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 johnepic07-18-2006, 06:49 AMHello! Well, as i've been visiting this great site, i've found lots of great pieces just to do some exercise. I'm not an experienced graphics artist (i'm an actual musician and actor =P ), but i've been greatly encouraged to try and make my own trials and post them here, so please feel free to comment as i need as much criticism and help as possible. Thank you!
johnepic
07-18-2006, 08:17 AM
Well, to start, i did the 2-5-10 quick master copies right in the "begginer's lounge", so here are the results of that =)
These were all done one after another in a nearly 2 hours exercise.

http://i112.photobucket.com/albums/n182/johnepic/exercise1.jpg

http://i112.photobucket.com/albums/n182/johnepic/exercise2.jpg

johnepic
07-18-2006, 08:18 AM
the next 2..

http://i112.photobucket.com/albums/n182/johnepic/exercise3.jpg

http://i112.photobucket.com/albums/n182/johnepic/exercise4.jpg

johnepic
07-18-2006, 08:19 AM
The final 2...

http://i112.photobucket.com/albums/n182/johnepic/exercise5.jpg
http://i112.photobucket.com/albums/n182/johnepic/exercise6.jpg

Thank you for your replies! =)

johnepic
07-18-2006, 08:23 AM
On this same day, i began with my 50 heads. I'm trying to be as fast as i can =P
Well, here it is, my 1st head.
It's head nº 54...Oh, i used a 3B graph pencil, if you ask =)

Rebeccak
07-18-2006, 03:41 PM
johnepic,

Welcome aboard! :) Great to see your short format exercises, I think that you have a nice fluidity of line which you can really refine as you practice over time. Nice to see your work with the 50 heads. :) I encourage you to work quickly, but if you need the time to figure out a certain area, don't hesitate to take it. I look forward to seeing more work from you! :)

It would be great to hear a bit more about your background. What sparks your interest in art? :)

Cheers,

~Rebeccak

johnepic
07-18-2006, 04:59 PM
Ohh, thank you for your kind comment =)
I will tame more time to get things going, but as i'm new here, i was a little too excited about starting, heh:bounce: Anyway, thanks for the advice. I'm now working on more heads, but i think i'll do some more quick "2-5-10" sketches, as i found them very useful to understand how lines work together.

Well, if you ask for my background, as i said before, i studied music (and piano) from the age of 8, and i also entered college to become an actor (but i got out after one year..). I was always interested in graphics, since my mom has painted every single thing in my house, so i started drawing since i was a little kid, but had never been into a class (only the art class in school, which in my case, was not a great thing..). But if you ask me what drives me to art, i guess music and theathre are a very good choice for an answer. You know, being in an Art Faculty makes you know and comprehend art from a different perspective, and so happened to me. I started to see or want to make art not just for the obvious expresive matter that lies beneath almost every artistic expression.. i was also driven to art because of the great social responsibility it has, the power of being the place society has to reflect and think about itself. I'm now studying to become an economist, and, you know, i'm even more convinced about that topic now that i see how other disciplines limitate themselves to their own studying matters, while art is a transversal and a universal language (which has to be trained from education for everyone to understand better, but it has a lot of intuition).. so i guess that's a little summary of what drives me to art. But i know that before i can take a step towards whatever i'd want to do, it's better to know the bases and some theory which will allow me to do that whatever in a better way. So that's why i'm here :)

Thank you for asking. I hope that makes the answer, but i'm always happy to answer any question =)

Rebeccak
07-19-2006, 06:22 AM
johnepic,

You're welcome! :) That is an extremely thoughtful answer...thanks for that, it's very interesting to hear your perspective ~ certainly a unique one. :) When you say that you are
Art Facultee, do you teach art and / or music? Also it's quite cool to hear that your mother is an artist. I'm sure that has influenced you a lot. :)

Looking forward to seeing much more of your work!

