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mmiller
03-14-2003, 11:55 PM
Originally posted by FatJoe
Say.. anyone here got a good tutorial for me to make an airplane in 3dsmax?


Joe
I'm no 3D max expert.
But you might want to try the flight sim guys.

Neccesarily low poly, but I think they have some tutorials that might get you started.

http://www.swwisa.net/

http://www.il2center.com/Forums/

[DSmod]Tweak
03-15-2003, 12:19 AM
............I clicked I saw I'm speachless...:eek: :buttrock: :eek: :applause: :drool:

JerryB
03-15-2003, 01:01 AM
Originally posted by mmiller
I do think the aircraft looks a little too smooth and might benefit from the stringer effect Skyraider suggests.
might want to force it whether it is prototypical or not.

One thing to bear in mind is that the original image is 11"x8" - some details don't come out so well when everything is shrunk down to 640xetc. etc.. ;)

kiwi123
03-15-2003, 10:25 AM
Originally posted by mmiller

I must disagree with Skyraider on the background.
I think it looks great

Yeah I agree, it gives me the feeling something bad is going to happen to these guys in the plane.

Wiek

chrislomaka
03-16-2003, 08:42 PM
my little contribution to this thread...
Done quite a while ago, but still looks good:

chrislomaka
03-16-2003, 08:44 PM
actually, i forgot i did this one for work...

nose
03-16-2003, 08:53 PM
Hey cool! A Hawkeye. Do you have more pictures of that one? :)

chrislomaka
03-17-2003, 01:06 PM
actually, this came from a little animation of it rotating around 360degrees.... so yes, i have more images, but they all look about the same :(

giobianco
03-17-2003, 08:42 PM
Other screen of MACCHI.......

http://space.virgilio.it/giobianco1@tin.it/pictures/motore01.jpg

http://space.virgilio.it/giobianco1@tin.it/pictures/motore02.jpg

:) :) :) :) :)

facial
03-18-2003, 04:41 AM
All guys are genius, I am happy to see so cooool works here. Well done. :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

Skyraider3D
03-18-2003, 12:50 PM
Nice going Giobianco! The textures are nice... but... unrealistic. Rather than a delicate airplane your Macchi starts to look like a railway item. What is the kind of look your going for? Not "new" surely. But is it "used", "scrapped" or "left to rot since WW2"? In any case, except the latter maybe, the rust and overall look is a bit over the top.
Also the interior of Italian planes was zinc-chromate green. There seems to be no trace of that.
Anyway, it looks great so from artistical point of view I say :thumbsup:

:)



Originally posted by FatJoe
Say.. anyone here got a good tutorial for me to make an airplane in 3dsmax?
FatJoe, here's a few:
http://www.lemsko.de/3d/index.htm
http://www.freeflightdesign.com/tutorials.html
and my own humble addition: http://home.wanadoo.nl/r.j.o/skyraider/tut_texturemapping.htm

But to be honest, you're better off mastering a certain technique and then work with that. Then the subject you model isn't so relevant anymore.
I use two techniques for my models... surface tools and meshsmooth modelling.
For surface tools I strongly recommend the rhino head tutorial that ships with 3DSMAX 3/4/5
For meshsmooth, have a look here at this excellent car tut: http://www.wide3d.no/tutorials/Car_nurms_01.htm
Up until I came across this tut I didn't work with meshsmooth. Now I use it throughout!

Hope this helps!

kiwi123
03-18-2003, 12:55 PM
Yeah, would be nice to make a render of a plane that's totally decaying, rusting and rotting ! Covered with plants and stuff. Maybe I'll have a go with the Mig some day.....:)

giobianco1
03-19-2003, 08:06 AM
Thanks for the comments...... the texture is temporary.
don't know still I like him will complete......maybe under to the sea!!! excellent idea that of kiwi123.......

Excuse for my english :hmm: :hmm:

mmiller
03-19-2003, 11:20 AM
Hi
I decided to add some cockpit details to my Camel model.
Probably won't be very visible - but I know it's there :D
Mark
http://www.theaerodrome.com/forum/Attachments/camelcpitl.jpg

Skyraider3D
03-19-2003, 01:21 PM
That looks very sweet, Mark!! :thumbsup:
But you're married with children you said... where do you find the time?!?!? :shrug:

chrislomaka
03-19-2003, 01:53 PM
you *make* the time ;)

there's always a few hours after coming home, and my wife knows not to bug me during the weekend if i'm doing art. (it helps too if you work somewhere that you can do 3d in your spare time :D )

mmiller
03-19-2003, 01:55 PM
Originally posted by Skyraider3D
That looks very sweet, Mark!! :thumbsup:
But you're married with children you said... where do you find the time?!?!? :shrug:
I require very little sleep :cool:

Actualy
I've been poking at this thing for over a month.
The Vickers machine gun (in various configurations) was installed in a lot of AC. So i went to more pains than usual to make it as realistic and accurate as possible.

The Sopwith camel specific stuff I cranked out in 3 or 4 hours.
It's amazing how fast you can work when you sacrifice a little accuracy :)

Mark

mmiller
03-19-2003, 05:12 PM
Originally posted by chrislomaka
you *make* the time ;)

there's always a few hours after coming home, and my wife knows not to bug me during the weekend if i'm doing art. (it helps too if you work somewhere that you can do 3d in your spare time :D )

I find that it doesn't matter how much free time you have. You can always find time if you want it bad enough.

as for dealing with family.
The biggest hurdle was convincing them that the CG work i was doing was a valid form of self expression.
I come from a family in which everybody is in one way or another involved in the visual arts.
There attitude was ... If I'm applying paint to a canvas then fine.
But if I'm on a computer then I MUST be wasting time.:rolleyes:

It took a while, but i think they now see things more my way.
Making some money at it helps a lot too ;)
Mark

Nosalis
05-14-2003, 12:09 PM
Great works there. I thought I`ll put my Spitfire Mk1 here, but it is very much W.I.P. So I woun`t. It is low-poly model (>3500) done in 3DS MAX

Skyraider3D
05-14-2003, 08:49 PM
Nosalis, common, show us! :)



Nearly forgot about this massive post :)

O well, let me take the opportunity to add my latest piece to it as well...

http://home.wanadoo.nl/r.j.o/skyraider/temp/ca-15_cgtalk.jpg

It's got a thread of it's own at: http://www.cgtalk.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=60440

kiwi123
05-14-2003, 08:53 PM
He Ronnie,

Looks good as always !
:beer:
Still havan't had the energy to work on my MIG ever since I moved to the UK.

Greets,

Wiek

Mike Abbott
05-14-2003, 09:30 PM
Great work Ronnie - as always :)
I really like the style of this - the subtle colours work really well IMO.

If I was being really unreasonably picky... I wonder if the panel bump mapping is a bit heavy?

...but I'd be very happy if it was one of mine. Great job!

Mike A.

Danoku
05-14-2003, 11:18 PM
How the !@$#% did i miss this thread, to busy wid school i guess, brings tears to my eyes, so much beautiful work, and arai that lil bird is freaking awsome, thanks for the nudge Skyraider, working on a Gloster Gladiator from the Malta flight, should have up soon.

awsome stuff, sniff, just awsome.

DarkSkills
05-15-2003, 05:50 AM
http://www.rickwade.com/test/craft.jpg

Jones_Stork
05-15-2003, 08:57 AM
Theese were created for a commercial game project... Done with Maya 4.5
http://www.janusz.iav.pl/pictures/jsf6.jpg
http://www.janusz.iav.pl/pictures/jsf4.jpg
http://www.janusz.iav.pl/pictures/mig29_2.jpg

Mike Abbott
05-15-2003, 09:19 AM
These are clearly 'fly-by-(very long)-wire' versions ;)

Mike A.

fredconv
05-15-2003, 09:35 AM
really good craft there

but why at such an altitude are the gear open ??? O_o

just kidding

nice job anyway :)

cpiboontum
05-15-2003, 10:02 AM
Hi... Nice to see aircraft modeler. Here are some of my current WIP of Ratheon Preimer II business jet. I will also update on here later with an Airbus A340-300.

http://www.visual3dfx.com/Premier2_C.jpg

http://www.visual3dfx.com/CGTalk/Thai_BTR_A_01.jpg

http://www.visual3dfx.com/CGTalk/Thai_BTR_A_02.jpg

-VISuAL3DFX

cpiboontum
05-15-2003, 10:07 AM
Sorry guys!!! I posted an aircraft which is still WIP. I did not realize that this is a Gallery / Finish Work forum. Please remove it if it is inappropiate here. Thanks.

-VISuAL3DFX

Skyraider3D
05-15-2003, 10:29 AM
WIPs are fine with me :) Love all your stuff! Keep it coming!

Kiwi123, how's England treating you so far? :)

Mike, nice to hear from you again! Yeah bumpmapping may be a bit heavy, but it's what most people like to see! ;) I often get the advice to use bumpmaps on my models, and ALL have them already!! :surprised

cpiboontum
05-15-2003, 07:56 PM
Skyradider3D:

I have seen you works even before I joined CGTalk. I love you aircraft design. I think you are seeling some of your works on Turbosquid.com? Maybe but I am not sure. I seen so many aicraft works on there.

I actually just got back from England about 1 month ago. I went home to visit my parent for about 2 months. I usually go in the summer more, but this year I have a lot of work to do so, I am back here now in the US.

Where are you from? Post more of your work on your website. I have bookmarked it and always refer to it to see some new interesting things you do with your aircraft. Take care.

