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terryford
01-23-2003, 10:55 PM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/galleryimages/7746/P_Cushing_002_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/galleryimages/7746/P_Cushing_002.jpg)

Here's my latest piece. I'm not completely happy with it, but it's as good as I can make it for now. Hopefully he's at least recognizable...

Software is LightWave+Sasquatch, some Photoshop post for noise/levels.



Regards,
Terry

bramley1
01-23-2003, 11:05 PM
WOW
Me like so much

Plus im a fan of Vincent Price :)

terryford
01-23-2003, 11:08 PM
Vincent? Right genre wrong actor. Maybe he's not recognisable after all :surprised

bramley1
01-23-2003, 11:12 PM
DOH
sorry my bad
i meant peter cushing

sorry:hmm:

terryford
01-23-2003, 11:24 PM
Phew! had me worried there :)

fleedawg
01-24-2003, 12:04 AM
Well, I thought it looked like Grand Moff Tarkin of Star Wars fame, but I didn't know he was played by Peter Cushing. Shows how little I know! :D

Anyway, excellent likeness. I love the hair and the wrinkles. Excellent job, all around.

Spirit2029
01-24-2003, 12:50 AM
looking great!! maybey try making him look older though, like more wrinkles, and some liver spots and a slightly darker complexion...any plans with this?


Spirit2029

giz
01-24-2003, 01:25 AM
great job, I really like this :applause:

My only crit is about right eyeball - it looks too deep - move it just a little in front.

terryford
01-24-2003, 01:55 AM
I had another stab at it with higher bump and colour map percentages, plus different post levels. Interesting comment about the right eye; I think the right half (his left) is a better likeness than the other side. Can't put my finger on what's wrong with the left (his right) side though, Peter Cushing had a fairly strong asymmetry to his face and very deep set eyes. Tricky, but a great facial structure for modeling :)

http://www.terryf.dsl.pipex.com/gif/gallery/cush_strong.jpg

http://www.terryf.dsl.pipex.com/gif/gallery/cush_wire.jpg

Regards,
Terry

O.Martin
01-24-2003, 06:21 AM
The likeness is very very good. One of the best I've seen! Simple model = well done. Some details. Since this is an old man, maybe U should try to make his eyes less blue? 50% less saturated will do nicely I think. Some work needed on the hair also, but that's just details... :applause:

Magius
01-24-2003, 08:32 AM
awesome!! i love it!! great work man!! ... i wish i could something like that!

anticz
01-24-2003, 08:49 AM
Damn! :D You got some skills.

olivier Defaye
01-24-2003, 09:22 AM
very good wire
nice model

Labuzz
01-24-2003, 09:48 AM
Great Work!:thumbsup: Are you going to make the body?

danne_n
01-24-2003, 09:53 AM
great lighting too!! :beer:

wgreenlee1
01-24-2003, 09:54 AM
Wow!!!!!!!!

ACFred
01-24-2003, 09:55 AM
I recognized it as Peter Cushing from the thumbnail on the front page, so I think you were pretty accurate with your interpretation. It seems almost like a caricature, but Peter Cushing looked like a caricature in real life anyway.
There's something about the lips that don't look right, but I'll have to grab a Cushing ref to double-check.

Really nice job on him. Definitely an under-rated bad guy in the series and a model I've never seen done before in 3D, so great job on that!

Keep it up!

Alec

baby
01-24-2003, 10:16 AM
:buttrock: :buttrock: :buttrock:

dies-irae
01-24-2003, 11:12 AM
the one who can say "shut up" to darth
lol!


great work, really, the likeness is superlative!
how did you model it? point by point with reference images?

anyway:
:buttrock:

Pegasus
01-24-2003, 11:33 AM
JUST A PERFECT PICE OF WORK!

:thumbsup:

Matt
01-24-2003, 11:36 AM
Thank god for subdivisions! I wouldn't be able to tell what it was if it was the low-poly version posted in his second post!

GREAT WORK! I'm not a Star Wars maniac, but I like it anyway.

GrafOrlok
01-24-2003, 11:40 AM
Great job! Likeness is very good; I recognized him on the thumbnail too;)

However the ears look like they need a little more attention. They don't look very realistic. Also some of the wrinkles might benefit from modeling some volume into them instead of relying all on bump-maps. They look a little flat.

Otherwise: great! (just trying to get you to aim for perfection;) )

Edit: I've been working a lot in the model kit biz, especially Garage Kits, where models are mainly from movie characters. And some attempts has been made on Cushing, but has never been done perfectly. If this would be a sculpture it would have been the best yet!

Matt
01-24-2003, 11:48 AM
Originally posted by Graf Orlok
the ears look like they need a little more attention. They don't look very realistic. Also some of the wrinkles might benefit from modeling some volume into them instead of relying all on bump-maps. They look a little flat.

Best post here.

I didn't notice the ears until he mentioned it, and they do need some work...

