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RobertoOrtiz
09-22-2006, 06:31 PM
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"Between photo-enhancing techniques (http://tech.yahoo.com/blogs/devlin/4537;_ylt=Al4WaeayTbK_82tAB3SkVswYLpA5) and digital cameras like these HP models with "slimming features," (http://us.lrd.yahoo.com/_ylt=Agk23njDNq_widh7zqs42VoYLpA5/SIG=12teg3his/**http%3a//www.hp.com/united-states/consumer/digital_photography/tours/slimming/index_f.html) the incentive to lose weight for real is dwindling. Why bother if we can look good in pictures?
Newer cameras and photo-enhancing technology offer some cool ways to improve reality. But is that a good thing in a country where 65 percent of the adults are overweight or obese?

They say cameras add ten pounds, but HP digital cameras can help reverse that effect. The slimming feature, available on select HP digital camera models, is a subtle effect that can instantly trim off pounds from the subjects in your photos! trumpets HP about the seven models that offer the feature. Among them are the HP Photosmart R967 (http://tech.yahoo.com/pr/hp-photosmart-r967-digital-camera/1994106616;_ylt=ArfnGqORcFQsRJLdbwVhVRkYLpA5) and the HP Photosmart R927 (http://tech.yahoo.com/pr/hp-photosmart-r927-digital-camera/1993413254;_ylt=Avq8IwJTL0sr.49Hu2k2oD0YLpA5), which Robin wrote about (http://tech.yahoo.com/blog/raskin/34;_ylt=AlgEGul2jmwgC_okpcqv7rAYLpA5) in this lineup of digital cameras.

The slimming feature has the same effect on every subject, but if the subject is a person, the effect is subtle and leaves the person looking like the same person, HP says. And you can see a before and after version before opting for reality or slimmed-down reality"

>>LINK<< (http://tech.yahoo.com/blogs/devlin/4573)



-R

RobertoOrtiz
09-22-2006, 06:35 PM
We posted a thread called:
THE ETHICS OF PHOTO MANIPULATION: What is your stance? (http://forums.cgsociety.org/showthread.php?t=390981&highlight=ethics)

Consider this thread its follow up:

Quote:
"Did you catch the story about Katie Couric's slimmed-down look in an airbrushed photo (http://us.lrd.yahoo.com/_ylt=Al4WaeayTbK_82tAB3SkVswYLpA5/SIG=126vm6s75/**http%3a//www.nydailynews.com/news/gossip/story/447881p-377075c.html) in a CBS promotional magazine before she took the helm at CBS Evening News? Lots of folks were upset by it, and Katie and CBS execs mostly laughed it off.

But reader Lisa K. had a different take. The story inspired her to have a recent photo of her taken on the beach touched up to slim and shape her arms. She sent it off to PhotoChop.com (http://us.lrd.yahoo.com/_ylt=Agk23njDNq_widh7zqs42VoYLpA5/SIG=10uuokneb/**http%3a//www.photochop.com/) (screenshot), and for $5 she has a digitally enhanced photo more to her liking. She's gone back with some more business, once to remove a fresh scrape from her son's nose. "

>>LINK<< (http://tech.yahoo.com/blogs/devlin/4537)

-R

shy-guy
09-22-2006, 06:48 PM
Well... i think you have the cons right there; pretty soon people are gonna start having a virtual self totally different from the real one; how that may impact in a psychological level to those people, i dont know, but im sure there is an impact caused by the pressure to look perfect all the time.

Besides that, i supposed there will be a lot of people disappointed when they meet their cyber girlfriends and dates. :p

psyop63b
09-22-2006, 07:12 PM
$5 for photo retouching? Either someone came up with one badass photoshop filter, or there's a sweatshop somewhere filled with children chained up to wacom tablets.

Admittedly, I have retouched photos of myself (lighting, color correction and yes, removed some blemishes). The only moral dillema I would face is if my intent were to outright deceive, which it has not been. I haven't used my skills to slim myself down, alter features, or do anything of the sort.

My outlook is that "enhancing" is okay -- "altering" is at your own risk. You know, if that someone ever meets you face-to-face, they'll notice what "alterations" were made between the photo and the real thing.

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jscheel
09-22-2006, 07:53 PM
What about the HP KatieCouric 9000?

EDIT: Now everyone can look like an underfed supermodel!

JeroenDStout
09-22-2006, 08:09 PM
What an odd, odd feature. Looks quite developed, though, in the Flash video. More than just fiddling with the aspect ratio. I'm sure this feature will come in handy for online dating sites.

EDIT: Now everyone can look like an underfed supermodel!

That's such a cheap one :)

RuinedMessiah
09-22-2006, 08:21 PM
Match.com is sure to hype these as much as Dr. Phil

L.Rawlins
09-22-2006, 08:23 PM
This is disturbing.

archerx
09-22-2006, 08:25 PM
Myspace would have a lot more pretty people :D

PhantomDesign
09-22-2006, 09:08 PM
Now everyone chan have distorted pictures of themselves!

flipnap
09-22-2006, 09:16 PM
seriously, everyone tells me im too skinny.... so where my camera that adds a few pounds.. guess its back to weight milkshakes untill being "fat" is in style

Meshosh
09-22-2006, 09:19 PM
Now.... this is weird...

