will Softimage port to OSX?

[ggg]

The X11 news caught my attention for the same reason.

I guess it depends on how much XSIs user base has grown and will grow for new seats compared to just replacement XSI seats of old SI3D seats. As far as I know there is no rumour that it will be ported soon.

the XSI community is still small

I too would like to see it on OSX but not until they support more than game cards. But that rumour is true, the ATI and Nvidia pro cards will be supported soon, would be nice if it included 3dlabs too.

the site devoted to xsi to apple has been down for along time now
but some recent perhaps unfounded rumours still pop up occasionally:
http://www.architosh.com/news/2002-06/2002a1-0628-softimage.phtml
apple buy avid?
http://www.architosh.com/news/2002-06/2002a1-tb-softimage-calme.phtml

I prefer the OS easy rebuild on the mac but the processor still a fair amount slower and the cost render preformance much less

[ggg]

http://cgw.pennnet.com/Articles/Article_Display.cfm?Section=OnlineArticles&SubSection=Display&PUBLICATION_ID=18&ARTICLE_ID=166522
will DS be next :) ... then XSI

[policarpo]

dude you just need to friggin' relax.

what do you care what I use.
:drool:

[visualboo]

hehe :eek:

[sebek27]

i'm just saying that Mac's are horrible for 3D which is really strange since they say that they are SOOOO FAST... i prefer PC's, although Mac's are really good when it comes to music and video I guess... not trying to start a Mac vs PC war, but it seems that people who are into Mac's, are so stubborn and never think anything is good on PC's, it's like they are narrow minded and won't even try a PC, a PC person on the other hand would try a MAC and not bitch and wine about it...

[policarpo]

Sebek you are so off base and you "are" trying to throw flames into the arena.

i am a PC user and have been for 5 years now, but now I am considering a new purchase...that new 17" PowerBook is friggin' sweet!

Also dude...i've used LightWave3D 7.5 on a Dual Ghz G4 in a production environment and it is totally usable...and it was for a 30 foot by 40 foot poster...so don't whine to me about something that you know nothing about.

when you talk of narrow minded individuals be careful where the mirror is positioned.

i merely asked if anyone knew if Softimage were porting to OSX...that's it. Why did you have to try and turn it into something it is not?

man...some people....
:love:

[ggg]

policarpo just ignore the troll who is the only one here being "narrowminded" and "bitching and whining " about it.

avid has a long history with apple that went on the rocks even before apple bought final cut but avid is porting the symphony which IMO is a bigger and more important highend push for the mac at this time than Maya

[policarpo]

cool...thanks ggg...:buttrock:

[raffael3d]

those products were available for Mac alreday since a long time, the news is that they are now also available for OS X and not only for OS 9.

[visgoth]

Personally I'd rather not see softimage waste resources on porting to OSX. I'd rather see the existing irix, win32 and linux versions be developed further.

That being said, if they just dropped softimage|3d and used those programmers for doing the port I wouldn't mind.

[ggg]

Originally posted by raffael3d
those products were available for Mac alreday since a long time, the news is that they are now also available for OS X and not only for OS 9.

the title and main news?

[policarpo]

i don't know Visgoth...if these new IBM chips become a reality for Apple and they turn out to be true Intel Stompers....Softimage might benefit from being ported to OSX so that way they can insure a broader user base. More users equal greater revenues. Or at least I think that's the way capitalism works. :drool:

I don't know how much conversion there is involved from going from Irix/Linux to OSX which is supposed to be another UNIX flavor as are the latter two.

It's all good though...any news of the Experience 3.0 Demo being made available to us?

If any reps of Softimage are listening...you don't need to impress us with your nice CD packaging...just make the SI 3.0 demo and tutorials downloadable from your site. I'll give you whatever info you like. :beer:

[wmendez]

Graham,

I think Avid ported those apps because of Apple's dominance with Final Cut Pro on that platform, AVID DV Xpress has been going head to head with it since it's release and I feel they want to win over the Apple users.

As Far as XSI on the MAC...who knows? I'm happy with Linux and XP:cool:

[AmbientLight]

Now that's crap to say that Mac is good for music but no good for 3D graphics. Say if I'm to build both workstations for 3D and audio recording, the configuration would be very similar. Both have to be dual CPU, both should have as much RAM as possible, both need a lot disk space and SCSI. Audio recording is just as demanding as 3D, I can say it from my own personal experience.

The real problem as I see it, is a price tag, XSI (I sold my soul to the devil for a license) + Mac = too much money. For big studios that can also be a problem multiplied many times.

[ggg]

Hi Will, yes I know the likely history of Avid and FCP, I witnessed their interactions after the FCP puchase at NAB, and we also beta'd it.

In my posts I never mentioned
Originally posted by wmendez
those apps
or
Originally posted by raffael3d
those products
and again they are not the main news of the link I posted


edit added: you didn't read my posts, you guys are barking up the wrong tree ;)

[wmendez]

I was remarking on the CGW article you posted, I saw the other ones as well when they first came out but not as worried about it :)

[ggg]

Will, I agree that it may have been one reason why those other apps were ported, but I posted the CGW article to add wieght to the possibility of moving XSI or even DS over based on the port of a flagship product but could not find an article that didn't include those other apps. I'm not talking about those other apps, but I guess I just did :p

[ggg]

PS Raffael, All "those products were" NOT "available for Mac alreday since a long time"

[wmendez]

Ahh I see said the blind man.. Interesting concept. Do Meridian cards (what Avid Uses for Video I/0 work on the MAC?) or did they choose another product?

[ggg]

Perhaps not a great concept but seems porting the high end Symphony might give more possibility to DS and XSI porting one day too...

