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Shadowbrooke 08-04-2006, 07:03 AM I lost my old sketch thread because I didn't update it too often. So I'm starting this new one and then I must get some sleep. It's approaching midnight here in the U.S (eyelids are barely open).
This painting is called "Adalla". She's the main heroine of the fantasy fiction novel I'm writing (working on chapter 2). Any critiques is most welcomed. Be honest and brutal, I really want to learn so don't hesitate to say everything that's wrong iwth it. I don't really crit people's work that much, most of the things I said have been "awesome" because most people here are very impressive painters; I'm too much of a novice anyway. But I'm trying.. :)
So leave a comment (you don't have to :)) And Thanks for viewing!
http://i69.photobucket.com/albums/i42/brookeq/adalla.jpg
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Iridyse
08-04-2006, 07:22 AM
She's very beautiful!I love the look in her eyes. I'd just say the armour needs stronger highlights.Where are her arms?
Great to see more work from you! :D
Salubri3i
08-04-2006, 08:19 AM
hey brooke congratulations on the latest piece. it's looking mighty good. :thumbsup: i am having a bit of trouble making out her arms though.
this one might be more of a preference, but her body type seems too large for the kind of face that she has. she seems more of a slender type than a "xena the warrior princess" kind. excellent work on the face. you've improved so much from what i remember.
hirii is right with the armor. you need to put on some stronger highlights in some places. you did great with it though.
oh and i love that hair. :love:(move over jean grey!)
Shadowbrooke
08-06-2006, 06:39 AM
Thank you Hiiri and Salubri. :) You're right, I don't see her arms either :argh: I worked out the full figure (with arms). This composition is still not complete; i plan to add foreground elements, the dragon under her feet, and maybe some other stuff behind her way back in the forest. Any ideas are certainly welcomed. The metal armor proved to be very difficult for me. Any tips on this is appreciated.
Thanks again for viewing.
http://i69.photobucket.com/albums/i42/brookeq/adalla2.jpg
Iridyse
08-06-2006, 07:03 AM
Kelandra, this is looking superb! You've done a great job :thumbsup: :thumbsup:
My only crits would be that her hands look way lighter than her face.As for the armour, I'm not very great at painting metal either. I think it looks much better with the additions though. I think if you colour pick the light parts, set your brush on colour dodge and lightly brush over them again, it could work. Look up some armour refs. I think I had a tutorial on painting metal by Mullins, not too sure. I'll dig it up for you :)
Her left foot looks a little off, but you sdaid there would be a dragon there so you can cover it up. Everything else looks fantastic. I really like the blurry/glow effect on the sword, I hope you're planning to keep it.
edit:I found them . Just some notes on reflections, but it might help :)
http://img50.photobucket.com/albums/v152/stupendousman/cylinder_cube.jpg
http://img50.photobucket.com/albums/v152/stupendousman/cone_reflection.jpg
http://img50.photobucket.com/albums/v152/stupendousman/car_reflection.jpg
http://img50.photobucket.com/albums/v152/stupendousman/flat_reflections.jpg
Dianae
08-06-2006, 12:13 PM
Wow, nice one! The head seems a little bit small compared to the body though... Lovely colours and expression!
The hands are a little bit too light IMO.
Edit : just read hiiri comment and my crits are the same.
Good work!
wow, that is really great! Lovely colors:) keep up the good work!
Lilie
08-06-2006, 07:02 PM
I agree with what has been said above and will add a suggestion or two about the overall armor:
I think the black part under her armor would need to have more highlights and be less black, it probably have too much contrast. i'd try to work some dailing in it, like a chainmail/ringmail which are often worn under plate armors.
Her swords doesn't seem to be held correctly, right now it looks like it is slipping ou of her hand. Unless it would be a two-handed swords but if so, the blade would have to be much longer.
And lastly.. I think some part of the plate armor seems too close to her body to be ''logical'' and practical. (but plate armor never was practical in history but eh. :P) By this, i'm particulary thinking of her protectors on her legs which seems to be too ''metal-like'' stockings and what is protecting the side of her hip. You should try to widen the upper part of the leg, the knee cap if you will. Remember that the knee is an articulation underneath so it has to have enough space to move properly. The same thing goes for the part on her hips. Just making it less close to the body could make it look more believable and practical. Pretty much like her shoulder pad, they have more volume and the peices aren't sticking real clsoe to each other. I don't mean to do anything dramatic though, but jsut tweak it a little. :)
I really like how you did her hair and face too. And you have a beautiful color scheme! And i really need to learn how to be more concise when writting my thoghts. Anyway, hope this helps. Looking forward to see this progress. :)
Salubri3i
08-08-2006, 01:23 AM
this is looking good.
i have a suggestion. right now to me the ornate design on the chest looks a bit "lonely". maybe a few friends elsewhere might bring in the theme a little more.
keep up the good work. :thumbsup:
Shadowbrooke
08-09-2006, 07:41 AM
Hiiri: I can't thank you enough for the useful notes metallic shading. I think they really helped me. :) :) :) I fixed the light hands too. I tried to keep the glow of the sword, see if you like it.
Diane: I realized that her hands were too big before, making her head looks small...I think. So I fixed the proportion and shading of the hands. Hope the proportions look ok now. Thanks for the crit!!
Pesa: Thank you :) I'm glad you like the painting.
Lilie: lol...take me some time to work through the stuff you mentioned. But I'm glad you mentioned them and took the time to comment on fine details. :thumbsup: I added the mesh under her armor and widen up the hip metallic pieces a bit. Also fixed up the metallic boots so it doesn't clash with the knee caps; she can move and bend now....I think :argh:
Salubri: I don't know if you could see it, but I did as suggested as added some ornate patterns (small ones) on the sides of her lower breast-plate armor.
So...here's the update. Hope you like it and don't hesitate to point out things that bug ya. I plan to add the dragon right under her feet (don't know if you could see the eye under the left foot). I want the dragon to be camouflaged into the environment. She's looking to slay a dragon but alas, she doesn't know that she's stepping on his head. Eek!!
Take a peek and thanks for viewing! :)
Brooke.
http://i69.photobucket.com/albums/i42/brookeq/adalla3.jpg
Iridyse
08-09-2006, 08:02 AM
Kelandra, you're making me go :eek: with every post! (I wanted to say wow but that's the closest emoticon to it). I love the work on the armour, close ups please! Her hands look muuuch better too, and the sword seems so magical, perfect for a dragonslayer ;)
The dragon looks a little flat right now, some bumps would be nice. But I know you just started on that, I'm sure you will make it look great. I think her right thigh neds some reflection from the glowy sword.
Superb work! :thumbsup:
Lilie
08-09-2006, 05:55 PM
I can only agree with Hiiri on the last update. :) The detailing of the armor and sword are looking really, really great!
I really like the concept of the girl stepping on her prey too, quite unusual. Can't wait to see the next update. Keep it up!
Oh and i didn't want to sound too overwhelming or picky in my last post either... =^.^=;;
Shadowbrooke
08-10-2006, 04:44 AM
Hiiri: I fixed her right thigh :) Here's a close up for you; I hope you like the armor. And gosh thank you for the comment :blush:
Lilie: i don't think you were picky nor overwhelming :) I should have clarified;when I said "take some time to work through the stuff you mentioned", I only meant in terms of doing the painting, not reading your comment. Oh please don't be offended. I apologize if I've said something stupid. :bowdown: I'm just thankful you post anything at all.
The close up:
http://i69.photobucket.com/albums/i42/brookeq/closeup-1.jpg
pap87
08-10-2006, 03:10 PM
I've been watching the last couple of posts with amazement. This has to be by far your best work yet. The metallic shading is superb, looks like really old worn metal with all the grime in the tiny details. The hair looks great, the face is excellent, and I think I ran out of words to comment on the skin.:)
Really looking forward to seeing how this looks finished.
frostblade
08-11-2006, 01:29 AM
Very nice work with the armour and overall image. Lovely details.
It may be a bit late to say this but the shoulder on the right is about 30% wider than the other one. It kind of makes the head and neck look off center on the body. it could be the hair hidding the ends of the smaller looking shoulder.
Shadowbrooke
08-11-2006, 05:11 AM
pap87: Thank you ^_^ I'm happy you liked the painting!
Frostblade: Thanks for pointing out the shoulders. I tried to fix the smaller shoulder and make them more ...balanced. But this is the best I can do :( Hope it looks a bit better.
Here's the finished work...I think. I worked out the dragon and the foiliage that he blends into. I don't know what else to add or fix though. All critiques are welcomed, I can still fix things since I haven't submit this to the finished gallery. I don't even know if I should. Hm...
Anyway,thanks for peeking :)
http://i69.photobucket.com/albums/i42/brookeq/ada.jpg
Iridyse
08-11-2006, 06:43 AM
It looks finished to me.Thank you for the close up, it was great! You painted the metal really really well, :thumbsup: .
Good job on camouflaging the dragon too :D Submit it already!
Gisaiagami
08-11-2006, 05:18 PM
wow very wonderfull
Shadowbrooke
08-12-2006, 05:25 PM
Thanks Sherya and Gisaiagami :)
I'm going to vacation in Canada, Toronto for one week and don't know if I'll have internet where I am. But I'll be vexing my brain for a new painting to work on. Thanks everyone for helping me with this painting. Big hug to all :) And see you in a week :)
Happy painting!
Brooke.
Shadowbrooke
08-14-2006, 10:12 PM
Hi,
I decided to edit to put in a rough composition instead of a close-up. Any advice on Lighting for this piece is really appreciated. Thanks.
http://i69.photobucket.com/albums/i42/brookeq/alle1.jpg
Salubri3i
08-16-2006, 01:30 AM
I bought this book on skin tones by chris saper. She says if your light source is cool then your shadows should be warm and vice versa. Also that shadows are the complementary colors of the light. Also keep the skin in shadow less saturated than the ones in the light.
This is another interesting piece Brooke. I'm already excited to see the outcome. Loved the previous one. :thumbsup:
pap87
08-16-2006, 02:46 PM
Nice start!
I'm guessing the main source of light is the lantern. Currently the girl seems to be lit from the front and only a little bit from the right.
Really what we should be seeing is a a strong rim of light on hitting her top right but the rest her, should be quite dark, at least not nearly as lit up she is now. For example the right side of her face (from our POV) will be lit up but the left side will be quite dark. The left half of her hair should have highlights and you could perhaps broaden the highlights on the right half of her hair. These are merely suggestions, don't want to sound like I'm telling you how to do your painting. Hope I made sense to you btw.
