RobertoOrtiz
08-10-2006, 06:13 PM
One of the ideas I had for a future 2 minute film club, is to do character profiles of members (or yourself in your area.
What do you guys think?
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What do you guys think?
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mackdadd
08-10-2006, 06:39 PM
hmmm.. i don't know if i get what you mean exactly. by character profiles, do you mean like little documentaries on members?
RobertoOrtiz
08-11-2006, 01:11 PM
yeah profiles. You could do a profile of yourself, someone in particular (company or individual) or a profile of your local cg crew.
Of course with the permission of all involved.
What do you guys thinks?
-R
Of course with the permission of all involved.
What do you guys thinks?
-R
Velk
08-11-2006, 01:40 PM
Not sure about this idea Roberto, guess I'd rather see more things in here like the current FXWars challenge. I'm not really into documentary style things so that could be my hang-up with the idea.
igorsandman
08-11-2006, 02:16 PM
Hello,
As far as I am concerned, I'm more interrested in fiction too. It sound like a good idea, but it's just not my cup of tea.
In general, I don't like to work with restrictions. Amateur filmmaking has its share of technical constraints. I personnaly need more creative freedom in compensstion (eventhough technical constraints often imply artistic ones).
If that profile idea makes it to completion, I'd most certainly watch it with interrest as a viewer though.
Take care.
-IS-
As far as I am concerned, I'm more interrested in fiction too. It sound like a good idea, but it's just not my cup of tea.
In general, I don't like to work with restrictions. Amateur filmmaking has its share of technical constraints. I personnaly need more creative freedom in compensstion (eventhough technical constraints often imply artistic ones).
If that profile idea makes it to completion, I'd most certainly watch it with interrest as a viewer though.
Take care.
-IS-
igorsandman
08-11-2006, 02:19 PM
[edit] sorry double post -_-'
mackdadd
08-11-2006, 04:48 PM
i'd be for it, simply because it's something different.
my usual short movies usually involve sci-fi or fantasy or horror storylines, with stylizing and effects and all that kind of stuff. doing a straight up little documentary would be something different.
of course, it being my first one, it probably would be filled with mistakes! :shrug: but i'd try it anyway!
my usual short movies usually involve sci-fi or fantasy or horror storylines, with stylizing and effects and all that kind of stuff. doing a straight up little documentary would be something different.
of course, it being my first one, it probably would be filled with mistakes! :shrug: but i'd try it anyway!
2a03
08-14-2006, 12:41 PM
One of the ideas I had for a future 2 minute film club, is to do character profiles of members (or yourself in your area.
What do you guys think?
-R
Sounds like a pretty lame idea to me... Why would anybody besides the members here want to watch something like that? Well... they wouldn't... Are you out to make good short films or are you out to pat other cgsociety members on the back? A short film like that wouldn't be interesting to anyone outside these forums and there is no drama in it...If you want to make something good try original narrative fiction... No remakes, no fanfilms, no character profiles of other members... Be creative! Thats the job of a supposed "artist"... So I think it is a horrible idea, you would just be wasting the time of the members involved... It would do nothing to sharpen their storytelling skills so it is pointless in my opinion... but what do I know I just made an original narrative animated feature film by myself that is generating interest all over the world and your an admin of some forum... Maybe your right? Your an admin after all! And everybody knows their always right! Haha
God! I should be the admin here then people would really do some cool stuff with my help.... What are you doing in the Directing forum anyway Ortiz? What experience do you have? I'm sure it pales in comparison to my experience... I've made over 70 live action and animated short films, and my feature animated film "We are the Strange" will cause you to krap your pants!
If you want me M dot Strange to be an admin here and spearhead some really interesting worthwhile narrative projects that will hone your filmmaking skills please contact the cgsociety staff and tell them you want a real filmmaker to be an admin here in the "directing" section...
