Anatomy Thread of Anand - 2D/3D

[Rebeccak]

anandpg,

Welcome. :) Nice to see your model here - I agree that Michelangelo was likely working based from a male model. Are you aiming to refine this piece, or to go for 10-15 torsos? Either is of course fine with me. :)

Looking forward to seeing more of your work. If you could tell us something about your art training / background, that would be helpful.

Cheers,

-Rebeccak

[anandpg]

Hi Rebecca! and hi all!
I think I will try and complete as many as possible, hopefully 10-15 so that I get as much sculpting practice as I can get. Later on I plan to try and refine all of them one by one, and perhaps work on the whole body, limbs and all.
As for background info, I am a sculptor-turned-3d modeler. I did my BFA in sculpture at the College of Fine Arts, Trivandrum, Kerala. I work on Maya and Zbrush. Great work, every body.. Its just awesome to see so many good artists working together in such good spirit!
I think its a great idea to learn from the work of the amazing ancient masters.

Cheers to all!!

[Thomasphoenix]

Great stuff Anand, how do you start on these posed ones? model in t pose rig, pose ,then sculpt or model as is.

cheers

[SpiritDreamer]

Hi....Anand...:thumbsup:

GREAT sculpture....lookinging forward to seeing more of your work...:)
TAKE CARE
Glenn

[ha-dou-ken]

Hi Anand. Great model there. How long did this take? I can't wait to see more from you. It makes me want to get back into MAX an crunch some stuff out heh. MORE!

[anandpg]

Hi Guys!
thanks for the encouragement. I was hoping to post atleast one a day, but I got so overloaded with work at the studio, I barely had time to cook my dinner. Hopefully, I will take off early today and sculpt something to post here. btw, great work, guys... its so inspiring just to look at your threads.

As to Siju's question, I usually make my basic cage in Maya, rig and pose it and then export to ZBrush for sculpting. anyway, here, as it was going to be a quickie, I made the mesh and posed it with ZSheres in ZBrush, using Maya just to correct the mesh-flow a little bit and went on from there. It took close to 1 and a half hours with 2 beers to keep up the flow.. hehe...:D

Cheers!!:thumbsup:

[anandpg]

Hi!
Man!..male torsos are hard!! I love Michelangelo, though.. his studies are so sincere and nobody ever carved marble with so much passion as him, excepting Bernini, perhaps. btw, could somebody tell me how to paste images directly on the message instead of displaying thumbnails?

http://forums.cgsociety.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=102482

http://forums.cgsociety.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=102483

http://forums.cgsociety.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=102484

[anandpg]

one more angle

http://forums.cgsociety.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=102485

[razz]

Great work one the torso, man! Nice model. Done very well considering that you had only one ref for it.

Use www.imageshack.us (http://www.imageshack.us) to upload images. And picturelink to display it here.

Looking forward to more!

[rasmusW]

hey Anand!

beautifull sculpts. really impressive.
can you post a pict of the base?

-r

[shyamshriram]

Superb stuff as i thought :)
Looking forward to see more !!


btw hope u r doing great..hows work going? :)

[batte812]

Amazing work here. I tried some 3D modelling myself but i'm nowhere coming near those results. It's very interesting to see your workflow in the master and servant thread as well.

Keep on posting.

[fanger]

hi!

cool posts!

[anandpg]

Here is one after the Palestrina Pietà by Michelangelo..

thanks for the help, razz.. I hope this shows up..hehe..

http://img156.imageshack.us/img156/8351/pieta01ki5.jpg
here's one with some perspective distortion:
http://img244.imageshack.us/img244/4964/pieta02kj9.jpg
the process:
http://img118.imageshack.us/img118/6804/pietazspheresli2.jpg
ZSperes in Zbrush
http://img244.imageshack.us/img244/2207/pietawire01po9.jpg
http://img90.imageshack.us/img90/6938/pietawire02fl2.jpg
http://img90.imageshack.us/img90/2691/pietawire03ib3.jpg
http://img90.imageshack.us/img90/4725/pietawire04ie2.jpg
http://img90.imageshack.us/img90/462/pietawire05ly7.jpg
http://img90.imageshack.us/img90/710/pietawire06vm6.jpg

[anandpg]

I took some liberties with the pose.. hope its not too bad..

I think this sculpture was done rather late in Michelangelo's life.. Looking at it, I am persuaded that the great master was at the peak of his sculpting prowess and his knowledge of anatomy towards the end of his life.. maybe he just lacked the stamina to carve marble for 20hrs a day as he did in his younger days.. anyway, i think this piece shows much more insight and maturity than any of his earlier work, though it is incomplete.

[anandpg]

another sculpt coming up..........

[anandpg]

Hi!

Here is my 4th sculpt for 'Torso'
after "Study for a Nude" by Michelangelo
http://img207.imageshack.us/img207/369/cascina02xr8.jpg
http://img172.imageshack.us/img172/6861/cascinawire01gu0.jpg
http://img174.imageshack.us/img174/4917/cascinawire02gd7.jpg
http://img156.imageshack.us/img156/5122/cascinawire03br6.jpg
http://img169.imageshack.us/img169/9338/cascinawire04wq6.jpg
http://img169.imageshack.us/img169/8867/cascinawire05je7.jpg
http://img244.imageshack.us/img244/47/cascinawire06ip2.jpg

[anandpg]

Hi!

I bought a scanner, so I can post my sketches too!!
http://img87.imageshack.us/img87/1396/scan0019vw4.jpg

from the video "Pumping Iron"
http://img89.imageshack.us/img89/6536/scan0016hg1.jpg
http://img90.imageshack.us/img90/231/scan0001wv7.jpg
http://img89.imageshack.us/img89/8571/scan0013wk2.jpg


after "Truth Unvieled" by Gianlorenzo Bernini
http://img155.imageshack.us/img155/8577/scan0003vs8.jpg

[SpiritDreamer]

Hi....Anand....:thumbsup:

Just wanted to tell you THANK YOU for shareing...:)
Your step by steps are a really big help to me,..gives me a better idea of how to use those
Z sphere's...proportions ect.
I am fairly new to Z BRUSH, and totally new to Z sphere's....just now working on my first model using them....Looking at your's, , I can now see how and where I can make improvements on my next try.....so THANK YOU..:thumbsup:
By the way....I think your work is FANTASTIC.....VERY INSPIRING....:bounce: :)

TAKE CARE
Glenn

[razz]

Amazing pieces of 3d work. Really inspires me to try and sculpt something. Looking great! And I do like the drawing of the girls body, although the hand looks too big. Keep up the outstanding work! :bounce:

[anandpg]

Hi Glenn.. nice to know my images helped. thanks for the nice words.

Razz... thanks for the kind words.. yes, the the arm is a bit large.. Actually I started with studying the arm and drew the torso as an afterthought.. so it went out of proportion!

Here is one more sculpt... again after Michelangelo

http://img207.imageshack.us/img207/7349/malenude1qh9.jpg

http://img207.imageshack.us/img207/1060/malenude2cx4.jpg

[anandpg]

my sketch for the sculpt:

http://img207.imageshack.us/img207/3817/malenudesketchcz3.jpg

[rasmusW]

hey anand!

looks really good. gotta try it out some day.
do you always start with zspheres?

-r

[anandpg]

Thanks, Abyss..
I usually start off with maya... I am able to structure my mesh better in Maya. ZSpheres are better for quick jobs like this, but they dont always give a clean mesh. You will need to clean it up a bit in Maya.

[sivan]

Hi anand,

Allow me to convey my sincere wishes for all the work you had posted here yet. More over I should say "Some of them are still there who really flow, admire The master - Michelegelo. "I saw the angel in the marble and I carved until I set him free." Giving life to a stone or a mesh is not a simple thing.

Now its the time to start modelling again after a long long time... For atleast to post in this thread... So i am starting of with a WIP portait of a girl Drawn in Photoshop with mouse.

Eagerly awating to see more completed works from the master.


- Sivan

[anandpg]

Hi Sivan!
Welcome! Great start on the portrait... I think you should start your own sketching thread and continue posting your work regularly.. Eager to see the girl's face finished!:bounce:

[Cavematty]

Hey bro - thanks for stopping by my thread. Your work is great!
Ive been saying to a few people lately that ive jus started playing around with zbrush...
its great to see someone else pushing and at a very accomplished level on these anatomy challenges. maybe i should try a torso... :)
consider ur thread watched ;)

edit: man that study for a nude is awesome man!
hehe the arnold sketches. I jus watched pumping iron myself. It inspired me to join a gym and get my fitness up (not on the steroids tho, i dont think ill try for mr olympia ;) )

[anandpg]

Hi Matty!

Thanks for dropping in. Yeah... I think you should start doing torsos in ZBrush, too.... Its fun!!

[Myku]

anandpg,

Really awesome work here! This is my first time looking through your thread and I'm very impressed :thumbsup:! Your drawings are really great and your sculpture is amazing. I don't work in 3D myself, and have actually gotten some very useful insight into how it's produced from your thread. Thanks for not only sharing your wonderful work, but also for giving us a glimpse into the process behind it.

Cheers :beer:!

BTW, I agree that the "Pumping Iron" studies are very cool........

[anandpg]

Hi Myku!!
Thanks for dropping in... I am glad you like the models..:)!

Here is one more..
after Carvaggio's "Amour Victorious"

I thought this one would be easy, but I realised that mighty muscle-men are easier to sculpt than infants! I spent quite a few hours on it, and still haven't got it quite right.

http://img174.imageshack.us/img174/5772/amourvictoriousrw7.jpg
sketch:
http://img174.imageshack.us/img174/3659/amourvictorioussketchfa8.jpg


here is the sketch for the next one... I started sculpting it yesterday, but didnt get very far..
after Michelangelo's
Study for the Libian Sybil
http://img174.imageshack.us/img174/2913/libiansybilsketchng0.jpg

[Intervain]

pretty darn sweet sculpting here! and sketchign :)
makes me feel bad I can't sculpt in zbrush from the z-sphere... :/ must see to that...

[Rebeccak]

Gorgeous work here anandpg - keep inspiring! :)

Cheers,

-Rebeccak

[Salubri3i]

impressive works. that armor victorious piece looks amazing. :bounce:

[anandpg]

Hi Intervain! Thanks for dropping in..

Thanks Rebecca.. I will keep trying my best.:)

thanks, Salubri3i.. amour victorious is the one I spent most time on.. i find it real hard to sculpt kids because they are so flexible and their surface anatomy is so volatile. .. so glad it came out ok. I think I need to spend some time sketching kids.

[SpiritDreamer]

Hi....Anan.....:thumbsup: :)

Can't get over how well you depict those figures in Z BRUSH...AMAZEING...GREAT preleminary drawing studies also....FANTASTIC job, I think ..on that Carvaggio...really has that youthful muscle tone and appearance about it....:thumbsup:
Thanks for taking the time out to stop by my thread, and for the sound advice... about combining Z BRUSH with another 3d software package to get the maximum effect.:)
BABY STEPS for me at the moment:scream: .....barely able to comprehend Z BRUSH right now...another
software will shortcircuit my brain for sure I think...LOL...:eek:
Was wondering if you had any tips for doing the hands,...mostly the fingers, using those z sphere's...do you have to make a seperate little sphere and joint for each digit of the fingers..?
I had trouble in that area on the z sphere figure that I just did...couldn't figure out how to
isolate just the hand area and just sub devide that one area for refinement, without sub deviding the whole figure...:shrug:
Anyway, mainly just wanted to thank you for the inspiraton....THANK YOU..:thumbsup:

P.S.....Can't wat to see that libian sybil....one of my favorite figures of his..:)
TAKE CARE
Glenn

[razz]

I'm really amazed by your ability to sculpt human figure when having only one reference image and make it so real looking, very close to he ref. And the sketches are very nice too! You know both, 2d and 3d, and you know that's an awesome thing!

Keep rocking :bounce:

[anandpg]

Hi Glenn.. I will try to answer your query about the hand later today in your thread.

Thanks, razz... I dont think I am much good in 2D.. I just use drawing as an aid to understand the forms I want to sculpt. I read in Irving Stone's "The Agony and The Ecstacy" that Bertoldo, Michelangelo's teacher, once told him: "Drawing is the candle the sculptor can light up, so that he does not have to grope in darkness". I think that says all thats to be said about the importance of drawing!

