Races of Middle Earth - Characters - Neox&Kioku

[Neox]

Tahoro:

http://neox.gfx-scene.de/public/Challenge/LotR/Tahoro/Tahoro_01.jpg

Cam Rotate (http://neox.gfx-scene.de/public/Challenge/LotR/Tahoro/Tahoro_smoothed.avi)

Cam Rotate Basemesh (http://neox.gfx-scene.de/public/Challenge/LotR/Tahoro/Tahoro_base.avi)

Leraas:

http://neox.gfx-scene.de/public/Challenge/LotR/Leraas/Leraas_01.jpg

Cam Rotate (http://neox.gfx-scene.de/public/Challenge/LotR/Leraas/Leraas_smoothed.avi)

Cam Rotate Basemesh (http://neox.gfx-scene.de/public/Challenge/LotR/Leraas/Leraas_base.avi)

ok thats it for today, @Ki would you please post a still rendering of your latest version? :)

[Fetus23]

WOW!! :eek:
beautiful creature and elf girl....
...............


:beer:
fetus

[Neox]

http://neox.gfx-scene.de/public/Challenge/LotR/size.gif

I've forgotten the Sizes of those two :D

The man in the middle should be about 1,80-1,85meters high

[Neox]

WOW!! :eek: beautiful creature and elf girl....

thank you, but she is not elvish :D

[azazel]

Very cute, both of them. I like the big guy's face expression:thumbsup:

[foenix]

Wonderful :eek:
I like both of models :buttrock: :buttrock:

[ki oku]

hmm, i've mailed you the newest version, but nevermind ill up a wip when ive got home :)

[Neox]

i don't have your lighting :p
i just rendered the animation a with a different one, and i didn't want to do a new still, so just render your current version
:beer:

[LoneLobo]

Neox, if you'll EVER get near my city when traveling to munich for example, I'll shoot you down :) :beer:

ki, same situation, but you know it already :beer:

looking forward to the final version :D

[Mentat7]

Wow this is excellent Neox! I bet the texture will be kickass. The form is so smooth and natural looking imho and I can almost feel the tactile qualities. More please! :bounce:

[Neox]

ok here's my concept for Tahoro and Leraas hope you like it :)

lol forgot the picture

http://neox.gfx-scene.de/public/Challenge/LotR/Concept01.gif

[ki oku]

yeah thats it :D

[chill]

Hi, how did you distribute the work. Did one model the Wogi and one the girl?

great job

[ki oku]

neox did the whole wogi, i did most of the grrrl

[Neox]

we just use icq to speak about changes and we are sending models the latest models to both of us, to check and maybe change, but kioku has some kind of fear with my models, he never changes anything thats disturbing for him :shrug:

[dies-irae]

cool!!!! i love them both!!

and the 2 together should rock!!!

grand concept!

more shots more shots!¨!

[Neox]

ok i decides to serve you with our ugly WIP-Pictures :)

Pic1 (http://neox.gfx-scene.de/public/Challenge/LotR/Tahoro_Wips/Bigdude.jpg)
Pic 2 (http://neox.gfx-scene.de/public/Challenge/LotR/Tahoro_Wips/Bigdude2.jpg)
Pic3 (http://neox.gfx-scene.de/public/Challenge/LotR/Tahoro_Wips/Bigdude3.jpg)
Pic 4 (http://neox.gfx-scene.de/public/Challenge/LotR/Tahoro_Wips/Bigdude4.jpg)
Pic5 (http://neox.gfx-scene.de/public/Challenge/LotR/Tahoro_Wips/Bigdude5.jpg)
Pic 6 (http://neox.gfx-scene.de/public/Challenge/LotR/Tahoro_Wips/Bigdude6.jpg)
Pic7 (http://neox.gfx-scene.de/public/Challenge/LotR/Tahoro_Wips/Bigdude7.jpg)
Pic 8 (http://neox.gfx-scene.de/public/Challenge/LotR/Tahoro_Wips/Bigdude8.jpg)
Pic9 (http://neox.gfx-scene.de/public/Challenge/LotR/Tahoro_Wips/Bigdude9.jpg)
these are mine

now to kiokus, do your job man, post your wips :)
:D

[fellah]

great job! I like them, especially "Tahoro". the back and clothes are very well done!
maybe you could make the ears a bit more chubby, I think it woud fit him better. but then again, maybe not!

take care fellow musketeers! :)

[chill]

The first nose was really ugly. The final one is much better :thumbsup:

[Neox]

yes the ears hehe i want to change em, like on the last coNcept i did :)

[rockrat]

Very very impressive!