This could be quite a dramatic light setup if you pull it off well.
Good luck, heh!
frostblade
08-16-2006, 04:22 PM
Would you like to see the paint over?
Coz I did one to practice my own painting skills using pap87's crits.
Iridyse
08-16-2006, 05:47 PM
I agree with pap87. It would look really nice and dramatic if you kept the lantern as the principal source of light and have the light flood over the hair. It would look really really nice! (plus you would get to paint some wispy highlighted stray strands, which always add so much to the image). Some more darks around the corners of the image would look nice too. the thing hanging from her waist looks too bright though, unless it glows or something.
Another wonderful promising image from you, can't wait to see how this turns out! :D
Shadowbrooke
08-16-2006, 09:16 PM
Salubri: Thank you for the tips on skin tones!! Also, I may try to find Chris Saper's book on Amazon to learn more. :)
Pap87: The lighting tip was great! I tried to fix the lighting with this update. Your suggestions made perfect sense. I'm just not sure if I'm skilled enough to pull it off. (Pray for me.)
Frostblade: wow! I'd love to see a paint-over. I've never had one done before.. :) This will be interesting. Thanks!!!
Iridyse: (hi shreya:)) I fixed the thing hanging on her waist and tried to adjust the lightsource.
All in all I hope this works, I'm really trying...:( Thank you guys so much for all the critiques. I can't thank you all enough. :love: If it still doesn't work please tell me and I'll do my best to fix it.
http://i69.photobucket.com/albums/i42/brookeq/alle2.jpg
frostblade
08-17-2006, 12:46 AM
Well I went offline for a while and come back and you have pretty much updated the light source real good already. The hand holding the light is in her self casted shadow so that might need to go darker.
I tried to do the light on the other hand but messed it up and just draw another hand...same with the face. Not too sure if mine is anymore correct though.
http://img98.imageshack.us/img98/5301/kelcopyac5.jpg
Salubri3i
08-17-2006, 01:08 AM
hi brooke! thanks again for pointing out what i missed with my painting. :D
this is coming along nicely. i think the lower left part of the image (where her legs are) should have reflected light bouncing on the the shapes there from the opposite side of the light source. it might help prevent it from looking like a pool of shadow on the over all image. her left hand may need a bit of shadow. looking good. ;)
oh and i visited your webpage. very nice. i like the design. :)
pap87
08-17-2006, 03:02 PM
I'm glad you found my suggestions helpful. Frostblade's paintover is pretty much exactly how I imagined the picture to look. I think with yours the left half of everything is still too lit up especially her right (our left) hand. But it's definitely an improvement and that's what counts.
Btw, I like the colour scheme.
Shadowbrooke
08-21-2006, 01:51 AM
Hi :)
Sorry for the slow update. The last few days in Toronto was crazy before the flight home. I flew home and was exhausted so I wasn't painting much. :(
Here's the update the "Princess Alle" piece.
Frostblade: Thanks so much Frostblade for the paintover. It really helped! :) I liked the hand you did so much that I fixed her hand to match your paint-over. Thanks again for the awesome paint-over!! :)
Salubri: I tried to get some very slight hint of light to bring out the shapes of her legs. I think...I think it might work. Hm...And thanks for visiting my website. Glad you liked it :)
Pap87: Thanks for the critique! I fixed the hand in her shadow and hope that it looks better.
I don't know if it looks done...I don't know what else to fix or add, so any suggestions are most welcomed. :)
http://i69.photobucket.com/albums/i42/brookeq/alle3.jpg
And a close up:
http://i69.photobucket.com/albums/i42/brookeq/allecloseup.jpg
Thanks for viewing :)
Brooke.
pap87
08-21-2006, 07:43 AM
Yes! That's excellent now. Close-up is very nice.
Now I think you could broaden the highlights on the hair a bit more, they look kinda stripy now. I like how the hair is in the right hand side of the close up picture, that looks great.
Keep the work coming!
Iridyse
08-21-2006, 02:41 PM
I think it looks great! I'd just add some more stray backlit hair, just for the extra edge :)
Something like this? (http://img241.imageshack.us/img241/5936/forkelru7.jpg)
Everything else is just right :)
Gisaiagami
08-21-2006, 04:25 PM
wonderfull
the color e light
this wip very nice. The blue light hummmmmm very very good ;)
Shadowbrooke
08-22-2006, 04:02 AM
Pap87: I fixed up her hair. Thanks for pointing it out that it was stringy since I tend to do that when painting hair. Too lazy to zoom in sometimes...I know...bad bad Brooke :(
Hiiri: Thanks for the paintover. I added the stray hair like you suggested. Hope you like it :)
Gisaiagami: Thanks. I'm glad you enjoyed the painting.
So here is the update on this piece with the hair fixed. Enjoy and thanks again for all the wonderful help! :D
http://i69.photobucket.com/albums/i42/brookeq/alle4.jpg
Shadowbrooke
08-23-2006, 08:15 AM
Hi :)
I did this sketch today just to practice blending, shading, etc..I decided to experiment with doing the whole thing in photoshop, no pencil drawings, no scanning. It is much harder to get everything aligned right without first drawing it on paper. I had to flip canvas many times to adjust the features.
Hope you like this sketch. It's called "Ghostly Bride" because she was murdered on her wedding day. Enjoy and thanks for viewing :)
Brooke.
http://i69.photobucket.com/albums/i42/brookeq/ghost.jpg
pap87
08-23-2006, 03:24 PM
This new piece looks creepy, especially the eyes.
It's all looking pretty good, I just think you should darken the blood a it, say something like the lip colour. This would be especially true since she's dead.
Maybe even go for paler more dead skin colours?
Oh, and the hair's looking great so far.
Keep it up:thumbsup:
Iridyse
08-23-2006, 05:52 PM
Oh, that spider is scary!
Looks great so far (you paint these so fast!). In addition to the dried blood, I'd suggest adding more transparency at the edges of the veil. Also, I'm not an expert veils (ok, I haven't even seen one in real life :-/) but the way the ring sits around her head seems a little off. Something rounder and a little lower maybe?
The whites will be fun to paint!
Salubri3i
08-24-2006, 01:33 AM
the skin works from my point of view. maybe just a few more adjustments to make it more pallid but it's otherwise okay.
the blood may need more work to be a lot more convincing. i think the smear on the shirt should be pools of dark red. *reminisces the times he bled on shirts and hankies. shivers*
don't know what to say about the blood on the lips yet but there's something about it too...
Salubri3i
08-24-2006, 01:43 AM
enayla did a piece with the blood dripping all over the mouth... i think it was "ailil and roksana". that pic might help.
RalphDamiani
08-24-2006, 04:45 AM
I agree concerning the blood. Dry blood would be more appropriate.
Other than that I love the eerie quality and gloominess of your pieces, well painted.:thumbsup:
Shadowbrooke
08-24-2006, 04:05 PM
Pap87: Thanks for the suggestion :) I tried to desaturate and add more blues to make her look more eerie. Also made the blood darker too. Hope you like it.
Iridyse (hi shreya :)) I added more transparency around the edges of the veil. But alas I'm too lazy to reposition the veil itself. Sorry :sad:
Salubri: I darkened the blood on her dress as well with the blood on the mouth. I went to Enayla's CG Portfolio but couldn't find the piece you talked about :cry: Can I have a link to it or something?!
RalphD: Thanks for giving the critiques :) I'm liked you like the gloomy pieces...I usually do fairies and stuff. I have two sides of me, one is la-la-magical-land and one is dark and punkish...maybe that came from my very dark childhood. Hm.. :curious:
Thanks to everyone who commented and try to help me. Thank you so much! Hugs!
So...here's the updated version:
http://i69.photobucket.com/albums/i42/brookeq/ghostbride2.jpg
Gisaiagami
08-24-2006, 04:27 PM
hi friend :)
I liked this figure very. I am only finding half extinguished it with background. Perhaps if the skin of it was clearer, if it would shock with the veil, blood and background ;)
RalphDamiani
08-24-2006, 04:40 PM
The blood is now spot on! :thumbsup:
DoReMi
08-24-2006, 08:51 PM
I like what I see.
Great hips, good posture.
I read alot of about the highlights, due to the styl I wouldn't have noticed.
But it could use some. You decide.
Salubri3i
08-25-2006, 01:34 AM
here you go brooke. it's roksana you want to look at.
Ailill and Roksana by Linda Bergkvist (http://forums.cgsociety.org/showthread.php?t=200355)
Hope that helps. ;)
Shadowbrooke
09-01-2006, 11:14 PM
Hi guys :)
I'm working on a new painting. This is a part of it (the focus actually). But I'm having a lot of trouble blending her skin. :( Any helpful tips on how to blend the arms and chest area smooth is hugely appreciated. Thanks!!
Here it is. I will post the whole image when i fix the skin blending problem.
http://i69.photobucket.com/albums/i42/brookeq/spring1.jpg
Salubri3i
09-02-2006, 02:34 AM
darned. i want to help but i bet you're using photoshop and i don't know much about that software. :sad:
at any rate can i just say how good you've become at drawing the face? :applause:
Iridyse
09-02-2006, 05:20 AM
Wonderful work Brooke! Really nice colours and great work on the face and hair.
If you're using Photoshop CS2, (not sure about CS, but this won't work in v7 and down) try using a textured brush as a smudge brush and set it to scatter (adjust accordingly). For a better result, keep the opacity/pen pressure really low. Use this brush over the areas, it works beautifully:)
There's also a trick with the healing brush, but I don't quite like it because there's no pressure sensitivity to it. Take a white square canvas, and convert it into a pattern. (define pattern). Then use the healing brush set to pattern ,and paint with it. As you paint you will see a white stroke, but as soon as you release the pressure, it blends the area (in a little clinical manner though, I preser the smudge or regular brushing till that area looks ok).
Hope that helps!
Shadowbrooke
09-07-2006, 06:56 PM
Hi :)
Shreya and Ryan: Thanks again so much for the comments and help for the last painting!!
This is a new composition I'm working on. Sorry, no fairies ;) It is rather rough and I'll of course slave over the details later. If anyone have ref pics for the thin flowing curtains please send them to me (but you don't have to :)), and if you do...thanks in advance!
All ideas are appreciated, and thanks for viewing.
Brooke.
http://i69.photobucket.com/albums/i42/brookeq/shedemon1.jpg
Gisaiagami
09-07-2006, 08:36 PM
is fatal woman
congrats
the peace is nice.