Here's some interviews I've done recently... check my stuff out I'm the real deal and with my help this place will start turning out good films...
http://www.shaneneville.com/2006/07/17/diy-media-mdotstrange-str8nime-we-are-the-strange/#more-632
http://www.studioartfx.com/2006/07/strange-interview.html
What do you guys think?
-R
Sounds like a pretty lame idea to me... Why would anybody besides the members here want to watch something like that? Well... they wouldn't... Are you out to make good short films or are you out to pat other cgsociety members on the back? A short film like that wouldn't be interesting to anyone outside these forums and there is no drama in it...If you want to make something good try original narrative fiction... No remakes, no fanfilms, no character profiles of other members... Be creative! Thats the job of a supposed "artist"... So I think it is a horrible idea, you would just be wasting the time of the members involved... It would do nothing to sharpen their storytelling skills so it is pointless in my opinion... but what do I know I just made an original narrative animated feature film by myself that is generating interest all over the world and your an admin of some forum... Maybe your right? Your an admin after all! And everybody knows their always right! Haha
God! I should be the admin here then people would really do some cool stuff with my help.... What are you doing in the Directing forum anyway Ortiz? What experience do you have? I'm sure it pales in comparison to my experience... I've made over 70 live action and animated short films, and my feature animated film "We are the Strange" will cause you to krap your pants!
If you want me M dot Strange to be an admin here and spearhead some really interesting worthwhile narrative projects that will hone your filmmaking skills please contact the cgsociety staff and tell them you want a real filmmaker to be an admin here in the "directing" section...
Here's some interviews I've done recently... check my stuff out I'm the real deal and with my help this place will start turning out good films...
http://www.shaneneville.com/2006/07/17/diy-media-mdotstrange-str8nime-we-are-the-strange/#more-632
http://www.studioartfx.com/2006/07/strange-interview.html
RobertoOrtiz
08-14-2006, 04:32 PM
<<Forum leader hat off>>
Boy you really rubbed me the wrong way.
I guess after almost 3 years of admin work here, I do have an idea of what I am doing with these mini challenges. Trust as a currency is EARNED, it is not a God given RIGHT.
Right now, thanks to the way you came off, I could care less if you are the next Kubrick, because, presented yourself as a pompous person looking to be worshiped.
I hope to God you meant to be funny, or that there is a language translation problem, because right now you lost me in a big way. We are not here to stroke people's egos, we are here to learn.
And by the way, anybody is free to follow what ever you want, but it is obvious you just want people to worship you.
This is fine, just don't do it in this site.
-R
BTW sparky, I am not the admin of this forum. I am suggesting ideas with the blessing of the forum leader. His name is Sam Chen, and I recommend you do a IMDB search before you shoot your mouth again.
Boy you really rubbed me the wrong way.
I guess after almost 3 years of admin work here, I do have an idea of what I am doing with these mini challenges. Trust as a currency is EARNED, it is not a God given RIGHT.
Right now, thanks to the way you came off, I could care less if you are the next Kubrick, because, presented yourself as a pompous person looking to be worshiped.
I hope to God you meant to be funny, or that there is a language translation problem, because right now you lost me in a big way. We are not here to stroke people's egos, we are here to learn.
And by the way, anybody is free to follow what ever you want, but it is obvious you just want people to worship you.
This is fine, just don't do it in this site.
-R
BTW sparky, I am not the admin of this forum. I am suggesting ideas with the blessing of the forum leader. His name is Sam Chen, and I recommend you do a IMDB search before you shoot your mouth again.
f7w
08-14-2006, 04:58 PM
M Dot Strange is a gawdly animator *bows down*, everything he sais makes sense and makes most other artists look like idiots and fakes
igorsandman
08-14-2006, 05:01 PM
I can't believe what I just read. huh... I'm confused. M dot strange, you just seem strange enough. I don't understand how harrassing Roberto, who is giving his time to the community, makes you so worthy of our interrest. I'm out of words.
Please Roberto, don't consider his opinion as representative of the community's
Thanks for what you do on a regular basis for CGTalk :)
Take care.