[ki oku]

ok here are some wips

wip1 (http://www.mysunrise.ch/users//sauder/kiart/forumstuff/neox_frau/wip4.jpg)

wip2 (http://www.mysunrise.ch/users//sauder/kiart/forumstuff/neox_frau/wip6.jpg) :rolleyes:

wip3 (http://www.mysunrise.ch/users//sauder/kiart/forumstuff/neox_frau/wip11.jpg)

wip4 (http://www.mysunrise.ch/users//sauder/kiart/forumstuff/neox_frau/wip14.jpg)

wip5 (http://www.mysunrise.ch/users//sauder/kiart/forumstuff/neox_frau/wip17.jpg)

neox, sorry most of tahoro's modeling is "organic" stuff, and you know that im not that good at it...ok, i can do heads, but no body modeling :rolleyes:

[-CCFly-]

I'm really looking forward to you finishing your work! :buttrock:

:thumbsup:

edit: hope my english isnt too bad ;)

[mental-phreak]

Nice Work dudes! :buttrock:

Tahoro reminds of Shrek!

I'm looking foward to seeing both finished and textured!

I think freckles would be cool for the little Leraas!

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Mein erster Post in eurem Thread was für eine Ehre für euch ;)

[-CCFly-]

Now i know why the big guy looked this familiar to me ... shrek


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Ich glaub Neox und kioku bringen ihren eigenen Fanclub mit :beer:

[leigh]

Those are wonderful models - you have an excellent grasp of form, and for making the clothing look really solid :)
Great work so far :thumbsup:

[Neox]

Ok here's my latest update, didn't change that much, haven't got the time :/...

http://neox.gfx-scene.de/public/Challenge/LotR/Tahoro/Tahoro_02.jpg

Ich changed the ears, (like on my concept) added his bandages and the feather bracelet for his left arm, i'll change his kneepatch tomorrow, and i'm still thinking about how i can get the basket vor Neraas on him, any ideas? :)

i still recognized the similarity to shrek, but i don't know why, i didn't have any references here, and when i'm comparing Tahoro with shrek, there is no real similarity, Shrek has a Nose, different eyes, different ears, another anatomy... i really don't know...

Thank you all :)

[ki oku]

neox very well done :) please give me the model, i want to model a bit on the toes...

[Neox]

:beer:

oki i'm at work right now, i'll send it to you this evening, ok?
and i bought a brom artbook, i have to add some things to him :D

[ki oku]

btw, you have to correct the body of leeras (arms& legs) i cant do that (i think)afterwards i can start modeling on the boots

[somlor]

You two are too cool. :beer:

Great work! And I'm interested to see how Brom influences this character, Neox. :)

(s)

[Neox]

he is not going to be bad, just some accesoires inspired by Brom ;)

[l_farley13_l]

Wow great stuff!! Looking forward to mucho detailing on the Orger guy!

the girl might need a bit of tunup - her head looks a bit wide or somthing, hard to tell without playing with it, it might be cool to have some contrast in that area - a kinda oval [vertically] headed woman and the . . . well maybe just mroe personality - could we see a close up of the concept for her face ;)

Farley13

[Neox]

http://neox.gfx-scene.de/public/Challenge/LotR/Concept02.gif

just some accesoires

[ki oku]

this shouler plate and the construcion with those rings really look like things from the freak from by krol :D

[Neox]

krol? sorry i just watched brom :D

[ki oku]

maybe krol got the ideas also from brom :)

btw. i need you, come online with icq! :D

[Neox]

gimme an hour :p

[chill]

Hey ki oku,
why can't you model the arms and legs? Try it! This is the best opportunity to get better. (When everybody is judging the result) :)

[ki oku]

hi chill, ya i know :rolleyes: ..

