First Woman... Eva...

[MatteoM]

Little Up...

http://img339.imageshack.us/img339/97/untitled1ey5.th.jpg (http://img339.imageshack.us/my.php?image=untitled1ey5.jpg) http://img290.imageshack.us/img290/7224/untitled2vs1.th.jpg (http://img290.imageshack.us/my.php?image=untitled2vs1.jpg)

http://img330.imageshack.us/img330/276/untitled4ae1.th.jpg (http://img330.imageshack.us/my.php?image=untitled4ae1.jpg) http://img386.imageshack.us/img386/6218/untitled3xq6.th.jpg (http://img386.imageshack.us/my.php?image=untitled3xq6.jpg)

http://img403.imageshack.us/img403/2355/facemat01eg5.th.jpg (http://img403.imageshack.us/my.php?image=facemat01eg5.jpg) http://img401.imageshack.us/img401/2474/facemat02pl8.th.jpg (http://img401.imageshack.us/my.php?image=facemat02pl8.jpg) http://img401.imageshack.us/img401/4166/facemat03tg1.th.jpg (http://img401.imageshack.us/my.php?image=facemat03tg1.jpg)


Bye Bye
Matteo

[MatteoM]

UP....

http://img184.imageshack.us/img184/5720/untitled5er1.th.jpg (http://img184.imageshack.us/my.php?image=untitled5er1.jpg)
http://img287.imageshack.us/img287/6602/facemat04gp8.th.jpg (http://img287.imageshack.us/my.php?image=facemat04gp8.jpg)
http://img287.imageshack.us/img287/5343/facemat05sm8.th.jpg (http://img287.imageshack.us/my.php?image=facemat05sm8.jpg)
http://img185.imageshack.us/img185/2997/facemat06yg1.th.jpg (http://img185.imageshack.us/my.php?image=facemat06yg1.jpg)

[ASaarnak]

Good so far. Face is a bit strange because of eyes, they are too far from each other..

Keep posting and updateing your character, then there will be more to crit and comment.

[MatteoM]

Thankx...

This is my reference...
http://img150.imageshack.us/img150/6757/referencecu1.th.jpg (http://img150.imageshack.us/my.php?image=referencecu1.jpg)

It's my first model so I have a little problem with proportion... I work on it today...

thankx for now
bye bye
Matteo

[MatteoM]

Correct some part...

I used the Cage for correct Eyes, Nose and some between Eyes and Nose...

http://img104.imageshack.us/img104/7457/untitled1ba5.th.jpg (http://img104.imageshack.us/my.php?image=untitled1ba5.jpg)http://img55.imageshack.us/img55/8466/untitled3qg2.th.jpg (http://img55.imageshack.us/my.php?image=untitled3qg2.jpg) http://img80.imageshack.us/img80/368/untitled2gr3.th.jpg (http://img80.imageshack.us/my.php?image=untitled2gr3.jpg)

bye bye
Matteo

:)
(http://img80.imageshack.us/my.php?image=untitled2gr3.jpg)

[Gremlin]

Modeling girls is apparently where it's at :D

However,
My critique is not so much with your model, but rather your method; I too use poly by poly, however the problem I have with it is I find myself working with too dense a mesh when trying to do simple areas--which given what you've already modeled, looks like you're headed towards that problem rapidly.

Modeling the mouth may be a challenge--you're already looking at 16-18 divisions just on the top lip; for me that generally results in lumpy or hard edged results.

I think you're headed in the right direction, but my only advice would be--try and save as much detail for later as you can; because specially with poly by poly, you do a lot of post-modeling tweaking of sizes and proportions.

Cheers mate,
Gremlin
:beer:

[MatteoM]

Hi Gremlin,

I used more divisions? It's not good...?...

Now I work again with this method, maybe later I try with less subdivision...

thankx for your comment ;)

bye bye
matteo

[Georges]

a little bit early to say a lot of things. greetings to the beautifully town of siena anyway

Georges

[MatteoM]

WOW! It's very interest model...

bye bye
Matteo

[MatteoM]

WOW! It's very interest model...

bye bye
Matteo

I wrong post... Interest Model is Your Georges... Laura... it's fantastik model...