- VISuAL3DFX

blastzone
05-15-2003, 08:13 PM
hey lads im an aircraft fanatic and am trying to reach some kind of respectable level of 3D art. unfortunately the software im working in at the moment is blender and therefor very hard to produce anything respectable in. i just got lightwave 7.5 and i have just ordered the lightwave 7.5 primer and getting to grips with the lighwave moddeler.

so thats enough of that time to get to the point. i have made some aircraft models but they are rather poor. so in thelight of my new perchases i just have 1 question, do you guiys have any tips for someone aspiring to be a great aircraft moddler in the future.

and ur all your work is great and i have a great time looking over the amazing work you guys have produced i just hope one day i can make something roughly as good as the stuff on here

thanx for ur time

speedtiti
05-15-2003, 09:39 PM
A special aircraft i made.
(from the TV serie Thunderbirds)

http://www.zoo-logique.org/3D.Blender/galeries_automatiques/galeries/wip/speedtiti/08_Thunderbird%201.b.jpg

cpiboontum
05-15-2003, 09:54 PM
Hey.... really cool to see more aircraft enthusiast. Congratulation from switching over to Lightwave 7.5. I don't use 7.5 but I know it is a very capable modeler.

Not relly an advice but keep modeling. Eventually it will become a second nature to you. Use blueprints [3 views] helps make modeling crazy easily. One last thing; modeling takes time so take your time and enjoy it.

-VISuAL3DFX

Danoku
05-15-2003, 10:10 PM
Blastzone, i think most of the folks like arai and skyraider will agree, learn your subject in and out is the first part, the more you know the easier it is to figure out wehat you need to make, as far as lightwave goes, ron thornton used to have an excellent pair of tapes on how to dol space ships but it all applied to aircraft, now that is a lil bit olod but it still holds up, hope it helps.

blastzone
05-15-2003, 10:25 PM
thanx for the hellp guys

cpiboontum: cheers, one thing i have tryed some planes like i said in blender and i have used blueprints but the ones i used where very poor quality and painfully low detail levels do you know where i can find some really good blueprints where do u lot get urs?

Danoku: thanx do u know where i can get the tapes?

Danoku
05-15-2003, 10:33 PM
To rough stuff in i usually go to books i already have, the old brit series A/C in Profiles is awsome, Squadron signal puts out some nice stuff as well, the tapes i think are available through Destop Images bout $50 US a piece, but those two alone are the only ones i would recommend, there are also good links to tutorials on Flay.com. anyone else? i have been stuck in maya for the past year, well not stuck just appriciateing different approaches to things.

cpiboontum
05-15-2003, 10:55 PM
Blastzone:

Usually just years of subscribing and collecting aircraft magazine. I am mostly a large commerical and business aircraft kind of person. If you could get your hands on Janes All the World Aircraft it's got a great 3D views. Most of my modeling except for very few just rely on 3D views. I also tend to purchase a model itself also. This way along with 3D View you can also see how each parts are contour, how surfaces blend in together, and any other surface textures you cannot fully get from just a 3D drafting view of aircraft. Unlike cars, aircraft has stricter surface continuity making it quite a challenge to model.

If you have any commercial aircraft in mind [i.e. A340, B747, A320, DC-10, ERJ-140, Canadair 200, 700, and others], just drop me an e-mail and I see if I can send you via e-mail a large 3D view of any available commerical aircraft.

-VISuAL3DFX

timdawg
05-16-2003, 06:55 AM
Hi everyone,
Heres a RAAF AEW&C over Darwin
[airbourne early warning & control]

http://www.lucidrealms.com/images/aewc_01.jpg
http://www.lucidrealms.com/images/aewc_02.jpg

timdawg
05-16-2003, 07:38 AM
and heres some RAAF UCAVs in formation around the same area.
[unmanned combat air vehicles]

They wouldnt fly in formation, its just for show.
[btw, they are not ufos, they are real planes]:)


http://www.lucidrealms.com/images/ucav.jpg

cpiboontum
05-16-2003, 11:15 AM
Timdawg:

Nice work you on the modified 737-x Military aircraft. All of us in here got to push and submit more of an aircraft to Finish Work Gallery. There are just way few good aircraft 3D arts on here.

What is your main program for modeling these aircraft? Looking forward to seeing more of your works. :beer:

-VISuAL3DFX

killer1.0
05-16-2003, 12:48 PM
Nice work:buttrock:

Clave
05-16-2003, 01:17 PM
X-Wing next generation - very much WIP:

http://homepage.mac.com/clave/xwing1.jpg

Nice thread btw! :thumbsup:

chrislomaka
05-16-2003, 01:32 PM
blastzone- i found that there are usually some really nice 'blueprint' drawings included in the instructions of most aircraft plastic model kits. Plus you get the added benefit of being able to actually touch and feel the real shape. it's just a kinda expensive way to go about it though... :shrug:

timdawg
05-19-2003, 07:39 AM
Hi cpiboontum,

I use lightwave to model, photoshop and flash* for textures. Max to apply textures and Brazil for rendering.

*i use it to draw over the blueprints then output to ai format to photoshop for cleaner lines.

Seo2
05-19-2003, 12:06 PM
heres an assignment i had to do for my 3dmodeling class. this must have been i think week2.....hope u guys like it
:p

http://stu.aii.edu/~fak271/images/work/fly.jpg

http://stu.aii.edu/~fak271/images/work/fly2.jpg

http://stu.aii.edu/~fak271/images/work/front.jpg

http://stu.aii.edu/~fak271/images/work/side.jpg

http://stu.aii.edu/~fak271/images/work/top.jpg

mmiller
05-19-2003, 01:32 PM
Seo2
Perhaps your image would look better if the "Flying Machines" were not so randomly placed.

In the second image in particular the AC are so regular that it takes on the qualities of a pattern and you get little sense of depth.

also
You might want to have them flying in the same general direction.
Or, have the bulk of them flying in a direction and then have some turning off...
or something like that

as it is they all have different headings and it gives the image a confused aimless feel.

hope you were looking for critique ;)
keep at it
Mark

Seo2
05-20-2003, 06:38 AM
whoooo mmiller! thnx for the Critique! a little harsh :surprised , but thats exactly wat i need! ive been working on 3d stuff for about 6 to 8months and i cant seem to find people who can give me blunt advice! thnx again! Ill keep working on the composition issue and the blur the image has, c if it comes out any better!

-------------------------

other wip:

http://www.cgtalk.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=63492

http://www.cgtalk.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=62992

http://www.cgtalk.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=63033

mmiller
05-20-2003, 06:02 PM
Seo2
Sorry if I sounded harsh.
I figured that if you are taking classes in any visual art you would be well used to the concept of critique :thumbsup:
hope my comments will be useful to you

however
after looking over my comments I notice that they are not presented very well.
first I suggest that you are too random, and then I say too regular:rolleyes:
I suppose you figured out that I was addressing two seperate issues here but I definitly didn't communicate it very well.

also
It occured to me that your images remind me more of birds than of man-made aircraft. I think this is a function of that aimless feel i mentioned before but it is also supported somewhat by your model. If you wanted to go in that direction maybe you could enhance the organic feel of the model and textures.
Might be interesting.

just a thought
Mark

drbob
05-21-2003, 01:46 PM
Hello

I am new here
just a lurker
watching and learning

I would like to show some of my work
my models

here goes

http://www.geocities.com/st_engineer_bob/drbob/falcon_2.jpg

http://www.geocities.com/st_engineer_bob/drbob/falcons.jpg

drbob
05-21-2003, 01:51 PM
back with more aircraft

http://www.geocities.com/st_engineer_bob/drbob/Lockheedspair.jpg

http://www.geocities.com/st_engineer_bob/drbob/missiletest.jpg

http://www.geocities.com/st_engineer_bob/drbob/missiletest2.jpg

drbob
05-21-2003, 01:53 PM
I have some more

http://www.geocities.com/st_engineer_bob/drbob/scotters.jpg

http://www.geocities.com/st_engineer_bob/drbob/rollingin.jpg

drbob
05-21-2003, 01:55 PM
more models

http://www.geocities.com/st_engineer_bob/drbob/vid.jpg

http://www.geocities.com/st_engineer_bob/drbob/fishbed3.jpg

nose
05-21-2003, 02:24 PM
Damn, do you have a little too much spare time or something? ;)

starboard
05-21-2003, 02:40 PM
:beer:
hello to everyone here, and this is my first post.
su-27 made several months ago, modeled in rhino, rendered in max 4.

Skyraider3D
05-21-2003, 10:05 PM
Blastzone, drop me an e-mail and I'll give you a couple of links to aircraft blueprint websites. I know a couple...
My primary source for these - besides the internet - is aviation books. Got loads of 'em! :)
I never buy scale models for reference, by the way. Often they contain inaccuracies, and for the same money (or usually less!!!) you'll get a very nice monograph of your plane, including drawings, profiles and loads of photo references. Especially Polish and Czech monographs are really good and affordable. Much more value for money than scale models, if you ask me! Unless you like building them, of course! ;)


cpiboontum, thanks for your comments :)
I'm from The Netherlands, by the way, but working and living in England.
I've never sold a model on Turbo Squid. Never really considered it either.
I have a few models in the works at the moment, and they'll appear on my website in the next couple of weeks. So stay tuned! :D

Arxangel
05-22-2003, 05:09 AM
I hope this will display my image.
box modeling
Max 4




www.arxangel.net

kribz
05-22-2003, 10:03 AM
hi...

im not going to post any picture...simply because i havent made one of an airplane yet...i must say the majority of the pics are really good...nice work!!!..im going to make one myself someday...when i find the time...

to xtrm3d

ive seen your airplanes on another site...dont remember where...i must say i simply love those planes...i think its about the best work ive ever seen actually...regarding to what i like in design and texturing...keep it up:)

kiwi123
05-22-2003, 10:51 AM
I really like the warm lighting on the SU-27 !
:thumbsup:

fozz
05-24-2003, 11:59 AM
Ok, here's one of my planes too. A Mig29 Fulcrum.

http://hem.ektv.nu/~ekt003911/scramble.jpg

The Cross
05-24-2003, 12:34 PM
It's really not easy posting after some of you people.

http://www.geocities.com/tonyromany/JET.txt

FerdiWillemse
05-24-2003, 01:13 PM
Oh dear!
That Mig 29 is really really awesome! Is everything CG, even the background? What package did you use?
It's really cool!

fozz
05-24-2003, 01:17 PM
Thanks. :)
Yeah, it's all CG. Done with Lightwave and Photoshop.
Here's a wireframe of the scene if you wanna see.

http://hem.ektv.nu/~ekt003911/scramble-wire.jpg

starboard
05-24-2003, 01:44 PM
great job the mig 29s, especialy the enviroment.

kiwi123
05-24-2003, 02:39 PM
I like the fact that you used such desaturated colors on the surroundings ! Makes it look like a photograph. Very good job !
:thumbsup:

velinje
05-24-2003, 02:40 PM
Um, great work everybody!..

