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MoThBall
01-28-2003, 04:42 AM
My first Vidio Clip. 20 seconds 30fps and a Whopping 623MBs Big.
:buttrock:

Now This Is a slight problem.

This is useing the Quicktime format. And i know that the AVi is alot smaller. But you loose alot of detail.

Anyone know If C4D has some setting to Keep the size down. Otherwise i got to hunt down a Compresser for Videos. Anyone know of a Good one?? Preflably Free :cool:

Cheers,

Mark

VestanPance
01-28-2003, 04:56 AM
I use "Cleaner". I belive it may also have been called "Media Cleaner Pro" in prior versoins. Anyway it was bought by Discreet so I think you can find info there. It works great.


Yeah here ya go...
Cleaner 6 (http://www.discreet.com/products/cleaner/)

Crime101
01-28-2003, 06:22 AM
The best compression for quicktime that i have found in Cinema is called Cinepak. I did a 30 sec comercial for school with that compression and I think it turned out way smaller than that, can't remember the exact size though.

Bucko
01-28-2003, 07:08 AM
How to get small movies in QuickTime:
1. Buy QuickTime Pro from www.apple.com
2. Render individual numbered frames using whatever format you like. I use QuickTime JPEG with max quality.
3. When rendering is done*, open QuickTime player and choose File->Open image sequence, select the first frame of your rendered images, then choose the fps you want. Wait a while.
3. Choose File->Export movie. Choose format for export (Sorensen CODECs are the best I think), set fps to Best.
4. Wait for QuickTime toe xport the movie.
5. Tada! A small format QuickTime movie. You may want to change the settings and resave to see what effects on size/quality various settings have - this is easy as long as you still keep your rendered images.
*As images are saved during rendering you can actually make preview movies of the current rendered images while Cinema is still rendering.
Also note that saving the movie created from File->Open image sequence with dependencies checked will create a tiny movie file that references the rendered images. If you rerender your scene, the movie file will show the new images without reloading.

kiwi
01-28-2003, 08:53 AM
When I have some spare cash {like if } I am going to get a copy of Sorenson Squeeze for QT.It also comes with the Pro codec as well,but my main reason is I have seen a number of reviews where people have footage of around half a gig etc and with some tweaking with squeeze have gotten good quality footage at the other end of around 20 - 30 m compressed,straight up :)


Stu.

LucentDreams
01-28-2003, 09:02 AM
yes mothball I think your main problem lies in not doing more reserch, I suggest you go to a few website using yahoo or google and read up a bit on vidoec encoding. don't need to know everything about it, but you should learn some, the more you know the better you cn provide the job at hand.

Formats have nothing to do with size, the main three formats are mpeg, quicktime, and Audio Viceo Interlaced or AVI. THe three formats don't mean much more than that a format. Its the video codecs that matter, and they are quite flexible, mpeg 4, various Indeo, and a few other codecs are supported by both AVI and quicktime. Mpeg four also has its own format now called mp4, and is also supported in many proprietary formats like DivX, 3ivX and so on. While quicktime may not play a Divx file you can rename the extension to .mp4 and it will play as they are all following basic mpeg 4 ISO standard. I still reommend you use mpeg or sorenson as they are equally supported if not moreso and still provide brilliant wquality to size. Mpeg 4 may be better, but still not guaranteed to work on every platform.

Do some readin though thats my best advice, the size of your files mean you rendered a quicktime movie with uncompressed quality meaning perfect image insane size.

CosmicBear
01-28-2003, 10:31 AM
i just recently finished a cd-rom for school with about 80 minutes of video included.

for the compression i used mpeg4 (as it is included in quicktime 6) and the following settings:

size 400*300 (at the most. some widescreen-videos where 400*225)
25 fps
each 25 frame is keyframe
datarate 150 - 200 kbps
sound: 22,05 Hz, 16 bit, mono

the biggest file i have on the cd-rom is about 80 mbyte for a nine-minute-long video.

all the videos stream without any problems from cd. and exept for two moments, you don't see any compression artefacts or errors in the movies. and if i'm not totally mistaken, these two errors are my fault :)

so even if you want your movie to be bigger in size, i'm sure, you will do pretty good with these settings.

if you want to use the sorensen-codec be sure to use sorensen 3 instead of an older codec. the old once make your movies quite dark

MoThBall
01-28-2003, 11:01 PM
Mwhahahaha Victory!

Thancks guys for all the Ideas. I got that Size down heaps. But i agree that quicktime in the end is not as efficent as mp4.

anouther Day, Anouther lesson Learned. :thumbsup:

Cheers Guys from Down under.

:beer:

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