Salubri3i
09-08-2006, 01:59 AM
does it have a double light source? i mean is there also light coming in from the room? coz if not then she should be moonlit which should make the lighting pretty much like the piece you had with the lantern.
if you want you could also establish a certain emotion on her face... something that would go with why she's wielding a knife. :D
this is a very interesting piece with lots of good possibilities. :thumbsup:
frostblade
09-08-2006, 06:57 AM
Your window isn't open for the curtains to float :(
Also really hard to find ref for transparent curtains at night time setting. All have daylight. if you google image search "curtain window" you get a lot of curtain pics to figure out the form of the cloth.
The leg that is on the right looks a bit like someone else's leg, doesn't look connected enough I think. Might have something to do with the arm and shadows spacing. Might also be because she has too much hair and it's very dark for the skin lighting.
There's a lot of emotion in the piece but I think the uncomfortable leg posing makes her look less of what her face and knife in hand is about.
Shadowbrooke
09-09-2006, 05:57 AM
Hi,
Gislaine: Thanks!! ^_^
Ryan :wavey: The picture does have 2 light sources, one is from the room on the right, and one is the from the backlit moon. I learned from the lantern piece that the backlit light source was too dark so I wanted to experiment with an additional light source this time. For her face, I'm adding some demonic features...not too much, just some bumpy scales here and there. Some guy broke her heart, and she's lost in her despair and madness. She was stabbing at his photo. And thanks, I hope it turns out decent. :) Thanks so much for the help!!
Frostblade: You're right! :argh: the window wasn't opened! How silly can I get? (ok..don't answer that.) I fixed the window and the curtain, hope it looks right now. As for the leg, I corrected the shadowing job on her body and shortened her hair. I hope she looks more natural now...eek!!
I'm adding some trees and twig behind the window frame...and the cracked wall...and the fish bowl with the dead gold fish..ok...back to work, back to work. :( I mean, yay.
Oh, I also noticed that somehow the faces of my characters are looking very similar...like I've gotten used to a certain facial proportion and couldn't break out of it. Any cure for this madness?!?!
So here's version 2:
All crits are welcomed of course and thanks for checking out the work! :)
Brooke.
http://i95.photobucket.com/albums/l146/feyarts/shedemon2.jpg
Iridyse
09-09-2006, 05:36 PM
Hey Brooke!
Just popped in to say I -love- her expression right now! Such piercing eyes, it's fantastic.
About the curtains, these sort of look tattered and torn, but that somehow adds to the mood.I think her left foot is getting cut too abruptly though.
Shadowbrooke
09-10-2006, 02:24 AM
Hi,
Shreya: Thanks for the comment. I think you are right. So is Frostblade. Her leg was too awkward. It was sticking out in a weird position and it kept bothering me while I was working on it. I don't think its composition is not working either...:(
Here's a close-up for her face that I already worked on. But I don't think I'll finish this piece. Too many things gone wrong and I'm not happy with it. I'm pretty sad for giving up the painting, but there's no point detailing a weak composition, it just makes the mistakes look more conspicuous.
Thanks you guys for being very helpful and supportive, but I'm sorry I have to disappoint you. :( :( :(
http://i69.photobucket.com/albums/i42/brookeq/face-1.jpg
pap87
09-10-2006, 10:04 AM
It's a shame you stopped there. But the cropped version above looks good enough on it's own too.
Just for the record though, the interior light in this picture should have probably been yellow whether it was from a candle or a light bulb.
Nice concept though.
Iridyse
09-10-2006, 10:48 AM
I agree, I think the cropped version looks nice too:) Cool texture!
*hugs* Don't worry about it, this still turned out very nice! But I understand if you don't want to continue. Get started on a new one! :)
CyborgJA
09-10-2006, 03:24 PM
UUUUU ! Beautiful pic!
Looking forward for updates !
Gisaiagami
09-10-2006, 11:58 PM
ohhhhhhhhhhhhhh the face is wonderfull kalendra friend congrats
the progress is very very nice ^^
Shadowbrooke
09-13-2006, 07:44 PM
Hi guys :)
Thanks for the commenst on the close-up.
Pap87: Thanks for the tip on the yellow lighting. I was afraid that the warm light will make her look less menacing...but I guess a little cool vs. warm contrast would've been nice. Thanks again for the great advice :thumbsup:
Iridyse: Hi Shreya! :) Thanks for hug! I did start a new painting...still slaving over it :)
Cyborg: Thanks ^_^
Gislaine: Thanks. I'm happy you're working on the portrait again.
So here's my acrylic painting. It took me a whole week, mainly to wait for the darn paint to dry. I would've used oils but I'm more comfortable with acrylics...I think. It's my first big painting (24x18in) since...eons ago in high school. eek!
All right, go ahead, have a good laugh at my horrible traditional skills...argh. Sorry for the poor quality, my digital camera is really, really small :(
http://i69.photobucket.com/albums/i42/brookeq/FleetingFall.jpg
Gisaiagami
09-13-2006, 07:49 PM
Something is being well interesting. Congratulations.
I am fighting again of my picture : P
frostblade
09-14-2006, 10:08 AM
That's good!
I like the colours and the brush marks :)
I like how your real paints are more vibrant and less black in it over all.
I can't use real paints, end up with abstract stuff... as far as I go with traditional is pencils (black and white)
RalphDamiani
09-14-2006, 02:15 PM
Nothing horrible about your painting Kelandra. I like very much your use of colour there. It actually induced me into a little story of the coming of the Winter, where the woods bathed in autumn dusk are visited by the Winter Queen as the first snow of the year begins to fall.
If your painting can entice the imagination of the viewer without the presentation of the obvious, you know you've accomplished alot. :)
Shadowbrooke
09-15-2006, 08:07 PM
Hello :)
Gislaine: Thanks so much!!
Frostblade: I'm glad you liked it. It's true I'm very shy about using black when it comes to traditional paintings...don't know why I go black-crazy in photoshop. :argh:
RalphD: Thanks! The story you told me is really cool :)
Here's a few close-ups of the new painting I just finished and submitted (crossing fingers nervously). Hope you guys enjoy them! :)
http://www.brookecanvas.com/webimg/hand.jpg
http://www.brookecanvas.com/webimg/aeyonface.jpg
http://www.brookecanvas.com/webimg/butterfly.jpg
Iridyse
09-17-2006, 02:23 PM
Ah Brooke, your paintings always have such a beautiful etheral quality to them. Don't you ever lose that! I love the new one. The colours are beautiful and I see less greys in the face too! Great work! :) I really like the acrylic painting too. I used to use so much Indian Yellow in my landscapes too, I love that colour.
frostblade
09-17-2006, 03:11 PM
The new princess painting is very pretty :)
This is by far the best skin tone piece you have made when compared to the rest of the folio. As Iridyse has said... due to less grey in the face and I think so too.
I like the hair in this, there's lots of it but not too much so that's a nice balance, not top heavy like in some previous ones.
If you want to know how to improve upon this then I think you need to use a background that is not as dark, because the darks steal the show from the focus which is the princess in this case. It makes the eyes go from the top of her head straight to the left and right edge of the canvas because of the dark triangle it creates.
On the arms, chest... sometimes you have to be quite careful of the shape and nature of the textures you use to make the shading appear less air brushed etc...Sometimes these textures can make the skin look like it has problems like scars and bruises instead of glamorous and glittery.
Shadowbrooke
09-18-2006, 01:46 AM
Hi Shreya : Thank you for the kind comments. I want to see your landscape! :bounce:
Hi Frostblade: Wow thanks so much for the critique. I added the dark part of the sky to actually lead the eye to her face, but I guess it backfired. Oops :( As for the shading of arms and chest...alas I still have problem blending...I don't know what brush to use and how to dictate the brush strokes correctly, so in the end it looks like airbrushed. :( :( Can I bother you for a tutorial or a step-by-step paint-over? Please?! (if you don't have time it's ok :))
Thanks again for the wonderful critiques...off I go to work another painting, hope to improve...
Brooke.
frostblade
09-18-2006, 03:08 AM
http://img99.imageshack.us/img99/5444/brushte5.jpg
Flow is 50% on mine... you can have it a bit lower if you like.
Shape dynamics is off... you control the size with [ and ] when the area gets smaller but don't make the brush too small or it looks too tight and ends up with no texture. Use this with the paint and erase technique and can't go wrong.
When you find your colours being too grey, make a new layer and set it to soft light and paintover it with the original colour or something more saturated to make it less grey or just to change the look of that area...brighten it up or something.
The paintover parts on white so you can see what that part looks like. (obvious some of these colours don't make sense without it being applied as soft light so it looks funny)
http://img169.imageshack.us/img169/3706/paintnw9.jpg
and the result of it ontop of yours
http://img169.imageshack.us/img169/4995/paintresultyt3.jpg
Salubri3i
09-18-2006, 05:21 AM
that paintover is gorgeous! hmm... maybe i should learn photoshop myself. :D
as for the princess, i only have one problem with it and it's the nose and philtrum area. i can't quite explain it but to me it doesn't look right. at any rate it's a very gorgeous painting. all the elements come together very well and the details look great. ;)
Shadowbrooke
09-20-2006, 06:34 AM
Frostblade: wow thanks so much for the awesome paint-over! I will certainly do this for the next painting!
Ryan: Thanks for the comment. I see you're right about the nose but I don't know what to fix either :argh: Maybe I was just trying to not make her have the same face like the girls in the other paintings.
I wanted to paint but don't want to work on my painting, so I decided do sketch a portrait of Mack. I think he's the best comic book writer/artist in the world :) The sketch took about 20min.
Here's the pic:
http://i69.photobucket.com/albums/i42/brookeq/mack.jpg
and the ref found on Google:
http://i69.photobucket.com/albums/i42/brookeq/mackref.jpg
c&c are always appreciated. Thanks! PS: no grid system was used. I hate it too much, even though it's a good method.
RalphDamiani
09-20-2006, 07:29 AM
You missed some of his chin. :D
But as always I love your style. I'm particularly fond of the princess with the butterfly, wouldn't change a thing there. :buttrock:
CyborgJA
09-20-2006, 08:27 AM
It's a good portrait!
I love the palette too even if I prefer to use a bigger gap between lights and shadows in order to obtain a more "realistic" 3D view, but of course, it's a matter of taste.
I also have benefits using more photos or references of the subject that I have to describe. Using this trick I can obtain what I call a 3D idea of his/her face in my mind and this help me when I want to do a real portrait (as you have done) and not a photo-copy.
Looking forward for updates,
Serena.