[Edouard]

I like the big one...show me more (maybe some wires):airguitar

[Neox]

didn't you recognize the videos? there is a wireshot of the Basemesh :D

[ki oku]

luckily ive got holidays now :D ... im goingt to spend much time on modeling leeras next week :)

[Neox]

New Video (http://neox.gfx-scene.de/public/Challenge/LotR/Tahoro/Tahoro_new_clothing.avi)

changed his clothing :)

[Neox]

here is an animated gif, just wait a moment :)

http://neox.gfx-scene.de/public/Challenge/LotR/Tahoro/Tahoro.gif

[ki oku]

damn, i have to speed up my modeling :/

[mental-phreak]

Nice improvements, Neox! :beer:
I like it a lot!
:thumbsup:

kio Don't despair to your model!
It's a great model so far!

[Neox]

Update-Video (http://neox.gfx-scene.de/public/Challenge/LotR/Tahoro/Tahoro_04.avi)

ok i guess the model is finished... what do you think? If anyone needs Pictures, please tell me, i'm to lazy to do them without a reason ;)

[Daniel]

Hey folks!

The characters looks great :buttrock: (please transfer the money soon! :drool: )

Oh man, that guy has a BIG stick :wip: Must be whole tree?

YEAH...U know whats next...GO and create textures!!! :rolleyes:

okay, enough.Cya.

[mental-phreak]

Awesome!
:thumbsup:

What about Leeras? I just can't wait to see her finished.
:bounce:

[ki oku]

hmm there's nothing to show at this moment, i made her a bit thinner because she looked really ugly ...
now im modeling the arms, and i have some serious problems with it ;) so give me a bit time :D

[ki oku]

http://www.mysunrise.ch/users//sauder/kiart/forumstuff/neox_frau/wip26.jpg


finally neox did the arms & hands, but i tried to do them! after this project i really have to study some anatomy :D


btw. neox has some serious problems with his wepspace, maybe the stuff will be online again on the first of february... hehe but doesnt really matter unwrapping istnt that interesting ;)

[chill]

I like the design of the boots. Where did you get the inspiration for them?
btw. Arms and legs are perfect, too

[Neox]

trial and error mixed with cowboy boots :D

[ki oku]

we didnt use any references, i started with the idea of the belts and the torus but nothing specific, neox shaped the feet like "comboy" boots, and made the metal things

[ki oku]

added some stuff, gloves still not finished..

http://www.mysunrise.ch/users//sauder/kiart/forumstuff/neox_frau/wip28.jpg

[Neox]

something is disturbing me, but i really don't know why, it looks as if there is something wrong with the legs, but i really don't know :shrug:

[ki oku]

legs are your part :rolleyes:

[aDiaNDi]

Originally posted by LoneLobo
Neox, if you'll EVER get near my city when traveling to munich for example, I'll shoot you down :) :beer:

ki, same situation, but you know it already :beer:

looking forward to the final version :D

lobo all right! u are watching south germany and I wait for them in Hamburg :D

well... neox and kio u know allready what I would write noe. but it's enough of it in here :D

great stuff :D

[Neox]

http://www.mysunrise.ch/users//sauder/kiart/forumstuff/neox_frau/tahoro_tex1.jpg

i'm currently doing that painted marks... the colors are not final, they are just little modifications of the bumpmap

[elloco]

hmmm ... nice clay-ish color .... looks a lot like small scale warhammer model-type painting ... sorta drybrushed ... I love it ...

[fellah]

this is really nice, one of my favs. I cant really crit it right now, and you probably have alot of things planned already. just wanted to tell you this :)

[Neox]

Here's the latest version :)

Avi-File (http://www.mysunrise.ch/users//sauder/kiart/forumstuff/neox_frau/Tahoro_bumptest_02.avi)

[pabbloz]

:eek: :eek: ! Neox Neox Neox Neox Neox!

Impressive work! Much better than the fellah one!!! :D ;)

I've already told about this model... so no more sweet comments!
:bowdown: :bowdown:

btw... could you post a close up of the eyes? (not neccessary soon).

See you!

[Neox]

:love:

here's the closeup

http://www.mysunrise.ch/users//sauder/kiart/forumstuff/neox_frau/Tahoro_face.jpg

[pabbloz]

G-R-E-A-T ! :love:

[coCoKNIght]

It's looking really good! :thumbsup:
I'm looking forward to seeing more!