[spartan02]

The level of detail in your models ia awe-inspiring.:thumbsup: Totaly mind boggling, I love it. Great sketches as well, anandpg. Look forward to seeing more of your models.

[Rod Seffen]

I'm just getting into zbrush myself, so it's great to see the level of anatomy study that can be achieved. My favourite is the peice in post #22,
I've always loved that side view with the arm thrust forward to reveal the interplay of muscles coming from the scaplua and on the side of the torso. THe best exaple being Michelangelo's 'Victory' in my view.

[NR43]

Amazing work anandpg

your sketches are very accurate, no wonder your 3D models are of such high quality
more soon I hope :)

[UDBHAV]

EXELLENT WORK.

UdaiKrishna

[ashishdantu]

hi anand,

i'm inspired !!! wow :thumbsup:

lemme know when u r at work in the office ~ i'll peep and learn !! :)

awesome work !

-rgds,

[anandpg]

Hi spartan02! Thanks for the kind words..:)

Hi oDDity.. thanks for dropping in... You are right.. tha muscles of the back and shoulder are the most interesting to study.. and the hardest to model!

Thanks for the kind words, NR43.. I will keep trying.:)

Hi Udai... Hi Ashish... so nice of you to drop in... your appreciation adds to my confidence..:)

[anandpg]

Hi!
Here it is atlast... Got busy at the studio... so I couldnt work on it for some time..
after "Study for the libyan sibyl" by Michelangelo




http://img224.imageshack.us/img224/6167/libyansibyl01es1.jpg

http://img183.imageshack.us/img183/1144/libyansibyl02xi7.jpg

http://img183.imageshack.us/img183/1007/libyansibyl03vp1.jpg

[Rebeccak]

Good lord. That's one of the most impressive things I've seen all year. :thumbsup:

The legs seem a bit disproportionately large atm - but the torso / head / arms - WOW.

[SpiritDreamer]

Hi....Anand....:bounce: :thumbsup: :applause: :thumbsup:

Beautiful job on that....Can't help but think what Michelangelo would think if he saw this..
Would probably love it, I think..:)
KEEP INSPIRERING...:thumbsup:

TAKE CARE
Glenn

[newellteapot]

Beautiful sculptures! You really know your anatomy! Will check this thread often

[anandpg]

Thanks, Rebecca... now that you said so, I think the legs are huge too.. I will post an edited version this week.. Thanks a lot.:thumbsup:

Glenn.. thanks a lot.. I am sure Michelangelo wouldnt have given it a second look, but you just gave me the best compliment I ever got in my life.:bounce:..!! ...and coming from you, it holds a lot of value for me..:love:

Thanks for stopping by, Monica.. and for the kind words. Pls keep watching and commenting!!:)

[razz]

With each new study you amaze me more, Anand! How do you make it so close to the original? What magic is this? :D You're insane, sir. In a very good way, of course.
The contour of your model looks very similar to the original drawing. Shows your great knowledge of anatomy. I really don't know what to say.
Can't wait to see another one. Ah, my poor jaw...

In continuation with what SpiritDreamer said, I think that Michelangelo would've sculpted it, not painted :)


Awesome skills :drool:

[Intervain]

ooh nice though it feels over-sculpted now - the buttocks seem unnatural to me but most of all the chest area of the back...Still awesomeness in general :)

[shyamshriram]

:eek: AMAZING WORKS SIR !! Beautiful studies...Great to see ur sketches as well.
I really enjoyed ur process..thanx for sharing :)

:buttrock: Keep Rocking!
btw im going to give u few stars :scream:

[fanger]

:eek::applause:.......
(doesn't know what to say...."WOW" sums it up i guess)

[Womball]

Fantastic sculpts! I'm very tempted to try to sculpt one of the torso studies due to your work. How many polygons to these tend to be? Love the sketches too, they look extremely accurate.

[Cris-Palomino]

Beautiful work, Anand! It's really great to see your 3D versions of these...so incredibly beautiful and intricate. And your sketches are on par with your sculpting. It's interesting to see the direction you chose for the lower half of her body. That came as a surprise. I agree with Rebecca on the leg, but damn....nice torso.

Cris

[rasmusW]

hey anand!

simply beautyful work. you'r a true zb master:)

-r

[anandpg]

Hi Razz.. thanks for the kind words.. Its no magic..hehehe... though its awefully nice of you to say so.. If there is anything good in my images, its probably the clay studies I did at college paying off..:)

Hi Intervain... thanks for dropping in.. Yes... I think it is a bit over-sculpted.. it will take some more work to achieve a more subtle, smooth feel. I guess I should sculpt more from real-life reference. thanks for telling me.:thumbsup:

thanks, Shyam!! keep dropping in.. call me when you are back in Bangalore!

Thanks, Vikram! when will you start posting your work?

thanks for dropping by, Womball.. I am glad if my work makes you want to do ZB Sculpting.. Please try it.. its really fun!

thanks, Cris... I will do something about the leg soon..!

thanks a lot, abyss...!! btw, I am very far from being a master... I just started... long way to go..:)hehe...

[anandpg]

I didnt sculpt a thing this weekend... tired of pushing the mouse all day... So I decided to get some much-need sketching practice... here u go... all master copies.. lousy, though:D

http://img224.imageshack.us/img224/6663/scan0027qf7.jpg

http://img19.imageshack.us/img19/8349/scan0028nd4.jpg

http://img222.imageshack.us/img222/5126/scan0029bw3.jpg

http://img154.imageshack.us/img154/3296/scan0030lo4.jpg

http://img151.imageshack.us/img151/6/scan0031ln1.jpg

http://img301.imageshack.us/img301/6316/scan0032ex1.jpg

http://img183.imageshack.us/img183/9845/scan0033tu7.jpg

http://img226.imageshack.us/img226/4549/scan0035hc9.jpg

http://img80.imageshack.us/img80/9408/scan0036gg6.jpg

[Cris-Palomino]

Very nice on this last batch, Anand. I really love seeing those of you who are equally skilled in 3D as well as 2D....wonderful to see that ability.

Cris

[NR43]

lousy??

don't be hard for yourself. They are damn good. One doesn't have to be a pro to see that you have a great sense for proportions and you know to eliminate what's redundant and capture the essence beautifully!

Way to go anandpg
Keep 'em coming!

[Intervain]

WOW sweet sketches - great to see awesome 2d from you as well! :bounce: KUDOS!

[ha-dou-ken]

You aren't human....I just want to say that. There is no way in hell you are fom this earth...:). This is definitely on my top 5 threads here Anand. Thanks! More:drool:

[Thomasphoenix]

Hi Anand:), Since everyone has said the nice things I wont repeat it! A suggestion from my side is to study the bony landmarks of d body it will help u get the elbow ,shoulder ,hip, rib etc areas volume much better!

Cheers

Siju

[anandpg]

Thanks Cris... I think practising a bit of 2D is essential for developing skills in 3D, and vice-versa.

Thanks for the kind words, NR43.. My proportions always go off a bit, though..:D but I have decided to keep practising.

Thanks Intervain... you are getting on awesomely in 2D and 3D, as well.... I love that ZBrush hand study of yours.

Hi ha-dou-ken... thanks for dropping in.. I am human, though.... hehe.. I err quite a lot!!:D

Thank you so much, Siju.. I will keep in mind what you said... I need a lot of good advice.. keep stopping by my thread!

Here are my this weekend's sketches... I decided not to sculpt any more till I get a wacom... Sculpting with the mouse is straining my arm and wrist too much... in the meanwhile, I will sketch as much as I can.. problem is, I dont get much time on week days.. lots of work at the studio(thats a good thing, though!).

http://img155.imageshack.us/img155/2272/scan0038mn3.jpg

http://img150.imageshack.us/img150/2617/scan0039qn0.jpg

http://img157.imageshack.us/img157/1407/scan0040ii1.jpg

http://img243.imageshack.us/img243/5779/scan0041ml2.jpg

http://img174.imageshack.us/img174/4062/scan0042ka4.jpg

http://img179.imageshack.us/img179/8475/scan0043xv2.jpg

http://img244.imageshack.us/img244/3184/scan0044kw0.jpg

http://img168.imageshack.us/img168/6045/scan0045pp1.jpg

[anandpg]

btw, I have taken a liking to Rubens... I had always thought of him just as a guy who painted fat ladies!!..
Now that I look closely, I go crazy just imaging the amount of study that must have gone into his paintings. So much anatomical detail lies woven into those delicate strokes, though almost eclipsed by the richness of light and color.

I think, to really appreciate the work of a master, you must sketch from his paintings/sculpture.

[Rebeccak]

btw, I have taken a liking to Rubens... I had always thought of him just as a guy who painted fat ladies!!..
Now that I look closely, I go crazy just imaging the amount of study that must have gone into his paintings. So much anatomical detail lies woven into those delicate strokes, though almost eclipsed by the richness of light and color.

I think, to really appreciate the work of a master, you must sketch from his paintings/sculpture.
I couldn't agree more! The more I've looked and studied Rubens' and Michelangelo's drawings over the years, the more I appreciate their mastery - and how untouchable they are, in a sense. It really is a matter of seeing their work on increasingly deeper levels, and that only happens by really looking hard at their work and trying to copy it. Appreciate reading your thoughts here as well as seeing your inspiring work. :)

[razz]

Amazing, Anandpg. A valuable weekend after drawing these. I couldn't say which ones I like the most, they're all looking so great :bounce: I like the amount of studies you do, because I only tend to do a few...Yes, I'm slow.
Very lovely linework, and shading is just right to give a sence of light hitting the head/figure/arm.
Would sure love to see you doing more of these, though I miss your sculpts already :)

[Tonik]

Wow, great 2d and 3d stuff. The limbs on the Pieta could do with a little work but I can see that you've concentrated on Zbrushing torsos and they do look fantastic.

The sketches look very natural and the marks are very confident and easy to look at. I like your style.

[SpiritDreamer]

Hi...Anand...:) :thumbsup:

Just stopping by to say Hi, and to say that I really enjoy your drawings...you have a nice way of really capturing the same spirit and vitality that exist in the originals...a real pleasure to see these...BEAUTIFUL JOB...:applause: :thumbsup:
Also wanted to thank you again, for the help you have given me with understanding Z BRUSH.
THANKS AGAIN...Anand...:thumbsup: :)
HAVE A GREAT ONE..:)

TAKE CARE
Glenn

[FateBringer]

Hi Anand

well i think it's all been covered so ditto, awesome work and keep it coming :thumbsup:

Mark

[AztcFireFlower]

Anandpg Your work is incredible and most inspiring. You show such sensitivity to form and carve out as you need to show understanding of form and yet can sculpt some subtle and elegant shapes such as the calves of the Libyan Sybil.
Your are indeed a ZBrush master. My hope is when I begin my study of ZB, I will be able to have the sensibilty you demonstrate in your beautiful handling of your figures.

[Devil-inside]

I'm still looking your sketchbook and I don't know what to say. Your works are so amazing. Also I really like the sentence in your signature! XD~ I'll certainly keep an eye here, because I can't wait to see more stuff from you.

[jramauri]

Man, you are my hero! Dedication, theory, practice and talent all in one package! Extremally inspiring sketchbook. You 3d versions of Michelangelo's drawings made me breathless! Keep going, your work is really fantastic. Congrats.

[anandpg]

Thanks for stopping by, Rebecca... you know what? You have opened my eyes to a lot of things through this forum... the importance of master studies being just one of them... It just started with the torso lesson... and I dont think I will ever quit. thank you... thanks a lot.

Thanks, Razz... I have just started using my weekends fruitfully. Dont worry... I will start sculpting again soon.... meanwhile, sketching is very important home-work!!:)

Thanks for dropping in , Tonik!! Yeah.... Ive gotta work on the limbs... I am still not so good at positioning arms and legs in relation to the torso... they tend go off proportion... its a hard job... Ive gotta work on it. thanks for the feedback, man!:thumbsup:

Thanks for the kind words, Glenn... About ZBrush, I wouldnt miss any opportunity to be of service to you..!

Hi FateBringer! Thanks for dropping in!