Gisaiagami
09-20-2006, 11:21 AM
wow very nice
i not understand the brush sparcle frontbaby
You progress your divine friend ^^
I walk stop with mine…
Salubri3i
09-21-2006, 01:07 AM
20 minutes and you have that? people around here work very fast. i think the best i'll have in 20 minutes is a stick drawing. :D
that's a nice portrait brooke. considering the time and the method i'd say the likeness is pretty good. i like the fact that you did this without a mechanical method(grid system). I think this will help train your eye more. I take the same approach. :)
Shadowbrooke
09-22-2006, 08:00 PM
RalphD: thanks! :) I think I missed his chin too he he...
CyborgJA: Thanks for the tip of using many ref pics to get a 3D feel. I will definitely keep this in mind when I rework this portrait..eh...some time later...
Gislsaine: Thanks! Saw your new elf wip on here and GFX. I think Sherya's new step-by-step tutorial will help you a lot in laying down shadows and highlights for your work.
Salubri3i: Hi Ryan. Actually Helzer is the fast one, he's got a whole composition in 20min. I just did this face without worrying about proportions and stuff. Thanks for your comments and critiques, as always.
I'm working on a new painting called "Lady of the Forest" (I think). I was wondering if the lighting of the painting (especially on the figure) is correct. I really want to get the lighting right before going into futher details. Any tips is alway greatly appreciated. :)
Thanks for checking out my work!
Brooke.
http://i95.photobucket.com/albums/l146/feyarts/Ladyforest1.jpg
Gisaiagami
09-22-2006, 09:01 PM
I am really in it I wait…
To a doubt you uses hardness in 0% to block
And ours its new wip is wonderful. I want to also see you back in mine wip too
Salubri3i
09-23-2006, 01:33 AM
i like the way the skintones are being executed(i understand it's unfinished?) it's clean and you have some transparency going on in there. ;)
crits... let's see... i'm not sure what you're planning with the composition but i think her pose may merit an iconic approach. if you still have the figure on a separate layer you may want to try moving her to the center of the piece and see if that works better in terms of comp.
as for anatomy... i'm thinking if you're doing an elongated figure on purpose.. . based on her head size the entire figure is somewhere around 10 heads.
it's nice to see how much progress you're making. keep it up! :thumbsup:
Iridyse
09-23-2006, 06:27 AM
Brooke, her skin tone looks FANTASTIC! Her torso and her arms have such a beautiful soft shadow. And I love the way her hair falls over her breasts (I've been meaning to do something like that too, something Alanis Morisette-ish :D). I just think there's a little too much "activity" going on around the cloth and the background, makes it a little hard to read.
I'm really looking forward to more updates!
pap87
09-25-2006, 10:50 AM
I totally agree, the skin is so much better than in your previous paintings. Just too many wrinkles in the cloth, you made it more complicated than it should be. But I like that it actually blends with the background so if that's what you intended then go for it.
CyborgJA
09-25-2006, 04:40 PM
Mm...if I follow your request and I fix my eyes on lighting I can tell you that you have done a good work. I do not see errors.
I don't know what you have got in your mind and how you have decided to develop this pic but in my opinion I think you can play more with value. As example, you can put a big, bright spot of light right on her body and fade the background to shadows. Using this "trick" you'll obtain a stronger movement in your pic. On the other hand, if you want to describe a gentle, soft and 'air' figure, I suggest you to add an horizon line to the forest, with a warm and diffuse light coming from it. You'll obtain an enormous depth.
Waiting for another portrait,
Serena.
Shadowbrooke
09-26-2006, 04:47 AM
Hello,
Wow thank you all so much for the wonderful tips! :love:
Gislaine :) Thanks. Hm...how do I block...well...at the initial stage I usually use opacity at 100%, then I blend the colors. It depends really, on what effect I want to achieve. I'm waiting for some updates on your work too :)
Salubri3i: Hi Ryan. Thanks...I hope I improved somewhat (whew...) Frostblade really helped me with the wonderful paint-over from the previous work. Eh...sorry I usually merge the layers so she's stagnant for now. :( I'll add something to her right ?!?! She is very tall indeed he he...I've been reading too much "Cutting Edge Anatomy for Comics" I guess, where heroes are supposed to be nine to ten heads tall. I hope she doesn't look too bad :(
Iridyse: Hi Shreya! Wow thanks for the comments. I made the background darker so hopefully it doesn't look too busy. Let me know if the updated version still need to have less distracting bg, I'll fix it if I can :)
Pap87: Oh gosh...you have no idea how much pain that cloth has inflicted upon me. :( I wanted to do a good drapery since I've always been fearful to do flowing fabric yet love the effect.
CyborgJA: Thanks for the tip. :) I lighted her right and darkened the background. Hope you like it! I'll try to add the horizon and the diffuse light...I'm not sure how to pull if off though, but I'll do my best.
Here's the updated version, I worked mostly on the drapery and hands. All crits and comments are much appreciated! :) Thank you again for looking (and helping :) )
Brooke.
http://i95.photobucket.com/albums/l146/feyarts/ladyforst3.jpg
Gisaiagami
09-26-2006, 09:06 AM
love the artefact in the head
and the face is very nice
ohhh kalendra
i love this image really
Iridyse
09-26-2006, 09:17 AM
I forgot to mention this the last time, but I really like the wings. Is she a Valkyrie?(I love that word). The extreme background looks -beautiful-, with a little bit of light through the branches and all. It's just the middle ground which looks too much like the folds on her dress. Hmm, maybe you could try a warm/cool separation for the figure from the middle ground? Personally I think it would look a lot better if it was treated the same way as the extreme background.The figure is so beautiful, nothing should take the attention away from her :)
Salubri3i
09-27-2006, 12:45 AM
Salubri3i: Hi Ryan. Thanks...I hope I improved somewhat (whew...) Frostblade really helped me with the wonderful paint-over from the previous work. Eh...sorry I usually merge the layers so she's stagnant for now. :( I'll add something to her right ?!?! She is very tall indeed he he...I've been reading too much "Cutting Edge Anatomy for Comics" I guess, where heroes are supposed to be nine to ten heads tall. I hope she doesn't look too bad :(
ah i get what you mean. comic figures especially the women tend to have long legs. personally, i'm a fan of Jim Lee. :D my previous comment about the height was more of an inquiry really. i already stepped on a cat's tail once. :D
you have improved a lot and i think it's a great thing how you picked up what frostblade showed you and applied it very well. the results are obvious in this image and it's very good. this is looking great Brooke. hope to see more of it soon. :thumbsup:
frostblade
09-27-2006, 02:03 AM
The skin looks very nice :) I'm glad I could help out.
I need some help on bg's hehe.
Love the hair :)
I just think the hand is bit small, like the fingers aren't long enough for the arms.
vandlister
09-27-2006, 03:28 AM
cool ^^, love the hair and the wing , the mood is great too but i found the root or the tree behind is abit complicated , ya agree with frostblade , the hand do look abit small . keep up the good work ^^
Shadowbrooke
09-28-2006, 11:28 PM
Hi Gislaine! Thanks for the compliments! I'll peek into your works in a bit ;)
Iridyse: Hi Shreya! I got rid of the flying cloth behind her arms and added vines to the tree as you suggested. Hope you like it! :)
Salubri3I: Hi Ryan. Thank you for the kind comments. Sometimes I really feel like quitting because I think I suck :( but to hear that I'm improving gives me courage to go on...Thanks. Oh, and quote, "I already stepped on a cat's tail once..." was it my tail?!?! (meow...)
Frostblade: Hey there! Glad you liked the hair. I fixed the hands proportion. Looks better :) Thanks!
Vandlister: Thank you ^_^
Here's the "almost finished" version...I don't know what else to polish off or add...but all suggestions and crits are certainly welcomed! The wings on the head were ref from owl's wings. Hope you guys enjoy this painting and thanks again for viewing :)
Brooke.
http://i95.photobucket.com/albums/l146/feyarts/ladyforest.jpg
Face close up:
http://i95.photobucket.com/albums/l146/feyarts/ladyforestface.jpg
Salubri3i
09-29-2006, 12:29 AM
Oh, and quote, "I already stepped on a cat's tail once..." was it my tail?!?! (meow...)
nope. it wasn't you. :D
about the image... i think only one word can sum up my impression so here it is:
WOW. :love:
Iridyse
09-29-2006, 06:27 AM
I can't take my eyes off her! The wings are beautiful and the petals add a nice touch. I'm a little sad at losing the far background(you made it darker)- it was so lovely, but now the attention is on her:)
Congrats on a very well done piece Brooke! Lots of chocolate for you! :D
Gisaiagami
09-29-2006, 01:26 PM
wow wow wow
the face angelical very wonderfull
wow wow wow o.o
Cris-Palomino
09-29-2006, 08:05 PM
Brooke, the wings came out beautiful. Really nice job on them.
Cris
Got a mail with a link to a beautiful painting today. Great work!
frostblade
09-30-2006, 02:06 PM
The wings are lovely :) So much detail and so soft and pretty :)
Nice touch with the flower in hand too :)
Hands are nice :) Maybe the thumb could be a bit longer since she looks so tall.
Maybe I'm just use to seeing hands with more definition like wrist bone, knuckles, tendons, reder finger tips stuff like that...
Shadowbrooke
10-03-2006, 11:18 PM
Hello :)
Thanks for all the crits and comments for the painting :love:
Salubri3i: Thanks Ryan :)
Iridyse: Hi Shreya! :) Wow thanks for the chocolates...I think I gulped down most of it in seconds...;) Sorry I lost the convoluted tree, it was competing with the figure...sadly, I had to take some vines off. But I'm glad you liked the painting! :) Thanks! I'm also having a twisting tree in this piece and hope that it enhances rather than interferes with the figure like the last one :(
Gislaine: Thanks :) Say...are you working on something new?!
Cris: Thanks! Glad you liked the wings. :)
Elethain: Thanks ^_^
Frostblade: yea...the hands are hard to do...I've got this new work with more reds on the hands...see if you like it! Thanks so much for the crit!
Here's a new work I've been working on, still in rough stages...I haven't textured anything yet...at this stage I'd like to check on anatomy and lighting. Any crits and tips are always very much appreciated.
Thanks for checking out my new work! :)
Brooke.
http://i95.photobucket.com/albums/l146/feyarts/gardenofeve.jpg
Edited and posted a larger version for Frostblade
frostblade
10-04-2006, 12:52 AM
Is that a screen capture of the image in zoomed out view?
It's hard to tell if there are really problems because looks a bit jaggered in many places.