[fellah]

good work neox, the textures are really going in the right direction alongside with the model!
the eyes are a bit to 'light' for me though, to much luminosity compared to the rest of the face, they stand out to much.
but, I won't give you to much ideas. I don't want you to make the model to good, in this challenge anyway!!! :D


Much better than the fellah one!!! :D ;)
pabblotoz :shame: I will have my revenge, I must find a good one first, you wait!!! :cool:

[Neox]

come online (ICQ) and i'll show you that you have to like my model :D
i'll beat you MUAHARHAR :beer:

[stipen]

yaaahhhoooooWWWWeeeeeee !!!
Why did I miss it !??
Did you post on CGchallenge Neox ??
Anyway....this is just great !!
I love the design of that big bastard ! Proportion and modelling are great :applause:
Super job !!

[asela]

i realy like it, can you send the final mesh of the face

asela

(there are a few probs with the first pics in your post, i cant see them)

asela

:buttrock:

[Neox]

sorry that i currently don't have the time too update :(
lots of work to do at work and a party to prepare at home :D

@asela, the first pics will work on februar the 17th, we got problems with our server and they will be fixed then, so please do'nt mind if you can't see tha oldest versions :)

final Mesh of the face? the Baseobject or the Smoothed one?
And i thought about giving Tahoro to the public after finishing him, but i still don't know :D

[Neox]

i didn't have that much time last week, because i had a party at home this weekend :buttrock:
and i didn't have the time this weekend because i had to clean my bathroom *looking to carny*

ok here are the videos (divX 5.2)
http://www.mysunrise.ch/users//sauder/kiart/forumstuff/neox_frau/Tahoro_col_1.avi
the color Version (didn't do anything on the arm colors yet)
http://www.mysunrise.ch/users//sauder/kiart/forumstuff/neox_frau/Tahoro_bump.avi
and the bumpmap how it is looking right now (its just red because i can't see ANYTHING in Photoshop an a grey backgorund, i want COLORED brushes)

[Carny]

:beer: *looking to Neox* :buttrock:

Hey it was not only my fault! ;P

I can't wait to see him finished! :D

Go on!

[PROtecta]

You know what I think about him :applause:

...but you gotta hurry! You know what I mean by that as well ;)

BTW: Party? And I wasn't invited? :shame:

Greetz
PRO

[Neox]

i told you about the party! you don't reacted :(
i can show you my icq history ;)

[OZ]

WOW!! THE PAINT STROKES ARE AMAZING!!! the render in general is good too!:applause:

[Neox]

there will be more colormarkings on his arms and legs :D
i know noone can see them with his clothes but that doesn't matter :D

ok here are 2 different version, the first is a color test, just to get a little difference in the colorsm so i made it purpe

http://www.mysunrise.ch/users//sauder/kiart/forumstuff/neox_frau/tahoro_body_col.jpg

the second is a "normal" version with a little blueish brown tone

http://www.mysunrise.ch/users//sauder/kiart/forumstuff/neox_frau/tahoro_body_col_2.jpg

[coCoKNIght]

I like the purple one :thumbsup:

[azazel]

bottom one's better IMO, top one looks like he was playing with purple ink or he is dead....;) :thumbsup:

[Virtuoso]

Overall a interesting creature.I would like to seea little more definition in the legs,I know he is mostly fat covered,but some definition would be a nice extra.Somehow he reminds me of a "Flower Child Troll"..........Like another family of trolls that reside in mIddle Earth.Not like the ones in the movies,but still original,a good thing.

It seems much more peaceful,gentle.I think the spots/splotches on the back should be a little more imbedded into the skin,they seem to be just stuck on the body like stickers.More irregular from one another as well.Just minor thoughts/crits.But overall it's turning out well.:beer:

[Neox]

nono he doesn't need more detail in his legs, he doesn't even need textures on them, you don't remember the model? his pants are very high over his belly button ;) i'm not going to texture the legs anymore, the next step are his hands and feet

[ki oku]

http://www.mysunrise.ch/users//sauder/kiart/forumstuff/neox_frau/leeras1.jpg


after a system crash i had to redo some parts :(

...there is still something weird with her legs&head ...:rolleyes:

[Neox]

ok the face/head has to be redesigned :D

[pabbloz]

Hi neox!

I really like the purple colors on the arms! buuut! maybe it would be cooler in a more sutil way. Not so purple. Anyway, if you decide to use the purple colors... you can use them inside the ears, wrinkles, pelvis, eyes contorn,... you know, in the corrosive areas... :D
but... GREAT GREAT GREAT! one of my few favourites (or my one!)

