First portrait painting

[GSmiley]

Your drawing is excellent, but I think it loses some of its beauty after the color is added. maybe more contrast in the skin tones would help. In the original drawing, it looks like the main light source is nearly directly straight on, so the skin that faces the light could be brighter. Also a little bit of shiny reflections of light on the skin, especially tip of the nose, would liven up the painting.

I think its coming along nicely, just keep at it!

[eishiya]

In the sketch, the mouth angle is different from the angle of the lines, so it looks a little weird.

As for the colors, I agree with GSmiley that the skin could use contrast. Just follow the tones and shading in your sketch, as it looks pretty good. Also, I recommend following the sketch pretty closely for now. In the colored version, the irises are different sizes but look okay in the sketch, so it seems you didn't really follow it.

[Gisaiagami]

I am trying to follow but changing for become more realistic. I study of colors and here a version goes is working.
It is made a mistake to change the sketch? How much the mouth I am having serious problems. As well as the distribution of some tones on the skin
Thank you angels for suportt
http://img118.imageshack.us/img118/8110/mulherbyricardoafrancoxl0.jpg

[frostblade]

Well I thought the sketch was very nice, but the colouring make it look so different. Your sketch it's so good I wanted to colour it too!

I'll show you my version but I'm not sure you want to see it or will it make you angry or something...since some people don't like that kind of help. But this is how I help...cause words are so vague when it comes to visual work.

It's not to tell you how you should colour or make her look nice etc... just another way to colour it...takes 30 mins.

http://img243.imageshack.us/img243/835/faceyh4.jpg

I put the colours I used at the top...and the face colour is result of blending those together etc with large brush and erasing bits here and there on layers. BG I used my old painting.

Good luck with your painting and learning more about colours.

[Iridyse]

Hi:)
Well first , I'd like to say I love the sketch! It's extremely expressive. It seems to have changed a lot in the painting though. Did you try setting your sketch layer to Multiply mode and painting on a filled layer below it? That will help you to maintain the form, more or less. In the painting, there's too much distance between the eyes (or rather her left eye is too away from the nose)

The light source seems to be a little problematic. The eyes show that it is on the left (our left) while in the sketch, the right side seems to be lit up more.Once you have the lightsource established, just paint the parts that are closer/higher as lighter (the cheeks, bridge of the nose etc) and the parts that recede/fall in the shaow area, dark. Also, it might be a good idea to paint the hair strands later. That way, you can concentrate on the face first.I like how the red looks( or maybe I'm just biased towards red hair, hehe), it makes the green in her eyes so much more intense.

If you're ok with it, I can do a paintover to show you :). Frostblade has already done a wonderful one though, so it might be unnecessary.
Good luck and have fun :)

[Shadowbrooke]

Hi Gislaine :) ( I hope I spelled it right!)

You're making good progress experimenting with the color sheme :thumbsup: Frostblade did an excellent paint-over, inspiring as always. I think it might help if you follow the sketch and add shadow where there are pencil-work was darker on the face. I actually had the same problem painting when my colored version looks different from the pencil work, so I learn lower the opacity of the sketch and paint-over the pencil lines to keep the character look consistent.

Keep going! :bounce:

[Gisaiagami]

Hi :)

Frostblade

Fist, i loved you paintover :thumbsup:
That is like i want to paint :wise:
I'll try inspired myself in your paintover for make mines.
Thank you very much for the help, and no way to me get angry if your example :)

Iridyse

Really, i was thinking it was different :rolleyes:
I'll try to remake and post progress in briefing.
Fell free if you want make a paintover on it too.
Thank you

kalendra

Yes, is Gislaine :)

Thank you angel ^^

I think the problem is the color skin tones.
I am trouble to make blending and give deeping to the face :(
Usually i notice a theory of colours for face. I tried to find a tutorial about this and I didn't
The Lynda's tutorial i couldn't learning to make.
I remake it. Thank you

[pap87]

Your original sketch looks so good! Clearly you are very comfortable with black and white. What if you actually start painting using just black and white and then add colour later?
It doesn't work for some people but for you I think it would be perfect.