-IS-
Please Roberto, don't consider his opinion as representative of the community's
Thanks for what you do on a regular basis for CGTalk :)
Take care.
-IS-
Velk
08-14-2006, 05:20 PM
2a03, I don't see how this can be classified as "back patting".
I would certainly watch all these if it were done; as I find it fascinating to learn all about all the other members, their talents the cities they live in and the projects they've done. I'm just not interested in learning about or creating a piece of this kind. That doesn't mean it is a bad idea or shouldn't be done.
I would certainly watch all these if it were done; as I find it fascinating to learn all about all the other members, their talents the cities they live in and the projects they've done. I'm just not interested in learning about or creating a piece of this kind. That doesn't mean it is a bad idea or shouldn't be done.
Shayder
08-14-2006, 08:46 PM
I am quite shocked with the response (well 2 of them, I kept waiting for it to be a close friend making a joke) to this thread. I admit that on the surface this isn't as exciting as something scifi or effects laden. The challenge is to take the topic and present it in a way that is new and refreshing. It is too easy to hide behind flashy effects that can obscure the fact that there is really nothing new going on here. This challenge would allow you to come up with some innovative way to present something quite ordinary.
I've worked in the film industry for over 22 years and I have come to realize that there seems to be 2 kinds of people that emerge when faced with a challenge. One will complain about the challenge and do everything in their power to avoid it. The other will take it head on and rise up to it.
I like working with the latter they are good people. As for the former, I really can't say because I never work with them and they don't seem to be around that long.
So after all that I say to everyone, take up this challenge and run with it. Find away to make it scifi, add effects, go nuts. Just attempting to do something different will teach you so much even if you don't finish.
I've worked in the film industry for over 22 years and I have come to realize that there seems to be 2 kinds of people that emerge when faced with a challenge. One will complain about the challenge and do everything in their power to avoid it. The other will take it head on and rise up to it.
I like working with the latter they are good people. As for the former, I really can't say because I never work with them and they don't seem to be around that long.
So after all that I say to everyone, take up this challenge and run with it. Find away to make it scifi, add effects, go nuts. Just attempting to do something different will teach you so much even if you don't finish.
mackdadd
08-14-2006, 09:11 PM
I agree strongly with Shayder. that's the creative aspect of it, how to tell a little about someone in a creative, interesting way. it could be about anyone really, but of course, since we're all on this forum, why not make it about some of our friends here. the point is making a little documentary about someone and making it worth watching.
if that guy's such the "real deal", why haven't we seen his stuff anywhere other than his website? whatever...
and it looks to me like f7w went out of his way to join CGtalk and make one post, praising the godliness of Strange. a tad suspicious...
thanks for the fun read, though, Strange! i must say, your flaming post made me smile as i was reading it. i honestly have no interest in watching anything at your site though.
oh, and Strange, here's a thought - make your own forums. then everything will be run exactly as you see fit, and you won't have to tolerate such lackluster and amatuerish filmmakers as the rest of us.
if that guy's such the "real deal", why haven't we seen his stuff anywhere other than his website? whatever...
and it looks to me like f7w went out of his way to join CGtalk and make one post, praising the godliness of Strange. a tad suspicious...
thanks for the fun read, though, Strange! i must say, your flaming post made me smile as i was reading it. i honestly have no interest in watching anything at your site though.
oh, and Strange, here's a thought - make your own forums. then everything will be run exactly as you see fit, and you won't have to tolerate such lackluster and amatuerish filmmakers as the rest of us.
2a03
08-15-2006, 01:27 AM
Hahaha... You've got the wrong idea Ortiz... I respect no one but the masters, why should I respect some "short" film maker? Features are a real accomplishment.... I don't care who the forum leader is I'll still speak my mind... Was mentioning Sam whoever supposed to humble me?!!! I did look his name up on IMDB...he's made ONE short film....Hahaha.....Is that something to be proud of because that doesn't prove anything... I don't think a person who has made ONE short film should be a leader as that is not enough filmmaking experience... If anyone is interested I can really teach you stuff, or you can continue to follow blind forum leaders...