Thank you so much for the kind words, Aztc... it means so much to me coming from somebody as talented and experienced as you... The quality of your work is overwhelming.. Please consider me at your service whenever you want to know anything about ZBrush.

Hi Devil-inside...! Thanks for stopping by.... Actually I picked up that line from Irving Stone's Book "The Agony and the Ecstacy", about Michelangelo. Bertoldo, Michelangelo's sculpting instructor, tells him "talent is cheap; dedication is expensive.. it may cost you your whole life.." The 15 year old Michelangelo, who had no ambition in life but to carve marble, replies with his characteristic innocence: "but Master, what else is life for?"

Thanks for stopping by, Jramauri!!
(http://forums.cgsociety.org/showthread.php?t=425275)

[Thomasphoenix]

Great taste Anand! :thumbsup::thumbsup:!"The Agony an the Ecstacy" pretty much shaped my life , read it when I was 16! About 20 times!

Try to watch the Charlton Heston and Rex Harrison movie of the same name !
Heston has done a god job as Michelangelo and Harrison as the Pope Julius II!


Cheers and Happy sculpting!

[Michael-Kingsbury]

The 3D torso modelling is great. Very good muscle attachments and flow of fat and muscle layers. We can feel the muscles slide under the fat and see the details, yet subtle, of the muscles and tendons.

The only thing I'd like to see is a greater emphasis on visual design of the musculature from your perspective, such as the volume grammar relationship between the upright thigh and calf and the torso. What do you see their volumetic, visual, relationship, as you can describe it by advancing your modeling of the 3D torso-figures.

These 3D models you have created are really great to study. They are approaching sublime.

[anandpg]

Hi Siju.. Thanks for dropping in.. You are right about "The Agony and the Ecstacy"... In my opinion, every artist should read that book. It changed my life too... I read it at a time when I was full of doubts about the course of my life, my choice of career, etc.. and it told me straight to my face what I ought to live for.. what the life of an artist is all about.. I taught me among a lot other things, that art is not about a career.. its about life, its about passion, its about what you live for, its about what you see when you look back from your death bed...

I will die a happy man if I realise in my life even one thousandth of what that book told me!

[anandpg]

Hi Micheal... Thanks for stopping by..:) Thank you somuch for the kind words.. I have not studied much art theory, so most of what you said went right over my head.. hehe:D... I gather from what I could understand that you were talking about the compositional value of the sculpts, right?

[anandpg]

Here are a few more sketches.. the first one is from "pumping iron" video..

http://img176.imageshack.us/img176/9530/scan0046og7.jpg

here are a few sketches of Ben Miller... the service he is doing for the community is priceless. I hope he comes across my thread and posts a few comments!!:)... though he wont be so happy to see himself sketched so poorly...hehe!!
http://img167.imageshack.us/img167/2926/scan0047kj0.jpg

http://img167.imageshack.us/img167/5085/scan0048vy7.jpg

A few female nudes in action, for a change.. I have tried to study some fore-shortening in these.. I soon discovered its not so easy!.. I have got so used to getting my foreshortening ready-made in 3D viewports..hehe!!

http://img171.imageshack.us/img171/5724/scan0051sn7.jpg

http://img293.imageshack.us/img293/3383/scan0052di5.jpg

http://img175.imageshack.us/img175/2360/scan0053nk8.jpg

seated nude..
http://img169.imageshack.us/img169/654/scan0050vh8.jpg

[NR43]

wow you keep getting better and better... some great material here!

btw, I so love the quote in your sig! It's pure poetry!

[Intervain]

Nice sketches anandpg! Keep'em coming :)

[CgIcecube]

Well i admire your works done in ZBrush:thumbsup:

[aggie93]

Where did you find action poses like the volleyball player?

[anandpg]

Thanks, NR43.. still long way to go... your encouragement helps a lot.:)

Thanks a lot, Intervain!

Thanks for dropping in, Richa. glad u like my models.

hi Aggie!! thanks for dropping by.. a friend downloaded these images from god-knows-where! Let me see if I can upload them as a zip-file some where and post the link.. I guess I will need Rebecca's permission first.

Coupla more Ben Miller studies:

http://img329.imageshack.us/img329/6947/scan0056ve7.jpg

http://img179.imageshack.us/img179/3023/scan0057wu5.jpg

more female nudes- this time from characterdesign.com

http://img297.imageshack.us/img297/4227/scan0055fi6.jpg

http://img292.imageshack.us/img292/217/scan0054yn3.jpg

[SpiritDreamer]

Hi...Anand..:)

Just popping in to say Hi, and THANKS, and to see what you have been up to....lots I see...great drawings.
Really like that last one..captured the twist and tension between the torso and pelvic area
perfectly..really nice flow to it.:thumbsup:
Real pleasure seeing these...Always an insiration..:)
TAKE CARE
Glenn

[razz]

Hey! Great sketches. I always found it harder to draw from photos than paintings. Don't know why really, some paintings are photorealistic. You're doing a great job drawing from those photos. Nice foreshortening in the sketches with the girls playing volleyball. Foreshortening is so freakin' hard :scream:
Continue with this nice connection of 2d and 3d pieces :bounce:
Maybe you'll even make some paintings? :)

[AztcFireFlower]

Hi anandpg,

You have really good studies going. The foreshortening reads pretty well, I think. I would watch the proportions on the arms in a few of the figures, though. One way is to check the negative space from, say the head, and the length of the arm. If you were to run a straight imaginary line from top of head to end of fingers, for example, is the nagative shape formed by the arm and shoulder to head, long or short or boxy? This is one way to see if the placement is correct and also trains you to look back and forth to areas correctly placed to help adjust area or limbs not sure about yet. If this doesn't make sense, let me know, and I'll try and come up with a different explanation.

Also thank you for your offer of your expertese in 3D. Would you by any chance know about Maxons' Body Paint 3D for a Mac?

[anandpg]

Hi Glenn!! Thank you so much for the kind words!!

Hi Razz, Thanks mate!! paintings?... I dont know...:shrug: never been much good with colors.:sad:

Hi Aztc... Thank you so much for the feedback... My proportions are always a bit off.:sad:.. hope practice helps.. I think I somewhat get what you are saying, but not sure I got it right... can you explain with a drawing?... paint over one of my sketches if you like.:)

[anandpg]

And, Aztc.. I used Bodypaint once for my "Master and Servant" Challenge.. on a windows PC.. Its a pretty decent 3d paint tool.. planning to do any texturing?.. Try a couple of different packages before settling for one.. There used to be one called "DeepPaint3D" .. dont know if its still around.. that was a simple and straight-forward one.. But I would say, try texturing in ZBrush before you try anything else!

[Womball]

Excellent sketches! I dunno how you can say they are poor quality. Great sense of shadow too.

[demented]

Wow, great thread!

Your 3d works are really outstanding, insane detail.
Your drawings are also really good,
seeing great value structures and a nice looseness to them.
Wish I was this comfortable with the human body.
Stunning stuff,

ciao!

- d.

[anandpg]

Hi, Womball, thanks, dude.. i try my best.

Hi Demented....Thanks a lot!!

I started sculpting again this weekend!! I started on Rubens' Descent from the Cross (outside left)

reference:
http://www.wga.hu/art/r/rubens/11religi/07desce3.jpg

I am still working on it.. I decided to post WIP images this time, so as to get some C&C early on. I will try to post updates on a daily basis... really want to see this one to the finish some day... hehe!!

http://img246.imageshack.us/img246/6075/rubens01im1.jpg

http://img224.imageshack.us/img224/9320/rubens02nu0.jpg

http://img155.imageshack.us/img155/2386/rubens03ma7.jpg

http://img246.imageshack.us/img246/8236/rubens04an9.jpg

[NR43]

Hey Anand,

great model sofar
I would suggest making him lean a bit more on his stick. He's an old man and acc to the ref it looks like the weight of his torso should be moved more to his right side.
The negative space between his left arm and his torso needs some tweaking too.(see the shape of the black triangle torso, upperarm, lowerarm). Maybe his upperarm is a tad too long? Not sure though.

Can't say anything on muscles and their places as your knowledge on that topic exceeds mine by far :)

Really looking forward to see more of this project!

[SpiritDreamer]

HEY...Anand...:thumbsup: :)

FANTASTIC START...:applause:
Only thing I notice, and I am not sure about, is the size of the feet and hands, and the bulk of the calif muscles ...you might try making them bigger.
Not sure how far you are going for total accuracy of the painting, or total accuracy of the way the figure would appear in real life.
Rubens does a lot of exageration of curves and form, to get the flow, and strength in his figures, by adding bulk, mass, and size of muscles.
That old man, may be old, but by the looks of him, I wouldn't want to go up against him, if you know what I mean...:scream:
Just a little something to keep in mind as you are sculpting him....exagerate...:)
Hope I have helped a little..just thought those points worth mentioning, before you got too far along in detail...:)
Am really looking forward to seeing the progress on this...THANK YOU FOR SHAREING YOUR STEPS....VERY INSPIRING WORK....I am really learning a lot by being able to see your step by steps....THANKS..:thumbsup:
TAKE CARE
Glenn

[Gord-MacDonald]

wow - a great mix of drawings and rendered images - both very accomplished. Good work!


Gord

[rasmusW]

hey anand!

very nice progress on the "rubens" and your life drawings are great too.
i don't visit your thread often enough.

-r

[Womball]

His left nipple should be moved over a bit more. Its a bit too centered now.

[anandpg]

Hi NR43... Thanks for the feedback.. I will look into all those areas as I progress.. I will remember to put in the staff also... I should be able to balance the weight better then.. thanks a lot!:thumbsup:

Thanks a lot for the comments, Glenn!! You are right about exaggeration... I have tried to do that in the update here... thanks for making that point! I will try to give him a more 'formidable' look as I progress...:) As for accuracy.. I will be satisfied if I am able to capture the 'spirit' of the figure in the painting atleast in a small amount... which you are helping me do... but not looking for an exact representation...thats beyond me!! thanks a lot for the guidance!!

Hi Gord!! thanks for dropping in!!

Hi abyss!! thanks a lot!

Hi womball!! thanks for the feedback..! will remember your point.

updates(still very rough):
http://img297.imageshack.us/img297/1261/rubens05bn1.jpg
http://img97.imageshack.us/img97/944/rubens06ah0.jpg
http://img167.imageshack.us/img167/6607/rubens07cv3.jpg
http://img174.imageshack.us/img174/1840/rubens08bw8.jpg

[SpiritDreamer]

Hi...Anand.....:thumbsup: :scream: :)

Beautiful job so far..:applause:
Be sure to capture the curves, strenght, and power of that leg that is coming forward.
Bulging calif muscle, pressure on foot, ankle ect....alot of weight on that one foot..:eek:
That leg, is catching all the weight, and all the muscles are reacting to that action, creating
all those nice snake like curves,..which in turn, creat the forward ...MOTION..:)
Really like the way you beefed up the upper torso and hips...has the feel and SPIRIT of a Rubens now...to me anyway....AMAZEING WORK....Anand, and very inspirering for me. This kind of work with Z BRUSH, gives me something to aim for with my own works done in Z BRUSH.
Thanks also for all the step by steps, really helpful...:thumbsup:
TAKE CARE
Glenn

[razz]

As I said in my thread, amazing! You sure now sculpting. You know, you could make an even more finished version. You sculpts are so beautiful, I'm wondering how better would they look textured and lit. Just a suggestion :)
Am I wrong or was it you saying that you sculpt with a mouse? If I'm wrong, sorry.

Love what I'm seeing here :drool:

[anandpg]

Hi Glenn... Thanks again for the guidance... will keep in mind all that you said while i progress on it.

Hi razz... thanks.. actually it sounds like a good idea.. let me see how far I can go on this one.. maybe I will go all the way to texturing and shading.. and perhaps complete the picture with a background and some props!!.. hehe.. that will be fun but a lot of toil.. and I am a lazy dog!!:scream: The last time I did that was for the Master and Servant challenge... and it was so exhausting.. I actually lost a few kilos..