Keep up the great work:thumbsup:!

[nuttz]

Good start. Portraits are a tough nut to crack. I agree with pap87, try starting with just black and white, then do colour overlays. One other thing to consider is lighting. You have a strong sense of light in the intial sketch, but you didn't bring it over to the colour image. It will make a huge differance.

[stuh505]

Gisaiagami,

It's shocking, really. Shocking and painful to look at, because your sketch is SO professional, so perfect...it shows such skill and talent and practice. It's hard to believe that the color drawing was done by the same person. Everything that was good in the sketch is lost in the color version. You must be very unfamiliar with the Wacom yet. Just try to get back those subtleties that give her face depth.

[Gisaiagami]

http://img226.imageshack.us/img226/9731/mulherbyricardoafrancocn7.jpgI am crazy
after long time painting and painting
my result is sad
I do not obtain to make this black and white method for to color later , and the image of speedpainting is very wonderfull but no I did not obtain if it wants to arrive close.
The nose is something that me leaves crazyand the eyes really do not leave: (What to make friends? It will be that I will not be able to paint? o.o

[TimonQ]

Perhaps you are getting lost within the thickness of the lines? Whether you paint to the edge of a line, or over/through a line can sometimes give you distorted results.
What I see as the main thing illustrating whatever the problem is, is look at the eyelashes of the latest painting, and look at the eyelashes of the drawing. The loss of the detail has resulted in the loss of form around the eye. Don't worry about using the linework as a crutch, it'll help progress your skills.

[Salubri3i]

don't be discouraged dude! you're a good artist. you're just having a hard time transitioning from traditional to digital media. i suggest learning the basics of photoshop(is this what you're using?) like color blending and stuff. If you do want an easier transition though, painter might be more friendly for you since it comes close to painting traditionally. It is expensive though.

try visiting this thread (http://forums.cgsociety.org/showthread.php?t=196480) for tutorials.

anyways just keep at it. you're doing fine.

[Gisaiagami]

Thank you for support
I tried painter. It me seemed strange the principle. I am having problem with colors. I studied very but I do not obtain to make something pleasant as all =/Eu I looked at link here but very of the tutorial ones that I followed they are of it. E exactly thus the result is different :shrug:

[Gisaiagami]

i remaiking the image
new wips
I tried “to block” as they make. Now I lose myself in the hour of the refinement. Therefore it does not leave well. Some tip? I do not want to change the face.
Thank you a lot

http://img75.imageshack.us/img75/7356/guerreira2lt4.th.jpg (http://img75.imageshack.us/my.php?image=guerreira2lt4.jpg)

http://img236.imageshack.us/img236/3723/guerreira3wn2.th.jpg (http://img236.imageshack.us/my.php?image=guerreira3wn2.jpg)

http://img207.imageshack.us/img207/7331/guerreira4vj3.th.jpg (http://img207.imageshack.us/my.php?image=guerreira4vj3.jpg)

[Shadowbrooke]

Hi Gislaine!

I'm glad you're not giving up :applause:

I see your steps there. Hm...Maybe you could try lower the opacity of the pencil layer and paint in the details (like eyes and brows, lips, etc..) on a different layer before let go of the pencil completely?! I dunno, my workflow has no logic so it's hard to give tips...:( The shadowing of the nose is looking good actually :thumbsup:

You're doing very well. Keep at it! :)

Brooke.

[Gisaiagami]

I made 3 layers Above all I am my pencil. In multiplying
Make the color basic for brush opacity 100%
Other layer all the other colors giving flicks with brush 40%
I am following a tutorial one of deviantart but it does not say nothing beyond block colors
The eye and nose I do not know as I go to make. I am looking at the tutorial one of lynda but I am with much difficulty to implement
The refinement I have only one idea to blending the colors.

[Gisaiagami]

http://img225.imageshack.us/img225/1285/guerreira2ey2.th.jpg (http://img225.imageshack.us/my.php?image=guerreira2ey2.jpg)

attempt to make the eye
something still me seems strange.

[LDiehl]

I admire your determination. Good sketch too, btw. Keep at it!