Little Up... first Eye

http://img473.imageshack.us/img473/2301/eyesmatpv2.th.jpg (http://img473.imageshack.us/my.php?image=eyesmatpv2.jpg)

Bye bye
Matteo

[MatteoM]

Little Up... I have problem between Eye and Eye...


http://img150.imagevenue.com/loc525/th_73290_face_step_02_525lo.jpg (http://img150.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=73290_face_step_02_525lo.jpg)http://img154.imagevenue.com/loc409/th_73297_face_step_02_1_409lo.jpg (http://img154.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=73297_face_step_02_1_409lo.jpg)http://img151.imagevenue.com/loc576/th_73304_face_step_02_2_576lo.jpg (http://img151.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=73304_face_step_02_2_576lo.jpg)http://img158.imagevenue.com/loc396/th_73311_face_step_02_3_396lo.jpg (http://img158.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=73311_face_step_02_3_396lo.jpg)

[Georges]

thank's for the compliments. it just takes a while to get it done. i can't see any big problems with the eyes from your model. if you take a reference picture from a real eye ( if you want to achieve that of course) then you might work out the shape of the eye a bit better.
btw. i am going this year for some days to Roccateterighi ( Roccastrada ) no computer work..
roof work ;-)
Georges

[MatteoM]

Some people suggestion me to delete a few edge (in blue and maybe Red) because is more and it's not very important... Maybe I re-start...

http://img41.imagevenue.com/loc404/th_77020_Untitled_2_404lo.jpg (http://img41.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=77020_Untitled_2_404lo.jpg)

Change TurboSmoot from 2 to 1...

http://img155.imagevenue.com/loc488/th_77013_Untitled_1_488lo.jpg (http://img155.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=77013_Untitled_1_488lo.jpg)

I live in Siena, I haven't Car and CarDrive so I can't go to Roccateterighi... If you want coming in Siena and drink a Beer ;) in my CGPortfolio find my E-mail and Mobile Number... no speak about work... ;)

bye bye
Matteo

[Georges]

about having a beer : why not let's see.
about the model : no need to restart. just finish the model. a mesh can be edited always.
so long as you do not start completely wrong, it should be ok.
my Laura mesh is still under construction since some years. i always find something that could be changed. right now i do a unusually mesh because i've put some extra edges to the body because of my cloth work.
just go straight on..finally tweaking is taking a lot of time
Georges

[MatteoM]

Hi boy...

I have a little problem with some edge... see the red circle... Why?

http://img13.imagevenue.com/loc390/th_91971_fff2_390lo.jpg (http://img13.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=91971_fff2_390lo.jpg)

Another problem with the lips... and direction of part between nose and lips... in green...

http://img15.imagevenue.com/loc574/th_91979_ffff_574lo.jpg (http://img15.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=91979_ffff_574lo.jpg)

Tomorrow I try with another file (I'm very happy for Save As...)...

bye bye
Matteo

[Georges]

red:

guess you can solve that by a extra row from the nose down to the lip. you are having a 5 sided poly there. it was hard to see it exactly on your picture.
green :
think it is not wrong. you might push a bit the vertices to make the faces more equal.
Georges

[elwitten]

Hi boy...

I have a little problem with some edge... see the red circle... Why?

http://img13.imagevenue.com/loc390/th_91971_fff2_390lo.jpg (http://img13.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=91971_fff2_390lo.jpg)

Another problem with the lips... and direction of part between nose and lips... in green...

http://img15.imagevenue.com/loc574/th_91979_ffff_574lo.jpg (http://img15.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=91979_ffff_574lo.jpg)

Tomorrow I try with another file (I'm very happy for Save As...)...

bye bye
Matteo

@ the low picture. probably two dots that aren't connected. try target weld or autoweld on those two dots
@upper pic. dont know???