Cheers, :)

~Rebeccak

Prisca712
07-19-2006, 03:45 PM
Hi johnepic :) I defintely like what you've put up so far...I agree w/Rebecca that your lines have a really appealing fluidity to them that's evident even in the quick 2 minute sketches. Though those are the simmplest, the clean linework does a really nice job of conveying the gesture and form of the figures. Nice job on the head - I think it's looking really good, and if I had to crit anything it would just be to push the contrast just a teensy bit more in some of the more shadowed areas. I can't wait to see your progress!

Mu
07-19-2006, 04:01 PM
Welcome to this section of the anatomy forum johnepic!

nice gestural sketches you've got there. It was interesting to read your view on why you do art. Certainly the opposite of my approach which is basically l'art pour l'art, or more simply, I don't know why, I just want to...:D, and because it's such a differing view it's so interesting to me...

lookin forward what becomes of this...

:thumbsup:

johnepic
07-20-2006, 06:47 PM
I'll try to reply them in order.

Rebeccak

I'm SO sorry.. I made a spelling mistake. I wanted to say Faculty instead of Facultee.
I wanted to say that being in an art FACULTY gives you another perspective of what art could be and blah blah blah....
Anyway, i DO teach piano lessons, but i'm not a professional teacher, though i have some years of study and experience (12).

Pricsa712

Thank you for your comment and that valuable advice! I'll put more effort on the contrast issue.. i guess shading is not my best feature.. =) May be i'll try with another medium, different than blank paper + 3B graph pencil.. =)

Mu

Glad to hear that. I guess L'art pour l'art is something really natural and has been even purposed as a guideline for some artistic groups, but i also think that, wether you like it or not, your art will always have something on it which will go beyond the pure aesthetic pleasure (or art as a goal and not as a language) and that is (in my opinion) the symbolic power that's inherent to any artistic expression, the chance it has to be assimilated by spectators which will interpret and handle it from their own perspective and that creates lots of things and possibilities.. Anyway, it's always possible to make art just for yourself and never show it to anyone, but in that case that symbolic matter will affect yourself as any other spectator... so i think that behind any artistic expression, lies that feature, that one may never have conscience of its presence, but that doesn't make it dissapear.

I guess the difference between our approach to art is just a motivation issue.. i do it because i like to think that all the things i said before are true, though i may never reach such an ambicious goal..while your approach is more natural and may be personal.. but i do think that each one of them has things in common =) and obsiously, neither of them is better or worse, just different :)

johnepic
07-20-2006, 06:49 PM
Well, here's my 2nd head. I guess i'll try with different mediums from now.
Done in 3B graph pencil

Mu
07-20-2006, 08:07 PM
ah well, johnepic,

not that I dont enjoy feedback, too, and I am sure there's an impact on any given spectator of a piece of art wether it be a painting, drawing, statue, music, book, poem a.s.o.

And I will have to admit that I tweak my works of art so that I assume the reaction on the spectator's side is at least strong somehow.

still watching...maybe the last head a bit too bright? Dont have the ref at hand, but these pieces serve mileage more than anything else, so there's no point in critiquing them to death.

Just keep going, mate.

:)

Rebeccak
07-21-2006, 05:54 AM
johnepic,

No worries! :) Ah, cool to hear that you teach piano, do you find that really rewarding? :) Wow, I think this last portrait shows improvement over the last ~ try shading a bit more evenly and consistently, and really follow the topology of the form you are describing. Looking forward to much more! :)

Cheers,

~Rebeccak

Rebeccak
07-21-2006, 05:55 PM
johnepic,

My apologies for getting back to you so late regarding your question by pm, I hope you don't mind if I answer it here, since I think that others might benefit from the same links. :)

I know that the forum can be confusing / overwhelming, so here are a few links which I think may be of use to you and others: :)

Anatomy Review Series (Concluded Workshop, but open for browsing):

TUTORIAL SUMMARY - Anatomy Review 003 Shading Tutorial - Tutorial Material Only (http://forums.cgsociety.org/showthread.php?p=3500445#post3500445)