Um here's mine.. first ever work made for ingame use.. P51 Twin-Mustang, nothing compared to all other post.. but .. bah .. I'll do somthing better some other time, ok? ;) Atleast it's a plane.

http://www.redrival.com/Eradus/twin-mustang2.jpg

Atleast even if it was a fast made model, 1hour.. so far? It worked for a game test.. But as you can see, the pilot is pretty much in the wrong place (in the air between the cockpits) :D

http://www.redrival.com/Eradus/ingame.jpg

Um, yes it's a mod for Battlefield1942 http://platoon.nucleardays.com/

kiwi123
05-24-2003, 03:29 PM
He cool ! A plane for Battlefield 1942 !
So, is this for a mod ?

joconnell
05-24-2003, 03:32 PM
Might as well stick my heli in too - Still wip but anyway:

Arnold skylight render of full model:
http://www.joconnell.com/temp/kiowa_full.jpg

Scanline render of the first textured section:
http://www.joconnell.com/temp/kiowa_full_web.jpg

If anyone wants to give me any comments then I've got a wip thread here (http://www.cgtalk.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=64270) with the meshes and maps.

Cheers,

John

FerdiWillemse
05-24-2003, 03:35 PM
Nice textures & model! Awesome! It's a Kiowa isn't it?

joconnell
05-24-2003, 03:42 PM
Yeah certainly is although since the plans I'm making it from are a bit shit there might be a few inaccuracies - If anyone out there knows anything about these helis then I'd appreciate any info / plans you've got on them. Likewise if you wan the scanned blueprints gimme a shout :)

starboard
05-24-2003, 04:54 PM
does anybody make plugins for microsoft flight simulator?
i have seen a lot of great works on www.fsplanet.com

Jones_Stork
05-27-2003, 12:24 AM
This is my latest WIP test renders. It is a crashed Phantom F4 for a FPP game... Polycount limit is 1200 (1100 now, but I didn`t optimised it yet...)

Sorry, I had to remove my pictures due to my contract...

Krisc
05-27-2003, 02:05 AM
Here is one I am using for my game, Galactic Wars 2, it isnt done yet, but it gets turned into a small 2d image so detail is not necessary. Man you guys amaze me.

http://www.digitalexplosions.com/images/art/cgtalk/plane.jpg

timdawg
05-27-2003, 02:19 AM
hi to everyone :)
heres a RAAF F-111
http://www.lucidrealms.com/transfer/f111_01.jpg
http://www.lucidrealms.com/transfer/f111_02.jpg
http://www.lucidrealms.com/transfer/f111_03.jpg

PS: if you want to see a real life shot of this jet, follow this link (http://www.lucidrealms.com/transfer/f111_real.jpg)

timdawg
05-27-2003, 02:27 AM
and heres a toy helicopter too
http://www.lucidrealms.com/transfer/toy.jpg

timdawg
05-28-2003, 06:48 AM
http://www.lucidrealms.com/transfer/Boeing_737-300.jpg

Dob
05-28-2003, 11:49 AM
This is my A-10...
http://images.render.hu/img/5374.jpg

lebada
05-28-2003, 12:12 PM
http://www.turbosquid.com/Previews/Content_on_4_9_2003_16_43_12/phenix_perspective.jpgB46AFB08-94FB-45E9-8268483FE5A09C22.jpgLarge.jpg

I named it Phoenix..i didnt do much work on the glass..just left it black(UV MAP background)..262 poly's (above one)

http://www.3dsmax.reallyrules.com/max/explosion.jpg
I had to put that in..was my last work for Intro to 3ds max course"...and i got an A..so i guess its good enough...probably my best SFX...

Zephirus
05-28-2003, 10:01 PM
This is an space craft i made this weekend.

These are temporary textures until I get the motivation to make my own :)

http://members.fortunecity.com/zephirus/lightning.ship.jpg

boxcrash
05-29-2003, 12:15 AM
Holy...........

some nice work here. Arai, you stuff is freaking amazing!!
Detail is astounding and great textures. What kind of poly count on that Helicopter??
I know it is high which is fine, just curious how high.:)

Skyraider, I love your stuff to and the e-Light plug-in also, you rock.:buttrock: :)

Dob
05-29-2003, 10:42 AM
This airplane is a concept plane. Not real, but i think it can fly...

http://images.render.hu/img/4330.jpg

Skyraider3D
05-31-2003, 02:10 AM
Dob, nice cartoony render of your "Me 609". Looks like you'll have to find another number for your plane though, as the Me 609 was a real project and looked like this:

http://www.luft46.com/mess/3bm609.jpg
from: http://www.luft46.com/mess/me609.html

The highest number ever assigned to a German aicraft in WW2 was 635, so if you have a fantasy plane, you can give it a higher number and always be "safe" ;)

O one thing... please try and find another host for your images. It took over an hour to download this one and the A-10 one (which is very nice too, though not too accurate in shape).


PS. To the rest: apologies for the boring number stuff!
:rolleyes:

Dob
06-03-2003, 06:54 AM
Skyraider..
I dont know about the real 609.. sorry.. i just choosed a number. :beer:

stinger
06-06-2003, 11:50 AM
Here are my 3D J-7E fighers. :)

http://www.chinavfx.com/bbs/attachments/200306/06191301-stinger_j7_mountain.jpg
http://icax.cn/ut/attach/2003/03/06/430362-twin-j7e-embed.jpg
http://icax.cn/ut/attach/2003/03/06/430365-J-7_sunset-1-embed.jpg
http://icax.cn/ut/attach/2003/03/06/430370-J-7_sunset-2-embed.jpg
http://icax.cn/ut/attach/2003/03/06/430359-j7-bluesky-twin-embed.jpg

stinger
06-06-2003, 12:00 PM
It's the paint scheme for Chinese Airforce 81 Aerobatic Team's J-7EB. Drawn by Photoshop&Coreldraw.
http://www.chinavfx.com/bbs/attachments/200306/06191810-stinger_j7_81_new.jpg

stinger
06-06-2003, 12:02 PM
Current WIP: Chinese J-10

http://www.chinavfx.com/bbs/attachments/200305/27122845-10-fr-16.jpg

xeNusion
06-06-2003, 12:55 PM
http://www.xenusion.com/pics/laststand.jpg

i just felt forced to post one of my cheap tries while looking at all those pics here.
lots of things who could be improved but it was my first try on such things so no reason to play around with it some more :hmm:

Skyraider3D
06-06-2003, 07:04 PM
Whoah Stinger! :eek: That is stunning! :thumbsup:
I really love the realistic style! Top quality work!!!

xeNusion, nice'n'violent painting you got there! :) How did you make it? I like the detail on the scenery. I always hate doing scenery myself, hehe! :p

Good idea actually... everybody posted 3D work so far, but paintings are very welcome too.

Here's a painting I did a long long time ago when I was 17. After that I was hooked to the computer. I still consider picking up painting again. Not sure if I should, though...

http://home.wanadoo.nl/r.j.o/skyraider/temp/pzl37.jpg

supaflai
06-06-2003, 11:28 PM
Great thread - lots of good work here.

Here's a helicopter I've worked on some - still a long way from done. (sky and ground are just for testing) Please crit...

http://www22.brinkster.com/travn/misc/up.jpg

arai
06-07-2003, 01:33 AM
i have them in other threads I think, but heres to help keep the aircraft thread alive


sorry about the size


http://www.firedragon.com/~lwg3d/wip/2003/05/29-253882.jpg

http://www.firedragon.com/~lwg3d/wip/2003/05/27-69382.jpg

http://www.firedragon.com/~lwg3d/wip/2003/05/27-69371.jpg

Skyraider3D
06-07-2003, 11:39 AM
Great stuff as always, Arai! Now stick a pilot in the helo!! ;) :p

giobianco
06-10-2003, 08:52 PM
ACH..!! :surprised :eek: :eek:
How much excellent jobs.....goob all..!!

:applause: :applause: :applause:

Giobianco :wip:

Rei Ayanami
06-10-2003, 09:02 PM
hi, i wana know if you know any good blueprints, i want to do a AH64 but i cant find any. If you have any modern ones ill be happy tho.

timdawg
06-11-2003, 12:31 AM
:buttrock: all sweet stuff! keep it comin :cool:

xynaria
06-11-2003, 01:24 AM
Originally posted by Rei Ayanami
hi, i wana know if you know any good blueprints, i want to do a AH64 but i cant find any. If you have any modern ones ill be happy tho.


http://www.suurland.com/


though the Apache is almost to cg planes what the Audi TT is to cars so might be better to look at other possibilties. :)

Emberghost
06-11-2003, 02:08 AM
This is my first, sorta cartoonish.....

