Fun animation. To sound!

[zehnerbomb]

:bounce:Please Crit
Thanks!

[zehnerbomb]

Hey there, over the weekend I did a little work on the hands and a linear on the rest of the keys. Still feels pretty soft. All opinions are welcome so feel free.

http://www.zehnerbomb.com/movies/camper_02.mov

Enjoy!

[FlaminGlow]

nice animation but it has something wrong, may be it gives you a feel that there is an outside sound and the man is trying to act like he is the one who say it or the sound moves him,:argh: don't know exactly.

[Wilson-3d]

Hey there zehnerbomb!
Off to a great start!
I like the forward lean at the start as he is shaking his right hand. Nice movement.

When he says "A man" and his right arm crosses over his face - I think that seems a little off. It may just be because you are crossing over his face, or it may just seem a little unnatural. Even if it is from a video you shot. Just a suggestion- "what are you crazy" BAM - just drop the arms there in the beat between "crazy" and "A Man" and leave them to his side with his elbows in and his arms bent at the elbows (or a something like that - but a more closed pose) Then hold the pose for a sec until he says camper and snap into the nice pose you have there. *Just a suggestion but over all I think it needs less key poses and this may be one solution. You have a lot of good stuff going on but he is almost hitting on every beat too much. I have had this same crit plenty of times on a really excited voice over like this. You can still pick one major pose that the others lead up to and not have a motion or key hit on every beat.

Another spot (I think you could do both if you are up for it) is when his left arm is up and he says "our" I think you can keep it out there and not bring it in for "song" just hold the right arm/hand and keep the left one coming over like you have it. It is just to similar to the other hand hitting the chest on "radio" and again I think you don't want an action for ever single word.

The arms and body falling at the end is great. You really have every thing settling in at different times with a nice pacing.

Hope that helps a little!
Cheers

[FDPC]

hi!

all was already say! but good animation and continuation!

[zehnerbomb]

Thanks to you all for the comments. I can't wait to make some changes!

[zehnerbomb]

Well, it has been a while since my last post and I wanted to see what you all think.

http://www.zehnerbomb.com/movies/camper_04.mov

Tried to put as much hold in as I could. I changed up "A Man" to something with at least a little more "thinking". I also reworked where he says "Song" to something a little more natural with the rest of the motion and follow-through.

I made a pass on the lip sync and went back and did some adjustments, so definitely, tips on that would be great as well.

Chat it up! :D

[zehnerbomb]

Any comments would be great!!
Please Crit! :D

[zehnerbomb]

anyone, anyone, testing testing...

haha, just kidding.

any thoughts/comments?

www.zehnerbomb.com/movies/camper_04.mov

[zehnerbomb]

Sorry, but I know that this can use revising.
Can anyone give me some feedback on this test?

[FaQ3D]

i think the starting poses when he says "are you crazy??" are too poor compared to what he is saying, maybe you should make your poses more "extreme"

the last part is nice, i like it.

[zehnerbomb]

Thank you for commenting.
Yes, I agree. I have been looking at it over the past week and I have kinda been noticing, but not able to really put my finger on it.
That part in particular I took pretty directly from the reference I shot. This is the first time I used video reference and I already see the issues that can come up when using it.

Thanks Again.
Any other comments?

[Craiger]

Act out your scene. Video tape yourself acting it out. Video reference is good to have. If you feel like you're forcing yourself to act what you "think" are good acting choices, they probably aren't. Not everything has to be an over the top gesture. Most of the time when people talk, they aren't really moving that much.

[Wilson-3d]

Well one thing is for sure. It is defiantly getting better and better. Nice work.

I think dropping the arms on "a man" and sticking the pose and then moving into "camper" really worked for it.

I think the lip sync is working well.

With the comments that some others made on the "what are you crazy" part I have to agree with. That is one of my biggest issues right now too. I act it out. Video tape it. Draw Key poses to exaggerate it some. Animate it. Then someone suggests the acting is not what it should be. And I usually agree with them. So instead of just tweaking some arcs you are resetting key poses. But hey that is the nature of the beast with animation. And we all love it. One thing is that the Right hand is coming up over the coarse of around 30 frames. If you look at some of you favorite animations you will probably not see things moving that slow, in action type dialogue at least. It gives it the dreaded 3d Under Water feel. Not that you cannot have a move like that in some cases but I think if you changed it a little in this case is could help.

So - just an idea - What about having him in a closed pose at the start. Similar to "a man" -(watch tweening the arms and having them both in the same position) while taking those first steps. The foreword lean you have will work with it. So he is closed when he says, "what are you" then have them move into "crazy" and stick your, or a similar, "crazy" pose there.

Other then that I would say keep watching the your arcs on the hands and arm swings.

Well I hope that helps out a little.
Chris

[zehnerbomb]

Thanks again Chris, I really appreciate the depth of your crits.
I am going to get right on sketching this out. I think this is a great opportunity to add some character to this test.
And thank you to the rest of you as well, I take everyone's opinion to heart when refining and working through an animation.

thanks.:thumbsup:

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