[MatteoM]

upper pic.... what is it?

[KristopherLee]

This appears to be the Eva Wilde tutorial. So Im sure he's following it as closely as he can from the dvd.

Tho there are little problems, you are doing good for your first character model. I do archi modeling so this is something I will be trying myself very soon.

Good luck.

[MatteoM]

Hi Kristopher Lee,

Yes, I modeling this woman with 3DTotal DVD... Now I have not time because I work from 9:00 am to 20:00 pm and now I work on another project for work...

http://forums.cgsociety.org/showthread.php?f=43&t=468077 (http://forums.cgsociety.org/showthread.php?f=43&t=468077)

Whene I finish and I have time I re-start my Eva model with another tutorial (box modeling for example)...

Thankx for all...

Matteo

[KristopherLee]

My question to you then is..

..is this DVD worth the money and does it teach you step by step how to model this character or is it just a workflow dvd?

I'm looking to purchase a character modeling tutorial and this seems to be the only one out there right now that may be worth buying.

kL

[MatteoM]

DVD is good... All part is divide for step with video... I find only one not run...

DVD is divide in that part

Extra - with reference (color, wireframe and anatomical image) and file for start with reference
Introduction - 1 video...
Creating the face - 15 steps/video
Bulding the head & ear - 12 steps/video
The neck, shoulder & breast - 15 steps/video
The back, addome & groin - 15 steps/video
The limbs - 15 steps/video
The hand - 10 steps/video
The foot - 8 steps/video
Finishing off - 9 steps/video

You can wacht video or read tutorial step by step in HTML Version with good image...

-copy and paste from dvd-


Full Resolution Flash Player Movies
.swf files for quick and easy viewing. All movies have a custom control panel and slider bar for easy access to any part of the movie. (Resolution 1024x768 Standard) To view the movies you will need to have Macromedia Flash Player installed. This is a free downloadable product. Click the link on the left to go to the downloads page.

Full resolution screen images
Can be studied in detail to allow the user to see exactly what is being explained. (Resolution 1024x768 Standard)

HTML Interface
Will work in all browsers and on all platforms. Less memory intensive allowing you to work in your 3d package and run the DVD at the same time

http://www.3dtotal.com/training/ (http://www.3dtotal.com/training/)

Some screen-shoot/example...

http://img162.imagevenue.com/loc159/th_50114_exaple_01_122_159lo.jpg (http://img162.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=50114_exaple_01_122_159lo.jpg)http://img5.imagevenue.com/loc13/th_50119_exaple_02_122_13lo.jpg (http://img5.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=50119_exaple_02_122_13lo.jpg)http://img20.imagevenue.com/loc9/th_50120_exaple_03_122_9lo.jpg (http://img20.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=50120_exaple_03_122_9lo.jpg)



I think it's good tutorial with good price (US- $59 EUR- €46 UK- £32). In Italy I'm teacher of 3DStudio, Rhinoceros and Photoshop... I know the big problem for find good material.

Can I help you with another question? I can speak in private messanger if you want...


Bye bye
Matteo


P.S.: I visit your web-site... good work ;)

[KristopherLee]

Thanks for the web visit.

I think you answered all my questions really. I may have to purchase this dvd set from modeling to rigging. Im a student at animationmentor.com so the animation is coming along but I'd love to start learning the modeling and rigging part so that I can do more than just animate a rig given to me.

Keep up the good work cuz I'd like to see progress. Feel free to send me PM if you wanna communicate over messenger. It's always keen to have good contacts.

Cheers.

kL

[Onslaught_2000]

MatteoM you model is looking good. I to have the eve wild dvd tut and i used it to create this model which i'm stll working on. I learned alot fomr it so i know you will do just fine jsut keeps at it, and soon you will be able to create your own models
http://home.earthlink.net/~gray_fox001/FujinAkumaSide.jpghttp://home.earthlink.net/~gray_fox001/bikinitest04.jpg

[MatteoM]

Thank Onslaught_2000,

Your model it's good... I hope to finish my model... I haven't time now :( ....


bye bye
Matteo

[MatteoM]

I start to 3:30 am... and I wait 5:30 am (Italian houre)...