Rebecca Kimmel Anatomy Reviews (http://forums.cgsociety.org/showpost.php?p=2602752&postcount=2)

TUTORIAL - General Principles of Anatomical and Figurative Art / Cross Hatching (http://forums.cgsociety.org/showthread.php?t=374939&highlight=Cross+Hatching)

Subscribe here to receive email notification of new Tutorials / Workshops on the Anatomy Forum:

Notification of New Open Figure Drawing Workshops / + TUTORIALS - SUBSCRIBE HERE! (http://forums.cgsociety.org/showthread.php?t=379951)

15 Minute Sketchathon:

Links to the best Tutorials and Workshops on the Anatomy Forum:

Hope this helps! Let me know if you need any help navigating the forum. :)

Cheers,

~Rebeccak

johnepic
07-23-2006, 07:24 PM
Thank you, Mu, for your kind comments! I'm trying now with other mediums, they'll be soon up =) I'll pay you a visit soon too :)

Rebeccak

Thank you for everything! your links have been really useful, and i hope they are for other begginers like me =).

Well, here i am presenting my first trial with a skull, still in traditional medium (3b pencil).. i tried shading like it looked in the shading tutorial, thanks to Becca for that..

http://i112.photobucket.com/albums/n182/johnepic/1st-skull.jpg

johnepic
07-24-2006, 11:13 PM
Well, i haven't been able to paint too much cause i got stuck on this one.. it was my first time trying to actually paint digitally (like if i was painting traditionally..) and it was painful but i guess i got something out =D

Here it goes, my 3rd head (yes, i'm very late..)- In case you didn't recognize it, it's head nº16. (i used a little noise filter just for the flavor :P.. didn't put too much effort on the background, for i tried to do my best on the head)

Special Thanks to Architectus for his very useful Nymph video!!

Rebeccak
07-25-2006, 02:09 AM
johnepic,

Great to see your skull exercise here! :) Would love to see you do the side view as well. :)

Nice job with this first portrait! My one critique might be that the contrast is a bit low ~ also, I'm curious to know if you combined media here? :)

Keep up the good work!

Cheers,

~Rebeccak

johnepic
07-26-2006, 04:25 AM
thanks, I'll get that side view of the skull as soon as possible.

Also, with the portrait, i tried my best to make it look like the original one.. i don't know what could be missing, though i agree on the contrast topic. It was my first trial with photoshop (and that blending mode Architectus showed in his nymph video).. i may use some advide there too, tahnks for asking.
oh, on that question about the media, i sketched it on paper, thenk i scanned it and paitned it in photoshop. I used a noise filter when i was done, just to make it look more alike, but i guess i regret it a little right now.. i still got the psd, before the filter, may be i could post it here after i give it a little more work =)
Thanks for the feedback :)

johnepic
07-26-2006, 10:48 PM
My 4th head, head nº5 (number scrambling *¬*) is here.. it's just a quicky, due to the end of the 50 heads ODFW ... i couldn't get more done u_u but well, i had a great time doing the ones i already posted here and there.. Thanks to everyone who posted on that great thread :) http://i112.photobucket.com/albums/n182/johnepic/headn5.jpg

johnepic
04-03-2007, 02:19 AM
Hello people!
I know i know, i've been VERY away.. you know, college and stuff.. but i've been visiting CGtalk as usual and i also wanted to join the last OFDW, though i couldnt finish before the deadline :(
Anyway, when i realized that i wouldnt be able to finish it, i decided to skip the "devil/angel" topic and focus on the figure, just to take advantage of the chance to advance a little ^^u

I must say that i've been seeing all the great tutorials posted here and they have been incredibly useful.. thanks to all of you guys (special m ention to "Someidiot" who made the brushes i used for the piece i got here)

Well, here's what i was working on. To see it fullsized, please visit the link below.
Thank you!

http://www.deviantart.com/deviation/52301020/http://i112.photobucket.com/albums/n182/johnepic/annaris-portrait11.jpg

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