The hands are very nice in this one :)
I think the collar bones and blue shadows on the upper arm letting it down a bit. When you get shadow areas on skin, it's better to make the shadow area more tanned color rather than more blueish grey.
The moon's outline looks very sharp, soften it a bit will help make the moon look more real and in the distances a bit more.
Gisaiagami
10-04-2006, 11:32 AM
very nice composition, i luked the face, the hair...but the snake...it still seems me stranger o.o
I do not know if it is the head of it… But I go to wait more ups. I total am stopped due to time. Wanting to finish mine elf and tb the others. But indeed discouraged also.
pap87
10-04-2006, 01:20 PM
I guess you could implement a similar lighting scheme to this one as with the lantern girl. The moon would create a bright rim of light around the character. That will help show the translucency of stuff like the dress and her hair. In reality she would be a silhouette, just like you did the tree, so it might be good to darken her up a bit as well, but that's up to you.
Frostblade is right about the collar-bones. I think the shoulders look fine where they are, just the collar-bones don't join up with them.
To me it looks like the snake's tail probably shouldn't curl up that tightly.
Well done with the head and especially the hands! :thumbsup:
Iridyse
10-04-2006, 05:30 PM
You're getting really good with hands :D And she has such a pretty face:)
I think the only thing that is bothering me right now is the snake (python?). The head seems rather big for its body and the taper is too abrupt. Is there some particular kind you have in mind?(oo that rhymes)
Like Frostblade said, I think you could soften up the moon, and the edges of the wall too. Make them a little irregular, it will add more interest. What's the brown patch on the left?
Shadowbrooke
10-04-2006, 11:47 PM
First, thanks for all the feedbacks. :)
Frostblade: I'ved softeded the moon and changed the angle of her shoulder. I also fixed the shadow colors, tan instead dark blue. As always, thanks for the tips!
Gislaine: I hope you have time to paint soon. It's ok if you're busy though :) Glad to have you around. Yeah, after you pointed out the snake I was like...hm...he does look very odd...so I fixed let it. :)
Pap87: I thought about the lantern piece, but that scheme was way too dark to bring out details :( For this one I guess it's similar...I'm adding the bluish/purplish invisible light source on the right to brighten things up a bit. Still, I've darkend the figure. Hope it works and thanks so much for the suggestion.
Iridyse: Hi Shreya! Yeah...Gislaine also didn't like the snake I did...honestly I didn't like him either. I want him to be a python so I looked at some refs and fixed him. Hope the update python looks better. The wall still looks sharp at this stage because I haven't gotten to it yet...I just used the selection tool to rough out the composition so it looks very, very sharp. Sorry for that, but i'll eventually, and slowly, get to the sharp edges when I texture it. :(
The patches are shadows for some vines on the wall later...I think.
Thanks everyone for helping me, it means a lot! :) :) :)
Here's the update, if there's still more probs please don't hesitate to point them out, I'll do my best to fix them. Thanks again for viewing!
Brooke.
http://i95.photobucket.com/albums/l146/feyarts/gardenofeve2.jpg
pap87
10-05-2006, 01:45 PM
I honestly liked the hair the way it was in the previous picture with the softer highlights, but that's just a personal opinion. The skin has greatly improved. Before she looked a bit like a ghost whereas now she's alive.
The snake should have small, tight highlights to make it look smooth and slithery.
Overall the colours look so much better now.
Nice work! :thumbsup:
CyborgJA
10-05-2006, 02:09 PM
Mm..there's something that doesn't run with skin's color.
I think that the real and unique way to understand how to play with light is to have experiments with it so this is my suggestion :
- take a reading lamp with 2 light-paper sheets, 1 orange, 1 azure
- go in front of a mirror and switch off all the lights in this room.
- switch on only your table-lamp and put over it your orange sheet. Change it with the azure one. Can you see how your skin changes?
Now...can you tell me why I'm writing that you can improve the skin's color?
Looking forward for the answer,
Serena.
vandlister
10-05-2006, 03:25 PM
wow , i like the colour scheme , the character is nice , aizzz >< i think i should go back and pratice more on drawing hand , the hand of ur character look great this time . hmmm i think the colour of the lip can be more blue , so it could fit into the colour scheme and the hair does look too glossy >< , maybe soften it or blend it to the background can help ? having some background colour in ur character skin tone will make the whole composition look more united. anyway hope this suggestion can help >< correct me if i'm wrong ><
Salubri3i
10-06-2006, 06:59 AM
I like how you're treating the skin recently. I do think that Serena might be on to something there. Actually I'm so curious about the answer I might try it myself. I just hope my mom doesn't catch me. She already thinks I'm a bit wrong in the head. lol
In some ways I also like the new hair. They now look like little snakes(was it the intention?) which kinda help the theme a bit more I think.
pap87
10-06-2006, 03:59 PM
I remember you mentioning in another thread that you worked with 3ds Max for a bit. If you still have access to that or any other 3D program I would advise using it for lighting and shading reference. I learnt so much like that.
In the case of this painting the answer to the skin problem could be as simple as putting a layer of blue over the skin using the "hue" or "color" blending mode and a low opacity.
Shadowbrooke
10-08-2006, 09:58 AM
Hi all,
Thanks again for the help and crits.
Pap87: Thanks for the tips on using 3D Max for lighting, but alas I can't use 3D Max anymore. My PC crashed not long ago and now I use a Mac. I just downloaded a free trial version of Poser and Maya...still fumbling my way through all the buttons! ^_^
Serena: I did as you told me to and here are the observations:
1. the orange paper has bright yellow high lights
2. the blue looks very odd with purplish highlights and range from dark blue to light blue depends on its distance to the lamp.
Though, from color theory I think that dark blue is the shadow of orange and that dark orange is the shadow of blue. Several factors could contribute to the possible errors of the experiment: the type of paper used, the intensity of the light source, and observational errors (human senses are not perfect).
ok...so now tell me what i'm supposed to see already!! :)
Vandisler: Thanks for the tip. I indeed blend more of the background color into her skin :)
Ryan: Hi, I was wondering if you tried Serena's experiment and have different results from mine. Hope your mom didn't catch you ;) The snake-like hairdo actually inspired the whole piece :) thanks for noticing it!
Well, here's the update. i think it's almost there. If there's anything else to polish off please let me know :) And thanks so much for all the wonderful help! I really truly appreciate it. I'm learning a lot from you guys and hope to improve more.
Brooke.
http://i95.photobucket.com/albums/l146/feyarts/GardenofEveIV.jpg
pap87
10-08-2006, 11:43 AM
Great work! She has a nice glow.
The snake looks a bit like stone to me but it's still great.
Well done! :thumbsup:
frostblade
10-09-2006, 02:22 AM
This is looking great. The snake is lot better than before and the new flowers are a nice touch.
I'm having so much trouble myself with different color light settings...curse magic lights lol. It's like paint it normal then use colour overlays to change or what lol...
Ferguson
10-09-2006, 03:51 AM
I know what you mean about feeling like too much of a "novice" to give any decent critical feedback... I feel the same way. What I will say is what I love about your work. You've got a wonderful painting style, and you are able to incorporate a great amount of detail into your work rather seamlessly... What really blows me away though is how you manage to get such beautiful skin tones to your characters!! This is always something I find myself struggling with, but it seems effortless to you.
I really love your work and can't wait to see more of it. :)
CyborgJA
10-09-2006, 01:08 PM
First, I'm happy cause you have done this experiment and you have approached it with the right soul.
Second, yes, your observations are right. Totally. Now...try to connect them with your picture. When you used orange sheet your skin had bright yellow areas, while, with the azure one, it had got "purplish highlights". Why? Simply cause you added the light's color upon your skintone obtained by a totally white light.
Then...another thing. Colors change also volumes appearance. I've done this one for you (using an orange and a blue sheet ... I apologize for the quality but I've gor a point-and-click camera :D)
http://aureamediocritas.com/images/itchings/PerKelandra01.jpg
So.. which light have you used to describe the scene? Which light (with its color) have you used for her skin?
@pap87 : yes, she can use a blue layer but this trick changes only the hue and not all lights' interactions = blue sunglasses not the description of moon's light.
See you soon,
Serena.
Iridyse
10-15-2006, 11:59 AM
*pokepokepoke*
Now you have no excuse ;) mwahah!
Shadowbrooke
10-16-2006, 04:59 AM
Hi,
First, thanks to everyone who helped me with the last painting :)
Oh Shreya...I was so happy being lazy and peeking at people's work..now since I got poked I had to go painting :P
Well, here's something I did...She's Heleane, lady of Tania. I have a long story in mind, but the other illustrations regarding this story will to come later. This painting has no background...whee...Just a little portrait of the character, hope you guys enjoy viewing and thanks again for stopping by :)
Brooke.
http://i95.photobucket.com/albums/l146/feyarts/ladytania.jpg
Salubri3i
10-16-2006, 05:24 AM
she is a very beautiful lady. :D i bet the knights are scrambling to be her champion in tournaments. ;)
i especially love how you did her charming eyes and the rendering of the lips. at the risk of sounding like i'm nitpicking(maybe i am. :D ) the only two things i don't like are the patches of green on her right cheek and at the base of her neck. maybe soften the shadow beneathe the nostril's hole also. a matter of personal taste i guess, this painting is already very good. ;)
Iridyse
10-16-2006, 05:26 AM
Wow, a poke can get me THAT much? :D
*pokepokepokepoke*
She's so pretty! Wonderful work Brooke! You're getting really good at skintones but her tiara and dress are so good too.
I think the tiara is angled a wee bit wrong though, but it's not that obvious in the first glance. If you decided to change that, remember that the beads should still fall straight down, gravity and all that. The lower part of her nostril might look better if it was thinner too :)
Just being nitpicky :P
CyborgJA
10-16-2006, 08:46 AM
Ehiiii ! Such a beautiful face ! SO sweet ! Brava !:bounce:
frostblade
10-17-2006, 09:22 AM
This new picture is lovely :)
The skin tones are very nice. I think the shadow and highlight marks (shapes and edge finshing) makes a world of difference when painting and I guess that's what we're nit picking on now.
poke*
Cris-Palomino
10-17-2006, 09:42 AM
Oh, oh! Shreya's gonna go about poking all of us now, I betcha!
Lovely piece, Brooke.
Cris
pap87
10-17-2006, 11:50 AM
:drool:!!!
No more comments!
