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Lurk
09-16-2006, 11:00 PM
I couldn't resist the temptation of joining in on the torso workshop so I decided to start a Sketchbook. Crit as much as you can and want, that's the one and only reason for me doing this.

Thanks in advance :)

Here's my first four:
http://img201.imageshack.us/img201/3109/200609161ud8.jpg
http://img291.imageshack.us/img291/1306/200609162ij4.jpg
http://img144.imageshack.us/img144/9734/200609163br5.jpg

More to come ^^

Lurk
09-17-2006, 11:43 AM
Another one :)

036:
MICHELANGELO Buonarroti
Study for Adam
c. 1510
Red chalk, 19,3 x 25,9 cm
British Museum, London

http://img171.imageshack.us/img171/5210/200609171iq0.jpg

Rebeccak
09-17-2006, 04:45 PM
I couldn't resist the temptation of joining in on the torso workshop so I decided to start a Sketchbook. Crit as much as you can and want, that's the one and only reason for me doing this.

Thanks in advance :)
Lurk, welcome to CGTalk and to the Anatomy Forum. :) You have a pleasant set of drawings here and I would enjoy hearing something about your art training and background. One thing I would suggest with your pieces is to really emphasize the twist of the figures by placing emphasis on the apexes, or highest points, of the key curves involved in the twist. Really think of major shapes and forms, and analyze the pose in terms of it's key actions. Usually a dynamic pose will have a small set of key curves that really determine it's tension. Try to determine what these are from the master works which you are copying.

I look forward to seeing much more of your work.

Cheers,

-Rebeccak

Lurk
09-17-2006, 09:24 PM
Hi Rebecca ^^

Thanks for your reply. As for background and stuff:
I'm an 18 years old guy from sweden. I drew quite a lot when I was a kid but I stopped when I was like 12-13 or something like that (I have no idea why) which must have been the single worst mistake I've done in my whole life (I curse myself every day :sad: ). Anyway, I got back into art four month ago, it involved my discovery of CA.org and some other stuff, and have been drawing like a maniac since then, trying to get better.

I have no history of art training or anything like that but I hope to get some, I'm still in high school though so it'll have to wait a while. I was hoping I could get some training around here instead. :)

Thanks a million for the crits, really awesome, I'll do my best to work on it. ^^

-Olle

Here's another two.

093:
Kneeling Nude Woman
c. 1518
Red chalk, stylus underdrawing on paper, 279 x 187 mm
National Gallery of Scotland, Edinburgh
http://img133.imageshack.us/img133/9125/200609172dz0.jpg

110:
Charon Ferrying the Shades
1735-40
Oil on canvas, 135 x 83 cm
Musée du Louvre, Paris
http://img133.imageshack.us/img133/4792/200609174cq9.jpg

Lurk
09-18-2006, 10:15 PM
Two more... :)

109:
Nude Viewed from Behind
1810s
Black chalk with white highlights on blue paper
Forsyth Wickes Museum of Fine Arts, Boston
http://img360.imageshack.us/img360/4669/200609181gj8.jpg

009:
MICHELANGELO Buonarroti
Christ on the Cross
c. 1541
Black and white chalk, 368 x 268 mm
British Museum, London
http://img233.imageshack.us/img233/4218/200609182se0.jpg

Rebeccak
09-18-2006, 11:04 PM
Lurk,

You have the beginnings of some really solid studies here. What I might recommend is drawing a bit more gesturally at first, lightly, to get the major feel of the pose as well as the details. I might also suggest varying the line width of the outline to express greater and lesser degrees of emphasis.

Cheers, :)

-Rebeccak

Lurk
09-19-2006, 10:07 PM
Rebecca,

This is awesome, you're getting me spot on in everything you say :P. I'm having quite a lot of trouble with gestures, gonna have to work on that. Nr. 54 below is my first try, obviously unfinished, but I wanted to post it before going into details and shading.

oh yes, line width too. I know nothing about the it really, sgonna have to study study study... *adds to the "Rebecca's words of wisdom-list"*

Thanks again Rebecca, you're awesome ^^

I'll post more tomorrow

-Olle

EDIT: Forgot to mention: 010 is just a quickie, less then 5 mins.



011:
MICHELANGELO Buonarroti
David
1504
Marble, height 434 cm
Galleria dell'Accademia, Florence
http://img214.imageshack.us/img214/8697/200609192rb1.jpg

010:
MICHELANGELO Buonarroti
Crouching Boy
1530-33
Marble, height: 54 cm
The Hermitage, St. Petersburg
http://img111.imageshack.us/img111/2909/200609191ko4.jpg

054:
Unfinished.
http://img508.imageshack.us/img508/9638/200609193oz9.jpg

Rebeccak
09-19-2006, 10:40 PM
054:
Unfinished.
http://img508.imageshack.us/img508/9638/200609193oz9.jpg

Lurk, thank you for the kind words - I'm glad to be of help. :)

This is a beautiful piece! The gesture is really quite lovely. I would encourage you to not work on this further, and to save it - then start over if you wish to do a more finished version from the same original.

Cheers, :)

-Rebeccak

Lurk
09-20-2006, 04:36 PM
This is a beautiful piece! The gesture is really quite lovely. I would encourage you to not work on this further, and to save it - then start over if you wish to do a more finished version from the same original.




Wow, you're too kind Rebecca. :) I'll just leave it as it is then.

Alright, more gestural stuff now, I really feel I need to work on that.



020:
MICHELANGELO Buonarroti
Ignudo
1511
Fresco
Cappella Sistina, Vatican
http://img62.imageshack.us/img62/4478/200609202yr5.jpg

091:
Nude Study
c. 1515
Red chalk over metal stylus, 410 x 281 mm
Graphische Sammlung Albertina, Vienna
http://img225.imageshack.us/img225/7914/200609201jn1.jpg

Rebeccak
09-21-2006, 04:51 AM
Lurk,

020 is lovely. On 091 I would suggest reevaluating the whole form - try to get the torso to work first, in terms of major curves only - and then worry about the swing and gesture of the appendages - the arms and legs.

Cheers,

-Rebeccak

mynti
09-21-2006, 07:46 PM
Wow, Lurk! The improvement is evident already. As soon as you moved into more loose gestures your works became much better.

I especially like 10, you kept it loose and allowed the form to emerge naturally from the paper. Really in the spirit of Michelangelo, there, I'm sure he would be happy!

Keep up the good work!
-Gracie

Lurk
09-22-2006, 10:50 PM
mynti: Thanks a lot Gracie. I'll keep at it. :)

Rebecca: *nods* I didn't have any success at all doing 91, didn't get any of me lines right at first try. I did another one, just the torso, a lot faster but not as cluttered as the last one. I think it got better but I'm still not very happy with it.

Gestures is crazy hard :P

091, try nr. 2:
http://img163.imageshack.us/img163/9627/200609211ge4.jpg

I'll do some new stuff tomorrow.

mynti
09-23-2006, 04:01 PM
Nice work on the gesture! If you want to do quick studies, try drawing the same pose in several different gesture drawings, a few times (try 5-10 studies of the same pose).

Each time you start over, you'll find stuff new that you'd overlooked in the previous attempt and you'll find that your last few attempts will be much better than the first attempts.

Cheers, can't wait to see more!
Gracie

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