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jeremyengleman
08-31-2006, 10:57 PM
http://features.cgsociety.org/gallerycrits/163914/163914_1157065028_medium.jpg

Title: 3 Hour Female Figure Study, Goofing Around With Underpainting.
Name: Jeremy Engleman
Country: USA
Software: Maya, ZBrush

In this study I experimented with the idea of underpainting. I rendered several layers at different undersampled resolutions and comped them based on different criteria, one of which was luminosity. In this way, the lower resolutions showed through in the darks, similar to the idea of underpainting.
3 hours in zbrush and Maya.

Wiro
09-01-2006, 07:21 AM
That's an interesting take on NPR. I like the colours and the rough, painterly feel on first glance but I've not decided wether or not I like the squares. I'm sure non-CG people will like this approach more but apart from it somewhat looking like JPG artefacts I can't get past deliberately decreasing a picture's quality to achieve an effect, heh ;)

Wiro

RasoulValli
09-01-2006, 08:24 AM
I see yhe pic with very bad quality. but i love the modeling and rendering. good luck!

tomsejin
09-01-2006, 09:52 AM
could u pls explain the idea of underpainting so that we can try to understand what u were experimenting..

TwitchyHamster
09-01-2006, 03:06 PM
I agree...nice theory but when I first saw the image I also thought it was bad jpeg artifacting.

jeremyengleman
09-01-2006, 05:28 PM
Funnily enough, I used to experiment with bad jpeg artifacting. I'd compress and recompress and try to restore image data, then recompress that. Kind of like when you see a painting with cracks. Technically, it is a bad thing. But the cracking adds a history and depth to it. I wondered what kind of history and depth computer images might achieve.
"Uderpainting, also called dead coloring, is a lost art. What was once one of the most commonly used techniques in oil painting has fallen into almost total disuse among contemporary painters. From the beginnings of oil painting, underpainting was an essential stepping stone which permitted the painter to rapidly define composition, lighting and the atmosphere of his work. It was the painter's guide through an often long and laborious process that allowed him to have a clear vision of the overall sense of the painting although it was usually entirely covered by successive paint layers. Technically speaking, it is a relatively simple procedure that consists in painting a monochrome version of the final painting with tempera (used primarily by the Italians ) or oils."

http://vermeerspalette.20m.com/the_love_letter.jpg


Very often, this underpainting can be seen in the finished image where the paint is thin. So for me, underpainting represents the stages I go through when I am making these images. It could be the rough model, or it could be an undersampled, zoomed in version of the image, or it could be a snapshot of gather samples. Either way, it represents a snapshot of the image in progress, within the image itself. For me, it adds a depth and history and hand of the maker within the image.

-J.

Spigaou
09-02-2006, 09:04 AM
Hello Jeremy, a very intersting concept.
It's nice to see some artists go away from CG standart.:thumbsup:

take2
09-02-2006, 10:41 AM
Hello Jeremy, a very intersting concept.
It's nice to see some artists go away from CG standart.:thumbsup:


agreed.
i`m a big fan of your unique works. the only thing i don`t like are your colours but that`s a thing of taste.

rock on :thumbsup:

bluemagicuk
09-02-2006, 04:30 PM
I thought it was one of yours when i saw the thumbnail, its very nice and the underpaining technique which although intriguing is probably hiding some great modelling :P

hitomo
09-04-2006, 10:21 AM
why taking a finished piece of work and try to make it look like an WIP...
so underpainting is essentialy a work-in-progress state

and to see underpaintings in finished work is just not wanted...
you are bored to death, right... :D

greetz

jeremyengleman
09-04-2006, 07:04 PM
Hehe. You're looking at it the wrong way. It wasn't ever a finished work that I made to look like an unfinished one. I took the various stages that I went through when I was working on them, snapshot them, and layered them up. So it's almost like a timelapse of a WIP.

I really like to see underpainting. Many of Rembrandt's paintings let it show through, and for me, it the most dynamic part of a painting. Matter of opinion I guess.

But you just might be right about being boerd. With photorealism anyway.

hitomo
09-04-2006, 11:22 PM
It wasn't ever a finished work that I made to look like an unfinished one. I took the various stages that I went through when I was working on them, snapshot them, and layered them up. So it's almost like a timelapse of a WIP.

hm... okay, I understand that better now...:)

I like photorealism, it's so ... photorealistic
(still something worth to achieve)

greetz

israelyang
01-10-2007, 02:33 PM
i think your thesis works wonder in this image. the approach not only reveals the time lapse but level of detail and finish in different stages.

Oli4D
01-29-2007, 05:13 AM
really cool! I'm impressed!
How have you modeled textured AND rendered in 3 hours?
Is it really 3D, or is it 2.5D?
If 3D: Completley ZBrush out of ZSpeheres?
Im really impressed that you can get a complet body and in particular a face in 3h...

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