In their filmmaking careers everyone needs to make a choice... Become someone else's minion and produce mediocrity... Or be bold and passionate and make great stuff...
Since you already took your hat off Ortiz you might as well just get down on your knee's and bow to your directing lord M dot Strange!!!
In their filmmaking careers everyone needs to make a choice... Become someone else's minion and produce mediocrity... Or be bold and passionate and make great stuff...
Since you already took your hat off Ortiz you might as well just get down on your knee's and bow to your directing lord M dot Strange!!!
RobertoOrtiz
08-15-2006, 01:54 AM
Mind the gap, ignore the troll.
-R
-R
hellgatemedia
08-15-2006, 02:12 AM
What a horse's ass
Permanent iggy for the troll.
Permanent iggy for the troll.
LoTekK
08-15-2006, 02:56 AM
Hahaha... You've got the wrong idea Ortiz... I respect no one but the masters, why should I respect some "short" film maker? Features are a real accomplishment.... I don't care who the forum leader is I'll still speak my mind... Was mentioning Sam whoever supposed to humble me?!!! I did look his name up on IMDB...he's made ONE short film....Hahaha.....Is that something to be proud of because that doesn't prove anything... I don't think a person who has made ONE short film should be a leader as that is not enough filmmaking experience... If anyone is interested I can really teach you stuff, or you can continue to follow blind forum leaders...
In their filmmaking careers everyone needs to make a choice... Become someone else's minion and produce mediocrity... Or be bold and passionate and make great stuff...
Since you already took your hat off Ortiz you might as well just get down on your knee's and bow to your directing lord M dot Strange!!!
Wow. You come off as a total jackass. Only reason I'd bow down to you is so I could bring my head back up sharply to give you a nice upwards headbutt to the chin.
You've shown remarkable immaturity of thought, and a complete inability to hold your tongue. Shorts aren't worthy of respect? I suppose THX 1138 is shit, then, huh? I'm with Roberto; I don't think anybody could care less at this point if you're the next Kubrick, because nobody likes working with an asshole.
In their filmmaking careers everyone needs to make a choice... Become someone else's minion and produce mediocrity... Or be bold and passionate and make great stuff...
Since you already took your hat off Ortiz you might as well just get down on your knee's and bow to your directing lord M dot Strange!!!
Wow. You come off as a total jackass. Only reason I'd bow down to you is so I could bring my head back up sharply to give you a nice upwards headbutt to the chin.
You've shown remarkable immaturity of thought, and a complete inability to hold your tongue. Shorts aren't worthy of respect? I suppose THX 1138 is shit, then, huh? I'm with Roberto; I don't think anybody could care less at this point if you're the next Kubrick, because nobody likes working with an asshole.
2a03
08-15-2006, 06:59 AM
Wow. You come off as a total jackass. Only reason I'd bow down to you is so I could bring my head back up sharply to give you a nice upwards headbutt to the chin.
You've shown remarkable immaturity of thought, and a complete inability to hold your tongue. Shorts aren't worthy of respect? I suppose THX 1138 is shit, then, huh? I'm with Roberto; I don't think anybody could care less at this point if you're the next Kubrick, because nobody likes working with an asshole.
So I'm immature when your threatening physical violence?! Ummm so how much can you bench press? I hit up 415lbs on my best day.... I'm totally confident that I can absolutely beat your arse in like real physical life as most of you pixel pushers are total wimps that type big on message boards but are repressed introverted little men in real life... If you want someone to videotape me shoving your face in the sand I can set that up, might make a good video podcast.....Where are you in the world? I'll enter a film fest in your area and attend it.... then I can meet with you and rough you up a little so that you, like Roberto Ortiz will kneel before me, your almightly lord Zodd....umm...I mean M dot Strange!!!
And a minion like yourself would not work with me you would work for me :)
And yeh THX 1138 sux... So whats your point? Nice sound design but the rest is an excercise in boredom...
