Sketchbook Thread of Salubri

[Cyanid]

good to see a new face here.
can't see your pictures though...red x...

[Rebeccak]

Salubri3i,

Welcome, I look forward to seeing your work. :)

Along with Cyanid, I can also not see your work. Can you please repost it?

If you could tell us something about your art training and background, that would be very useful. :)

Cheers,

-Rebeccak

[Salubri3i]

Thanks for visiting!

Art training and background okay... I don't know if this counts but when I was 10 I attended a series of art lessons every summer until I was about 14. It was taught by a proffessor in one of our universities(they have FA). The topics covered all traditional media with the exception of chalks and acryllic. We also had nude painting sessions in the upper class, back when you were already being taught how to use oils. As a parting gift on the last session he offered us a book on figure drawing which was done by his mentor who now lives in Germany. It was a good book. Some of the topics it covered were how to draw the head and how to draw the figure then there's also some lessons targeted on hands and feet, also drapery. (don't ask me what happened to it coz that gives way to a long sad story...). After the sad story that ended up in my book getting burned to cinders I stopped drawing and painting for about 13 years. There were some half hearted attempts in between but that's that. I got back into painting after seeing this super cool forum. Lots of inspiring people. I've been acquiring books since the begining of this year and am slowly getting back on my feet. Hopefully if it's not too late, maybe get into art school next year. *crosses fingers*

Here's a very rough grey scale of something I'm working on. I was doing the sketch but I'm having problems seeing if what I was doing was correct in form so I decided to shade it all around. It's straight off from a photo and I think the legs suffer from lens distortion. The problematic foreshortening on her right hand and the issues with the left shoulder are all my fault though. :D Maybe you guys can spot other issues... help me make it better. please? ;)

http://img165.imageshack.us/img165/5336/greyjz5.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

P.S. I moved my images to Esnips. Can someone say if the images are visible already? Thanks.

:wip:

[Rebeccak]

Salubri3i,

Thanks for the background info! :) That helps, but unfortunately, I still cannot see your images. You might try imageshack:

http://www.imageshack.us/

Cheers, :)

-Rebeccak

[Salubri3i]

Okay I moved them to imageshack. Can you check again?

thanks. :D

[Rebeccak]

Salubri3ia,

Great to finally see your work. :) Hope this paintover helps!


http://img451.imageshack.us/img451/8070/salubri3i01smallqv4.gif

I did some really simple edits to make the legs larger and slightly longer - and I moved them down quite a bit.

I would suggest working from dark to light when painting - even going overboard initially as I have done here. You want to reserve your whites for very small areas of brightest highlight.

This is obviously not a total paintover, just some suggestions for how you might try to move forward with your piece. :)

Cheers,

-Rebeccak

[Salubri3i]

wow. :eek:

thanks very much rebecca. the paint over and the tips are a great help. :bounce:

[Rebeccak]

Salubri3i,

No problem! Looking forward to your updates. :)

Cheers,

-Rebeccak

[Trunks]

Hi Salubr,
Great stuff you show here ... I am looking forward to see more of it :)

[Salubri3i]

http://img47.imageshack.us/img47/7978/greyoptimn8.jpg

Sorry for the insanely long time between updates. I only got the chance to work on this yesterday and decided to go as far as I can. Plenty of issues and I've had so much difficulty with the face. At any rate I'm stopping this but I'd appreciate crits from you guys since I'm certain to "fix" it before having it printed in full size. Thanks again folks. :thumbsup:

[ytresu]

Salubri3i: nice to look at the evolution of your work<>you are on the right side with the head and the body<>I think the hands are a little bit unfinished and the left arm too small respect to the body<>however the work is ok

[RhysyngSun]

Salubri3i, good work on the shading and a good sense of lighting.