Skyraider3D
06-11-2003, 11:51 PM
Originally posted by Rei Ayanami
hi, i wana know if you know any good blueprints, i want to do a AH64 but i cant find any. If you have any modern ones ill be happy tho.

Check your e-mail :)
I sent you three links to good drawings.

iBlue
06-12-2003, 12:05 AM
hey, better late then never!

Check it out (http://images.deviantart.com/large/indyart/3d/EasterEgg-01.jpg)


:bounce:

JerryB
06-26-2003, 11:43 PM
Here's one of my latest pieces:

http://www.btinternet.com/~jj_b/vaw/images/mig3b.jpg

Skyraider3D
06-26-2003, 11:55 PM
Luvly :)

Good to see you haven't forgotten about this thread!
I like the gunpodded MiG on your website too!

mmiller
06-27-2003, 12:25 AM
Hi Jerry
Very nice.
The texture and lighting on the forward fuse is particularly attractive.

One crit if you don't mind:
I think it would be better if you rotated the view a little so that the rear of the wing did not match up with the front of the rudder.
One of those nasty optical things that it is usualy best to avoid.

I didn't even notice it at first, but now I can't stop looking at it.

Still a great looking image though
Mark

Skyraider3D
06-27-2003, 12:30 AM
Mark, it's just like you read my thoughts. I didnt write it in my reply, but I indeed like the texture on the nose a lot, and also I am a bit bothered by the fluent line between wingtim and vertical tail leading edge. It makes the leading edge look kind of hollow, while it should be (and is!) perfectly straight.

PS. Perhaps add a wingman to the image, flying a bit higher. Would make it more interesting perhaps?

JerryB
06-27-2003, 12:36 AM
I think I'll leave it as it is ;) I like those connecting lines of the different shapes. I thought of adding a wingman, but this may be too much like a P-400 image I have in the works :D

timdawg
06-27-2003, 04:47 AM
Hi Guys,
Heres a RAAF Global Hawk - [its kind of like a satellite]
http://www.lucidrealms.com/transfer/Global_Hawk_prototype_15.jpg
http://www.lucidrealms.com/transfer/Global_Hawk_prototype_04.jpg

Idi
06-27-2003, 08:01 AM
Howdi guys
More a car guy myself but thought I'd give this thread a quick
look at. Very nice work here.

later

Skyraider3D
07-03-2003, 01:21 AM
I thought I might as well stick my new image in here:

http://home.wanadoo.nl/r.j.o/skyraider/temp/ca-15_aircombat_cgtalk.jpg

Or look at it in it's own thread here: http://www.cgtalk.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=73095

Izu
07-05-2003, 04:52 AM
ooooh..i wanna join the fun....even though this is a wip... :D

http://daax.splicewarestudios.com/spacefx/1/testrender77.jpg

sorry for the high rez...but if ur like me..u wont mind it too much ;)

thx1138
07-05-2003, 08:30 AM
Wip or not, it looks absolutely stunning. Very nice work :thumbsup:

I think you found a good combination of an organic and a more straight edge technical look.

-Grtz

Skyraider3D
07-07-2003, 09:09 PM
I second that! It will look mind-blowing with some wicked textures! :D
Stunning detail!

Lary
07-07-2003, 09:57 PM
My 3d aircraft___F15 Eagle
f15 (http://www.cgtalk.com/attachment.php?s=&postid=696971)

izmal
07-08-2003, 04:02 AM
my last 2 years work...made from 3d max R2.
*yeah..yeah..it's been a while..
sea king and a stealth.
http://www.angelfire.com/ex/izmalsk8/images/aircraftizmal.jpg

summeralive
07-08-2003, 09:22 AM
well thats good... try something else! :rolleyes:

izmal
07-08-2003, 12:09 PM
but,now i'm equipt with max 4 and brazil...soon.
but personally..i like swirly-chicken wip:wip: and Skyraider3D's work...you are good in this area(aircraft)
*in fact...i like most of the pic/work..posted here.good job guys!
a clap to all of you...
:applause:

mmiller
07-09-2003, 04:38 PM
Swirly-chicken
Your space/plane thing is a very impressive piece of work.

a couple of observations:
the bump between the cockpit and the air intake looks to me to be a little "contrived". I think it might look better if you smoothed this out a little, or perhaps re-thought the way the cockpit fairs into the fuse.
And it might look cool if that air intake stuck out a little more.
as opposed to conforming to the overall shape of the fuse.

of course these suggestions are all based on this one view and I might have a different opinion if I looked at it from a different angle. ;)

are you thinking of the wings as being articulated?

Have you considered landing gear?
Given the configuration I would imagine it would have a pretty fast landing speed.

well... just some ideas
it looks great just the way it is :thumbsup:
Mark

blumikus
07-09-2003, 05:15 PM
Ok, this is my little Jet. :cool:



http://www.andymon.org/3d/jpg/A-310k.jpg (http://www.andymon.org/3d/jpg/A-310.jpg)
click me...

fabmedia
07-09-2003, 11:20 PM
ah, here's one for the books... my version of a personal transport vehicle.

Arlen

undoz
07-10-2003, 12:26 AM
here it is my sea king

http://www.vi2.com/getFile/205479.jpg

fabmedia
07-10-2003, 01:39 AM
At least that Sea King looks like it runs. Our Canadian Forces Sea Kings are always breaking down or falling off our ships. Looks great!

=)

Arlen

PS I like our Military, used to be infantry.

MadHamish
07-10-2003, 01:57 AM
undoz - one word, Awesome! :)

JerryB
08-07-2003, 12:04 PM
Here's another one of my new pieces:

http://www.btinternet.com/~jj_b/vaw/images/Ki44s.jpg

neu
08-07-2003, 12:47 PM
Here's my almost finished aircraft. It's not an actual plane (as you all know that ;) but it's my conecpt for a VTOL mid sized transporter. If I'll have time I'll finish it with different versions (I plan a prototype and a gunship version for it.

http://giraf.elte.hu/~neutron/3d/neu/portfolio/braziltest_2.jpg

Greetings, neu
WEB: www.neu.cjb.net

STRAT
08-07-2003, 01:00 PM
not 3d (just dont get any free time) but some acrylic and pencil sketches i did a couple years back -

http://www.nikclark.com/strat/plane1.jpg

http://www.nikclark.com/strat/plane2.jpg

http://www.nikclark.com/strat/plane3.jpg

Raventengu
08-07-2003, 02:05 PM
http://www.skypoint.com/~nei01881/Images/P40EWater.jpg :thumbsup:
P 40 E...Over troubled water....Storm rolling in..

Ac0rN
08-07-2003, 03:01 PM
fabmedia , cool style , I really like it :thumbsup:

nose
08-07-2003, 03:35 PM
Originally posted by Raventengu
http://www.skypoint.com/~nei01881/Images/P40EWater.jpg :thumbsup:
P 40 E...Over troubled water....Storm rolling in..

Wow! Is that water modelled too, or is it a photo?

brianellebracht
08-07-2003, 03:41 PM
looks like the water and clouds are fluid effects? maya 5? dnt?
Brian

Raventengu
08-07-2003, 05:04 PM
Originally posted by nose
Wow! Is that water modelled too, or is it a photo?

Its Maya 5 ....It's like magic:buttrock:

fabmedia
08-07-2003, 05:04 PM
Thanks AcOrn. Much appreciated. It was one of those things that I wondered what my little guy Spaceman Zot would drive.

http://www.cgtalk.com/attachment.php?s=&postid=705769


Arlen

Skyraider3D
08-07-2003, 09:04 PM
Good to see this thread still lives :)
Jerry great work! Show your Ki-27s here too. That one's your best, IMO!!

Fabmedia: very cute :) I like it!

Raventengu, very nice waves indeed!

STRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAT, nice to see you here! When are you gonna do some 3D planes? ;)
I like your sketches a lot!

Neu, nice design!!




I've just posted my latest work here: http://www.cgtalk.com/showthread.php?s=&postid=755300#post755300
Or click the thumbnail:

http://home.wanadoo.nl/r.j.o/skyraider/Sk14/Sk14_render01_cgtalk_thumb.jpg (http://www.cgtalk.com/showthread.php?s=&postid=755300#post755300)

I hope you like it!

Mint_Sauce
08-07-2003, 09:33 PM
Saw this thread and don't normally post but thought I would. Some of the work on here is truly awesome :buttrock: Here's mine maybe the worst plane here (apart from that one with the block and plank through it) :D Not textured yet, no idea how to :D

Rafale:

http://homepage.ntlworld.com/henley.bailey/3D/rafale.jpg

fabmedia
08-07-2003, 11:29 PM
Mint_Sauce ( I like that one )...

You're plane looks good. It appears that you have the necessary detail to pull off a great piece. When I started to surface things with detail I was completely overwhelmed. I didn't understand UVs, and thought that the Atlas method what a joke if not impossible, but then I started to think and realized that you have to look at how you are going to surface your object as you build it.

I use Lightwave to do all of my 3d work and I like the program because it allows me to do somethings that others ( I believe ) can't. So please correct me if I'm wrong. For instance, you can take your mesh, create a morph, unweld the polys, and adjust everything so that it all lines up on one axis. In my case, I always align everything on the Z-axis. You then create a UV map based on that morph (on the Z-axis), revert you object to it's original position, merge the points, and then delete the morph. So now you have a UV map laid out the way you want it to.

But looking at the possibility of you not using lightwave, then what I would do is UV map the wings from both the top and the bottom. The fusilage (sp?) from the sides (including the tail), and so on.

Like I said it was a tad overwhelming for me the first time around, but that how I looked at mapping Spaceman Zot, and a couple of other projects that I created.

Thanks Skyraider for the compliment.