I just wanted to share the way I work when making line art into line-less form. I like to do as much shading as I can with the lineart still on top. I then protect the transparency of the line art and fill it with a non-black gradient (normally a red-brown or variation of the darkest shadows of the skin). I then merge the line layer directly with the color layer below it. After that is done, I start smoothing the layers together, keeping mindful of the "crispness" of the forms (ie not trying to muddy things). I then start to block in color over top of this now blended layer, normally at this point it's about bringing solidity to the form with shadows and highlights. This is blended into the rest and repeated and built-up until I get that solid "3d" feeling I'm looking for.

Hope this helps a bit.

[Thecla]

Maybe you can still preserve a bit of the line-art above it, I think it looks pretty cool that way :D
I liek the second image with the shading AND the line art..

[Salubri3i]

it's good to see you're still on this.

i think instead of removing the sketchlines all together you should keep it on and as Kelandra says just lower the opacity of the pencil layer so you can still use it as a guide. me personally i tend to do most of the blending with the skin before doing the features of the face (eyes & lips). only remove parts of the sketchlines when you've done the groundwork on that specific part.

[Gmax]

I have the exact same frustrations a you have regarding making a piece of lineart into a digital painting. I'm not even half way to where I want to be, but at least I've worked my way to some methodology that for the time being serves my wishes. I don't know if it is of any help to you, but here goes: I start by making the lineart of the character I want to draw on a separate, empty layer. If I have a pencil sketch, I scan it and trace it on a separate layer in Photoshop. Then I start painting the background colours on layer below, just blocking very roughly in the colours I want to dominate the painting, usually dark along the edges and more bright towards where I imagine the focal point will be. This ensures a certain degree of colour consistency, and that the colours don't collide, but work together. That background is basically my pallette. On a new separate layer still below the lineart layer, I start filling out the lineart with a medium dark colour picked from the background, onto which I apply brighter colour - also picked from the background - where the light falls. I simply find it easier to paint light onto shadow coloured areas than vice versa. When the lineart becomes more in the way of my painting than guiding it, I merge the lineart layer with the coloured layer, keeping the background and original sketch still separate. From here on I proceed working on the main character. This process is all about giving the 2D lineart a 3D shape, and builds up what I've drawn. Towards the end, deep shadows and bright highlights are applied.

My pieces are perhaps not state-of-the-art examples that this method is any guarantee for success, but at least it has helped my out of the initial quagmires. Good luck! :)

[Iridyse]

Hi Gislaine :)
I tried a paintover. I'll explain what I did in each step, hopefully it helps. Sorry about losing the character though, really tired/sleepy right now (so it's probably not the best time to paint or write this, haha). I tried to keep it more or less as it originally was, but failed :P

One (http://img242.imageshack.us/img242/6139/gig1ds9.jpg) :Ok, I used the painted version with the linework still on it(this one (http://img236.imageshack.us/my.php?image=guerreira3wn2.jpg)) . I colourpicked from within the image(the darker areas) and painted over the hatched lines. I'm mainly using the colours that you have used. I added a highlight on her nose to reminds me where the lightsource is :)

Two (http://img166.imageshack.us/img166/9176/gig2hs2.jpg) : Yea, red hair! One thing to remember is that almost every object is influenced by the colours(hue+value+intensity) around it. So, this holds true for skin too. When I introduce the bright red in the hair, I have to add that red in the shadows too. Added some highlights to the chin and eye.

Three (http://img166.imageshack.us/img166/2990/gig3gz6.jpg): Eep! Lots of changes here. I changed the angle of the mouth a bit (sorry!). Added a shadow below her nose and on her chin (using a combination of the background blue and the red of the hair). And a green iris!