I would perhaps accentuate some things in his skin texture also, such as moles, freckles, liver spots, whatever those spots old people get are called. If I remember correctly, he had a few. (Is the man still with us? I imagine he would love to see your work, but probably not my post, lol.)

The Pixar eyes could use a little tweaking, but they still look alright, even if you don't mess with them. Since you're going for realism, I would 'dry' them up a little, and add more detail to the texture.

ilasolomon
01-24-2003, 12:53 PM
He's Peter Cushing, with no doubt! :) you did well, don't worry!

Perambulator
01-24-2003, 01:07 PM
That's really fantastic.

I think the lighting really makes it. I would love to hear what kind of lighting you used.

Also, some grabs of the textures would be good, particularly how you accomplished the look of the eyes.

Cheers

Richard

Frank Dodd
01-24-2003, 01:29 PM
Outstanding work, but I'm biased because he's was always one of my favoriate actors :) I agree with the comment about the eyes and the skin also seams a little specular to me but the structure of the face is awesome. Peter Cushion always had a very striking and distinctive shape to his head and you have brought it out wonderfully.

Well done! :bounce:

mastering3d
01-24-2003, 02:03 PM
I hope that you dont mind me putting your image up with the other one ....

I think its great and it looks a lot like him ...Know crites here well done man...Looks like your be getting a CG-Chat award very soon i would say....

http://www.terryf.dsl.pipex.com/gif/gallery/cush_strong.jpg http://home.clara.net/digger/sixties/petercushing.jpg

insseuv
01-24-2003, 02:12 PM
Tarkin ruuuuuuuulez !!! :D Great mod ;)

terryford
01-24-2003, 03:06 PM
Thanks for the comments, some good crits in there. I've had yet another go at it; Improved the ears a bit, desaturated the eye and made the liver spots more visable (he's starting to look a little diseased, but I like the overall effect :) )

Labuzz; no plans to add a body at this stage, I was mainly interested in capturing his likeness.

Dies-Irae; It's box modeled with some point-by-point refinements.

Perambulator; It's standard three point lighting (Key, Fill and Rim) standard spotlights with blurred show maps. The eyes maps were generated with my PS Action from here
http://www.cgtalk.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=13488&highlight=iris+photoshop+action
it doesn't work for everyone though...

http://www.terryf.dsl.pipex.com/gif/gallery/P_Cushing_003.jpg

http://www.terryf.dsl.pipex.com/gif/gallery/P_Cushing_004.jpg

Regards,
Terry

HapZungLam
01-24-2003, 03:32 PM
can you post up your textures map? i reallyreally want to have a look.:)

neversong
01-24-2003, 03:35 PM
nice model!

reminds me of one of the Square's model though.

good job.

Projectkmo
01-24-2003, 04:13 PM
"Where is the Rebel base?!?!"

thats just right on man! Very good likeness!

Neox
01-24-2003, 04:25 PM
very good, but just to compare the pictures, the one on the photo has a bigger/longer nose i guess...

terryford
01-24-2003, 04:40 PM
Here are the maps reduced in size, the originals are 2048x1024.

Because the colour map is overlaid onto a procedural skin base I like to use a "Hard" or "Nasty" colour map with no alpha, then blend it with a seperate alpha map. This is to prevent the washing out of the colour or white fringing that tends to happen when using the draw version directly.

As drawn in PS:
http://www.terryf.dsl.pipex.com/gif/smallmaps/Face_C_011%20copy.jpg

Nasty (generated with PS Action from the drawn version)
http://www.terryf.dsl.pipex.com/gif/smallmaps/Face_C_002%20copy.jpg

Alpha (generated with PS Action from the drawn version):
http://www.terryf.dsl.pipex.com/gif/smallmaps/Face_A_002%20copy.jpg

Spec/Gloss:
http://www.terryf.dsl.pipex.com/gif/smallmaps/Face_S_002%20copy.jpg

Bump:
http://www.terryf.dsl.pipex.com/gif/smallmaps/Face_B_005%20copy.jpg

Regards,
Terry

chlywly
01-24-2003, 04:42 PM
I think some SSS would be great :)

progerik
01-24-2003, 04:59 PM
why ? :(

Vovik3D
01-24-2003, 05:16 PM
Cool face !!! And Mesh Structure...

ub52
01-24-2003, 06:09 PM
When it comes to capturing a likness I think this is about the best modelling and texturing job I've seen. Great work!!!:buttrock:

I'm curious about any Sas tips you might want to offer. Did you use Fur or hair guides? If Fur, did you use an image map to control hair placement and how about combing?

Thanks.
- ub52

lerpiedood
01-24-2003, 06:25 PM
Woah!! Your work is truely impressive. Great model, even better texturing, I wish I could do something like that in LW. He also looks very original, and asymetrical, you don't see alot of that nowadays. DO you have any plans to animate him, cause that would be awesome?

terryford
01-24-2003, 07:01 PM
Sasquatch specifics (with notes for non LW/Sas users :) ); I used both fur and hair guides. The fur helps to blend the hairline which can look a bit harsh with just guides, and provides some fill under the guides.