Cheers!
Arlen

Mint_Sauce
08-07-2003, 11:40 PM
wow, thanks for the cool reply fabmedia! I'll give it a go soon, i'm going to practice some more on some simple objects first and build up the complexity until I know what i'm doing. :) I did texture a coke can and managed to pull that off after a few problems but I rekon im on teh right path. Be sure that when I get round to texturing my Rafale I'll post it up here! :D

:beer:

Skyraider3D
08-07-2003, 11:58 PM
Mint_Sauce, please have a look at my website. I have a tutorial about texturing aircraft there. It's fairly basic but will give you a good start :)
http://tutorials.skyraider3d.com

Mint_Sauce
08-08-2003, 04:50 PM
Thanks Skyraider3D! I'll definatly be using your tutorial, I just read through it and it looks good and is explained really well, tops. Maybe i'll start texturing tonight! :buttrock: :beer: :applause:

Skyraider3D
08-24-2003, 04:53 PM
Just to make sure people don't forget to posts their latest works here... ;)

Here's a quick side profile I made of my latest model:

http://home.wanadoo.nl/r.j.o/skyraider/Sk14/Sk14_profile.jpg

The full render can be found here: http://www.cgtalk.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=80469&perpage=15&pagenumber=1

MiGa
08-24-2003, 05:34 PM
The pics are so great! So much detail.

Skyraider3D: Hope you are going to write the tutorial about "creating an aicraft using Surface Tools". This would be awesome!

:thumbsup:

Skyraider3D
08-24-2003, 06:16 PM
Thanks MiGa! I hate to disappoint you though, but the chance I'll do that tutorial is as slim as ever. The reason is that I'm nor using surface tools anymore myself. It took me a few years to convert, but I'm polymodelling (meshsmooth) my models nowadays!
It was actually this tutorial that converted me: http://www.wide3d.no/tutorials/Car_nurms_01.htm

Also, MAX comes with a great surface tools tutorial already (the rhino head one) that basically teaches you all you need to know about splinecages and such.

But who knows... maybe one day... In the meantime have a good look at this little animation. It should give you some clues on how I used to make my aircraft models with surface tools:

http://home.wanadoo.nl/r.j.o/skyraider/tutorials/yak-9d.gif

I hope it's helpful in a way... :)

Skyraider3D
08-25-2003, 10:17 AM
Guys, just a word of warning...
It seems the Sobig.F virus that's been raging over the globe the past week is also using my e-mail address to disguise itself! I got an e-mail from myself this morning, containing this virus!
I'm not infected myself, the virus is just grabbing my mail address from the occasional 3D website where it's published. For example I also keep getting mails from neil @soulburn3d.com and surely he ain't infected either.
So in any case, if you get a suspicious e-mail with attachment from me, don't open it as I did not send it!

Dzignguy
08-25-2003, 11:56 AM
totally awsome stuff!!

I'm a huge fan of your work! I have started doing aircraft myself, Lockheed L-649 Constellation, and am amazed at how tight your work looks...... I also know that your texture work is every bit as good as your modeling.

I watch you put out model after model while I am still working on my first project........Oh well, I just keep on plugging on. One big favor, could you post a wireframe of that view. I probably pick up more from observing those wires than I do from the actual tutorials. Again, GREAT WORK!

klepkes
08-25-2003, 02:27 PM
:drool: great stuff, here's my contribution.
http://picserver.student.utwente.nl/getpicture.php?id=286369
http://picserver.student.utwente.nl/getpicture.php?id=286356

ittou
08-25-2003, 02:50 PM
Everyone's work is good.
It is very helpful.
This is F/A-22.
http://namiheix.hp.infoseek.co.jp/images/f22x2.jpg

Su-35 is contributed in this place of a link.
http://www.cgtalk.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=82314&highlight=Su35

:beer:

nose
08-25-2003, 09:34 PM
Originally posted by klepkes
:drool: great stuff, here's my contribution.
http://picserver.student.utwente.nl/getpicture.php?id=286369
http://picserver.student.utwente.nl/getpicture.php?id=286356
Mooie Huey hoor, maar moet dat water niet wat bewegen als ie er zo laag overheen vliegt?

Lem
08-26-2003, 12:40 PM
Wow,
a friend pointed me to this thread. Great models, renderings and paintings

http://www.lemsko.de/3d/P51/p51dwallpaper.jpg

Both models are game models for Warbirds, a multiplayer game i worked on for the last 2 years.

Lem

Skyraider3D
08-26-2003, 01:04 PM
Hi Lem, good to see you here too! :beer:

Ittou, your F-2 in the post you linked is very nice. I like seeing lesser-known birds (even though the F-2 is pretty close to an F-16! :D)

Klepkes, I've seen your helicopter scene before somewhere. I really like it! Reminds me a bit of scale modelling dioramas.



Seems people enjoy profile "drawings", here's a quick one I did of my CA-15 'Kangaroo' model:
http://home.wanadoo.nl/r.j.o/skyraider/gallery/ca-15_3.jpg (http://home.wanadoo.nl/r.j.o/skyraider/ca-15_3.htm)
(excuse the background. That's just to fit it in with my website ;))

WQP
08-26-2003, 01:14 PM
Originally posted by Skyraider3D
Just to make sure people don't forget to posts their latest works here... ;)

Here's a quick side profile I made of my latest model:

http://home.wanadoo.nl/r.j.o/skyraider/Sk14/Sk14_profile.jpg

The full render can be found here: http://www.cgtalk.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=80469&perpage=15&pagenumber=1

Hey! No fair posting paintings! Seriously though, amazing 3D work!

klepkes
08-26-2003, 01:26 PM
hi nose;dat water zou inderdaad moeten weggeduwd worden,
zodat de schaduw van de heli beweegt over de golven, maar de displacement texture vergde een te hoge subdivision om een beeld te renderen binnen aanvaardbare tijdspanne.


skyraider; i posted my heuy too the newtek gallery some time ago, i tried too make it look real but kame up with this dioramalook i think the water is the bigest problem

Strezz
08-26-2003, 06:55 PM
@Olsthoorn

Hey...

Nice to see your work's out in the open again.. :) Any new stuff comming soon?

Cheers

Rasmus "StreZZ" nielsen

dlayman
08-26-2003, 07:37 PM
My version of a UH-60 Blackhawk

dlayman
08-26-2003, 07:42 PM
This is a render from the top presp. Trying to make it look as real as possible.:beer:

nose
08-27-2003, 03:17 PM
Originally posted by klepkes
hi nose;dat water zou inderdaad moeten weggeduwd worden,
zodat de schaduw van de heli beweegt over de golven, maar de displacement texture vergde een te hoge subdivision om een beeld te renderen binnen aanvaardbare tijdspanne.

Aha. I see :)

3dflasher
08-27-2003, 05:45 PM
This is a shot of the project Im working on now. I work for a company doing CBT's on the V22 Osprey for the U.S. Marines. This is my rebuilt model that I did. The texture is a collaborative effort between me and my colleague Jeremy Correl. Rendered with V-ray free.

http://www.aldenfilion.com/v22_still.jpg
Click here if pic doesnt show. (http://www.aldenfilion.com/v22_still.jpg)

http://www.aldenfilion.com/v22_flying_retouch.jpg
Click here if pic doesnt show. (http://www.aldenfilion.com/v22_flying_retouch.jpg)

nose
08-28-2003, 01:28 PM
Originally posted by 3dflasher
This is a shot of the project Im working on now. I work for a company doing CBT's on the V22 Osprey for the U.S. Marines.
Sounds cool, but what is a CBT ? :blush:

3dflasher
08-28-2003, 02:46 PM
CBT is just a fancy way of saying "Computer Based Training" The military is all about acronyms whenever they can use them :) We basically do the training from like begining to end. From the materials it takes to actually build it to to all the procedures it takes to fly and maintain it. The Military isnt using it just yet. They are still working out all the paper work and stuff, but it is going to replace the CH-53 (I think). It's extremely fast and will be very usefull for the military.

Lee3dee
08-28-2003, 08:46 PM
I'm working on the same contract as 3dflasher, here's my version of the v22 Osprey while I was rendering a scene.

Using Windows Paint 5.0 (build 2195) and alot of frustration!

http://www.lee3dee.com/contents/wip/canvas/v22.jpg

3dflasher
08-29-2003, 01:27 AM
Ahhh the ol' mspaint v22....Hirigashi flexing the skills again. Sometimes I feel like I cant keep up:beer:. I never saw the testicle head guy at the bottom. Definately a nice touch. See you tommorrow back at the grind.

JerryB
09-02-2003, 11:10 PM
Here's my latest piece:

http://www.btinternet.com/~jj_b/vaw/images/Ki61s.jpg

ittou
09-03-2003, 02:18 AM
UHO! nice type3(san-shiki) HIEN!:drool:

Danoku
09-03-2003, 07:26 AM
Its a bird, its a folgore badabing its a tony, j/k very nice piece, would like to se a little more dynamic backdrop, something to give it more of a sense of place and make it a lil more dynamic, my grain of salt.

nice

Skyraider3D
09-03-2003, 09:15 AM
I see you're on a Japanese tour, Jerry! And I like it! Great stuff!!! :thumbsup:

stinger
09-03-2003, 09:54 AM
3dflasher

You made the CBT for V22? Cool! I love the V22 very much, especially the beautiful profile and the big blades. I have the CBT of B737/747, but I can only fly the aircrafts in computer (using MS Flightsimulator 2002/2004).

Your model is very accurate, but the motion blur should be better. I think the aircraft in your last pic should have stronger highlight.

JerryB
09-03-2003, 11:44 AM
Originally posted by Danoku
Its a bird, its a folgore badabing its a tony, j/k very nice piece, would like to se a little more dynamic backdrop, something to give it more of a sense of place and make it a lil more dynamic, my grain of salt.