Meh, a bad explanation, but I'm hoping the images help a bit. I think I'll take a nap and come back and try to be a little more lucid :)

I think the best thing to do right now, as the others have mentioned, is to not lose your lineart layer so soon. Keep gradually decreasing the opacity till your painted layer looks strong enough on its own. And your colours seem right, so no worries there. Just work on it some more :)

[Gisaiagami]

wowwwwwwww
i am crazy o.o
ok lets go:
it is my painting in ps: look the layers ^^
http://img220.imageshack.us/img220/580/capturaecraug7.th.jpg (http://img220.imageshack.us/my.php?image=capturaecraug7.jpg)
My linework in top opacity = 15%
I am work in layers below

I love all coments, and more more doubts :rolleyes:

The tecniques the gradients is interessant...but I tried to make but I was not successful =/
The other tecniques i used.
I am to try to guide me for this tutorial one.
http://www.deviantart.com/deviation/34603105/
I found the form as “to blocar” more easy. But to leave for the refinement has been a difficult bit.

Iridyse: love paintover

1-You it painted on of linework? Or in layer below separate?

2-This image already is direct with blending without block? In the situation that today is my drawing. It could blendar thus?

I still have problems for the nostrils mainly and this brightness in the nose. The eye also has been something laborious. For training Yesterday I was 8 hours in this image. unsatisfied e with the look.
Love the eye, the lips

Thank you a lot for great support friends :love:
I go to learn to paint well! :deal:

[Iridyse]

I painted over the linework, since the image was already flattened. Blocking in is very important( I just have a very haphazard way of working, sorry about that). The Deviantart tutorial is taking an age to load, so I have no idea what is going on there, haha. I think the main thing to keep in mind, is to visualise the face as a solid, 3D object(which is what blocking in does, makes the image seem more 3D). Remember, dark areas recede, light areas project. I think right now you could push the darks a little more(shadow areas around the eyes, nostrils, corners of the mouth and the line seperating the upper lip from the lower one etc). Use big brushes( don't get into details so soon). Also, it would be helpful to increase the dimensions of the image. The face at 100% is quite small!
Looking forward to updates :)

[Vyse-soa]

Sadly I can't give you any advise, I'm still a beginner
but maybe this tutorial by cyphrex gets you further.

http://direwire.com/images/longest_skintone_tutorial.jpg

[Gisaiagami]

the tutorial one is very good
I am to train to train
But the eye does not leave in agreement. The nose I find that he is reasonable but the colors are embaçadas. I increased the image. But now I am in a point of looking at some tutorial ones and without knowing really what to make =/

[Gisaiagami]

hi friends
http://img100.imageshack.us/img100/3705/eyevl6.jpg

I am trying to make the eye most realistic and more similar to mine sketech would also like opinions tried to follow the advice to hide more the shades and to give more emphasis in my brightness.

The problem is that he is well dark the eye and little life
Beyond one eve difference in the painting
http://img101.imageshack.us/img101/2460/guerreira2eg5.th.jpg (http://img101.imageshack.us/my.php?image=guerreira2eg5.jpg)

[Gisaiagami]

After add eye
=/
http://img212.imageshack.us/img212/9638/guerreira2rm9.jpg

[Iridyse]

Here's a link to Linda Bergkvist's eye tutorial, it should help a bit:)

http://features.cgsociety.org/story_custom.php?story_id=3165

[Gisaiagami]

Hi iridyse :)
I tried to follow but very you give I did not obtain to make. To start for the brightness in stage 3. And the white of the eye = /

[Gisaiagami]

ok, i am make in 1 hour the example of eye lynda tutorial
http://img235.imageshack.us/img235/8196/eyepg8.jpg

[Shadowbrooke]

Hi Gislaine!

I like the new eye you painted!! A definite improvement :) yay! Keep going :bounce:

[Vyse-soa]

Man, I bet you have just a really hard time... don't give up mate :scream:
Honestly I like the green eyes better, they're more expressive.

[frostblade]

Your problem is not color.

Your problem is technique.
Are you using a mouse or tablet?

The reason why you are not getting the results like in those tutorials is that you look like you are using a mouse and not a graphic tablet or you forgot to turn on the pen pressure settings and so on for your tablet.

There is a paint and erase technique.
http://img160.imageshack.us/img160/2039/techgw9.jpg

You paint the strokes on another layer and you erase the extra bits to make the shape better. This technique works for everything that can't be painted straight off. If you can't press the pen right to get the desire pen pressure then use that technique. This technique works best with layer masks. It allows you to undo on a different level because you can keep the most recent changes but go back to something maybe 1 hr ago or 2 days ago.