Here are some sketches of Ron Eyre I did to help me with the Rubens copy..
http://img152.imageshack.us/img152/7828/scan0058tl1.jpg
http://img152.imageshack.us/img152/7707/scan0059fk2.jpg
http://img180.imageshack.us/img180/4862/scan0060kq3.jpg

One Ben Miller Study I forgot to post earlier:
http://img180.imageshack.us/img180/1102/scan0063ps1.jpg

Some female studies:
http://img180.imageshack.us/img180/9859/scan0061jn8.jpg
http://img180.imageshack.us/img180/2109/scan0062vd7.jpg
http://img145.imageshack.us/img145/1846/scan0064qt1.jpg
http://img145.imageshack.us/img145/1378/scan0065px3.jpg

[anandpg]

btw, Razz.. Yes, I sculpt with a mouse as of now.:sad:.. planning to buy an Intuos3 next month... err... most probably..:rolleyes:.. things are so damned expensive here.. import duties and other what-nots..

[Icey]

you rock in bolth 3D and 2D... great anatomy and representation!

[justmeina]

Oh wow! I'm sorry I had missed these sketches. I've been too busy lately, apparently. It's great to see them. I'm so tickled to see my reference images put to such good use! I like them all and am thrilled to see them all and see that many of them. I am particularly impressed by the one you posted last. That one really seems to capture the feeling of the pose. Great stuff, thanks for doing it, and I'm really glad I got to see it!

[metamesh]

man this thread is great! congrats on a well done job!
i was curious about ur workflow for the modeling that you do, do u start with the model already posed? or u work on a simmetry basis and once u finish u pose the model and retouch it or how do u do it?

thanks in advance and keep posting!

[aggie93]

You have some great work. I especially like your sketches.

[Therverian]

This is turning out to be a wonderful project, the skecthwork is great (I just looked at Ben and Ron's threads). Your resemblance to the reference is becoming more and more accurate as well :), the only thing that kind of throws me (and it may be because there is no staff) is that his center of balance seems a bit wrong. It looks, right now, as if his center is in his chest rather than on the arm/pec with the staff.

great work :)

[depleteD]

Amazing work here man. Keep it up

[Gunilla]

Hey! I can't understand how I could have missed this thread! Some really amazing work here and your step by steps of the workflow in ZB is really helpful - I know I will benefit a lot from following this, thanks! Your drawings are beautiful too so keep bringing us these goodies :thumbsup:

[SpiritDreamer]

HEY....Anand..:thumbsup:

JUST STOPPED BY TO ADMIRE YOUR WORK...BEAUTIFUL DRAWING STUDIES..Ron should be happy with that standing one of him...you took about twenty years off of him...:scream:
Looking forward to seeing more of that Rubens...looks FANTASTIC so far...PURE MAGIC..:bounce:
TAKE CARE
Glenn

[sivan]

Out of this Thread........

[razz]

sivakumar, don't try to hijack this thread but please create your own. I'm sure there someone will show you the way!

Anandpg, where are the updates?! Me wants updates!

[anandpg]

Hi folks!! sorry for the longish absence... busy studio..(the usual excuse..hehe:scream:)

Hi Icey... thanks for the visit..its a great pleasure.!!

Hi Ben!! thanks for dropping by ... you have been a great help.. I will post more drawings of you soon.

Hi Alex!! thanks for the visit!! its an honor!! I admire your work greatly. I usually pose the model while it is still in the blocking stage, usually in maya.. and then export to ZBrush and subdivide.

Thanks, Aggie93!!

Thanks, Therverain!! ... I think you are right about the balance.. will correct it as i go.. thanks.:thumbsup:

Hi depleteD!! thanks dude!

Hi Gunilla!! thanks for the visit!! keep popping in!!

Hi Glenn!!... thanks!!! will post updates shortly!

Hi Siva!! thanks for popping in!!.. I really recommend you to start your own thread.. You will get more attention and more specific feedback that way.. believe me.. it will take you on a great ride.. follow this thread for guidelines: http://forums.cgsociety.org/showthread.php?t=341167

Hi Razz!! Updates ye wants? its updates ye gets!!..hahaha..:D!!

http://img446.imageshack.us/img446/7489/rubens11ge6.jpg

http://img446.imageshack.us/img446/4218/rubens10ka2.jpg

close up on the right leg:

http://img446.imageshack.us/img446/3718/rubens13hc7.jpg

will post more soon.. there are some charcoal studies i havent scanned yet... will post them tommorrow.

[sivan]

Hi Razz,

I didnt tried to hijack the thread...

cheta....

Thanks for the guidelines.... like to know more about the faults and -ve's of that if you have much time to type in Will be posting my own thread soon....... Bye for now

[NR43]

Oh man, when I see this I realize I have soo much more to learn!
I hope I'll live to be 120years otherwise I might run out of time lol

Wonderful model anandpg.
The subtil changes almost feel like brush strokes to me. I can understand that one must be quite skilled to achieve this in Zbrush...

[Intervain]

Hi Anand! OOOh I'm glad to see you haven't stopped with that guy!! It's coming along nicely... must be a tedious job :) I like the knee a lot!

[sivan]

Hi,

Everyone Time to strat working fast.......


My Thread (http://forums.cgsociety.org/showthread.php?t=442277&page=1&pp=15)

[SpiritDreamer]

HEY....Anand....:thumbsup: :bounce: :)

You are really getting the energy and spirit of that pose and figure....GREAT JOB...:applause:
The only two small areas that I can see room for ajustments are...maybe have the big toe of the foot coming toward the viewer....BIGGER...spread out,and flattened out on the bottom edge, with all that wieght and force of forward movement upon it...Seems like the arch of that foot might also be shortened and raised, as if he is putting all his wieght on the front ball and toes of that foot,...causing the big toe to have that same stepped shape as the other toes, which look great by the way...can really feel the wieght and action in those other toes..maybe have them flattened and spread out across thier bottom edge. Missing it in that big toe, which is the tip, and climax of the forward movement and gesture of the figure.
Also wouldn't mind seeing the curves exagerated on the shoulder and upper arm that is on the viewers right side..the arm that leads into his hip....missing that nice wavey / snakelike
motion and action, that those curves creat, and the strength that they suggest in that arm.
Only a couple of small suggestions from me at this point in your developement of this FANTASTIC FIGURE...REALLY GREAT WORK Anand..and a GREAT PLEASURE SEEING IT.
VERY INSPIRERING...:bounce: :thumbsup: :)
TAKE CARE
Glenn

[ha-dou-ken]

Anand! Sick work here! I need to visit it more often. :bounce: You are really doing a great jpb of representing that model. Keep it up!:scream:

[batavia]

I like your work, especially the Sybil. It's cool to see the 2d characters come to life in 3d!

[anandpg]

Hi Johan!! thanks! you are too kind!!

Hi Magdalena!... thanks... it is kind of tedious as you say.. but the dream of seeing this finished keeps me going!! its kind of slow, too... I barely get 2 hrs a day to work on it.

Hi Glenn!! thanks a lot for your unfailing support!. and the thoughtful comments... I will work on all the points you mentioned before my next update...

Hi Isaias!! Thanks, buddy!!

Hi batavia! thanks for stopping by!

A little update on the head.. I think I will have to place separate objects for the teeth and the eyes..

http://img348.imageshack.us/img348/1756/rubens14bs9.jpg

[anandpg]

A few sketches, in the meanwhile....
heres one of Ron:
http://img348.imageshack.us/img348/923/scanbb7.jpg
also of Ron..:D
http://img348.imageshack.us/img348/8271/untitled1dp1.jpg

a few skull studies... an attempt at charcoal on news-print sheet.. (trying to emulate Rebecca.. hahaha!:scream:)

http://img348.imageshack.us/img348/7664/dsc00058ih9.jpg

http://img348.imageshack.us/img348/986/dsc00057zz3.jpg

[sivan]

Hi,

Congrats to you. This thread is growing. "Happeing Thread" KUDOS to Anand PG.

Regards,

Sivan

My Thread (http://forums.cgsociety.org/showthread.php?t=442277&page=1&pp=15)

[Intervain]

Hey Anand - the face's coming along beautifully - I love the beard!! great sketches too!

[AztcFireFlower]

Hey anandpg

Can't get over how beautifully you sculpt in 3D. Every nuance is paid attention to.
Still dragging my feet in 3D. Am sorta concentrating on concept design instead. But, if I were to go with modeling, you would be the example of excellence for me.
Amazing work, my friend. Amazing.

Your skull studies are vibrant. You do a fine job of maintaining your eye on proportion.
Don't stop doing what you're doing.

[SpiritDreamer]

HEY...Anand....:thumbsup:

Just stopping by to say.....BEAUTIFUL WORK..:)
Really nice emotion captured in the face of that Rubens...comes through loud and clear, even without the eyes and teeth, which can only add to it that much more..:scream: Can't wait to see the end result of this sculpture...AMAZEING, to be able to take a painting such as that one, and
be able to bring it to life in 3d, and also be able to retain the spirit and emotion of the piece
at the same time...TRUE MAGIC..:bounce:

Also like those drawings alot...:thumbsup:
That drawing of Ron...GREAT mood and feeling captured...:applause:
TAKE CARE
Glenn

[Leshiy3d]

wow Man! :surprised You have Incredible skills. I like everything!
keep going :beer:

[anandpg]

Hi Sivan! thanks for dropping in!!

thanks, Magdalena!..

Hi Aztc!! thanks for the visit!! your words are too kind!! ... and you are a great inspiration!

Hi Glenn!!... thanks again for your support... I will see this piece to the finish... atleast to do you some justice!! thanks.:)

Hi Leshiy3d!! Thanks for visiting!.. I admire your work greatly.

I had long been thinking of doing a 3D piece for 0FDW20.. and then I saw Magdalena was finishing her second one.. so I thought I had better get off my lazy butt and push some polys!! just set the camera and started blocking it up(this is gonna be boring, I tell you.. so I will understand if you guys dont check back on this thread for a while.. hehe)

http://img231.imageshack.us/img231/7528/m001az9.jpg

[ha-dou-ken]

Hey Anand! I can't wait to see this one through. I will sit attentively until the last poly is pushed. :thumbsup: Go for BROKE!:bounce:

[NR43]

wow it's the one I'm painting... the OFDW

You'll have a lot of work on modeling that dress!
really looking forward to see this one evolve!

[Intervain]

finishing my second one, moi?! I think you must have wondered off to a wrong thread LOL - now I feel guilty for not getting back on mine but doing other stuff instead :)

Great to see you do an OFDW piece! I'll be coming here even more often now :D

[anandpg]

Hi Isaias!! thanks, buddy!.. if you're gonna sit and watch, then I guess i will really have to some how finish this!:cry:

Thanks, Johan!! Ya... lots of work!!

Hi Magdalena!.. second one, i mean, including the 2D piece!! keep popping in!.. always a pleasure!

I worked a little bit on the head today.. its been a long time since I modeled something from scratch, so I though I might as well take some screenshots and share it with you guys:

defining the basic outline:
http://img227.imageshack.us/img227/314/m002yx0.jpg
(then I delete the right half of the model)
http://img412.imageshack.us/img412/4200/mprogress01fp4.jpg
adding a few lines and defining the major shapes:
(the right half is an instance of the left half, so it mirrors what I do on the left)
http://img186.imageshack.us/img186/4005/mprogress02xo3.jpg
http://img186.imageshack.us/img186/4967/mprogress03xz4.jpg
starting to shape the mouth:
http://img403.imageshack.us/img403/6209/mprogress04iu9.jpg
http://img406.imageshack.us/img406/3697/mprogress05aa9.jpg
http://img405.imageshack.us/img405/9230/mprogress06fe6.jpg
http://img80.imageshack.us/img80/6498/mprogress07uq8.jpg
http://img404.imageshack.us/img404/9808/mprogress08gg7.jpg

[anandpg]

after moving the points around and sculpting a bit with artisan:
http://img301.imageshack.us/img301/8166/mprogress09bo7.jpg
adding more lines:
http://img186.imageshack.us/img186/9018/mprogress10bx5.jpg
adding more lines around the mouth and shaping the lips:
http://img402.imageshack.us/img402/2120/mprogress11yn9.jpg
after placing spheres for eyeballs and adjusting the eyelids:
http://img405.imageshack.us/img405/3633/mprogress12me0.jpg
http://img404.imageshack.us/img404/4379/mprogress13fh5.jpg
I will work a bit more on this tonight and post screenshots tommorrow.:wavey:

[Intervain]

oh cool, somebody asked me to do a wire of step by step for the head but you beat me to it - :bounce:, can't say I'm disappointed - btw you've got an interesting way of shaping the head... a tad different than me but I like :D

you can see her already - whith those humongous bulgding eyes :) :thumbsup:

[milw]

thanks Anand, you saved Intervain from some hard work! I've been following your method, you can see a couple of hours work on my sketchbook thread (http://forums.cgsociety.org/showthread.php?p=4098778#post4098778)...