One thing to bear in mind is that the original image is 11x7" (or thereabouts) and so the muted jungle backdrop doesn't come across so well when the image is shrunk down ;) But nevertheless I'd be interested to hear what suggestions you may have WRT making it more 'dynamic'.

Zanith
09-03-2003, 05:17 PM
Oh damn! This is sweet!! Great motion and texture.

Danoku
09-03-2003, 10:03 PM
Looked at this one originally on a 15' monitor at my soon to be father in laws, looking at it on a 21' at home and i can make out the jungle below, my apologies but the detail in the jungle below didnt come through before, and that is what i meant by sense of place, and in my opinion, it makes it more dynamic showing that relationship between a/c and envirnoment. My apologies i shouldnt have commented until i saw everything on the good machine. Great piece.

Obizzz
09-03-2003, 10:10 PM
hey Jerry how about some hi res renderings or wireframes for a change ;)

love your art though and have since i found it back when flying European Air War and came across your squad website.

JerryB
09-03-2003, 10:36 PM
Danoku - no worries :thumbsup:

Obizzz - how do you mean, 'hi res'? I think that would go beyond the posting restrictions here ;) As for wireframes, there's not much to see - my models are very simple. I like an easy life :D

Skyraider3D
09-03-2003, 11:50 PM
Jerry, show us a cropped close-up then ;)

Lem
09-04-2003, 12:59 AM
Nice,
my favourite japanese fighter. Like the Macchi it shows how a 109 should look if you dont let tasteless german designers on it ;)

Lem

Ganimed
09-04-2003, 01:51 AM
This thread is amazing.

There are so much talented peoples here.
Great stuff and exellent work.

regards

Ganimed

Shadow_545
09-04-2003, 02:11 AM
Man there is some great stuff in this thread, I especially love looking through it because I'm a huge World War 2 buff.

I wanted to come in real quick and say that if you need alot of good reference pics for world war 2 planes, I found a book in Barnes and Noble for $20 in the bargain bin, it was orginally $120 and was printed in Italy. A very awsome and beautiful book. It has almost all of the planes from WW2 and every other page has a full page with a top, side, and front picture of a plane. A great buy in my opinion, its called "Complete Guide to World War 2 Combat Aircraft"

Just thought someone might like to know ;)


Clay

Marsel Khadiyev
09-04-2003, 02:17 AM
Here's my first aircraft model ever (Mig-21). Sorry for bad quality, but this was done way back in 1998-1999 and I was just beginning to learn Max.

http://www.ibmr.net/misc/mig_1999.jpg

Cheers.

Marsel

JerryB
09-04-2003, 10:23 AM
Originally posted by Skyraider3D
Jerry, show us a cropped close-up then ;)

Ok - here you go ;) :

http://www.btinternet.com/~jj_b/vaw/images/frontpic3.jpg

TheRow
09-04-2003, 12:09 PM
Ok only one thing to do... :drool:
ok this means it's back to the school for me.. or I could try and see if I can make something that will be good enough to be posted..

just one more time.. :drool:

mmiller
09-04-2003, 01:57 PM
Hi
on the subject of reference

I have 2 books published by Squadron/Signal pubs:
Aerodata International - U.S. Navy Carrier Bombers of WW2
containing: TBD Devastator, SBD Dauntless, SB2C Helldiver,
TBF/TBM Avenger
and
Aerodata International - Fighters of WW2
containing: Fw 190A, Spit Mk1 & 2, P51D, Bf109E, Hurricane Mk1, P-47D

There are comprehensive plans provided for each aircraft that look to me to be extremly good (including x-sections).
But I'm not exactly an expert on WW2 AC.
Can somebody tell me if these plans are accurate?

btw - nice work Jerry - as usual ;)
Mark

JerryB
09-04-2003, 02:52 PM
IMHO, the best reference books on various aircraft are made in Japan (http://www.hlj.com/cgi-perl/hljlist.cgi?Category=BooBooAir&Dis=2) or Eastern Europe (http://aj-press.home.pl/main_euro.htm) . They often have alot more detail than their Western counterparts. Okay, the text inside may not be in English (but some have English text), but they're often of better quality than, say, books by Squadron/Signal (S/S)/ S/S books are good, but are better as a photo reference, espcially the 'In Action' series.

That said, any plans that have good cross-sections and detailed views are valuable in any language ;)

Kozhe
09-04-2003, 03:23 PM
JerryB you are great! :thumbsup:

Do you make the aiecraft in 3d or do you paint all the scene in 2d?

JerryB
09-04-2003, 05:48 PM
Thanks Kozhe :thumbsup: The model is 3D, and sometimes the background has some basic 3D elements. The 3D work and textures make up about 50% of the process involved in an image, the other 50% being done in Photoshop.

Skyraider3D
09-04-2003, 08:01 PM
Jerry, looks good... Closer! :D


Lem, show us your Ki-61!! ;) Perhaps the interactive 3D model?


Marsel, looks more like a MiG-29 to me :)


Concerning references... I love Russian and Japanese stuff. The drawings are second to none! For German aircraft though, I perfer German books - and not the popular ones. My favotire series is Luftfahrt International. They have absolutely stunning stuff. Just they're from the 1970s and very hard to get.

JerryB
09-04-2003, 09:05 PM
Originally posted by Skyraider3D
Jerry, looks good... Closer! :D

Lol - if you want to see it any closer you'll have to buy the print. One day that may be a possiblity ;)

Lem
09-05-2003, 10:35 AM
Hehe Sky,
cant show the Shockwave model, its corrupt and i dont have the zip file from you anymore. Maybe you might still have it on your HDD?

I hope it isnt your rendering, its so long ago i gave you the Ki to make the shockwave model for me ;)

http://www.lemsko.de/3d/KI61/ki61.jpg

Lem

Strob
09-07-2003, 09:49 AM
Here is my aircraft (kind of):

http://www.strob.net/spgm/gal/3D/John_Smith_017_zeppelin.jpg

JerryB
09-07-2003, 03:09 PM
Here's another new one from me:

http://www.btinternet.com/~jj_b/vaw/images/FR6.jpg

Obizzz
09-07-2003, 04:13 PM
great Jerry! I'd have to say it's one of your best, that metal texture is nice!

TBKoen
09-07-2003, 05:28 PM
here is my f-16 with the original dutch print
http://www.indigosite.nl/tenzc/newf-16.jpg

nose
09-07-2003, 05:36 PM
Originally posted by TBKoen
here is my f-16 with the original dutch print
http://www.indigosite.nl/tenzc/newf-16.jpg
Hey, there's only one with that color scheme! I see 3 :eek:

TBKoen
09-07-2003, 05:39 PM
woulda been awesome if duplicating was so easy in real life :rolleyes:

Skyraider3D
09-07-2003, 06:42 PM
Wowowow! Call the newspapers! :p Jerry made a modern jet!! :D
Very nice model, mate!! :thumbsup:



Mooie ef-zestien, Koen! Can you show it too while doing an air show performance? (and without clones ;))

JerryB
09-07-2003, 07:37 PM
Lol - well, the MiG-23MLD on my site is more modern than that Lightning... ;)

Skyraider3D
09-07-2003, 08:19 PM
Doh! Forgotten about that one! :rolleyes: :blush:

stickman
09-08-2003, 01:24 AM
I really love Peoples model. It reminds me of a Manta Ray, sleek and elegant!

Stormy151
09-08-2003, 03:25 AM
Actually, this is my first posts with pics of my work on CGtalk. Be gentle...LOL

This is a WIP model of a F-86E Sabre. I was messing around trying to make a bare metal panel texture, and this is one of my test renders.

Sabre (http://groups.msn.com/PaddyOshouseofDOOM/photoalbum1.msnw?action=ShowPhoto&PhotoID=337)

Ganimed
09-08-2003, 11:51 AM
I´m wondering if the F-18 Hornet of
Marcika is finished?!:shrug:

Hi did an excellent start on that one.
Unfortunatlly the pic´s are gone.

http://www.cgtalk.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=44431&highlight=F18

neu
09-09-2003, 08:23 AM
Originally posted by Ganimed
I´m wondering if the F-18 Hornet of
Marcika is finished?!:shrug:

Hi did an excellent start on that one.
Unfortunatlly the pic´s are gone.

http://www.cgtalk.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=44431&highlight=F18

Hey,

I'm pretty sure that Marcika will finish it, I saw it, it's in progress. Unfortunatelly he doesn't have too much time now, as he is (we are) working hard on our latest PC Game project. Be patient please ;)

neu

Ganimed
09-09-2003, 09:48 AM
Hey thanks for the info.:)

regards

Ganimed

neu
09-09-2003, 10:21 AM
Originally posted by Ganimed
Hey thanks for the info.:)

regards

Ganimed

Okay ;) Ohh...one more thing. The Hornet pics was linked from the server where one of my websites was located, but it was shot down, and I cannot find a new place for it. ReLinking is in progress from another place...stay tuned :thumbsup:

neu

Ganimed
09-09-2003, 10:25 AM
Excellent:thumbsup:

regards

Ganimed

Lem
09-09-2003, 10:26 AM
wow this thread doesnt stop.
Jerry, i like your style, reminds me of some comics i read back in the late 70ies.

Lem

Marcika
09-09-2003, 11:31 AM
I was really surprised that you have mentioned my hornet even in this topic :)
The Hornet will be winished, If I'll have time in the near future.

Relinking the images is in progress, so you can access them soon (some of them are ready to download already)

Ganimed
09-09-2003, 12:48 PM
Yeh, yeh:applause: :applause:

Can´t wait to see it:drool:

JerryB
09-09-2003, 10:53 PM
Originally posted by Lem
wow this thread doesnt stop.
Jerry, i like your style, reminds me of some comics i read back in the late 70ies.