Shadowbrooke
10-25-2006, 11:19 PM
Hello :)
Thanks so much for all the comments & crits on Heleane :) I've fixed the tiara beads and perhaps will add it to my portfolio tomorrow just for fun.
Ryan: I know what you mean about the patches...I had problem blending them while painting. I hope to improve on this soon. thanks!
Iridyse: Hi Shreya! lol if you keep poking I'm going to die of painting exhaustion :eek: Thanks for the tip on the beads falling straight down due to gravity.
Serena: thanks! You're doing pretty awesome stuff yourself :)
Frostblade: yea I don't blend so well :( Still practicing.. But thanks for telling me what to work on, it really helps.
Cris: Hi! I see you've got more wonderful collections lately. I never knew there were that many artists beside the usual famous ones...Looking forward to see more works from you as well.
Pap87: Wow thanks! I'm really happy you liked it.
So here's the painting I've been working on. I think it's almost finished...my eyes are hurting from just staring for many days... I'm hoping to get advice on the lighting and anatomy, oh, and blending or anything else that I might have missed. Thanks so much again for helping me :) And thank you for viewing!
Brooke.
http://i95.photobucket.com/albums/l146/feyarts/Autumn-Witch.jpg
CyborgJA
10-25-2006, 11:37 PM
She is really beautiful!
You have asked about lighting...mm.. I think that you can play more with lamp's light cause now, it is switched on but it desn't produce any change on her body. In my opinion you can treat her hair as you've done with the butterly near the lamp :)
The other thing I see is that her belly is quite...'wide'. I know that you painted the dress for hours and now you'll hate me buuutt..why don't you use a more 'sexy' line? :)
One more thing....
the necklace is incredible! :drool: I WANT IT ::drool::drool::drool::drool:
Shadowbrooke
10-25-2006, 11:49 PM
Hi Serena :)
I'll try to play with the lighting and see what happens. As for the hip...I'll see if I can take away some chunk of meat...he he...
Oh, the necklace is originally designed and copyrighted by Chantal Malette. You can find and buy it here:
http://18thcenturycorsets.smugmug.com/gallery/41788/1/1464418/Large
I love her jewerly designs, but I have to sell my laptop to get them ugh!
Cris-Palomino
10-26-2006, 12:05 AM
Brooke...Beautiful piece.
My one crit is the hand near the collar. There should be a natural curve at the tops of the knuckles. If you look at your hand, there is a fanning arc across the fingers at each set of knuckles to the tips of the fingers. The collar she is holding also appears to be close to the skin, not held away. If it's the former, the hand is going to bend toward the body, shortening the look of the knuckles; the latter, will pull the fabric away. In either case, the arc across the knuckles would need to be maintained.
Beautiful lamp and overall palette...very rich autumnal colors.
Cris
Gisaiagami
10-26-2006, 02:44 AM
kalendra
I envy you in the good sense, of course. He is really wonderful.
Salubri3i
10-26-2006, 04:56 AM
new piece looks great as usual. i'm luvin the details on the clothes! :love:
my only crits are... and i don't know how far along you are in this work so forgive me if i'm getting ahead of you; the bare skin area around the breast and shoulders are looking a bit flat. maybe define more of the forms in there to make it look better. also the upper part of her dress seems to me like a corset... i think that you could make it hug her form more and even be tighter around the waist.
it would also help the realism if you can differentiate the way the parts of her clothing takes in light. the corset part should be more shiny, i can already see you applying this but it is very subtle. maybe make it more obvious. just a personal preference for me though. ;)
i'm holding my breath and await the result... so try not to make me wait too long. :D
Iridyse
10-26-2006, 07:26 AM
She's beautiful, as always! She has a really intense gaze, I really like that.
I pretty much dislike roses (in real life) but you paint them sooo beautifully, I'm beginning to get quite fond of them. Damn it,you're going to make me paint a rose :D
I agree with pretty much all the comments that others have given before me. I did a paintover to illustrate what I think could be a bit better(rim lighting to the hair, shadow below the thumb, added more curved to her figure etc etc). It's all a matter of taste of course. I hope I'm not stepping on any toes with this( I'm always a bit reluctant to do paintovers. I have done them so many times in the past, then scrapped at the last minute thinking that the person wouldn't like it)
Anyway, here it is :) *hides*
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v466/hiiri/brookeptovr.jpg
Again, I really really like this piece! The oranges are just :love:
Runecaster
10-26-2006, 12:43 PM
I am really so glad to see all the black gone from your skintones. What a massive and incredible transformation your lovely ladies make without it. Very, very nice details everywhere.
frostblade
10-26-2006, 12:52 PM
very nice colours and details!
*poke rose painting tips pls lol
I really like her clothes too.
This is also a HUGE improvement on painting eyes.
I think there is a huge problem with the breasts.
In the original and paint over.
The space is too long...they also have 2 highlight parts (this gives the impression of having 2 sets...instead of just one).
I think you need to change some of the shading on the top she's wearing to help solve this problem.
Shadowbrooke
10-28-2006, 03:11 AM
Hi guys,
Thanks so much for all the constructive critiques! yay :) I've fixed everything we discussed..hope this update looks better than last.
Serena: I fixed her waist and hope she has a "sexier" line now. I also played with the lighting on her hair and added some more butterflies. Hope you like it! I actually enjoyed painting a new corset...no worries!
Cris: Thanks for pointing out the hands! I've fixed the hand (painted a new hand actually) that has the arc that you said. It looks better now, I think?! Thanks again for explaining the arc to me, I'll keep it mind also for further paintings! :)
Gislaine: Hey there! Thanks for the compliment :blush:
Ryan: Hi! Oh dear are you blue from holding your breath ? :D Just kidding. You're very kind. I painted a new corset on top of the old one, due the change of her waistline, I made it more shiny. Let me know if you want it to be shinier ha ha...
Shreya: Hello miss-poking-poke! :D I don't mind paintovers in general. I always appreciate people taking the time to do them for me. The lighting you did on the hair really helped! Thanks so much again for the paintover!
Renee: Hi there! Glad to hear from you. Thanks for the kind comment. I hope to see more of your works as well :)
Frostblade: Hello! he he...I see what you mean by her having two sets of breasts! Yipe! I changed the shading on the new corset so I hope she looks like she has ONE set of breasts now. And POKING back at you! ha ha...I'm sure you and Shreya can paint much prettier roses than I do. ;)
So here's the update, I hope you guys like it. Don't hesitate to point out things that don't look right. Thanks very much for all the wonderful help! :love:
http://i95.photobucket.com/albums/l146/feyarts/Autumn-Witch3.jpg
Edited: worked some more on drapery:)
eirenicon
10-28-2006, 03:45 AM
I'm glad you don't mind paintovers, because that's what I have to offer :) It's just that the left arm seems slightly off. I overlayed the outline of a proportion sketch to show you what I mean. The length of the arm is good, but the elbow seems a bit lower than it should be (making the upper arm appear too long). This could be due to the sleeve obscuring its true length, as well as the armpit being a bit high up. Note that the position of the upper arm and elbow do not change when you turn your wrist, which also means her upper arm is slightly out of place. Oh, and she could be a bit slimmer for a woman in a corset, but I can't say I mind ;)
http://timothyd.com/art/kelandra-po.jpg
CyborgJA
10-28-2006, 08:53 PM
weeeeee good work ! I love it ^_________^
Shadowbrooke
11-08-2006, 07:46 PM
Thanks everyone again for helping me with the last painting. I learned a lot, as usual. This is the new painting I've been working on...Still needs A LOT of work; I started it a few days ago...
Feeling kinda sad today. I wonder how long it takes to be a really really good painter ...it seems to take forever for me :( Anyway...I don't want to bum other people out along with me.
As always, C&C are most appreciated. Thanks for checking it out.
Brooke.
http://i95.photobucket.com/albums/l146/feyarts/Spider-Song.jpg
Gisaiagami
11-09-2006, 12:30 AM
wow wow wow :bounce:
wonderfull, wonderfull
the tones, the image
all
friend, you draw used reference?
Salubri3i
11-09-2006, 12:59 AM
i think you shouldn't aim to be a really really good painter brooke. i think you should simply aim to be better than you were yesterday. never set your sights on a horizon you can not see. you will loose your way. ;)
with that said just take a good look at the ones you did before and the ones you're doing now. the progress is very visible and your style is more refined with each new piece.
CyborgJA
11-09-2006, 10:29 AM
i think you shouldn't aim to be a really really good painter brooke. i think you should simply aim to be better than you were yesterday. never set your sights on a horizon you can not see. you will loose your way. ;)
with that said just take a good look at the ones you did before and the ones you're doing now. the progress is very visible and your style is more refined with each new piece.
I agree with what you wrote about her progresses but I think that anyone can be free to dream. You approach is surely very 'solid' and 'objective' and it surely runs in our "work-scene" but -in my personal case- I must dream and feel unsatisfied cause this is the 'fire' that drives me to higher levels. Of course, this is my personal opinion :thumbsup:
What I want to write here is....never stop to dream! Never !
Runecaster
11-09-2006, 12:44 PM
I don't think I've met or talked to a single artist who didn't doubt themselves. I think it's part and parcel of being an artist.
I think in some cases we may not know where we want to end up -- so sometimes it's hard to find the path we need to be on. It's especially hard for those of us who are self-taught and cannot get clear and precise directions on a daily (class) basis.
We have more insurmountable obstacles because we're self-taught -- but that also makes all our triumphs that much sweeter.
I'd argue that you need to wallow when it feels like you're down - and to feel excited and happy when you're up. It's all valid! :) And, try the Daily Sketch Group (http://forums.cgsociety.org/forumdisplay.php?s=&daysprune=&f=130) -- sometimes that is the perfect opportunity to just henscratch and get something out!
pap87
11-09-2006, 02:14 PM
It seems your sadness is reflected in the latest painting. I really like the expression.
Before you go any further though, take a look at some of you older work and see how far you've come, and surely you'll be pleasantly surprised. All of us feel despair every now and then (well at least I do).
Oh, and thanks for popping by my thread, heh, it's been dead for some months now, too lazy to update! :D
Keep up the great work.:thumbsup:
Pegahoul
11-09-2006, 02:33 PM
OOh! Your sketches are really cool!
Crit for the Spider Song, you should pay attention to palm and fingers anatomy, and maybe the drapery of that pink cloth. The way it drape and fall around the hand doesn't look real to me.