I'm really impacient to see the clothes with textures... it will be an impressive model for sure! :eek:

His eyes... :love:

[pabbloz]

ki oku! very well done work on the girl!
for me, the head is not bad! I like it! maybe just search some kind of hair or hat! :wip:

All is very nice... maybe you can do a wider thumb, and then work in so cool textures as neox. It would really rocks! :thumbsup:

Just one thing bother me... the boots seem like copy paste copy paste... :D no?

and... show a back render!

[Grub]

Very impressive creations.:buttrock:

[ki oku]

pabbloz: pssst dont tell anybody about that ;) ... ok good idea ill try to break the symmetry a bit ... after i finished the important things :cool:


ya you'll get your back rendering today

:wavey:

[Neox]

Originally posted by Virtuoso
Somehow he reminds me of a "Flower Child Troll"

http://www.mysunrise.ch/users/sauder/kiart/forumstuff/neox_frau/Tahoro_evil.jpg

[Daniel]

ohhh how sweet :p

...floowerchild right? ;)

Cya.

[ki oku]

pabbloz this here is for you, buuuuuuuuuut it sucks! :surprised:

http://www.mysunrise.ch/users//sauder/kiart/forumstuff/neox_frau/leeras2.jpg

something very strange with her head& legs :rolleyes:

[pabbloz]

Neox:
AHAHAH! :D :D ! :applause: No one! no one!

Ki oku:
Hey! I like it! it's not so bad! it's really good!
But I think I can see the wrongs things on the head and in the legs:
- In the head it seems like the back-up part of the neck is too much width
- In the legs the down part seems like much thinner than the upper one... and maybe if you width them a little gets better.

But anyway... I like it very much! you should keep progressing! :wip: Come on !:thumbsup:

[Virtuoso]

LOL.... :eek:...................I have angered the Beast.............I must run for the hills. He looks like he wants Virtuoso bones in his soup tonite. That look he is giving me is fierce.

I must say he does look wonderful,I hope you can get him to stop hunting for Virtuoso,he glares threw my monitor with such a look that can melt my bones. I really do think he is a very well put together creature/model. Really................:love:

Keep up with him,it really is top notch.:beer:

[ki oku]

viruoso maybe you should ask leeras if she could calm tahroro down a bit ;)

[Totitch]

Beautifull texturing Neox!

Maybe your best work for me!!! :thumbsup:
Forehead maybe needs a tribal mark too! no?

Cool! :applause:

[Neox]

ok i'll give it a try :shrug:

maybe my best work for you? hehe i never textured before :P
so its the first thing i worked on this long :D

[pabbloz]

Originally posted by Neox
i never textured before :P
so its the first thing i worked on this long :D

Oh! :eek: IMPRESSIVE! :thumbsup:

Great work Neox! When we will see all the whole model with all you've done until now?! :drool:

[Neox]

just wait till this night, you know i finished the pose, now i have to setup the light (or maybe someone else helps me with the light, hmmm ;) ) then i have to finalize the textures for his face, to make one closeupshot... and all this after work this night :(

[Neox]

ok here is the final one (for this challenge ;) )

http://neox.gfx-scene.de/public/CG-Talk_Challenge/LotR/Tahoro_final_really_small.jpg

and the big version :D

Big Picture ( 179kb) (http://neox.gfx-scene.de/public/CG-Talk_Challenge/LotR/Tahoro_final.jpg)

[fellah]

waaaa, great neoxinskidinskilli! the expressions are really fine, and the composition aswell. the topmost expression is _perfect_, my preferer!
but, show us a view of the complete model so we can see the details better please(more work for you, did you think you could finally get some sleep now? ;) )

absolutely one of my preferers in this challenge!

[pabbloz]

absolutely one of my preferers in this challenge!
Yes bastard! you say this now! we will see if you vote it! :D

Great work Neox! I will vote for you sure! (for fellah not sure... :D)
You already know that camera view is the perfect for show all the details of the model! Sure there is no one better! ;)
And that light, dof and material work perfectly! great!

the topmost expression is _perfect_, my preferer!
The mine is the most bottom and right one! :applause:

BRAVO!