Lol - thanks Lem :thumbsup: Believe it or not, I'm partly inspired by a book I owned when I was a kid that had loads of good aviation art inside. To this day I'm still trying to track it down! I also used to collect small A5-sized war comics back in the 70s, alot of which had very good cover art.

arai
09-10-2003, 04:04 PM
achtung spitfire! almost ready to texture


http://members.shaw.ca/arai/spit/cgtalk1.jpg


http://members.shaw.ca/arai/spit/cgtalk2.jpg

-arai-

jackburton
09-10-2003, 06:24 PM
Lots of great planes. Here's one I've been working on, not quite done yet. It's a Supermarine S6B seaplane, a forerunner to the spitfire.

http://www.johnschratz.com/S6Test8B.jpg

http://www.johnschratz.com/S6Test7B.jpg

http://www.johnschratz.com/S6BTest6.jpg

Stormy151
09-10-2003, 09:34 PM
Here's a question for all you aircraft modelers.

How do you do gear doors/wheel wells?

Do you build the model from the start with them in place or do you build the whole model first then trim/drill them out?

Thanks in advance.

:)

Lem
09-10-2003, 10:06 PM
I build it with closed gears. Geardoors i usually outline on the mesh with shape merge. Then you can extrude this one to get the geardoors etc.

Lem

Majestik
09-11-2003, 01:18 AM
This is a low poly (6k polys) model used for a comercial game,
render is done in Mental Ray.

http://perso.wanadoo.fr/majestik666/pilatus.jpg for a full res image (dv 720x486)

fuertes
09-11-2003, 09:42 AM
I've followed this thread for some days ago and I'm impressed for the quality of this images. Great work to all. :thumbsup: At the end I dare to contribute and make my first post here with my humble image:

http://perso.wanadoo.es/jlgf/trastero/il2/foto-1.jpg

She's a low-poly model (around 2700 p.) that I did in Lightwave when I was part of the ww1 project for the il2/fb flight simulator. This is a render I did for my gallery before convert her to MAX.

Fuertes.

Biggs 99
09-11-2003, 01:19 PM
arai :)

First off, superb Spit! :applause:

One small detail you might want to consider, is that the pop-out panel in the canopy should only be on the LHS ;)


Cheers,

Biggs99

mmiller
09-11-2003, 02:54 PM
Fuertes
Nice to see a WW1 aircraft here :thumbsup:
and nice choice of subject as well.
I think it might look a little better if you dirtied it up some.
But that's just how I like em ;)
And I have no idea of what the restrictions are for making a low poly model.

In any case - it looks good

You know - I believe they have resurrected the WW1 project for il2
Mark

Skyraider3D
09-12-2003, 12:56 AM
O wow! Lots of new replies!
Strange.. I haven't gotten any updates by e-mail anymore, lately :shrug:


Arai, you've been busy I see! What happened to the B-25?
Your Spit looks nice, but somehow not too accurate. Mainly the nose shape, but also the small cooler under the wing and some other major areas seem slightly out of shape.
What reference did you use? Or did you use a weird camera or pixel aspect ratio or something? I can't quite put my finger on it...
Anyway, I'm sure it'll look wicked again when it's all textured! :D

arai
09-12-2003, 06:16 AM
skyraider, everything is completely on spec... haha believe me... hmm heres a view, this is a mk V before the Vb wing




http://members.shaw.ca/arai/spit/spit_02.jpg

http://members.shaw.ca/arai/spit/spit.jpg

-arai-

Lem
09-12-2003, 08:35 AM
oh my, a flat turning spit dweeb. I think the spit looks very accurate (but i usually see them only from behind in my gunsight ;) ).

mmiller: you might wanna take a look at DoA (Dawn of Aces) Its free to download, only playing online does cost a subscription. I made the Fokker Dr1 for that sim. All models are around 8000 polys. Also there is a "player development corps" which is working on additional material for the sim.
Dawn of Aces III (http://www.totalsims.com/slicks/doa3.html)

Then there is Target Flanders
Targetware (http://targetwre.net)

Lem

fuertes
09-12-2003, 08:59 AM
Mark,

Thanks for your comments, I have to say that I belive I was good making planes until I saw your Albatros. :bowdown:
Yes you are right, the texture need some more painting, but I decided to leave this way when I leave the project thinking on retake her later, but in the end I haven't time to finish her and I'm afraid that this are going to be the final look.

And yes, I know the project is still alive and working hard to make those birds fly, but I leave it long before the close of il2center. Mainly because of the few free time that leave me my work and also because the start of the Spanish Civil War project for il2 (that in the end are going to be for Targetware). There are some guy finishing my Albatros and I hope that we can fly her soon. ;)

Steel GER
09-12-2003, 09:32 AM
Not as good as the others....with perhaps some details missing and some faults in the front area.

But believe me...it should be an airplane :beer:

http://www.3d-reality.de/boeing_4.jpg

3dRacer
09-12-2003, 10:44 AM
This is my first modell that can fly. Its actually stil wip but I hope thats its OK for u... :thumbsup:

Its a A-10 Wardog
http://www.tyrkiskpepper.com/wardog.jpg

giobianco1
09-12-2003, 12:41 PM
arai...!! great job for the MK V :applause: :applause:

betelgeuse
09-12-2003, 04:29 PM
Lots of really nice aircraft here, guys!

I'll add my Corsair WIP. Yeah, I know, everybody does a Corsair. But I haven't done one yet.

http://homepage.mac.com/mgleason/cor1.jpg

Zardoz
09-12-2003, 05:07 PM
god, what a coincidence! I read this thread and tought, hey i could post my corsair here! and when i came back here betelgeuse just posted is corsair! and a fine one too.

mine is quite old now and it isn't very well modeled, but if i have the time to work on it i'll change it to a better model.

here goes some renders:

http://pwp.netcabo.pt/0235892501/site2/F4UCorsair_00.jpg

render 1 (http://pwp.netcabo.pt/0235892501/site2/F4UCorsair_02.jpg) render 2 (http://pwp.netcabo.pt/0235892501/site2/F4UCorsair_03.jpg) render 3 (http://pwp.netcabo.pt/0235892501/site2/F4UCorsair_08.jpg) render 4 (http://pwp.netcabo.pt/0235892501/site2/F4UCorsair_09.jpg) render 5 (http://pwp.netcabo.pt/0235892501/site2/F4UCorsair_07.jpg) render 6 (http://pwp.netcabo.pt/0235892501/site2/F4UCorsair_06.jpg) render 7 (http://pwp.netcabo.pt/0235892501/site2/F4UCorsair_12.jpg) render 8 (http://pwp.netcabo.pt/0235892501/site2/F4UCorsair_10.jpg) render 9 (http://pwp.netcabo.pt/0235892501/site2/F4UCorsair_01.jpg) render 10 (http://pwp.netcabo.pt/0235892501/site2/F4UCorsair_11.jpg)

betelgeuse
09-12-2003, 08:41 PM
Hey Zardoz, your corsair looks pretty good to me (although I'm no aviation expert). Did corsairs really trail a thick black smoke trail like that? I haven't really seen that in photos of them.

I still have several things to work out with mine, but no time to do it :-(

DC2002
09-12-2003, 09:56 PM
Originally posted by Zardoz
god, what a coincidence! I read this thread and tought, hey i could post my corsair here! and when i came back here betelgeuse just posted is corsair! and a fine one too.

mine is quite old now and it isn't very well modeled, but if i have the time to work on it i'll change it to a better model.

here goes some renders:

http://pwp.netcabo.pt/0235892501/site2/F4UCorsair_00.jpg

render 1 (http://pwp.netcabo.pt/0235892501/site2/F4UCorsair_02.jpg) render 2 (http://pwp.netcabo.pt/0235892501/site2/F4UCorsair_03.jpg) render 3 (http://pwp.netcabo.pt/0235892501/site2/F4UCorsair_08.jpg) render 4 (http://pwp.netcabo.pt/0235892501/site2/F4UCorsair_09.jpg) render 5 (http://pwp.netcabo.pt/0235892501/site2/F4UCorsair_07.jpg) render 6 (http://pwp.netcabo.pt/0235892501/site2/F4UCorsair_06.jpg) render 7 (http://pwp.netcabo.pt/0235892501/site2/F4UCorsair_12.jpg) render 8 (http://pwp.netcabo.pt/0235892501/site2/F4UCorsair_10.jpg) render 9 (http://pwp.netcabo.pt/0235892501/site2/F4UCorsair_01.jpg) render 10 (http://pwp.netcabo.pt/0235892501/site2/F4UCorsair_11.jpg)

if you are trying to make it look real, and not cartoonish, it would be a little longer. your body came out a little too short.

otherwise, it looks great!!!!!

http://www.eaglesovermississippi.com/images/corsair.jpg
http://www.spitcrazy.com/corsair.jpg

Details
09-12-2003, 10:07 PM
these are a few years old.. but they will have to do..

warthog.. never finished
http://www.rayk.be/~details/resource/modeling/warthog3.jpg
http://www.rayk.be/~details/resource/modeling/warthog1.jpg

superflanker.. never finished
http://www.rayk.be/~details/resource/modeling/flanker3.jpg

http://www.rayk.be/~details/resource/modeling/flanker6.jpg



and an also unfinished f117 (http://www.rayk.be/~details/resource/modeling/nitehawq.jpg)

Lem
09-13-2003, 09:09 AM
nice corsairs and a great detailed A10.

Lem

Kozhe
09-13-2003, 10:38 AM
Very great planes :P

How can i get a so reallistic material like the arais Spit in max 5??