Some people on dating sites might start complainig about this feature when the take pictures of... huh... other body parts... :twisted: does it hava a "stretching feature" too? :)

twedzel
09-22-2006, 09:26 PM
There is nothing new in this story. In the past you'd use lighting, lenses and a good photographer who knows how to shoot a subject to make them look good. Then a bit of dark room technique or airbrushing to finish it off. Hell do you think in the olden days that artists whould not be inclined to improve upon the sitters appearance (probably at the sitters request)?

I love photo manipulation, I think it's cool as all hell. I would love to have a panel of experts some day discussing wether that photo or footage I took of a yeti, lochness monster, alien was real or fake. I guess I wouldn't be in fx work if this didn't have some sort of appeal to me. Is it ethical if a business uses it to enhance the appeal of its product? If I were to answer yes, then I'd have a problem with all advertising in general. Is it ethical to use in a court case? Obviously not. Is it ethical to to use to fool a panel of experts, probably not but it'd still be a hell of alot of harmless unethical fun.

durbdk
09-23-2006, 12:15 AM
This is just.....sad.


Do we really live in this society?

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John-Stetzer
09-23-2006, 07:13 AM
So you mean that I've been working these past 2 and a half years to lose weight for nothing?

(Shaking head) really don't like things like this; another example would be how the last set of pants I purchased were actually a size bigger than the listed size... some friends have mentioned similar experiences. Would personally rather know the truth than be lied to.

furre
09-23-2006, 05:39 PM
Would personally rather know the truth than be lied to.
And that, it seems, is where you differ from the average person.

Personally, I find the feature in question nifty and simultaneously depressing. Like sniper rifles that can take your arm off from a mile away. Nifty, and simultaneously depressing.

visionmaster2
09-24-2006, 01:05 AM
...strange world...


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DrFx
09-24-2006, 01:12 AM
But I like chubby chicks! I love to have something i can hold on to! Damn you, HP! Damn you straight to Hell!!!

I want a camera with embedded Photoshop, now that would make some cool effects!

Per-Anders
09-24-2006, 02:17 AM
I believe that scientifically speaking most heterosexual men in fact are genetically programmed to prefer women with a certain ammount of curves. Given this and the idea that treating humans as purely another animal therefore show and display is there for the act of deterrent or attraction you can logically extrapolate that the emaciation trend, herion chic, tomboy look and so on are not derived from the tastes of this segment of men, but from the remaining segment and from womens own tastes and discernment and peer pressure. Thus given the prevalance of these trends within society and fashions we can clearly say that the media in relation to womens identities, images and trends and the fashion world itself is largely controlled by these remaining societal segments, and therefore the logical conclusion from all this is that most heterosexual men in fact lack fashion sense... ...wait!... doh!

Seriously though, I wonder how well these cameras will sell, outside of the porn and dating industries that is.

L.Rawlins
09-24-2006, 02:41 AM
I believe that scientifically speaking most heterosexual men in fact are genetically programmed to prefer women with a certain ammount of curves. Given this and the idea that treating humans as purely another animal therefore show and display is there for the act of deterrent or attraction you can logically extrapolate that the emaciation trend, herion chic, tomboy look and so on are not derived from the tastes of this segment of men, but from the remaining segment and from womens own tastes and discernment and peer pressure. Thus given the prevalance of these trends within society and fashions we can clearly say that the media in relation to womens identities, images and trends and the fashion world itself is largely controlled by these remaining societal segments, and therefore the logical conclusion from all this is that most heterosexual men in fact lack fashion sense... ...wait!... doh!

I believe the scientific breakdown can be equated : 'oobie doobies ^ 2'. :rolleyes: :D

Icarus
09-24-2006, 06:58 AM
im kind of disturbed by this whole thing, having a slimming camera? uhhh alright. .

i wonder what wierd and wacky law suits can come out of this.

Cyborgguineapig
09-25-2006, 07:46 AM
This is just.....sad.


Do we really live in this society?



Yes, yes infact we do.

dunkelzahn
09-25-2006, 03:44 PM
Everybody of us has used Photoshop to retouch some red eyes, a pimple, or some color grading, because the light wasnīt perfect. But this slimming filter is just sooo sick. It just squeezes the frame, but the idea behind it, yuck!

However, I have to agree, chubby chicks can be sexier than some underweighted freak. Every art students learns that when drawing nude women:

Chubby Chicks= Lots of flowing curves, proportions come automatically:)
Underweighted woman= Lots of short edgey lines, proportions are hard to maintain. And you can see the frigging rip and hip bones:sad:

Luckily people over here arenīt either just plain overweight or gross fat. Letīs hope it stays that way...

Chris

Papa Lazarou
09-25-2006, 07:23 PM
I think it's a case of it will seem impressive at first, but then when everybody's doing it it'll get really easy to spot.

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