The fur uses a density and length map with surface combing and a "part" Comb Definition (parts are arbitrary polygon groups that are unrelated to surface attributes). This part is a strip of polygons above the eyebrows (Sasquatch combs the fur away from this area.)

The hair guides have a light gray hair colour defined in sas, but additional colour control via a colour vertex map applied to the guide polys. That was the easiest way to make the hair grey at the sides and darker on top. Both the fur and hair have high Translucent Lighting settings to give a nice halo effect from the rim light.

The eyelashes and eyebrows are also sas fur.

Hope that's usefull info.

lerpiedood - no plans to animate, he's done. Haven't made my mind up what to try next, might try a Star Trek TOS actor...:)

Regards,
Terry

JacquesD
01-24-2003, 07:06 PM
Cool character... I like it.
How did you unfold you mesh to keep the proportions right?

terryford
01-24-2003, 07:17 PM
The mapping on this face is standard cylindrical so I used Ernie Wright's "Unwrap 2" plugin (http://www.flay.com/GetDetail.cfm?ID=342), it creates a 2D wireframe image of the mesh in whatever projection mode the selected surface is using.

Regards,
Terry

Crapstick
01-24-2003, 07:47 PM
hey, wot a good modeller you are! spot on likeness:thumbsup: nice texturing too

just wondering.. do you use Ernie Wright's "Unwrap 2" in preference to LW's uv unwrap. I've found it to be a lot more accurate/quick/less prone to stretching.

inspirational stuff !

JacquesD
01-24-2003, 08:29 PM
Thanks terryford, I had forgotten that one :hmm:

Keep on. :thumbsup:

NightFox
01-24-2003, 08:57 PM
Hey, very cool model and texturing job. Looks very close to the guy as he looked in Star Wars Episode 4. Would really be cool if you did some lip sync job of the audio from the movie.



:eek: Keep on rockin!

terryford
01-24-2003, 09:14 PM
Crapstick - Since I'm not using UV mapping I find that Unwrap 2 is the fastest way to get a 2D wire image for loading into photoshop. I like the way it uses the Layout subd setting to draw the mesh but creates the image size to autofit correctly to the low res cage; UVunwrap will only unwrap the low rez cage, plus there's the hassle of saving the UV as an image...


Regards,
Terry

lildragon
01-24-2003, 09:43 PM
My word, this is definitely a nice piece of art, the textures are superb, and I really dig the hair! The only thing is the ears which has been mentioned, but that's small potatoes :)

You have received the CGtalk choice award . Please feel free to display this image anywhere you like! awesome talent!

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salud

terryford
01-24-2003, 11:11 PM
Cool! Thanks lildragon. :)

Regards,
Terry

godfish
01-25-2003, 11:03 PM
Great work! Obviously Peter Cushing,but in the first image,I think it looks like hes got something in his eye and is about to blink! Last image from the other side looks like hes got rid of it!

monkeysweat
01-29-2003, 07:48 AM
I hope to be able to do that kind of work when I get out of school.
Very cool...a nice change from all the T&A that is on most sites.

erikals
01-29-2003, 09:12 AM
Great model, :thumbsup:

:sad: but the maps for texture, reflection and stuff are gone...

XerC
01-29-2003, 12:37 PM
You have received the CGtalk choice award

I was waiting for this sentence since you started this thread.:thumbsup:
Really good work, unfortionately I cannot see the maps you posted :hmm: bad luck, I was so curious about them :rolleyes:

Great work! :beer:

XerC

cuse
01-29-2003, 06:16 PM
wow... fantastic, very inspiring to get onto this kind of modelling. really spectacular.



:)
cuse

azazel
01-29-2003, 07:32 PM
I can't see the maps, too :( . But the head is perfect
:thumbsup:

terryford
01-29-2003, 08:53 PM
Sorry, the maps got deleted in a freak accident with FrontPage. They're back now. :)

Regards,
Terry

jeremy weldon
02-19-2003, 06:34 AM
Was he on star wars?

silentsamurai
09-16-2004, 05:56 AM
very good Peter Cushing portrait. The only thing that I would say to work on is the hair. That's the only thing that I see that could use some work. It looks to sparse.

Maybe put an imperial collar around his neck, a little Grand Moff Tarkin action maybe?

silent samurai

p.s. yes he was in star wars

jcasano
04-17-2005, 09:56 PM
This is an excellent rendering of Peter Cushing. He is one of my
most favorite actors for the Horror type films. I've seen almost all
the Hammer Fils he's been in.

Asgardian Prodigy
03-05-2006, 08:11 PM
I find his lack of faith disappointing...:twisted:

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