Dunno, I'd guess Meridian cards are used in both the Mac and PC but I don't know much about them, I stopped using avids a long time ago, I was one of the ones buying DS and Flint to avoid Avids, funny how its come round :)

PS That was fun talking to David. Good to see you are intersted in the editing/compositing in XSI being supported by hardware. Do you think it could take advantage of apples Quartz Extreme?

[wmendez]

Originally posted by ggg
Dunno, I'd guess Meridian cards are used in both the Mac and PC but I don't know much about them, I stopped using avids a long time ago, I was one of the ones buying DS and Flint to avoid Avids, funny how its come round :)

PS That was fun talking to David. Good to see you are intersted in the editing/compositing in XSI being supported by hardware. Do you think it could take advantage of apples Quartz Extreme?

David has been very involved at the Base lately and even though it seems like he's marketing he is doing a great job at informing us by answering all of our questions and reaffirming Nvidia's position as market leader.

I really like XSI's FX Tree it and I only see it getting better hardware support would be sweet especially if I get my Toaster to work on it. Im not too familiar with Quartz does it empliment OpenGL or is that the equivilant for MAC users?

[ggg]

gave David the link, I agree as hes informative, he's truely interested in our field and unlike typical sales people he knows his stuff and has decent knowledge by experience in the graphics industry. Definitley gives me confidence about NV supporting and driving the highened. Nice to have some of them come out on the forums.

yes quartz uses OGL , its like what MSs longhorn will be.
I had some better links... not much info on apples site:
http://a32.g.akamai.net/7/32/51/e3f09c3d615efe/www.apple.com/macosx/pdfs/Quartz_TB.pdf
http://www.apple.com/macosx/jaguar/quartzextreme.html
I haven't experinced just how much it does, if really help with compositing beyond windows but its supposed to. I'm sure SI is getting ready to use these types of UI features in Longhorn perhaps even aiding fxtree or roto composting but hwo knows how much will come true, demos of new MS OS 3D features at their developers conferene years ago were quite cool but I've not seen anything like it since.

[wmendez]

Thanks for the links very impressive I must admit.

[Bradf0rd010]

Originally posted by sebek27
..and once you have a dual AMD Athlon..

Interesting he should say that, seeing as the Mac rumour of the moment is that Hammer will be Apple's CPU of choice in the future.
Kind of shoots down his own arguement :blush:


But XSI on the Mac. Personally, I think it would be great. Anything that gives the end user more choice is a good move in my book :)



Was David reigned in by the powers that be @ nVidia? I notice all his threads in the XSI base thread have disappeared again, and I never even got to see the thread it linked to on these forums :hmm:

[ggg]

sebek27 wrote on 01-24-2003 10:11 PM:
don't call me a troll ahole, i'll come after you and spear you down to your for-babies-only-designed mac...

Its a discussion you came into with no valid points and trashing someones reasonable question. The question was both platform and software app specific in the app specific forum to which you do not seem to have a background so your extreme opinion you posted is unfounded. That is by definition a troll.

All of your posts here are not help or answers but rather questions, if you don't have have anything to offer to help someone then continue not to.

I don't hide behind a blank profile Sebastian is it?, but now you've made a physical threat against me, albeit a humourous one.
good luck in your career.

[Nurb'd]

I am not a Mac fan either but sebek that is way over the top. Not only did you troll this thread but you turned into a ass when someone responded.

Maybe you should take a walk outside. They are only computers you know?

[wmendez]

I agree sebeks remark was totally uncalled for.

[dmeyer]

Originally posted by sebek27
i'm just saying that Mac's are horrible for 3D which is really strange since they say that they are SOOOO FAST... i prefer PC's, although Mac's are really good when it comes to music and video I guess... not trying to start a Mac vs PC war, but it seems that people who are into Mac's, are so stubborn and never think anything is good on PC's, it's like they are narrow minded and won't even try a PC, a PC person on the other hand would try a MAC and not bitch and wine about it...

The point of this thread was the question of porting XSI to OS X...it had nothing to do with PCs vs. Macs. Can we try not to bring this into every thread?:shrug:

[Atyss]

Originally posted by dmeyer
The point of this thread was the question of porting XSI to OS X...it had nothing to do with PCs vs. Macs. Can we try not to bring this into every thread?:shrug:

That's impossible. Discussions about Macs, warez and so on always turn on into passionate battles.

[Bradf0rd010]

But that's the point. The question was whether Soft will port to OS X, not if it did how it would stack up against the PC version.

That's clearly not a Mac Vs PC debate.

[ggg]

Originally posted by Atyss
That's impossible. Discussions about Macs, warez and so on always turn on into passionate battles.
Yes its impossible not to have somone coming in and making more passionate and less fact based remarks about PC vs Mac and a general discussion area is a good place for it.
There seems to be enough SI people with some interest in the original question to discuss it reasonably. Unfortunately there aren't too many facts relative to this issue and apple, avid and SI. I should have asked at SIGGRAPH but 4 days is not enough to fit in all your questions to each company. Besides they are never consistent anyway ;)

The question has some validity, a few are, that the designers platform is traditionaly the mac, opening another market, broadcast designers often use Macs and other avid products, also for some with UNIX or linux BG, OSX holds a little interest.
Until they get a better CPU (perhaps the IBM one will help or AMD)and pro cards, and until our industry and the economy in general starts picking up again, and the XSI user base greatly increases, I don't think its worth it. But I think its something to consider for the future, and if apple corrects those two things, and economy returns, the question should be why not port XSI to OSX?

PS hey its OK, sebeks remarks are water off a ducks back, I provoked him by asking the question poster to ignore the troll, but the remarks had to be noted as unhelpful.

[ggg]

more unfounded rumours, especially a year later.
http://www.geek.com/news/geeknews/2002feb/bma20020218010309.htm
although support for all pshop psd layers rather than just one would be cool for texturing

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