I re-start all model and then I think to open old file for correct some part... It's no more modeling but in my free-time...

http://m1.freeshare.us/129fs2472192_th.jpg (http://m1.freeshare.us/view/?129fs2472192.jpg)

http://m1.freeshare.us/129fs2472239_th.jpg (http://m1.freeshare.us/view/?129fs2472239.jpg)

Bye Bye and good day...

Mat

:thumbsup:

[Onslaught_2000]

MatteoM it looks good, but a word of advice when modeling try not to start over the model. I did that when i first started to use max and could not finish a model, because ever time i sw something that did not work out i would redo the model and that waste alot of time. The best thing to do is tweak what you alread have and see if you can get it to fix what you want. As for my model i am still tweaking her, and hope to have her rig some time this week.

[MatteoM]

Hi nslaught_2000,

Thankx for your advice, infact I don't restart because I think to modeling all Eva and then I control some part and change... I think to re-start yesterday... today no ;)


Now I'm in office and I can work on she... DOH!... tonight maybe...

Bye bye
Mat

[Onslaught_2000]

Hi MatteoM sorry to hear that. I hope you get some time to work on her. Right now i'm trying to tweak my model in zbrush, and then i hope to start texturing it soon. If it is ok here is a test texture i add to the model, because i create my uv's and could not wait to see how it will look with some cool skin texture. So here is a render of my mdoel made in max, tweaked a little in zbursh, and with with a test texture.
http://home.earthlink.net/%7Egray_fox001/FujunTattoo.jpg

[MatteoM]

Sorry... but I haven't time for work on my Eva... :sad:


Your model it's good but texture of tattoo is not very good... see pixel...

See you late
Matteo

:)

[Onslaught_2000]

Hehehe yeah i know it sucks i was only trying out a test to see if i had ever thing set up correctly. This is my first time creating my own texture so i wanted to make sure i had ever thing setup. I will begin creating the final texture for my model this week and will try to post some pic of it in the WIP part of the forum.

[MatteoM]

eehhehe work work... http://www.treddi.com/forum/style_emoticons/default/wallbash.gifhttp://www.treddi.com/forum/style_emoticons/default/wallbash.gifhttp://www.treddi.com/forum/style_emoticons/default/wallbash.gifhttp://www.treddi.com/forum/style_emoticons/default/wallbash.gifhttp://www.treddi.com/forum/style_emoticons/default/wallbash.gifhttp://www.treddi.com/forum/style_emoticons/default/wallbash.gif


I waint your wip, post or send me in PM the link of your wip... saturday I close somes work and I can help you with texture ;)


Mat

[Onslaught_2000]

That would be raelly cool if you give me some pointers on texturing, because i need it so i will be looking out for ou on Saturday.
I will have my WIP up some time this week so i will send you the link here.

[MatteoM]

Send me link whene you have time... I help you if I can help you (with my terrible english ;) )...

Mat

[Onslaught_2000]

Say Matt is it ok if i add you to my msn list??

[MatteoM]

add add add add....

MSN or YahooMSN or Skype... it's not a problem for me, the problem is the time ad different location ;) ... but sometime I meet you with MSN don't worry...

msn: mat_m_evil@hotmail.com

yahooMSN: matevil_82

Skype: matteo_mdesign


Matteo

[Onslaught_2000]

Hay Matteo i add you to my msn list if you even sign you will see i'm on there. Any way here is my WIP link to the model i just add a based texture to it. Right now i'm trying to get a hang of texturing in zbrush so i have not made the file texture yet, but will get around to it later this week.Check it out and let me know what you think about it. http://forums.cgsociety.org/showthread.php?f=43&t=482297

[MatteoM]

I re-start with this model, but I change in version of Cyborg ;-)