Also you need to use some other brushes to help you shade better. It's like an impressionist painting with digital art... each pixel is like a dot/mark that makes up the big picture so you have to really consider where are those dots/marks are going to go to make the big picture they way you want it.

[Gisaiagami]

hi

I use one tablet genius, 512 levels of pressure
no money for wacon
I am use th settings:

other dynamics (opacity and strenght) for pen pressure in 0%
I am trying to train but really nothing it is leaving as I see here in the guardianships or in forum. :( :( :(

the wip

http://img218.imageshack.us/img218/5442/guerreira2os5.th.jpg (http://img218.imageshack.us/my.php?image=guerreira2os5.jpg)

[Gisaiagami]

ok frostbabe and friends
it is my

this is an attempt to learn to use tablet correctly and to paint here as vocês. I have trained intensively and I feel myself lost for nothing to leave as I would like.

http://img88.imageshack.us/img88/9136/a7eu9.th.jpg (http://img88.imageshack.us/my.php?image=a7eu9.jpg)

I am blending 2 colors, and used brush soft edge and other dynamics enable

Divide the face:

http://img222.imageshack.us/img222/555/a1pm2.th.jpg (http://img222.imageshack.us/my.php?image=a1pm2.jpg)


Add color base:
http://img205.imageshack.us/img205/204/a2ds7.th.jpg (http://img205.imageshack.us/my.php?image=a2ds7.jpg)

Shadows: 25% opacity
http://img226.imageshack.us/img226/1607/a3vz2.th.jpg (http://img226.imageshack.us/my.php?image=a3vz2.jpg)

Light:
http://img223.imageshack.us/img223/2974/a4ef1.th.jpg (http://img223.imageshack.us/my.php?image=a4ef1.jpg)

My image:
http://img222.imageshack.us/img222/3309/a6ud3.th.jpg (http://img222.imageshack.us/my.php?image=a6ud3.jpg)

Which my error? If problem is technique then wants adquiriz it… Some things said in the test hour leaves completely different

Help:sad::sad:

[pap87]

Good start. Have you tried experimenting with the flow% for brushes? You'll find it much easier to create smooth shading even with a hard edged brush. Try putting the flow at below 5% and you can pretty much draw just as you would with a pencil.

I don't have a tablet so I don't know if the pen pressure for the flow works exactly the same.
Obviously your problem is not technique, the sketch says it all:love: I think what is holding you back is Photoshop (I assume that's what you're using), once you get your head around the tools and other stuff you'll have no problem. It's just a matter of time.

Hope I'm making sense to you:thumbsup:, and hope I helped.

[frostblade]

I have trouble seeing the pictures :(

[Gisaiagami]

pap, i make the flow in 100%
:shrug:
it is recommendable to have in another one?

Frost.the image host is imageshark
I put in my post:

http://img222.imageshack.us/img222/555/a1pm2.jpg
http://img205.imageshack.us/img205/204/a2ds7.jpg
http://img226.imageshack.us/img226/1607/a3vz2.jpg
http://img223.imageshack.us/img223/2974/a4ef1.jpg
http://img222.imageshack.us/img222/3309/a6ud3.jpg

A friend mine made an sketch of block but I am not certain on it = and refining…

[frostblade]

Those black lines you draw to mark the zones are very wobbly, maybe that affects your blending too. Since we don't use the same tablet I can't tell if it's your hand and eye problem or the tablet's fault because of magnetic fields created by mobile phones or speakers.

Do you zoom in to paint those? Zoom in view for painting helps.

You don't have to draw continuous lines to make a line; you can do small but accurate strokes to make them. It’s all about making the illusion.


The "paint and erase" technique helps you look accurate. So if you make wobbly strokes that are not the appropriate shape you erase some of it to look better.


Have you tried this brush? It's one of the default ones, I just use it with just opacity settings on, I use it on everything. btw flow setting on this for me is 48%, you can try lower or higher up to you on what works best for your personal technique.

http://img99.imageshack.us/img99/5444/brushte5.jpg

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