I'm just a noob so it will take me a while to get it looking as nice as yours!
cheers- Scott

[anandpg]

Hi Magdalena.. glad you are enjoying this.. I dont have a definite method for modeling.... whenever I start something from scratch, I try to do it in a different way than the last time.. that way I am constantly looking out for easier ways to do things!.. still learning. please post your step-by-step soon.. sothat I can learn that too!:D

Hi Scott! thanks for dropping by!!.. happy to be of help anytime.. just saw your thread.. good start... will post comments soon!

added more lines here and there:
http://img412.imageshack.us/img412/7624/mprogress14oy2.jpg
subdivided mesh:
http://img412.imageshack.us/img412/7449/mprogress15bt2.jpg

http://img246.imageshack.us/img246/473/mprogress16dq5.jpg

I will post a separate step-by-step for the ear later.

[Rebeccak]

Keep inspiring anand! So cool to see your WIP. :)

[SpiritDreamer]

HEY..Anand..:thumbsup:

Great to see those step by steps..AMAZEING ..:thumbsup:
Now I have what is probably a dumb question...how do you get the backside of a painting like that...do you just creat it from imagination..would seem to be the only way,I think,... or is there some magic trick that I am missing here...:scream:
HOPE YOU AND YOURS, HAVE A GREAT NEW YEAR....:thumbsup:
TAKE CARE
Glenn

[Intervain]

HEY..Anand..:thumbsup:

Great to see those step by steps..AMAZEING ..:thumbsup:
Now I have what is probably a dumb question...how do you get the backside of a painting like that...do you just creat it from imagination..would seem to be the only way,I think,... or is there some magic trick that I am missing here...:scream:
HOPE YOU AND YOURS, HAVE A GREAT NEW YEAR....:thumbsup:
TAKE CARE
Glenn

hehe you just use your imagination and hope for the best + if you're matching the angle of the camera to that on the painting you may get pretty close... but otherwise it's just imagination and some reference material.

anand - how are you tackling the hair?! :) And btw - are you taking her to zbrush or just going a full on traditional model here? and another one - texturing?! *nudge, nudge*

[anandpg]

Hi Glenn! HAHAHA!!... I agree with Magdalena.. its imagination + eyeballing + hope and prayer!! Here is what I try to do: I try to imagine the original 3d scene as it was painted from- the mutual positioning and size of objects, distance from the camera, etc.. Then I model the whole scene roughly and place a camera to see if the whole thing matches with the image.. Then I experiment with the focal length and stuff till i get a reasonable match, and then move the objects around to match the image more exactly. I have had to do this a lot while modeling sets because more often than not, the reference for a set does not contain a plan, elevation, etc. They just give you a "view" drawing of the set from some angle.. from which you have to build a whole 3D set!!

I do the same while modeling the head.. instead of trying to match the painting straight-away on a point-to point basis, I try to imagine the head in the round.. from all sides, then model the 3d head from that imagination.. Setting up the camera and matching the 2d image comes later.
Have a Great New Year, Glenn!! Greetings to Mrs SpiritDreamer!

Hi Magdalena! thanks!..
I think I will model the hair with NURBS surfaces and later use trasparency maps or something. Vikram told me you have an amazing method of combining NURBS surfaces with XSI hair!
I dont have much experience with maya hair, though.. I will just go with the surfaces.
I think I will finish up the head in maya and use ZBrush just for her dress and probably the hand. and aaaargh!! texturing!! I suck at texturing and shading... I will do my best, though.. or I will just give her a marble finish if it doesnt work out.;)

[CgIcecube]

Hi Anand:thumbsup:WIPs shw a very good workflow!..And many thanks for sharin it with us:)I m lookin fwd for the complete OFDW piece:bounce:

:)HAPPY NEW YEAR 2007:)

[FateBringer]

HI Anand

Your 3d work is amazing, really enjoyed seeing the step by step of the head :thumbsup:

Happy New Year!

Mark

[anandpg]

Hey Richa! HAPPY NEW YEAR!!:scream: Thanks for stopping by!

Hi Mark! thanks a lot! glad you enjoyed it! HAPPY NEW YEAR!!:scream:

updates:
worked on the dress a little bit... converted the torso to poygon from the original NURBS cylinder and cut a hole on each side for the sleeves..
http://img295.imageshack.us/img295/5592/mprogress17tu2.jpg
changed the topology to match the kimono-like tailoring..
http://img295.imageshack.us/img295/6172/mprogress18po8.jpg
converted the sleeves to polys from the original NURBS cylinders..
http://img479.imageshack.us/img479/7811/mprogress19eh2.jpg

[Intervain]

guess you're a workoholic like myself LOL - looking good! Can't wait to see more. Happy NY again :D :bounce:

[NR43]

Hey man
it's really great to see your workflow explained like that...
ok i had some comment on the camera angle here but I guess I shud read more carefully before posting :D

Watching this piece evolve with great interest!

Also... all the best for 2007... may all your wishes be fullfilled:wise:

[holdensc]

Hi Anand. Thanks for the encouragement. Your sketches are great and your models are amazing! I've never tried 3D, so I'm left speechless by your technique and accuracy. I can't wait to see how your OFDW progresses.

I see a fair bit of modelling using ZBrush around here. Is this like modelling with brushes? Or is it a paint texturing program that gives the illusion of depth on a pre-existing 3d model? I guess what I'm asking is, why would one want to use ZBrush instead of Maya or one of the big 3d apps for a given task?

Also, I'd love to see some of the work you do at your studio. Are you going to put up a portfolio anytime soon?

[SylvanMist]

Hi Anandpg, your sculptures in Zbrush are really impressive. Looking forward to seeing you finish your lastest one too :)

[YMS]

Happy New Year to you, Anand! :)

Thanks for your well wishes in my thread.

You've taken this OFDW woman to an incredible level with your modelling version. It's awe-inspiring, jaw-dropping stuff. :applause: (As others have commented, her face is so recognisable... really looking forward to seeing how you progress with her!)

[razz]

Oh my, doing this in 3d? You must be insane. I couldn't try doing any with those dresses in 2d, so what to speak about 3d. Seriously, man, if you are gonna finish this one, I'll be much more than astonished.
Now, everything is looking great, only I think you should make the eyes a tad smaller.
Have strength with this one, Anand! :bounce:

[anandpg]

Hi Magdalena! thanks! I wish I worked half as much as you.. :(

Hi Johan! All the best to you for the new year!!:thumbsup:

Hi Holden! thanks for dropping by!... The thing with ZBrush(and Mudbox) is that it supports an incredibly huge number of polygons, so you can subdivide your model to a level where you can manipulate it as a seamless surface(like clay or wax in the real world) instead of moving vertices and edges... and it provides you with tools/brushes which makes the modeling experience almost as tactile as sculpting with clay. As for stuff done at my studio, if i put any of that out, I am fired, HAHAHA!! I am hoping to put up a portfolio.. some day..!!:rolleyes:

Hi Roja! thanks for dropping by!!

Hi Yvonne!! thanks a lot! you are too kind!

Hi Razz! Hope you had a good vacation! You know what, buddy, I think it was after all a bad idea to start this thing! I dont know how I am gonna finish this..:cry: ... oh, ya.. you are right about the eyes! .. will post an update on that tommorrow.

update... a little work on the dress:
http://img294.imageshack.us/img294/5593/mprogress21od2.jpg

[razz]

Hey, man, don't loose the grip, you're doing fine. We all know that you can do it. Though remember that it must be a pleasure, not work. Whatever you decide, finishing this one or starting something new, I'm here with ya! :thumbsup:

[Gord-MacDonald]

keep em coming!


Gord

[anandpg]

Razz, thanks for your support, man!! I will try my best... have to finish my Rubens piece too.. dont know when!!

Hi Gord! thanks!

update: imported the dress into maya to see how its going with the other stuff.. I think I will need to give more depth to the folds... and theres some intersection going on at the shoulder.. fix it later..
http://img444.imageshack.us/img444/3707/mprogress22lj4.jpg
close up of the head... still going with maya.. made the eyes smaller and tinkered a little with the lower face.. braking up the symmetry a bit and trying to get some expression on the lips..
http://img444.imageshack.us/img444/5167/mprogress23nx8.jpg

[Intervain]

agreed about the depth of the folds, they also need more sharpness... guh I hate doing folds in zbrush ;)

amazing how much that layered collar changes - makes her look like her! Great progress Anand!

[SpiritDreamer]

HEY....Anand...:thumbsup:
Can't really comment, other than to say....keep pushing it...:scream: :)
A link in here, of the original at this point,.. I think would be very useful..maybe even a little version of the original up in the left side ,or alongsside of your model, done with a layer...might help viewers to help you better with this one...just a thought...:)
Anyway...really enjoying, and learning ALOT by seeing the way you work....THANK YOU..:thumbsup:
HEY....WHERE'S HER BACK, AND WHAT'S BACK THERE ANYWAY....JUST CURIOUS... LOL...:scream:
TAKE CARE
Glenn

[anandpg]

Hi Magdalena!.. I have half a mind to redo the dress in maya.. only, I am too lazy;).. not really comfortable with sculpting it... lets see...

Hi Glenn!... hmm... I will include a link to the original from now on... about the back, its not so pretty to look at right now... I will post a turn-around once I have worked a bit more on all sides... hehe..;) thanks, Glenn!!

update: started to block in the hands:
started from a box..
http://img120.imageshack.us/img120/3943/mprogress26wv2.jpg
then extruded polygons to get the fingers and thumb...
http://img166.imageshack.us/img166/7752/mprogress25xi3.jpg
imorted to main scene and moved vertices around to match the pose:
http://img442.imageshack.us/img442/1048/mprogress24ne2.jpg
from another angle:
http://img412.imageshack.us/img412/8082/mprogress27sy2.jpg
click here to view original painting (http://anatomy.cgnetworks.com/OFDW%20020/007.jpg)

[CgIcecube]

Its been days since am waiting for updates nw;):twisted::scream:
Hwz it goin anand?!!:)
Its always gr8 to see ur workflow:thumbsup:
sincerely waiting to see where you take this OFDW piece further in 3D:bounce:

[Intervain]

hear, hear! *nudge* *nudge* :twisted:


and btw - do I see the sleeve being modeled after all?! :D

[Frejasphere]

Hi Anand :)

You have great skills in an area I can't even begin to comment on.. :) Digital 3D modelling!
Lovely work! :thumbsup: Glad I visited your thread, and I will be back to see more for sure!

Take care and cheers!

a. :)

[NR43]

started on the hands I see...
been avoiding them in my own study. will stop avoiding them in my study now :D

Keep going! This is awesome!

[SpiritDreamer]

HEY..Anand...:thumbsup:
You know,...every time I stop into your thread,...It reminds me of how much I don't know, and how much there is left for me to learn in Z BRUSH....Thanks FOR THAT HAND STEP BY STEP...BIG HELP TO ME...:thumbsup:

She must have a cat or something ..kneeding it's claws into her back, to creat that smile that she has, and those big wide eyes, I think...:scream:

KEEP GOING Anand,....A real pleasure and learning adventure, for me anyway...:)
TAKE CARE
Glenn

[anandpg]

Hi Richa! Haha... I will post updates soon... just waiting for my wacom... the anticipation has just blocked out my will to sculpt with the mouse! It was supposed to have come yesterday, but the dealer says he is having problems pushing it through customs at the airport.. it may get delivered on Tuesday.

Hey Madgalena! thanks for the nudge!!... will keep going!

Hi Annette!... thanks! you are too kind.. i am still at a VERY early stage of learning.

Hi Johan! thanks, buddy! hands are a delight to draw/sculpt!!