Up...

http://img150.imageshack.us/img150/7053/render12fu6.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img513.imageshack.us/img513/7769/shoot1tv8.th.jpg (http://img513.imageshack.us/my.php?image=shoot1tv8.jpg) http://img513.imageshack.us/img513/1430/shoot2qd7.th.jpg (http://img513.imageshack.us/my.php?image=shoot2qd7.jpg) http://img513.imageshack.us/img513/9933/shoot3kc8.th.jpg (http://img513.imageshack.us/my.php?image=shoot3kc8.jpg) http://img100.imageshack.us/img100/9038/shoot4xu7.th.jpg (http://img100.imageshack.us/my.php?image=shoot4xu7.jpg)

Mat

[MatteoM]

http://img402.imageshack.us/img402/1857/51883627de6.th.jpg (http://img402.imageshack.us/my.php?image=51883627de6.jpg)http://img441.imageshack.us/img441/7333/40472672nk7.th.jpg (http://img441.imageshack.us/my.php?image=40472672nk7.jpg)http://img88.imageshack.us/img88/9387/82279050iz7.th.jpg (http://img88.imageshack.us/my.php?image=82279050iz7.jpg)http://img441.imageshack.us/img441/3526/58258907wt4.th.jpg (http://img441.imageshack.us/my.php?image=58258907wt4.jpg)http://img260.imageshack.us/img260/2838/55975637cn4.th.jpg (http://img260.imageshack.us/my.php?image=55975637cn4.jpg)http://img260.imageshack.us/img260/1098/43223231vy0.th.jpg (http://img260.imageshack.us/my.php?image=43223231vy0.jpg)

My last idea... but... maybe I change again...

http://img132.imageshack.us/img132/9553/91064570fz5.th.jpg (http://img132.imageshack.us/my.php?image=91064570fz5.jpg)http://img132.imageshack.us/img132/748/24997155fs0.th.jpg (http://img132.imageshack.us/my.php?image=24997155fs0.jpg)http://img86.imageshack.us/img86/6118/16719440ek9.th.jpg (http://img86.imageshack.us/my.php?image=16719440ek9.jpg)

C&C are welcome

Nice day

Matteo

[Georges]

ciao ciao

waht do you want to achieve ? realistic or a kind of caricature ? if realistic is the approach then take care of the proportion of your model. Do you use reference pictures ?
greet's to Siena :-)

Georges

[Knartz]

Loops are good. LIps are awful. If you are modelling Rubber doll for sex, then it's ok... If you are modelling realistic women, then look to lips photos.

[MatteoM]

ciao ciao

waht do you want to achieve ? realistic or a kind of caricature ? if realistic is the approach then take care of the proportion of your model. Do you use reference pictures ?
greet's to Siena :-)

Georges

Ciao Georges,

I will modeling in realistic... In my head I think about anime "Ghost in the shell" and "Neo genesis Evangelion" for this model but my ability is not good yet... I have reference, but it's no good... now I seach a good reference and I re-start for body and for head I see tutorial of Joan of Arc (http://www.3dtotal.com/ffa/tutorials/max/joanofarc/joanmenu.asp) because the 3D Total DVD is more edgeloop and is more long (but it's very good DVD trainner)... I haven't model with me and in this time I try somesolution for another work (tank, you find link in my signature) and I need to finish a little contest on another forum LINK (http://www.treddi.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=49164&st=20) (see under nick MatEvil)... Today is my last day of holiday so I come back in studio ... :sad::rolleyes::cry:

OT| Siena now is white because in the night fall the snow... but now I live in Florence and today I came bake to my student house... I retour to Siena only for visit my parent :) |OT

Loops are good. LIps are awful. If you are modelling Rubber doll for sex, then it's ok... If you are modelling realistic women, then look to lips photos.


Welcome in my wip...

...mhmh... Good idea for sex doll :thumbsup:... Now I adjust all ;)

For all good 2008 ;)

Matteo

:wavey:

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