08:13 AM
i still like B better...:P
OKMER
01-05-2007, 08:19 AM
IIIKSS, now you really make me hesitate,just like you,ha,ha!!!
In some kind a way the upper part of A is more rich indeed, but I find the upper part of B gives a lot of dynamics to the title.BUt maybe that's also because in B, you've got perspective on both sides and in A only on the left side.
So personally for the upper part I'll take A but with perspective on both sides like B.
And then maybe put the beam in ,but just from the "O" of EON.
For the lower part of the pic personaly I prefer "B".Indeed her shoulder is more dynamic too, to me.
just my two cents bro!!ha,ha
Keep on rocking mate!master stuff you got there!
:beer:
In some kind a way the upper part of A is more rich indeed, but I find the upper part of B gives a lot of dynamics to the title.BUt maybe that's also because in B, you've got perspective on both sides and in A only on the left side.
So personally for the upper part I'll take A but with perspective on both sides like B.
And then maybe put the beam in ,but just from the "O" of EON.
For the lower part of the pic personaly I prefer "B".Indeed her shoulder is more dynamic too, to me.
just my two cents bro!!ha,ha
Keep on rocking mate!master stuff you got there!
:beer:
OKMER
01-05-2007, 08:21 AM
didn't see C yet.I Like C!!!maybe with the perspective on both sides like in B.
And a beam coming from the inside of the "O" of EON.
just an suggestion ofcourse
One more big up!!!
And a beam coming from the inside of the "O" of EON.
just an suggestion ofcourse
One more big up!!!
OKMER
01-05-2007, 08:33 AM
Hey, how did you did you do this to get such a large pic's in your thread?
Greatto
01-05-2007, 09:14 AM
well actu ally i like all :) the last one C is very Good:) this small light that comes from behinde of her head is so perfect;) I prefer C one is coolest
but i think it will be beter if u will turn to again to right this chamber at bottom-left corner...
but i think it will be beter if u will turn to again to right this chamber at bottom-left corner...
Ivy00
01-05-2007, 10:00 AM
I like B, but it kind of cuts the picture in half, maybe some light as in B but not such a hard lined beam, kind of like in A ..... so maybe a combination of A and B but not as harsh as B?
walrus
01-05-2007, 02:37 PM
I like 'C'.'
The light on the top of 'B' is great, and very distinctive of 'Eon,' but it makes the logo hard to read. (It would be my favorite if you weren't using a logo.)
As for the ground, i like seeing the light on it, it ties it together with the light from the round screen and keeps the bottom from being too much of a muddy mess.
Just my 2 cents, translated to your local currency of course.
-mike
The light on the top of 'B' is great, and very distinctive of 'Eon,' but it makes the logo hard to read. (It would be my favorite if you weren't using a logo.)
As for the ground, i like seeing the light on it, it ties it together with the light from the round screen and keeps the bottom from being too much of a muddy mess.
Just my 2 cents, translated to your local currency of course.
-mike
pushav
01-05-2007, 07:29 PM
Yeah it has not been the same (repsonding to your commnet)
I plan on joining the next challenge. I have been busy working on my sketchbook on cgtalk like in my signature and I had to buy another hard drive to store my artwork. Plus all of my art programs was taking up my space along with my old art. 160 GIGS :thumbsup: I am set for a while on the space at least for like 7years lol.
Yeah I like the c composition the best.
Here is a suggestion try turning around that character (the standing guy) that is by the glowing portal in the middle of the picture and give him an evil smile with glowing eyes to add thae evil element like on an epic movie poster.
I plan on joining the next challenge. I have been busy working on my sketchbook on cgtalk like in my signature and I had to buy another hard drive to store my artwork. Plus all of my art programs was taking up my space along with my old art. 160 GIGS :thumbsup: I am set for a while on the space at least for like 7years lol.
Yeah I like the c composition the best.
Here is a suggestion try turning around that character (the standing guy) that is by the glowing portal in the middle of the picture and give him an evil smile with glowing eyes to add thae evil element like on an epic movie poster.
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