I love her head accessory ^^
vandlister
11-13-2006, 06:11 PM
kelandra , it been a while since i log in to ur thread , wow , you been doing greatly ^^
you mood and colour scheme are still a great one ^^ , love how the colour blend.
hmmm for the last painting , look a bit messy , guess too much detail inside , maybe reducing some spider web might help out ? anyway , all are great one ^^ hope to see new update soon ^^
CyborgJA
11-13-2006, 06:23 PM
Aḷaḷaḷaḷaḷ!
Any update? :bounce:
frostblade
11-14-2006, 02:09 PM
*poke
sigh... I'd do some painting if I wasn't away from home hehe.
This latest painting is looking really good!
Shadowbrooke
11-28-2006, 01:50 AM
Hi guys,
Sorry for not updating this thread. I've tried to experiment with working on my own to see if I can get anywhere... I guess the results are not bad. I just feel really lonely without you guys :(
I've just finished the Spider and Etherae ones...I'm a little bit happy with the results (and thanks to all the took the time to comment :) ) But then I was sad to see other artists' works...they're soooo good! Sigh...oh well... I need more and more and more practice...
I did this sketch tonight, don't know what I'll make of it yet. I'm just going to post my works here for a long while...I feel horrible for flooding the gallery with my stuff.
http://i95.photobucket.com/albums/l146/feyarts/elf-1.jpg
MichaelZHsee
11-28-2006, 02:26 AM
this is unbelievably a 2 stars rated thread,after a thorough look through this thread,i must say that most of the work here has a certain quality and infact,its been improving.u have my ****'s for this.loving all the progress u've made here and i'm looking forward to see more.keep it coming mate:thumbsup:
Salubri3i
11-28-2006, 06:13 AM
don't feel bad brooke. your work is amazing and your progress more so. :thumbsup:
what i would suggest is that you break out of your comfort zone and continually try things that you found difficult previously. if you can't hack it step away, gather knowledge and when you've learned a few things, go back and have another go at it again. ;)
CyborgJA
11-28-2006, 06:35 AM
You are lucky cause I don't know english "bad words" :twisted:
Come on, don't tell us that you had no progresses or that your pics are bad ! Is anything in our lifes easy? Mm I think no. But, do you have a passion for illustration? I think yes. So, try to enjoy with yout works, think how much you feel "good" when you paint ! ^___^
Your last pic is very balanced and I LOVE her blue and intense eyes. Here in Italy we tell that each artist paints humans as s/he is so I think that you got beautiful eyes and long long hair.
Is it right?
If you want to polish it (and I really suggest that) I think you should give more 'air', adding few pixels of bg on both sides.
Looking forward for updates!
Serena.
frostblade
11-28-2006, 10:31 AM
Your progress is amazing :)
Well I say you're better than me in progress. IF i get stuck then I'm stuck...and painting something to death. Your paintings have a lot more life.
Gisaiagami
11-28-2006, 11:06 AM
i love you paint and drawing.
Very nice...
pap87
11-29-2006, 08:24 AM
Here in Italy we tell that each artist paints humans as s/he is so I think that you got beautiful eyes and long long hair.
I find that to be very true.
Seriously, Brooke, your last finished work was excellent. Everything in it was a definite improvement, I honestly didn't find anything bad about it. Sure some things could be better but such is the case with EVERY painting no matter how good the artist.
And under no circumstances should you feel bad about posting your work here.
Hope to see lots more! :)
Shadowbrooke
11-29-2006, 02:30 PM
Aw...thanks everyone for being for kind to me!! Big BIG hugs to you...
MichaelZHsee: Thanks so much for your very very kind words and encouragement. I sooo do appreciate it :) I will try to improve more!
Ryan: Thanks for the push to try new things. I'll certainly try to find more challenging things to paint! ha ha...
Serena: Please don't scold me :( I do have a passion for illustration... I do! :bounce:
I actually don't look like my paintings at all (eep) I have dark brown eyes and long black hair, very Viet-looking ;) I guess I could wear blue contacts he he... I will try to go back and work on the bg as suggested. Thanks!
Frostblade: I don't think you ever get stuck. You're just a perfectionist, and that's always admirable! And I LOVE your paintings btw; I learn so much from just watching you work.
Gislaine: Hi there! Thanks for the comment. I see that you're practicing drawing and doing well. Very proud of your progress as well :)
Pap87: Aw.. thank you! I do feel kind of bad for posting in the gallery sometimes... everyone deserves a chance to showcase his/her works and I feel like a hog for posting 2 paintings in the same month!
Thank you everyone...you guys are the sweetest!!
So...here's my new work. I found this photo of a grave from Google and just thought I'd do my own interpretation from it. I do as Ryan suggested and try a more difficult pose than a girl standing with pretty dress...I want to add more to the paintings but those tiny crazy details will have come later. I think the woman might have lost her baby...since the coffin is so small... All crits are appreciated as always, and lots of thankings for viewing!
Photo:
http://i95.photobucket.com/albums/l146/feyarts/WomanOnCoffin.jpg
Painting:
http://i95.photobucket.com/albums/l146/feyarts/sadgrave-1.jpg
Gisaiagami
11-29-2006, 03:36 PM
Wonderfull job
Very nice, i am impressioned. The girl very very nice
And thank you a lot for you words...
Pegahoul
11-29-2006, 05:01 PM
Nice remake ^^. The head maybe too big? or the perspective not quite right...
Salubri3i
11-30-2006, 12:02 AM
I do as Ryan suggested and try a more difficult pose...
wow. talk about getting straight to work! haha.
well you've done a great job so far. i'm with pegahoul on that perspective thing. her head should be leaning away from the viewer more(unless it was your intention to change the pose a bit, if so then she just has big hair and the jaw might be a bit out of shape, but maybe that's just nitpicking. lol).
if i may suggest, a more dramatic lighting will stregnthen the impact of the piece. although this is still a wip so i forgive me if i'm getting ahead of you. ;)
nice touch adding the raven. gives the viewer a better idea of what you're trying to say. ;)
A very nice concept! But this time why don't you try to go a step further? Don't get me wrong I have loved all your past work, but maybe try to go abit more extreme on realism this time? I'm sure you would be able to!
Keep it going!
MichaelZHsee
11-30-2006, 08:50 AM
dont mention it my friend,i'm looking forward to see how u futher develope this artwork:)keep it coming:thumbsup:
Iridyse
11-30-2006, 10:47 AM
Hey Brooke! Sorry for not replying earlier. I like the portrait-that stare has so much attitude behind it, I really would like to see how you would develop this :) The latest piece looks very promising too, I like the interpretation and the mood looks just about right. I think the perspective of the woman's head could be changed a bit though, but maybe it's just me. The addition of the raven (crow? but raven is so much more poetic, hehe) is nice!
Don't worry about flooding your own thread! *pokepokepoke!*
aumortis
11-30-2006, 11:13 AM
Wow. Your arts are just awesome :< I wish to draw like that xD
About the last one: at first I thought that this rosary held by crow is something else.. XD but it's awesome anyway :thumbsup:
Runecaster
11-30-2006, 12:49 PM
Brooke this latest with the grave is /awesome/ I love the concept. I'd get rid of the black in her skin, even if its grey all around her, I'd just make a less saturated grey to shade instead. I dunno, that's just me. I'm stupid and don't know anything either LOL
Mebbe try a 100% opacity hard round brush and let the pen pressure do the opacity -- just a shot? Use the spatter less? No soft round anywhere near the face unless you're doing soft light touch ups?
I'm making no sense to anyone else reading this but I know you know what I'm talking about LOL
I really really like this concept, a LOT. Then again, I'm like into graves and esp into big old crypt graves. dig it big time :)
arnocob
11-30-2006, 07:39 PM
:)
Hi!
Nice!
Your "world" is far from mine (rather industrial and enviro),...and that's what I like in it!
Your "girls portraits" have always a part of mystery and story.
After, looking in your thread, I can say that You improve a lot.
I'll look for updates.
Bye!
Shadowbrooke
12-04-2006, 07:11 AM
Hello :)
Just thought I'd put up a small update before I merged all the layers again.
Gislaine: Thanks for the kind words. Hope you're having a good time drawing and painting :)
Pegahoul: Hi, you're right about the head being big...it's a weird quirk I've got. When I draw the first sketch the head is big, then later I have to adjust it... BIG pain in the neck! Thanks for pointing it out, really appreciate it.
Ryan: As said, yes her head was big :( I purposely changed her head perspective because I didn't like how she was looking away from me!! Just kidding. I'd just like to show more of her face, to show that she's crying. I'll have to add the tears afterward. Funny how I just fixed the lighting at the moment you mentioned it...lol...ESP!! :D
Elethain: Thanks for the comment! As for going extreme on realism... I can try...whether or not I could pull it off is another matter. :sad: (Gulp).
MichaelZHsee: What can I say? I'm utterly grateful for your kindness. :)
Iridyse: Hi Shreya! Hm...I don't know what to do with that elf yet. I'm stuck on the sad weeping statue one. I made the bird larger to look more like a raven (hope you like it!)
I've lowered her head and adjusted the size...but please oh please can I keep this angle? I hope it doesn't look too shabby. (?!?!) Oh, and updates on your beautiful painting please, don't make me go over there and POKE you!
aumortis: Hello :) Thanks for the compliment. You could start a sketchbook and many many kind people will help you as they've helped me. Everyone is really sweet here! In case you already got one, send me a link! ;)
Renee: Glad you liked the theme. I see you've been working extra hard lately :thumbsup:
I use many brushes, depending on the texture I want to create, but mostly just hard round; I use spatter to texture the skin. The black in her skin was from the tonal stage of the work. I hope it's gone now. Thanks for helping me, truly appreciate it. :)
arnocob: Thanks for dropping my "world" ha ha...One day I'd like to create a BG like yours and put a figure/figures in it. Maybe...maybe for the next one...hm...
Thank you again everyone for the awesome critiques; they really helped me out! Thank you tons!
Here's a little update... it's still very rough. I just wanted to check the lighting and anatomy before diving into details. Thank you again for viewing!
Brooke.
http://i95.photobucket.com/albums/l146/feyarts/sadgr2.jpg
Frostie
12-04-2006, 07:47 AM
OMG Stunning! Really great work. Only thing I can see that I dont like is those pillars... They look a bit flat. other than that awsome work!
Cris-Palomino
12-04-2006, 07:54 AM
Hi, Brooke.
Hope to see you develop that little elf...very nice.
I like your latest...be careful with the columns. You rounded them, which is fine. You have to decide if they have half-posts or full columns. Check the perspective. You have a down view, but are looking up at the columns.
Keep going, girl...love the hair.