Hi Glenn! thanks for your support, as always!... and immensely happy if this helps you in any way!!
in the meanwhile, here are a few sketches of Ron... he posted these poses for me quite a while ago... ungrateful of me to delay drawing them!... anyway, a million thanks to Ron and Ben... nobody ever posed for me since my college days.. and that was 10 years ago!!

trying to get used to charcoal pencil on news-print paper... not quite getting the hang of it, but enjoying it nevertheless... the downside is, they are too big to fit into my scanner.. had to buy a digital camera!!:scream:

http://img48.imageshack.us/img48/4999/ron01hy7.jpg
http://img444.imageshack.us/img444/4536/ron02sa9.jpg
http://img178.imageshack.us/img178/9725/ron03km1.jpg

[Icey]

No need to tell you what you already know :D......

But i will!

You are a 3D genius! love the way you are handleing the drappery!

[SpiritDreamer]

HEY...Anand...:thumbsup:

On my way to the art store, after I post this...newsprint, charcoals, conti crayons on my list of supplies for the figure class that i'm starting tomarrow night...hoping my figures come out as nice as those that you just posted...It has been 30 years or more since I have taken a figure drawing class, so should be interesting, to say the least..:scream: I already have a digital camera, so won't have to buy that..:scream: .....will just have to figure out how to work it now.. LOL..:scream:
TAKE CARE, and have a GREAT DAY...:thumbsup:
Glenn

[anandpg]

Hey Icey!! HAHAHA... I am no genius... just struggling to get better.. thanks!!:D

Hi Glenn! Oh, I am so envious of you!! I am just dying to do figure studies, but there are no figure drawing classes anywere in this country, except in universities!:cry: nudity is so taboo here!!

[anandpg]

Hooraah!! My Wacom finally arrived!!:bounce: Its an Intuos3 6X8. I spend most of the night figuring it out! here's one of my first doodles:

http://img181.imageshack.us/img181/9448/doodlemq3.jpg

[NR43]

Aha! That's great news!
I treat mine like it is my girlfriend lol

I would say... HAVE FUN CREATING ! ;)

[anandpg]

Hi Johan!.. HAHAHA!!.. I am having a hard time getting used to mine... planning to spend some quality time with her over the weekend!:D

started a Master copy for tablet practice.. Caravaggio, I think:)... I know its real messy... hope to get better..

http://img256.imageshack.us/img256/1391/mccaravaggio01cr4.jpg

http://img256.imageshack.us/img256/8553/mccaravaggio02op9.jpg

[Intervain]

hehe! WEEEEE! There's nothing like a beloved wacom, heh?! I see you got truly excited! Lovely study already - keep it up, keep it up!:bounce:

[Knilblink]

Hey Anandpg,

Congratulations on the new Wacom! I see you're already putting it to great use on the master study. Your 3d sculptures absolutely amaze me, I'm excited to see more 2d work from you as well. Keep up the good work!

Adam

[batte812]

Hi Anand, very inspiring sketchbook you have here. Impressive 3D-stuff. I really like your 2D work to. Amazing how you captured the likeness of Ben Miller - just to mention something. Keep going!

[Rebeccak]

Anand, congrats on getting your tablet! :) I cannot wait to see the works that you will produce with it!

[anandpg]

Hi Magdalena! Thanks:thumbsup: I feel kind of inadiquate while painting, since I have seen the ease and confidence with which you guys paint!

Hi Adam! thanks a lot!:D I am really enjoying it!

Hey Bart! Thanks for the visit! so glad you like my work!:)

Hi Rebecca! Thanks!! I am really hoping to do better work.. :D

some more work on the head... doesnt look much different, does it?..still struggling with the technique.. weekend coming up, so maybe I will make better progress in the next coupla days.

http://img264.imageshack.us/img264/6805/mccaravaggio03sa8.jpg

[SpiritDreamer]

Hey...Anand...:applause: :thumbsup: :bounce:
I see some really great paintings, in the very near future, now that you have that pressure senitive brush in your hand ..can't wait to see where it leads you to, or is it where you lead it to...:scream:
REALLY looking forward to seeing them, which ever way it works out..:) :thumbsup:
TAKE CARE
Glenn

[anandpg]

Hey Glenn!! Just missed your post!:scream:
Thanks!!.... I have ABSOLUTELY no idea where this is going!!:scream:... I just know that I am enjoying it a lot!!... hope it never stops!

[Samanthie]

Hi Anand, you have an amazing talent both 2d and 3d. Very inspiring! Thanks for stopping by my thread. I'm very happy to have dropped in on yours.:)

[FateBringer]

hi anandpg
looks like your getting the hang of you new toy :scream: looking good !

Mark

[aggie93]

anandpg - How do you do hair? Your bearded man is coming along great. I have problems with hair.

[Frejasphere]

Hi Anand :)

Exciting to see you tackle this new toy of yours :)
Looking good too; makes that little curiousity bug in me jump up and down :bounce: - as I've never ventured into the world of digital painting and drawing... oh - one day, one day :D In the meantime great to see where it takes you :) Have fun!

cheers and take care
a. :)

[anandpg]

Hi Samanthie! Thanks for the visit and kind words! you are too kind!:D

Hey Mark! Thanks!

Hi Aggie! I have no definite idea how to do hair... right now, I just look at the reference with my eyes unfocused(to blur out the details) and lay in broard patches of color... and then zoom in both the reference and my painting and work the details with progressively smaller brushes... I remember seeing a tutorial for painting hair somewhere in the forum.. didnt pay much attention at the time:sad:.. I will post a link if i find it... or just ask Rebecca!.. she knows all the links by heart!


Hey Annette! thanks for dropping by!! you should try digital painting! believe me, this is fun!!:bounce:


Update:
trying to find my rythm on the tablet... still way off, but feeling a bit more comfortable now..

http://img253.imageshack.us/img253/6459/mccaravaggio047tm.jpg

[razz]

I like the work you've done on the hand and the sleeve there :thumbsup: The lighting of it in particular. Still at the very beggining stages it looks great. Now all you need is to keep up with that and it will look even better.
And hey, give Painter a try. You'll notice a more traditional feel.

Good luck with your 2d adventure :bounce:

[NR43]

Hey Anand, great progress on the painting

The hair tutorial can be found on the website of Linda Bergkvist (http://www.furiae.com/index.php?view=gallery)
There are some other great tutorials there as well.

cya,
43

[CyborgJA]

Well, I spent 5 hs reading all your thread. It's incredible. I won't write anything like "you are toptalented artist" and so on cause I think it's more than clear. I'm really -really- happy for you and your new wacom. I saved money for 3 years to buy it and a graphic machines so I can understand how much frustrating is. I'm sure that you'll manage it soon and you'll feel it so comfortable in modelling that you'll speed up and produce tons of pics. I just can't wait :drool:
I noticed that you like italian sculptors, especially Michelangelo. Well, the Pietà that you described, the Palestrina one (it's so called cause it has been exposed in a town named Palestrina) maybe it's not from Michelangelo cause there is no official documentation telling that he was working at it.The most accreditated theory is that it has been sculpted by a Michelangelo's student cause of the error in legs' proportions.
If you are interested and you want to see the last pietà of Michelangelo, have a search on google image with this key : "pietà rondanini". It is placed 20 km far from my home, in the castello sforzesco (Sforza's castle), Milan. I can't describe you the power of this piece. It's incredible to see it from live, maybe it's more interesting than the Rome's one.

See you soon,
Serena :)

[michael-olszak]

Dude, you've got some awesome modeling skills man. WOW!. your painting is not so bad either. Good work man. Keep it up.

[Frejasphere]

Hi Anand :)

Just popped back to gawk at your progress on the Caravaggio... :thumbsup: great! beautiful - and dooo keep it up! Looks like you are taking to your new wacom like a fish to water :)

cheers and take care!
a. :)

[anandpg]

Hey Razz! thanks, buddy.. :thumbsup: the color on the sleeve was a lucky accident!;)

Hi Johan! Thanks for the link! thats a great tutorial!... Linda Bergkvist is awesome!!.. so much skill:eek:!!

Hi Serena! Thanks for dropping by, and for your precious time...:love:.. Permit me to envy you for having been born in a land of superhumanly great artists!! To visit your country has been one of my greatest dreams.. Thanks for the info on pietà rondanini. It is indeed a powerful piece.. a pity it had to be left the way it is.. (it is a wonder though, that the great master could so much as lift his mallet at 89!.. must have been the undying passion and the will, not just physical strength..) Thanks again for your time.. I went through your thread in the 2D WIP section... you have some awesome stuff going on there!!

Hey Micheal! thanks, man!

Hi Annette! thanks! I am steadily getting used to my wacom... yes, I love it!

Update.. a bit more work overall, and an attempt at painting hair:

http://img251.imageshack.us/img251/2047/mccaravaggio058vh.jpg

http://img251.imageshack.us/img251/5332/mccaravaggio061fp.jpg

[ha-dou-ken]

Oh snap! Congrats on the wacom Anand!:thumbsup: I'm really happy for you. I can't live without mine now ha. I really like the Caravaggio. It looks like you aren't having too much trouble adjusting to the new medium:)


Like always, more,more,more :drool:

[SpiritDreamer]

HEY ...Anand...:thumbsup:

Just stopping by to see how that Caravaggio study of yours is coming out.
LOOKS GREAT...:applause: ...ALSO LOOKS LIKE YOU HAVE ADAPTED TO THAT PEN AND TABLET NICELY..:thumbsup:
I can't remember off hand, are you using painter, or photo shop..? Just curious.
For hair, there is a great little tutorial by Don Seegmiller somewhere around here in this forum. I remember going through it awhile back, and thought it was pretty good. You might check it out if you have time and feel like it...might make your life a little easier, when it comes to doing hair..don't know...just thought that I would mention it, in case you were still looking for a tutorial on hair...:)
Keep up the GREAT and INSPIRERING WORK...Anand...:thumbsup:
TAKE CARE
Glenn
ps..off to my second life drawing class tonight..hope the model gets into some nice poses...the first class ..he had her stand straight up, arms at side..front and back view.....a simple study of proportion,..not too exciting ,..but gave me a chance to try out my new conti crayons though...tonight, hopeing for something a little more DYNAMIC,and INSPIRERING, in the way of the models pose..something worth posting maybe..:scream: :)
TAKE CARE
Glenn

[Zephyri]

Hi anandpg, just dropping by to say thanks for the words in my sketchbook, much appreciated, and to have a peek at your own work! The 2d master copy is looking good, love the beard especially, the colours on it are very traditional oil-looking. And how's the 3d model coming on? I noticed it in the OFDW thread and was impressed, even though my knowledge of 3d amounts to zip.

[anandpg]

Hi Isaias! Thanks!

Hi Glenn!.. thanks a lot.. I will look out for that tutorial.. I am usng Photoshop right now.. I will download the painter trial version and have a go at it soon.. btw.. did you figure out that digital camera yet? we are waiting for your figure studies!

Hey Sam! thanks... glad you like my work.:)

update: I will call this finished, unless you guys have some crits... have to get on with my OFDW piece(ya...ya... I know, its over..:rolleyes:)

http://img440.imageshack.us/img440/5517/mccaravaggio07pb8.jpg

click here (http://img222.imageshack.us/img222/7346/mccaravaggiobigqw8.jpg) for a bigger image.

[NR43]

Hey man it turned out really nice!
The beard, the eyes, the atmosphere... it's awesome...

the wrist looks a bit weird to me but I'm not looking at the ref and your anatomical knowledge reaches miles further than mine so I guess you can ignore my ramblin...

I can see it was love at first sight... you and your wacom :D

[anandpg]

Hey Johan! Dont be so humble!! Know that your critique matters and doesnt have to be in fine print..LOL!!:D.. My knowledge of anatomy is not so great, and any help is extremely welcome and highly appreciated.. Thanks, buddy... I will check that wrist and post an update soon.. :thumbsup:

[Intervain]

[QUOTE=anandpg]My knowledge of anatomy is not so great[QUOTE]

:surprised I might have entered a wrong thread then! Are you kidding me?!

The painting turned out awesome Anand!:applause:

[AztcFireFlower]

Excellent job!