As Rebeccak mentioned, her legs need to be a little longer. Also her lower leg may need to be thickened, because the size of her foot in proportion to it looks rather large. It could be that the foot is too large, but maybe its just me. :D

[Salubri3i]

thanks for the crits. i'll keep those in mind when i work on this piece again this weekend. :D

it's suffering a bit with regards to the perspective which i don't know how to fix. :sad:

[Salubri3i]

http://img227.imageshack.us/img227/2735/greyv300dpipostyj4.jpg

Sorry for the messy state. :shrug:

I tried adding some legnth to the body, the left arm and the legs(thickened the shin a bit also). I'll do the same for the right arm in the coming days. I was kinda thinkin the previous one looked like the head was a little too big in relation to the body so now I'm fixing up and re-rendering parts of it. So far I've passed thru the left arm but not the hand, some touch ups on the face and currently working on the whole torso.

I may proceed to color it up when it's all done since doing the greyscale is already giving me ideas about the details and the forms... more than my tiny ref pic can give. :D

thanks for looking. ;)

[Cavematty]

Hey man, great piece. The hair is awesome, and in general its really nice!
(I can never draw good breasts - I think its cos I like looking at them so much :P ) hahha.
anyways theres a coupel minor suggestions. Im reaching here but they might help.

Her eyes seem a teeny bit high in her head. I know we are looking up at it slightly, so maybe you could soften the jawline, so we can see under it all the way to the front? also if that is her ear poking thru her hair, then it should be pushed up by the head tilt too, meaning it would be slightly above the eyes?
And lastly i think the hand she is looking towards has a slightly too flat plane at the base of the thumb. Id add a tiny bit of depth to it thru shading. Its jus cos its so hard edged against the black it is drawing my eye i think.

I did a REEEL quick paintover (like 20 secs). I hope u dont find that rude, as im not better then u are, jus wanted to hint at what i meant. Its a shitty attempt but it might help.

http://www.photopia.co.nz/gallery/Fabio/pics/YMBS3RGHJ479eRw1.jpg





Thanks for stopping by my anatomy thread too man :)
This comunity jus gets better and better ;)
cool catcha


Heehee. I just noticed you're from the phillipines. My best friend in Primary school was too, and my new gf's ex bf is phillipino.... so i have mixed feelings :P hahha.
pointless comment but i thought id share ;)
peace

[SpiritDreamer]

Hi.....Ryan....:)

I like alot of things about that female figure you just posted... Technique ect.....very complex pose, with alot of
overlapping shapes, twist, and curves.
I think a book that will greatly benifit your work at this point, is DYNAMIC FIGURE DRAWING BY
BURNE HOGARTH....Can be bought on the internet...amazon .com..used is inexpensive.
That book will give you a greater insight on how to do complex figures, and will make your task
a lot more easier on future figures you do, for sure...:thumbsup:
Looking forward to seeing more of your work...:)
TAKE CARE
Glenn

[Salubri3i]

cavematty: i don't really mind the paintovers. i'm not that sensitive. :D i mean i am sensitive but not that much. :D besides i realize sometimes it's hard to illustrate what we mean by using words. we're artists after all... not poets and literary majors. :) thanks so much for the suggestions too. you know i've been really stumped on how to fix her face. my ref pic is from around 10 years ago... back when 640 x 480 was considered high resolution images. lol

you're from new zealand? i guess my people have been getting around. :D anyways i hope they treated you all right. we're supposed to be friendly corteous people. :D heck that's why toursts keep coming back. ;)

spirit dreamer: i wanted to do this piece mainly because how the torso looks. i thought that doing something that was twisting in that manner would be a challenge. i'm kinda hoping i didn't bite off more than i can chew. :D i will definitely look for that book. maybe it's even available locally. we have pretty good bookstores here... i think the discounts on art books might still be in place. i got myself a book... i think the title is "anatomy for the artist" but i'm kinda dissatisfied with it. thanks man. :)

here's where i'm currently at. i have yet to work on the hands and her right leg.