Zardoz
09-13-2003, 12:49 PM
great planes here.

betelgeuse i was just trying to make it look like it was hit, or dripping oil or something...too much Warbirds i guess...

DC2002 you are absolutely right! i've been checking some photos and my corsair does look chubby, but the thing is that i used the plans of my brother's f4u model (that's my brother and his f4u in the pics below) and my model has the exact measures from the blueprints of that model...

http://pwp.netcabo.pt/0235892501/site2/Corsair2.jpg
http://pwp.netcabo.pt/0235892501/site2/Corsair1.jpg

Is-boset
09-13-2003, 02:52 PM
there are the first Colombian F-16, but in low-poly.

http://www.telesat.com.co/raineiro/rr04.jpg
http://www.telesat.com.co/raineiro/rr02.jpg http://www.telesat.com.co/raineiro/rr05.jpg

3d42dustin
09-13-2003, 03:06 PM
focke ta 152c
-didnt bother to animate it for the pearl harbor pic
and yes.... there was no such thing as fockers in pearl harbor 1942

http://www.angelfire.com/art2/dustinh47/3d42dustin-fwulfpearlharbor.jpg
http://www.angelfire.com/art2/dustinh47/focke-er-FG-W.41.jpg

http://www.angelfire.com/art2/dustinh47/focke-er-FG-W.300.jpg

DC2002
09-13-2003, 03:53 PM
Originally posted by Zardoz
great planes here.

betelgeuse i was just trying to make it look like it was hit, or dripping oil or something...too much Warbirds i guess...

DC2002 you are absolutely right! i've been checking some photos and my corsair does look chubby, but the thing is that i used the plans of my brother's f4u model (that's my brother and his f4u in the pics below) and my model has the exact measures from the blueprints of that model...

http://pwp.netcabo.pt/0235892501/site2/Corsair2.jpg
http://pwp.netcabo.pt/0235892501/site2/Corsair1.jpg

thats pretty wierd, because the model in the pic that you just postd is just fine :p

MunCHeR
09-13-2003, 04:07 PM
arai, man i love your spitfire, did you model it with nurbs? Maya and i arent seeing eye to eye with my nurbs modeling :wip:
you've inspired me to keep going

Thanks, and everyone else great to see such high quality work all in the one place...

Cheers

MunCHeR

Skyraider3D
09-13-2003, 06:05 PM
Zardoz, DC2002, check out the "Technical Data" section of this website for some amazing Corsair drawings ('birdcage' variant): http://www.f4ucorsair.com


Details, I believe I've seen your A-10 before. But you were using a different name then. Didn't you make a hyperdetailed Mustang too? O my bad memory... :blush:
Anyway... I'd say smack some textures on those beauties!!!:thumbsup:

elfufu
09-13-2003, 06:14 PM
http://www.warproductions.com/hangar.jpg heres my b-17 its not finished but my term is over in school so i had to have it presentable.

xynaria
09-13-2003, 06:36 PM
Excellent models Details :beer: :beer:

mikesnail
09-13-2003, 11:48 PM
well, its kinda an aircraft ;)
its a h-53 helicopter

http://www.raynak.com/~mikesnail/motion.jpg

Danoku
09-14-2003, 12:43 AM
Zardoz that is a fine model, I think the key to the slight "chubbiness" is in the wings not in the fuselage. The wings look a little too deep and the leading edge is right up against the cooling flaps. If you look at your Bros fine model (does he compete?) and the blue prints you will see that the wing root starts back aways. also the wing chord is a little too deep. making the wings a bit thick. Not crits per se, just suggestions, cause i love the feel of the piece overall. Also if you could modell the cowl flaps open it might give it a little more of that realism, if he is smoking and losing oil he is probably worried about engine temp and cracking the flaps is part of cooling the engine down at lower airspeeds.

Zardoz
09-14-2003, 10:57 AM
Danoku , tx for the comments. Now I'm with some other projects, but as soon as i can i'll get back at the corsair and i will remodel it from scratch. Then I'll post some pics here.
And my brother did compete. Now he doesn't have the time anymore. it was beatiful to see the landing gear of his corsair going up or down...it was amazing when he did flybys over our heads! and the engine??? it's more powerful than some scooters...it's a great model. Maybe some day it will fly again.

Details
09-15-2003, 02:44 AM
and here is an old model i am touching up now for a project..

http://www.rayk.be/~details/wip/pachetest3.jpg
http://www.rayk.be/~details/wip/pachetest2.jpg

Skyraider3D
09-15-2003, 03:15 AM
Here's my current WIP, in need of an engine:

http://skyraider.allaboutwarfare.com/files/modelling/AS6V1_wip01.jpg

O yea sorry... it had to be extremely bizarre again! ;)

Here's the real thing in case you wondered if it really existed (it did!!!): http://www.luft46.com/misc/sackas6.html

betelgeuse
09-15-2003, 12:39 PM
That is one strange looking plane, skyraider. Near as I can tell from the link you gave, it never really achieved any significant flight.
Cool looking model, though.

XLNT-3d
09-15-2003, 02:48 PM
Anybody remember the Chinese J-8 Finback collision with the U.S. P-3 Orion. I work at a forensic and crash analysis firm. This project got cancelled, but it was an animation exploring the flight paths. The render is a bit weak and the model isn't top notch, but here is a couple of images.

XLNT-3d
09-15-2003, 02:56 PM
Here's one with a watercolor treatment. Texture on right wing got mixed up with the same texture on left wing.

XLNT-3d
09-15-2003, 03:14 PM
Does a German WWI airplane engine count? Modeled by co-worker and textured and lit by yours truly

Tumerboy
09-17-2003, 12:18 AM
Well. . . I had started a new topic, which seems to have disappeared. . . since this thread is here, I'll post it here.

I went to the Moffett Airshow this weekend, and got lots of referrence photos:

http://www.pbase.com/tumerboy/moffett_airshow_03

mmiller
09-17-2003, 08:18 PM
XLNT 3d
It's been a couple of years now
But, I've also modeled the Mercedes Engine
Here's the link to the page;
http://wwi-cookup.com/albatros/modelling_hints/profiles_markmiller.html

http://wwi-cookup.com/albatros/modelling_hints/mm_mercb02.JPG

also
Has anybody else done any stereo images?
Easy enough to do out of Microstation, just toggle on the sterio feature.
kind of gimicky, but still pretty cool.
You need a pair of red green glasses.

http://wwi-cookup.com/albatros/modelling_hints/mm_mercsterio01.JPG

brianellebracht
09-17-2003, 08:30 PM
sweet, i have a pair at home, can't wait to take a look :) nice model, I am amazed at what you were able to get microstaion to do, I use it all the time, but I have never really been able to get results like that. I know alot of people who use it, but unless someone wants to prove me wrong, i think you are the best microstaion artist out there. Great work

mmiller
09-17-2003, 08:33 PM
One more thing
Check out these Mercedes dIII engine photos.
Just got them up a couple of days ago.
scroll down to the bottom of the page

http://www.wwi-models.org/Photos/Engines/Mercedes/index.html

Best shots I've seen yet :thumbsup:
personaly I'm going to stealing those labels so i can map them onto my model.

Mark

mmiller
09-17-2003, 08:40 PM
Originally posted by brianellebracht
sweet, i have a pair at home, can't wait to take a look :) nice model, I am amazed at what you were able to get microstaion to do, I use it all the time, but I have never really been able to get results like that. I know alot of people who use it, but unless someone wants to prove me wrong, i think you are the best microstaion artist out there. Great work

Brian
Thanks :)

If you like the Stereo stuff, Here's a cockpit shot for you.
three more here:
http://wwi-cookup.com/albatros/dva/profiles_markmiller_cockpit.html


http://wwi-cookup.com/albatros/dva/mm_sterioalbck011.jpg

Obizzz
09-17-2003, 09:24 PM
nice as always mark ;)

and while we're on the subject of historical stuff... you guys know of any good museums in London? I'm going there over this weekend I've got Imperial War Museum planned.. anything else I should see? unfortunately it has to be in central London so I can't go too far.

asylum24
09-17-2003, 09:29 PM
eww I hate microstation.... a friend of mine was in one of those microstation magazines a year ago or so.... built our High school in it and it looked pretty damn photorealistic for only being 18 and without any real training...

brianellebracht
09-17-2003, 10:11 PM
sorry, but uhh... after using microstation for the last 3 yrs at work, I have to admit that i am not a big fan of it either, but different things work for differnt people. I couldn't do this in Microstation :D :D I will stick with MAYA :)

Brian,

I will check out those images tonight.

Vazza
09-17-2003, 11:05 PM
Originally posted by Obizzz
nice as always mark ;)

and while we're on the subject of historical stuff... you guys know of any good museums in London? I'm going there over this weekend I've got Imperial War Museum planned.. anything else I should see? unfortunately it has to be in central London so I can't go too far.

If you go to South Kensington on the Underground (Picadilly Line), there's 3 great Museums just aorund the corner; "The Science Museum", "The Natural History Museum" (which also contains the "Geology Museum") and there's also the "Victoria & Albert Museum".

Out of those 3, the Science and the V&A are my favourites. Also, if you want to look at some aircraft, then head down to Colindale on the Undergound (Northern Line) and pop into the RAF Museum, lots to see there too :)

munkY
09-18-2003, 12:09 AM
skyraider: is that thing even flyable? :)

Obizzz
09-18-2003, 02:41 PM
hey thanks Vazza I'll check them out!

RAF museum sounds really interesting. How far out is Colindale?


and to add something to the topic... I'm working on a Saab Draken I'll post here later. I have no time for it this weekend though for obvious reasons :hmm:

but a trip to London ain't too bad either :)

3dRacer
09-18-2003, 03:04 PM
I`m still working on this plane.

What do you think about the smoke? I will use matte painting to finish it...