Troll hmmm.... thats what you lackeys with the hive consciousness label people like me... passionate people who speak honestly and courageously... Ignore me ha!! What your doing is ignoring the truth... You'll never do anything great in the world... your just all minions for other people to boss around... You gotta be bold to do your own thing... you all just seem like a bunch of sheep.... Call me a troll and ignore me... run away like the cowards that you are! Haha... I'll keep being awesome as usual, keep on modeling... This is a directing forum so I thought there would be some leaders in here, not just a bunch of followers...
haha you kids get all shook up and cry troll and try to pretend I don't exist... I DO EXIST and I'm not going away... but I guess there's no real filmmakers in here.... just pixel pusher fanboys with no original ideas or storytelling skills... how sad...
Yeh I'm a troll and I'll eat your children! Be afraid!
You've shown remarkable immaturity of thought, and a complete inability to hold your tongue. Shorts aren't worthy of respect? I suppose THX 1138 is shit, then, huh? I'm with Roberto; I don't think anybody could care less at this point if you're the next Kubrick, because nobody likes working with an asshole.
So I'm immature when your threatening physical violence?! Ummm so how much can you bench press? I hit up 415lbs on my best day.... I'm totally confident that I can absolutely beat your arse in like real physical life as most of you pixel pushers are total wimps that type big on message boards but are repressed introverted little men in real life... If you want someone to videotape me shoving your face in the sand I can set that up, might make a good video podcast.....Where are you in the world? I'll enter a film fest in your area and attend it.... then I can meet with you and rough you up a little so that you, like Roberto Ortiz will kneel before me, your almightly lord Zodd....umm...I mean M dot Strange!!!
And a minion like yourself would not work with me you would work for me :)
And yeh THX 1138 sux... So whats your point? Nice sound design but the rest is an excercise in boredom...
Troll hmmm.... thats what you lackeys with the hive consciousness label people like me... passionate people who speak honestly and courageously... Ignore me ha!! What your doing is ignoring the truth... You'll never do anything great in the world... your just all minions for other people to boss around... You gotta be bold to do your own thing... you all just seem like a bunch of sheep.... Call me a troll and ignore me... run away like the cowards that you are! Haha... I'll keep being awesome as usual, keep on modeling... This is a directing forum so I thought there would be some leaders in here, not just a bunch of followers...
haha you kids get all shook up and cry troll and try to pretend I don't exist... I DO EXIST and I'm not going away... but I guess there's no real filmmakers in here.... just pixel pusher fanboys with no original ideas or storytelling skills... how sad...
Yeh I'm a troll and I'll eat your children! Be afraid!
RobertoOrtiz
08-15-2006, 01:03 PM
Mind the gap, (I am taking care of it) lets continue the conversation.
-R
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Velk
08-15-2006, 02:40 PM
For me one of the biggest challenges with this would be the lack of members in my area, not sure how true this is for everyone else.
Naisa Evoli
08-26-2006, 10:53 PM
Hahaha... You've got the wrong idea Ortiz... I respect no one but the masters, why should I respect some "short" film maker? Features are a real accomplishment....
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0005124/
not possitive, but i'm pretty sure that the first film listed under this guys filmography for directing is a short film...hmm. But what does John Lasseter know, according to you since he made short films, he doesnt deserve your respect.. (everyone starts somewhere bro.)
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0005124/
not possitive, but i'm pretty sure that the first film listed under this guys filmography for directing is a short film...hmm. But what does John Lasseter know, according to you since he made short films, he doesnt deserve your respect.. (everyone starts somewhere bro.)
Jackdeth
08-27-2006, 12:31 AM
Hahaha... You've got the wrong idea Ortiz... I respect no one but the masters, why should I respect some "short" film maker? Features are a real accomplishment.... I don't care who the forum leader is I'll still speak my mind... Was mentioning Sam whoever supposed to humble me?!!! I did look his name up on IMDB...he's made ONE short film....Hahaha.....Is that something to be proud of because that doesn't prove anything... I don't think a person who has made ONE short film should be a leader as that is not enough filmmaking experience... If anyone is interested I can really teach you stuff, or you can continue to follow blind forum leaders...