[SpiritDreamer]

Hi...Anand...:thumbsup:

Looks like buying that pen and tablet, was money well spent..:)
GREAT JOB....Anand .....:applause: Can't wait to see # 2...:bounce: :)

TAKE CARE
Glenn

[nelchee]

I'm just... wow. It was great to see how the process of 3D modeling works. Your studies are amazing!
I love the OFDW piece, your painting technique is great.
This is one of the best threads I've seen here so far :D

[Iridyse]

Wow....
Beautiful work Anand! I think I'll learn so much more about anatomy by just looking through your thread. Thanks!!

[vincent1]

Hi Anand. Good to see your progress with your Tablet.

I'm having a blast with mine, too.

[CyborgJA]

Man, I'm honoured to write in your thread.
Well, if you seriously want to spend some time here in Italy, give me an "ack" I'll try to help you for hotels and anything else :thumbsup: Same for any artistic documentation.

One suggestion for hair : set up a "Multiple-stroke" brush. It will save you a lot of time :)

See you soon !

[anandpg]

Hey Magdalena!.... no seriously!.. I am a rookie compared to some of the people here!!... thanks anyways.:)

Hey Aztc! thanks! you are too kind!:blush:

Hi Glenn!! thanks for the encouragement, as always!! I do want to do a few more master copies, and maybe paint a thing or two from imagination as well.. and yeah... I cant thank myself enough for buying that tablet!.. no way I could have spent that money better, whatever the outcome maybe.

Hi Nela! thanks for dropping in and for the kind words!
This is one of the best threads I've seen here so far
...just goes to say there are lots of threads here you havent seen!! hahaha!!

Hey Shreya! thanks for stopping by... and the kind words!! btw, your WIP thread is just awesome!! thanks for the inspiration to paint!

Hey Vincent! thanks!!:D I cant remember how I used to work before my tablet came!!

Hi Serena! thanks a lot!!... I will definitely visit Italy as soon as possible... it has become somewhat inevitable! I will save as much money as possible this year... And hey! thanks for that hair tip.. will try that out... never went much deep into Photoshop... will have to, now!!

Ahem... I have kinda put that OFDW piece way for a while:rolleyes:... (lazy, as always!:D).. started working on the Rubens piece instead... (first things first).. I have some plans for that one.. will post updates soon.. in the meanwhile here are some studies of my left hand... mechanical pencil on sketch book.

http://img240.imageshack.us/img240/271/mylefthand01ul0.jpg

http://img258.imageshack.us/img258/1492/mylefthand02sa3.jpg

[Salubri3i]

awesome hand studies! :D

[anandpg]

Hey Ryan!! thanks!

Here is an excuse for an update on the Rubens piece... a little bit work on the eyes.. really want to make something of this, but cant get into the flow.. too many irons in the anvil.. and too little coal!!

http://img297.imageshack.us/img297/5510/rubens15es0.jpg

Close-up on the face:

http://img441.imageshack.us/img441/9294/rubens16qe7.jpg

[Rebeccak]

Such great stuff every time I check in here - it's great to see your sketches as well as your Rubens update. Definitely looking forward to more. :)

[ha-dou-ken]

Looks like a lot of coal to me Anand:)

[anandpg]

Hey Rebecca!! Thanks for dropping by!! :thumbsup:

Hey Isaias!!... hahaha...!! There is never enough coal!!

Bit more work on the face...
http://img453.imageshack.us/img453/7183/rubens17td2.jpg
close up..
http://img104.imageshack.us/img104/9563/rubens18ht3.jpg

[SpiritDreamer]

Hi...Anand...:thumbsup:

Just stopping by to see what you've been up to lately...nice hand studies.:thumbsup:
That Rubens is coming out great...I like the eyes, and expession you captured with them in the face..:applause::bounce: :thumbsup:
I wouldn't mind seeing some wind / air blowing through his beard and hair ...would really add to the motion of his motion...just a notion....:scream:
TAKE CARE
Glenn

[Frejasphere]

Hi Anand :)

First thanks for stopping by my thread - always a pleasure! :)

I am in awe of your sculpting/modelling skills! the life and the detail you manage is truly amazing; your models literally jump off the screen!

Out of curiosity: have you ever sculpted in clay or other "hands-on" materials? and forgive me if you've already covered this in your thread (I've looked through most of your thread, but you know how some things can slip the eye... esp when there's a lot of lovely work to look at ;) )

Looking forward to see where the Rubens man goes; he's looking great at the moment, you've captured the strength and determination in his face!

cheers and take care!
a. :)

[anandpg]

Hi Glenn! Thanks a lot for the comments!! It will be nice to have wind blowing thru the hair...
I just dont know how I am gonna do that!.. will give it a try anyways..:)

Hi Annette! Thank you so much... Actually I did a BFA in sculpture around 10 yrs ago, but it has been quite a while since I did any serious "hands on" sculpting.. I am gonna start again soon, as I am supposed to teach clay-modeling to students specializing in 3D modeling in our academy... starting next week!!

here are some more hand studies... copied from Bridgman:

http://img235.imageshack.us/img235/6264/scan0066ra1.jpg
http://img167.imageshack.us/img167/8715/scan0067bs8.jpg
http://img240.imageshack.us/img240/2763/scan0068ds6.jpg
http://img391.imageshack.us/img391/7311/scan0069yo3.jpg

from Stephen Rogers Peck's "Atlas of Human Anatomy for the Artist"
http://img130.imageshack.us/img130/7348/scan0070rb8.jpg

update on Rubens... bit of work on the hair..
http://img391.imageshack.us/img391/7778/rubens20sp9.jpg
http://img183.imageshack.us/img183/6788/rubens19ic2.jpg

[Frejasphere]

Hi again Anand :)

Exciting to hear about your past adventures in sculpture :) I must say I'm not surprised that you have worked in "hands-on" mediums; your concept of volume and form has that real and tactile sense about it. I guess that is why I had to ask.. :)

And don't be worried about your class next week... your students will be lucky to have you for a teacher! :) :thumbsup:

and.... really like those hand studies!

take care and cheers!
a. :)

[Cyanid]

great modelling, great studies.
I'm really enjoying this thread. No crits :D
are you planning on texturing the model?

[Mu]

Hi anand,

just admiring your wonderful work and must say that for me you are one of those 3D modellers who can really take their craftmanship to the level of classical understanding of figurative art.

There's quite a lot of impressive modelling to be found around here and other galleries/websites, but apart from the impressive realism that people achieve through good modelling, madly detailed textures and half a day of rendering the lighting (:D ) I must say that your untextured mastercopies are much more intruiging, for me at least. They don't put everything in my face (sometimes the near perfect realism of usual 3D work is just too much for me, you know? Hard to explain...:cry: ), but rather abstract from the object of study.

Pure and beautiful.

[Intervain]

Actually I did a BFA in sculpture around 10 yrs ago, but it has been quite a while since I did any serious "hands on" sculpting.. I am gonna start again soon, as I am supposed to teach clay-modeling to students specializing in 3D modeling in our academy... starting next week!!

AHA!! There - it's out! Say a word about being inexperienced at anatomy again and I swear I'll come charging down there - no distance will matter - and hit you myself LOL Great going on the Rubens guy - now you just have to make him perfect - detail and all :bounce: Keep'em drawings coming too :) Enjoying your thread as always :D

[Gunilla]

Hi Anand, oh my - you're a crazy good modeler! And thise hand studies are just beautiful - such an inspiration to go through your thread. Thank you, and thanks for the great overpaint you did for me, very valuable :)

[razz]

Oh my, impressed me hugely here, Anand. And it's hard to do really :) The model is top-notch! I'm speechless about your modeling skills. And great to see all the studies from Bridgman along with the model.
Oh, and gonna be teaching clay modeling? Maybe you'll be sculpting something from clay yourself? Would LOVE to see that!
By the way, if you're going to continue like this until the very end of the Rubens study, then, in my opinion, it's frontpage stuff :bounce:

[NR43]

"Descent from the Cross -> Ascension to the front page" hehe

It's indeed very very WOW already.
Microsofts marketing dept could learn from you. Saw a docu on how they were searching for wow factors to get the crowd impressed by Windows Vista - they should stop by here every now and then to see how to create that wow feeling...

[CyborgJA]

"Descent from the Cross -> Ascension to the front page" hehe

It's indeed very very WOW already.
Microsofts marketing dept could learn from you. Saw a docu on how they were searching for wow factors to get the crowd impressed by Windows Vista - they should stop by here every now and then to see how to create that wow feeling...


LOL I totally quote you ! But unfortunately they will never reach the "drool feeling" ! :wise:


Man finish this rubens' piece cause it's gorgeous !

[vincent1]

I think the Rubens head is incredible with the extra definition you gave to the zbrush sculpt. Perhaps even sharper strokes by tender application of the pinch brush would make the head pop up even more.

Great sculpt, especially since you are doing it with zpheres and meshing. :thumbsup:

[anandpg]

Hey Annette! Thanks.
your students will be lucky to have you for a teacher!
hehehe... I am really sorry for the kids.:D
I finished my first session yesterday and survived!:scream: I didnt have much of a demo to give, so I gave them some theory and some brotherly advice and then gave them the clay and the tools... asked them to have fun and get used to the medium.. I have lots of preparation to do for the coming sessions..:cry:.

Hi Cyanid!! Thanks for dropping in!

Hi Mu! Thanks for the kind words.. You are right... the kind of photorealism that we see now is awesome, but sometimes a bit too much... the realism of the ancient masters had something more than realism to it... thats what I want to explore!

Hey Magdalena! hahaha!!... you are always welcome to come visiting! Dont hit me though!
... Actually I never did any serious anatomical study at college.. Every body was going "modern"... I tried to do "modern", but I guess I didnt have it in me.. and I was too young to know that it was more than 60% hog-wash!.. That lead to some kind of an identity crisis... I got a pass because I had good grades in life-study and stuff(I was good at "copying").. and not because anybody liked my work... never did much sculpture after that.. tried various things... like design, printing, music, etc.... untill my mother saved me from going to pieces by getting me interested in computers and funded me for a course in multimedia... Anyways... I am glad about whatever I am doing now... whether digital or "hands on".. Its a gradual revival of something inside me that has survived all the neglect and disuse.

Hey Gunilla! Thanks!

Hi Razz! thanks, mate... yes, I will be sculpting a quite a bit in preparation for my teaching sessions in the coming three months... and I will be doing demos in class.(poor kids!)
Frontpage?... haha... lets see... I dont have much hope.

Johan! thanks buddy... This forum is such a treasure-trove of "Wow"s I can just hope and aspire to be a minor "Wow"!

Hey Serena!! thanks a lot!

Hi Vincent.. Thanks a lot! I will try out that pinch brush.


Update... Worked on the beard a little bit... Trying to give it that wind-blown look Glenn was talking about... Glenn, your comments are invaluable... the painting actually shows the beard catching wind!... Now the hair on the head needs quite a bit of work.

http://img258.imageshack.us/img258/8707/rubens21bh7.jpg

http://img239.imageshack.us/img239/3627/rubens22dc8.jpg

http://img127.imageshack.us/img127/3493/rubens23rk3.jpg

[anandpg]

Hi!
Update: started work on the kid(not that I am finished with the guy)... blocked with ZSpheres, cleaned up and posed in Maya.
http://img454.imageshack.us/img454/9085/rubens24nr7.jpg

http://img463.imageshack.us/img463/5756/rubens25ee6.jpg

[SpiritDreamer]

HEY...Anand....:bounce: :thumbsup:

Really enjoying what you did with the beard...Has that current of air flowing through it now...BEAUTIFUL JOB...:thumbsup:
The air/wind in that painting, is what makes it so dynamic...more so almost than the figures themselves...you can feel the wind echoed throughout the painting,..from the cloth, all the way down to the hair....it's what brings the painting to life, and instills it with all that energy....I think it is really fantastic that you are able to capture that same feeling in sculpture...WIND ENERGY..:bounce: :)

Seeing these step by steps are really a great thing for me...They are giving me a much greater understanding of Z BRUSH and 3D princaples and techniques...Really enjoying and learning from them.
THANKS ..Anand..:thumbsup: ....Really looking forward to more updates...:)
TAKE CARE
Glenn

[Thomasphoenix]

Great work Anand! cant wait to see the kid in full detail!Are you planning to texture this if you are do give me some tips on texturing.