Cris
Iridyse
12-04-2006, 08:07 AM
WOW
The skintone looks fabulous! You have really really improved there. The light on her hair is really nice. It -might- be a wee bit too strong for moonlight though (I'm assuming the light source is the moon) but by itself it looks wonderful. Try a little blue-er variation on it maybe? I think you can push the darks on her skin a little more too (especialy on her breast and the underside of the arm, it shouldn't have so much light there, there's no possibility of reflected light either (because of the black cloth).
The pillars seem to be falling outwards, but IMO it's not such a bad thing, I like the bit of drama that adds.I also like the stone/moss textures that you have there.
Really pleased to see this update,, very very well done! :D
Gisaiagami
12-04-2006, 09:22 AM
Really
color skin amazing amazing
Remember the Anne Rice style of vampire
The best work :D
Congratulatiuons
frostblade
12-04-2006, 11:49 AM
lovely work :)
like Iridyse said about the amazing skintones, I second that.
Runecaster
12-04-2006, 01:36 PM
Big improvements!! Just do what you did to the arm to the rest of her and you're golden :D
The shadow under her chin is maybe too dark, it caught my eye too much I think, but that's just a viewer thing.. not a big deal.
The columns perspective is off, but it's not a huge deal to me personally, but people will nitpick it big time, so you may want to fix that.
As for going extreme on realism... I can try...whether or not I could pull it off is another matter. :sad: (Gulp).
I'm certain you could!
Frostie
12-04-2006, 05:31 PM
ye, looking at what u have done already, you are on the way to realism at the moment!
CyborgJA
12-04-2006, 07:54 PM
Her face and hair are INCREDIBLE. Really !
I can only suggest you to use the same light (colour and intensity) that you used on her body on the crown, + gauze too.
Can't wait to see more updates !
Lilie
12-04-2006, 07:59 PM
I can only agree with Cyborg, what she said above. The hair and face looks really beautiful. The hair in fact looks so soft, it somehow 'fits' the mood.
The lighting reminds me of a lone sun ray making it's way into some sort of crypt... Lovely. Will be watching your progress on this Kelandra. :]
Salubri3i
12-05-2006, 12:04 AM
i think everyone must've mentioned everything there is to mention and so there's nothing left for me to say but WOW. :eek:
:D
pap87
12-05-2006, 09:44 AM
Damn, this is looking really good! No crits to add. I'll just be watching this with a keen eye.:buttrock:
Diegoth
12-06-2006, 06:55 PM
Anatomy's right, lighting is right, you can already go to the details, don't worry :D
I love your sketches Kelandra! Keep on!
Greetings!
aumortis
12-09-2006, 03:32 PM
Wow. Now she shows a bit more of her boobs [sorry, I had to say that! xD]
Her hair is just awesome *_* best blonde hair I've ever seen! her face is pretty much pretty [XD] too. But there's one small "but" in this whole awesomeness that I see xD I'm not sure why but now pillars in background look kind of.. flat. On previous version of pic they didn't look like that. I don't know why, sorry :( [maybe you should check perspective?]
And yes, I guess I'll start my sketchbook thread but first I have to finish that damned Fairy xD and get rid of artblock that haunts me lately.
arnocob
12-09-2006, 08:33 PM
:)
Wow!
Your painting transmits a lot of emotion...and , you are close to the finished step.
Skin, hair are very well rendered (I couldn't do that, that's sure!)
My hobby is the perspective, and as it was already said, the columns are off...
It's a pity for a such great piece!!
I took the liberty to do a quick paintover(not perfect)...I hope you don't mind, and hope it helps.
bye
http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f335/arnocob/sadgr2arnocobpaintoversorry.jpg
Shadowbrooke
12-13-2006, 08:34 AM
Hello :)
Thanks so much for the feedbacks!
Frostie: yes. I see that the pillars are flat. I've fixed it in the update so hope it's not flat anymore. I'm paranoid about it now...eek! And thanks for the vote of confidence! :)
Cris: Thanks for the tip. I did a perpective grid and lol...those columns were all over the place. I guess I learned a lesson not to think of backgrounds as an after-thought. It's like pulling teeth trying to fix it.
Hi Shreya! : Aw..thanks for being to kind about the falling pillars... it really cheers me up! I've made her skin more blue and darker like you suggested, hope you like it! The light source is the moon...but I've been criticized before for not having contrast in my work so I over compensated...sorry :(
Frostblade: Thanks! ^_^
Gislaine: HI!! I so do love vampires :D They're cool spooky stuff.
Renee: Fixed the perspectives on the pillars...thanks for not nit-pick, but in general I don't mind. If you guys don't catch it now someone else will always catch it later. So it's good to have things pointed out so they can be fixed.
Elethain: ha ha...I try...I'm still not where I want to be. But I can't think about that...it'll just make me depressed again.
Serena: Hi! Hope you like the update, I try to polish other things as well.
Lilie: Hello, thanks for checking out my work! :) I really appreciate your feedback.
Ryan: Aw...thanks :)
Pap87: Oh gosh...now I'm nervous because I don't know if the update is living up to expectations; eep!
Diegoth: Thanks for the greenlight on diving into details and for looking at my sketches. Don't hesitate to nudge me if you have any new works.
Aumortis: Yeah the columns used to be rectangular as in the ref, but I changed them into round columns and just made life harder on myself. :( Hope you're doing well on your waterfall fairy piece. :)
Armacob: WOW thanks for the paint-over! It really helps to have your paint-over to double check after I fixed those pillars. Can't thank you enough for taking the time to do this!!
So here' s the update, I'm still very very paranoid about those pillars. Let me know if they still look flat (sigh) ...
Thanks again everyone for the wonderful feedbacks!!
http://i95.photobucket.com/albums/l146/feyarts/mourning.jpg
Gisaiagami
12-13-2006, 09:18 AM
details is very cool
love the detailon hair :D
CyborgJA
12-13-2006, 10:51 AM
You did a perfect work with folding and lighting.
The only thing I can suggest you is to control left foot's shadows : in my opinion you should fade it to the same value of the ground.
Can't wait for updates !
frostblade
12-13-2006, 11:18 AM
Loving the hair and cloth work... and learning from this too
You might want to soften the edge of the arm's underside so the cloth color bleeds more onto it coz of the reflected light color.
Runecaster
12-13-2006, 12:26 PM
To be perfectly honest, that black fabric is the triumph here, it's gorgeous and so well done! Love her hair jewel too. You got rid of the scratchy brush, the quality of everything looks so much tighter! I dunno if that is what you intended, but for me as a viewer it is a huge improvement to me.
I think her rump might have a little bit too much light intensity and I agree about the foot (but I didn't notice until Serena mentioned it :D ) and well done on the columns too!
This is just an awesome piece Brooke! :) Let's see more!
Shadowbrooke
12-14-2006, 04:05 PM
Hi guys :)
Gislaine: Thanks sweetie! I've been spying on your sketchbook and have to say you're doing very well. Keep going! :bounce:
Serena: I couldn't really see the foot from the ref so I just had to "wing" it and once I was happy with it I was afraid of darkening it. But you're right, it's too bright and I've fixed it in the final version :) Thanks for pointing it out.
Frostblade: Thanks for the suggestion! Fixed it!! I don't know what you can learn from me though...cuz I learned it mostly from you. :)
Renee: Aw...I think you are kind as well ;) I've darkened her "rump". Ha ha...all my years speaking English I had to look up what "rump" means...go figure!
So here's a few close-ups for you, and the bigger and final version in the portfolio if you want to check it out. I'm going to call is done and go have a coffee!!
Cheers and thanks so much for all your help!!
http://i95.photobucket.com/albums/l146/feyarts/woman-close.jpg
http://i95.photobucket.com/albums/l146/feyarts/raven-close.jpg
JeroenDStout
12-14-2006, 06:40 PM
Hey Kelandra :)
I see now that you're finished with it - if you don't mind I'd just like to show you what I think you could do with lighting in this image... it might not be what you're looking for, but perhaps it of some use :) I think I'm more or less a fan for stronger lighting, so I tried to (rather blurry, I must admit) weave that into your drawing:
http://img350.imageshack.us/img350/9274/mourningnx0.jpg
This kind-of lighting makes it somewhat more harsh... to me it makes my eyes flow along sharper contrast lines easier.
Anyroad, I like this quite a bit, so I'm looking forward to new drawings :)
Shadowbrooke
12-14-2006, 07:07 PM
Hi JeroenStout,
thanks for the paint-over, but I think the lighting on your paint-over is too harsh, moon light is not like photographic lighting at all; it's soft and delicate, not like a camera man is holding a bright light directly over her head or any kind of over-lit back-yellow lighting.
And please don't smudge all over my finished work. I usually don't mind constructive paint-overs during the painting process, but please don't take my fisnished work and stomp all over it. I didn't post this painting in the "Paint-overs please thread" by Steven, so please have some respect for my painting. Thank you.
Brooke.
JeroenDStout
12-14-2006, 07:37 PM
Sorry :) I'm trying 'getting involved in the wip area,' so I didn't know where to aim still and just tried something. I'll take notice of it in the future.
Take care,
-Jeroen
Salubri3i
12-15-2006, 12:05 AM
So here's a few close-ups for you, and the bigger and final version in the portfolio if you want to check it out. I'm going to call is done and go have a coffee!!
Cheers and thanks so much for all your help!!
ah brooke. what can i say. it's an awesome piece. i love what you've done to this one. i kinda miss the style of the previous pillars though... it was more... romanesque(?) kinda gave you a feeling it's an old crypt for highborn people and in a way matched the beauty of the lady in mourning. unless of course it was your plan to put a contrast between her and the background. ;)
i think my most favorite part in this painting is the way you executed the expression. she looks like she's in deep grief but tries to be strong. "mourning with poise" :D
great job. :love:
pap87
12-15-2006, 08:53 AM
Well done, you've really raised the bar now.
Congrats :thumbsup:
aumortis
12-15-2006, 04:44 PM
Woot! You finished it! xD close-ups look really beautiful! I especially like her face.. and her hair, it looks soo charming *_* [can actually hair look charming? O.o] I can't say anything about whole picture because.. I can't see it in your portfolio >.>
About my fairy.. actually I keep working on clouds because I'm not satisfied with them. On the other hand, the more I try to make them look better, the more they look worse to me, heh. I guess I'll leave them the way they are and put it in portfolio [that sounds scary..], I hope to find a way to do that.. xD
Gisaiagami
01-28-2007, 08:27 PM
hi kalendra
miss you :D :D
miss you painting :D
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