http://img153.imageshack.us/img153/381/greywpjpgbc3.jpg

[SpiritDreamer]

Hi...Ryan....:thumbsup:

I don't think you bit off more than you can chew...you seem to be correcting minor errors nicely as you go along....nice to see you taking it further by the way...:)
I am really enjoying all the subtle values you are creating,in the figure and the cloth...beautiful job on those values...:thumbsup:
If you get that book, I think you will like it...he had his own style of drawing that worked for him. I had him for a teacher years ago..the thing I learned the most from him, is the solid
principles of forshortening and creating unity of form with shadow and light ect. He had a great way of teaching,and demonstrating complex principles of figure drawing, and at the same time making the complex.. simple to grasp ...You will have to read his words first, to fully get the benifit of the lessons he demonstrates. If you just copy his drawings, without reading the words he has written next to the drawings, it will be a waste of time and effort, and in the end, you will only end up imatating his style, and will lose your own.
That is a really beautiful technique and style of painting // rendering that you have going on in that figure that you are working on by the way...really impressive...:applause:
Keep up the GREAT WORK...and keep posting...a lot of talented people in here, that will help you to take it even further..:) :thumbsup:

TAKE CARE
Glenn

[Rebeccak]

Salubri3i,

This is really looking gorgeous! :) The main thing I think is that her left arm should be significantly enlarged, which would require you to enlarge the canvas size to accomodate it's larger size, or else run the arm off of the page. Her left breast is looking slightly large (it's nearly the size of her face) ;) but apart from that I think your proportions are looking pretty good. I really like the softness of the light and think that with a few adjustments you would have a really nice finished piece on your hands. :)

[Salubri3i]

Salubri3i,

The main thing I think is that her left arm should be significantly enlarged, which would require you to enlarge the canvas size to accomodate it's larger size, or else run the arm off of the page.

Okay. I will extend it a bit more. The problem I'm having with the left arm is how to show the perspective correctly. she has it bent a little away from the viewer. I will extend the canvas. ;)


Her left breast is looking slightly large (it's nearly the size of her face) ;)

Oops. :D

Okay. I'll work on those areas. ;) I'm also trying to work on the face a bit more to get it to look right. There's something about it that looks weird right now. Fortunately Cavematty pointed the issues and I'm also seing the rest with regards to the facial features. Hopefully it'll all be done by tomorrow. Thanks Rebecca. :wavey:

[cok3]

Keep up the good works pare! Great improvements in your paintings!

[razz]

Hey, you've pushed the painting pretty far, but there's loads of more to work on, eh? I'll be happy to see that. This must have tought you a lot about values.

[Salubri3i]

<waves the magic wacom and yells "Ressurect-O Thread-O!" :D >

I know. I'm lazy. I'm trying to change. Promise. :D

http://img291.imageshack.us/img291/4051/reasketch4oe8.jpg

So here's what I'm working on for now. Critiques are encouraged and very much welcome. Particularly the hands and arms part. If someone can help me with the folds too that will also be great. I have no idea what I'm doing when it comes to clothes. :banghead:

[anandpg]

Hey Ryan! long time, no see!!? where have you been?

btw, beautiful drawing!:thumbsup:

[Salubri3i]

Hey Ryan! long time, no see!!? where have you been?

btw, beautiful drawing!:thumbsup:

burried under a ton of paper work. officemates have to search thru the paper and book stacks on my desk just to find me. :D

thanks! i'll try to update more often. try being the operative word. :D

[NR43]

nice thread you've got going here Salubri3iI also hope you will finish the nude painting :)

[Salubri3i]

yup. i will. :) i actually stopped working on that coz i got frustrated with the hands before i even got swamped at work. however, i managed to take appropriate reference pics a few days ago. i'll work on it after the current piece or if i manage to squeeze it in between.

man do i suck at painting hands and feet. bleah... :wise:

[NR43]

bah me too
I'm afraid the only way we can get better is to draw loads and loads of them...

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