[Neox]

as you wished, here is a turnaround... but i don't know if you need it, because i planned to give the model to the public :D

Avi - DivX 5.02 (http://neox.gfx-scene.de/public/CG-Talk_Challenge/LotR/Tahoro_model.avi)


:edit: lol have fogotten the most important part of that thread :edit:

THANK YOU GUYS
special thanks to kioku, exeless, tub, pabbloz and the others who helped me during this contest (espacially in the last hours), another special thanx to fellah without his great entry i would never have been that ambitious

THANKS

so... Rock on Musketeers :buttrock: :buttrock: :buttrock:

[Neox]

and the wireframe turnaround :)

Avi - DivX 5.02 (http://neox.gfx-scene.de/public/CG-Talk_Challenge/LotR/Tahoro_base.avi)

but as i said you all will get the model for free ;)

[fellah]

I'm very honored for what you said neox, it has been a pleasure to see this one evolve to.
I must say it's really kind of you to give the model away to the public to, I'm sure alot of ppl will learn tons from it, very clean/goodlooking mesh you have there.

[Fetus23]

Ya this thread is really cool....The characters are very nice, detailed and fit so well together.. :applause: Model to texture, its all very nice work. I really hope your in for another challenge noex, I want to see more of your work!!

:beer:
:wavey:

[Neox]

as i promised :D
http://www.cgtalk.com/showthread.php?threadid=47136

kioku and me made a modelpack, with 23 of our models, hope they might help you :)

[Lord Tyrion]

i ask myself how this image can be so high in the rank.
sorry but i think there are much better pics that have not half of the points.

thats what i don´t like on such contest.
artist that rule a website will always have greater support from their user.

it´s a good picture no question but not that good.


könnt ihr, sofern ihr registriert seid, eure Stimmen abgeben.
Aber ihr wisst ja für wen ihr stimmen müsst :D

thats not a fair game.

[DanielWichterich]

Since you cannot prevent everyone from cheating the motto for every Internet-Competition should be: "Cheat as much as you can!" :shrug:

[Neox]

hmmm :shrug: dunno
maybe its the idea? the story? there can be a lot of reasons, you know watch silmarillions model, its one of the best on that challenge, but for me its NOT Place 5
The concept is (for me) boring, a human with bigger ears and some planewings (the model ain't finished yet, thats another point)... hope you know what i mean, its more than just the model it self...

@stange is it cheating to post on "every" german board that the voting has started? maybe it is but i never told anyone exactly to vote for me ;)

[Neox]

ok Tyrion tell it to them in english...

ok in english

"but you know, for who you have to vote :D" (argh my english)

Ok next time i don't tell anyone that the challenge voting started, and come on how many smilies do i have to put behind my forumposts?
ok everyone stop voting for me, i'm cheating, i'm a bad asshole just stop it, my work sucks and... but maybe there are only a few guys who wanted to vote for me? ever thought about that?:hmm:

[Lord Tyrion]

The concept is (for me) boring, a human with bigger ears and some planewings (the model ain't finished yet, thats another point)...

yours is a more or less simple head and a untextured body.
no big difference in my eyes. but i agree, i don´t think it´s place 5.

anyway, my concerns are general.

ok everyone stop voting for me, i'm cheating, i'm a bad asshole just stop it, my work sucks and.....

i never wrote something like that.
i only wrote that i think such contest are not fair when some reach more user and ask them to vote "for the right person". ;)

im a member of a audio/songwriter board and the last 3 winner from a swedish song contest came all from this board.
i don´t have to mention that the admin from the board was the winner. :)

the problem in the last contest was that only 20% of the voter had actually downloaded the winning song. so how could they judge if it is the best? :thumbsdow

i see the same in many 3d contests.

[Neox]

but i really don't know where your problem is, vote as you want, give every one 5 Points and none to me if this is your opinion, i never told any one to gimme all points, my fav's are KingMob and Fellah the became my votes...
And you can think five points away from my picture, i voted for me just to test if its possible :/

:edit:
check your private messages :)

[DanielWichterich]

Neox, I was just talking in general.
I didn't seriously think about if it's cheating or not.

BTW: I like your character! Nice work!

[Neox]

thank you to everey one who participated this challenge, i'd like to do another one, but i dunno if i could find any time :D
but it was a real pleasure to "fight" against you and get th 10th place ;)

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