In their filmmaking careers everyone needs to make a choice... Become someone else's minion and produce mediocrity... Or be bold and passionate and make great stuff...
Since you already took your hat off Ortiz you might as well just get down on your knee's and bow to your directing lord M dot Strange!!!
Man, and I thought I was the biggest asshole on this site...guess not. But what do I know, I'm just a feature film director. :banghead: Look that one up on IMDB while you think about how not to be such a jackass to everyone on this site. Just because some people lack experience doesn't mean their opinions mean any more or less than yours.
**EDIT** I've never seen someone so high on thier own shit before than reading that guys site. A piece of advice, referring to yourself in the third person and claiming to have "invented" a whole new type of animation makes you look like a joke. You should keep that "Brother Quay meets AfterEffects" ego in check son.
In their filmmaking careers everyone needs to make a choice... Become someone else's minion and produce mediocrity... Or be bold and passionate and make great stuff...
Since you already took your hat off Ortiz you might as well just get down on your knee's and bow to your directing lord M dot Strange!!!
Man, and I thought I was the biggest asshole on this site...guess not. But what do I know, I'm just a feature film director. :banghead: Look that one up on IMDB while you think about how not to be such a jackass to everyone on this site. Just because some people lack experience doesn't mean their opinions mean any more or less than yours.
**EDIT** I've never seen someone so high on thier own shit before than reading that guys site. A piece of advice, referring to yourself in the third person and claiming to have "invented" a whole new type of animation makes you look like a joke. You should keep that "Brother Quay meets AfterEffects" ego in check son.
Rickmeister
08-27-2006, 03:01 PM
Man, and I thought I was the biggest asshole on this site...guess not. But what do I know, I'm just a feature film director. :banghead: Look that one up on IMDB while you think about how not to be such a jackass to everyone on this site. Just because some people lack experience doesn't mean their opinions mean any more or less than yours.
**EDIT** I've never seen someone so high on thier own shit before than reading that guys site. A piece of advice, referring to yourself in the third person and claiming to have "invented" a whole new type of animation makes you look like a joke. You should keep that "Brother Quay meets AfterEffects" ego in check son.
not to speak about the layout of his site, hahaha! what a joke... Anyway, considering the fact that everybody ignores that pile of horse shit for now we could continue with the 2min. film club.
My problem would be also the lack of other cgtalk members around here... Though I dont like the concept that much I agree that a good filmmaker has to go with it and just work it, and that way gaining more experience.
**EDIT** I've never seen someone so high on thier own shit before than reading that guys site. A piece of advice, referring to yourself in the third person and claiming to have "invented" a whole new type of animation makes you look like a joke. You should keep that "Brother Quay meets AfterEffects" ego in check son.
not to speak about the layout of his site, hahaha! what a joke... Anyway, considering the fact that everybody ignores that pile of horse shit for now we could continue with the 2min. film club.
My problem would be also the lack of other cgtalk members around here... Though I dont like the concept that much I agree that a good filmmaker has to go with it and just work it, and that way gaining more experience.
Rickmeister
09-04-2006, 04:00 PM
comon people! dont let it die allready... ;)
Pyke
09-04-2006, 04:37 PM
Please dont ban this guy...I wanna see Colin tear him a new one.
As for the short film-I like the idea. I loved watching the video interviews with Blur, and Pandemodium, (and even on the PIXAR Extra's) where they go through and take a look at the guys working on different sections in the studio. Its a cool insite into our industry, and one that we dont often see.
As for the short film-I like the idea. I loved watching the video interviews with Blur, and Pandemodium, (and even on the PIXAR Extra's) where they go through and take a look at the guys working on different sections in the studio. Its a cool insite into our industry, and one that we dont often see.
Rickmeister
09-22-2006, 11:55 AM
... *whispers* declared dead, until proven not so...
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