Cheers

Siju

[se7en-z3r0]

I don't usually look at the 3D anatomy threads but this one just blew my mind : ) I even saved some of your michaelangelo studdies to my HD fro ref later on. I am a huge fan of his work no thanks to our darling Rebecca K. You have it nailed.

I have always heard that the best modellers are good 2D artists. Also, that physical sculpting is a really good basis for any 2D and 3D anatomy since it better helps you understand and in turn communicate the 3D forms. You seam to have all of these things working in you favor and it shows. Keep up the amazing work.

One suggestion on the Carvaggio head. Right now you have the pupils sculpted out in a concave fashion much like marble work. I would like to see what happens if they were convex like real eyes, with just slight indentations where the edges appear. It would make him look more real and less like stone. Just an idea, it is already great.

[NR43]

Man you make it look so easy :p
The child somehow looks really funny to me in lowpoly
Really looking forward to see how this fine piece of work evolves...

[anandpg]

Hey Glenn! Thanks for your support as always! By telling me about the wind, you just brought an entire new meaning to what I should be aiming at with this piece... I will try my very best to do justice to it.:scream:

Hi Siju! I plan to treat this piece rather like a sculpture, and try to render it with some kind of a marble feel.(and thus escape texturing... hehe..!:D)... I dont know... eventually, when I finish this thing(someday).. I may go ahead and do a textured version if I have nothing better to do at the time... hehe!!

Hi Shay! thanks for dropping in and for the kind words... the concave iris method generally works better for sculpture(I am aiming at sculpture-like treatment for this piece), because it gives a feeling of depth... and reads better even from a distance.. (you meant the Rubens head, right?) I will also post a version with the method you mentioned in the final.. see which one you like better.

Hey, Johan! Thanks, mate!... Hmm.. ya.. I am a bit hasty at the blocking stage... and pay by having to come back to low poly and set things right after I have subdivided, like 7 times!.. thank god, this is not marble!!:scream:

update: worked a bit more on the child... going really slow now... I will need more reference.
http://img47.imageshack.us/img47/4640/rubens26em9.jpg
http://img126.imageshack.us/img126/4197/rubens27zs8.jpg

[Rebeccak]

*siphons off some of anand's talent* :) - always such a pleasure to see your WIPs - I've no doubt this will turn out to be amazing...can't wait to see the outcome!

Cheers! :)

[mahmoudcg]

here comes another one, lookin gr8 so far :)

[FateBringer]

hey Anand

some really awesome work your doing on this one :buttrock:cann't wait to see it finished.
The lowpoly kid reminds me of the gingerbread man for some reason :)

Mark

[Intervain]

first of all thanks very much for the support, really appreciate it :love:

hehe - the kid looks really nice and squeeshie! I love the fat on the back - I think he needs a more breasty look still - he seems to have quite a lot of them folds on the painting :D Awesome job Anand - keep it coming!:thumbsup:

[Samanthie]

Anand, amazing work.:thumbsup: I love the baby and the old man's face is awesome. Thanks for your kind words too.:)

[Mu]

Every body was going "modern"... I tried to do "modern", but I guess I didnt have it in me..

LOL... thanks for the good laugh, man!

Yea, I guess you don't "have it". It's all too concrete, man, no fuzzy forms, no abstraction, no defying-the-tradition :D

in one word...: to good to be modern...:scream:

actually just wanted to pop in to tell you the kid rocks and I look forward to the combination of the two models...:)

[ha-dou-ken]

SWEET! Play by play! thanks Anand, this is a great behind the scenes look at your workflow.Thanks dude. I need to catch up with you guys lol.

But seriously, your OFDW should get special attention I think it's coming out marvelously:bounce:!

[anandpg]

Hey Rebecca! thanks a lot!

Hi Mahmoud! thanks, dude!

Hi Mark!.. thanks!

Thanks, Magdalena!

thanks, Samanthie!

Hey Mu! thanks, dude! I am totally into copying, right now... cant come up with anything of my own... guess it will take some time.. I would like to eventually find my own style or something... but that has to evolve by itself.. need to work a lot more! too little time! thinking of taking an early retirement and doing my own stuff! ...as soon as I find somebody to pay the bills! hahaha!!:scream:

Hey Isaias! thanks, mate! ... I need to work on the other stuff, as you said... thinking of painting something for OFDW21 this weekend.

update.. more work on the baby's face.. (used a few photos of my nephew for reference!:D) I will have to subdivide the head once more for details... but that, after finishing the body.
http://img522.imageshack.us/img522/2553/rubens28iu7.jpg

http://img517.imageshack.us/img517/7407/rubens29xf5.jpg

[Mu]

thinking of taking an early retirement and doing my own stuff! ...as soon as I find somebody to pay the bills! hahaha!!:scream:


Ah man! If you found that someone give me his phone number... I need to talk to him, too...:scream:

[michael-olszak]

Kick Ass models man. keep it up

[razz]

Oh my, man, that is amazing. Very impressive. As I've tried sculpting a little bit myself, I must say it looks impossibly amazing to me. I don't know how you do that, but you're skilled at it :thumbsup: Well, you knew that already. The model is looking perfect, couldn't say a bad word about it. I've no doubt this will become even more amazing.
Keep working, loads of inspiration here!

[SpiritDreamer]

HEY...Anand...:thumbsup:

Looks like your off to a great start with that child...nice proportions..:thumbsup:
Maybe just a little extra exageration in the outter curves of the child to keep the rythum, and the MOVEMENT it creates alive and in unison with the larger figure,..to where they BOTH relate together through thier curves as ONE....just a thought that might be of help ...don't know...:)
Speaking of help..LOL...:scream: ...HELP..
I just started a Z BRUSH head,..posted on last page in my thread.
I want to use the SNAKE HOOK BRUSH, and the other brushes that are in that top row of tools, to creat horns for the head.
Every time I pick that brush, or any of them for that matter, it says current tool is in edit mode, would you like to switch tools..I say OK,then I lose the ability to spin the head around as i'm working on it.
I quess the question is,..how do I use those tools/brushes, and at the same time keep the head in the 3d mode where I am able to spin it around as I work on it with the tools/brushes that are in the three rows of the tool bars...The head is created using the simple sphere, and is saved as a tool in the ztl mode I think it's called...I have looked at that dvd I have on Z BRUSH, over and over, but can't seem to find where he says how to use the brushes in the tool section, and keep the thing I am working on in the 3d mode at the same time...REALLY BEGINNING TO GET FRUSTRATING......need some ..HELP :banghead: ...:shrug:
TAKE CARE
Glenn

[Icey]

your wacom is working perfectly!! hehehe!
Great stuff!! The 3D part is great as always!
Cheers!!
Icey

[Corvax]

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[anandpg]

Hey Mu... haha! I'll sure let you know!:D

Hi Michael! thanks for dropping in!

Hi Glenn! I will try out your suggestions once I get both the figures together.(Hope my long-suffering little notebook doesnt die on me!... poor thing has endured a lot already!!)

Hey Icey! thanks a lot, man!

Hi Corvax! no problem! thanks for dropping by!

Finally got to try out my new Conte Crayons!... Glenn was right.. they are not exactly shades of grey, though thats what the writing on the pack says... they are shades of very desaturated brown and bue! I love them, what ever shade! It's strange... i dont find it easy to draw with them... takes a lot of getting used too... but still I so love the feel of it, I might get addicted!

http://img228.imageshack.us/img228/4784/dsc00041zy5.jpg

http://img134.imageshack.us/img134/8843/dsc00043qp5.jpg

http://img135.imageshack.us/img135/1038/dsc00044yj6.jpg

I tried a Burne Hogarth copy... its almost impossible to copy him due to the inherent dynamism of his drawings and the apparent speed and confidence with which he delivers his strokes.. Picked up his "dynamic figure drawing" and "dynamic anatomy" from the studio library.. I think they are essential reading for every artist.. the principles and methods he expounds in "dynamic figure drawing" are so priceless... and his method of teaching them is so straight forward and simple!

http://img92.imageshack.us/img92/3905/dsc00042ra1.jpg

[razz]

Well, it's just a warm grey if you ask me. Sorta like with markers, warm and cold greys, when cold is something like T (http://www.thegnomonworkshop.com/img/dev/screengrabs/mgo01/mgo01h.jpg)HI (http://www.thegnomonworkshop.com/img/dev/screengrabs/mgo01/mgo01h.jpg)S (http://www.thegnomonworkshop.com/img/dev/screengrabs/mgo01/mgo01h.jpg) and warm something like THIS (http://www.thegnomonworkshop.com/img/dev/screengrabs/sme02/sme02d.jpg). Or just a dull dull dull brown really :) It's just how you look at it.
Have I been gone for a long time or you've gotten so far with your drawing skills in such a little time? "Playing" with atmospheric perspective more would give an even better look.
Oh, and it's easy to get addicted to drawing/painting,yay :bounce:

[rasmusW]

hey anand!

-that childs model is really nice done, aswell are those last studies. -and yeah! hogarth is damn hard to copy..:)
keep those beauties coming.

-r

[anandpg]

Hey Razz! thanks for the links, buddy!... awesome stuff... makes me want to try marker!! ... will, one of these days.:scream: ... glad you think I have improved... been spending more time on sketching these days!

Hey Abyss! thanks a lot!

Didnt sculpt or paint a bit during the weekend.. except for the demo I gave my clay-modeling students.. Got inspired by Hogarth and tried "inventing" a few figures from imagination... A bit tricky... I spent more time erasing than drawing!!:D ..very enjoyable and rewarding, though!:)

http://img220.imageshack.us/img220/5182/scan0007wu1.jpg

http://img138.imageshack.us/img138/3531/scan0008wq7.jpg

http://img150.imageshack.us/img150/6249/scan0009kj7.jpg

http://img155.imageshack.us/img155/1397/scan0010bp4.jpg

http://img154.imageshack.us/img154/1615/scan0011xm1.jpg

http://img220.imageshack.us/img220/8418/scan0012ga9.jpg

[Cyanid]

wow very powerfull! great gestures. A bit overmusculated all, but I think thats what you were aiming for. I like the running one an the last one the most, you nailed the torso.

Keep it up, I like the 2D ones very much...somehow 3d doesnt say me anything, but thats personal and goes for all the 3d on this board (and out there).

[SpiritDreamer]

HEY...Anand...:bounce: :applause: :thumbsup:

Those conte crayon drawings/paintings..page #16 ......BEAUTIFUL..:thumbsup:
I'm glad you said that about Burne Hogarth..When I had him as a teacher, it totally blew me away, and still does, when I think about the speed, energy, and accuracy of his strokes...He would only look at the model that was in the class for a couple of seconds,..then wip out this beautiful life sized conti crayon drawing/painting of the model in just a couple of minutes...like I said...blew me away..:scream:
All came from the knowlage that he mastered and demonstrates in those books of his, which he gained from studying Michelangleo's methods of creating the human figure extensively. Michelangleo learned it from the Roman scultures, which in turn learned it from the Greeks...That knowlage in those books of his goes back a long long ways..:) which is what I have been trying to tell all of the people in this forum for two years now...those books and the knowlage in them, priceless...tried, and proven..:)
WAY TO GO ...Anand...:applause:
KEEP INSPIRED,...AND INSPIRING...:thumbsup:
TAKE CARE
Glenn

[Rebeccak]

Love the flow and movement in that last drawing. Hope to see more of these, you're really getting some nice expression in the figures. That's the thing I like about your 3D work as well, it's expressive as well as technically proficient - which is really rare now that I think about it with 3D, most of which I am wowed by technically, but not wowed by emotionally - very unique, something I think artists should strive for. :)

[killermachine]

i feel like a monkey looking at civilaztion.i wish i had got enough encouragement at home to venture in art field early.i wouldhav bin in a better position to commenton anythin what you made.its jus WOW:bounce: :thumbsup:

[kary]

Love your conte stuff, nice rendering and a great treatment of the subject.

The stuff from imagination is very solid. I've been trying to do some of that lately and appreciate all the more how hard it is, especially when you're applying anatomy -- almost feels like juggling :).

[Intervain]

Awesome sketches Anand! Love the dynamic ones a lot :bounce:

[CyborgJA]

Man you manage human bodies in an incredible way. SO fluid but also SO right so...realistic in few lines. Visiting your 3D it's always a pleasure.

Bravissimo.

[JoshT]

nice... :)