Gods & Demons - Character - Matt Clark

[Hmura]

Look whos back, come on m8, show us something :wip:

[Taoizm]

AAHHHHH Matt's here.... (mass panic ensues) :) :applause:

[leigh]

Yeah come on Matt! I LOVED your pirate!!! Now I'm waiting to see what you have in store for us now....

[lildragon]

wow Matt I'm not surprised you're here, this is a lovely topic for you :)

a su salud :beer:

[Joebount]

Someone gotta kill this guy ... hum : special rule for you : you don't start before the 4 april 11pm

Do the moderators agree ? :D :D :D

Glad you're here !

[Cédric]

I don' t know if the mods agree but i agree :D :D :D héhé :)

I m happy to see you here matt,
see you on cgtalk ;)

[Piz]

Ops.... Another Outsider here.... :D

Matt I love your works!!!!!! :cool:

...but..... I will lose another contest.... uahhhhhhhh!!!!!

Bye
Piz

:)

P.S.
...... Why you don't give me a 3D Chewbacca? My God! He is alive...

B R A V O !!!!

You are a Master........ :eek:

[rendermonkey23]

C'mon guys, you gotta be more positive. "I WILL win"
By the way... dont forget this is a challenge, not a contest :)

Good to see you back Matt

[MDB101]

Matt Clark eh... I have seen his works and he is good at what he does and keep up the good work clarky! But this is a challege! thats why I entered! I will try my very best now that matt clark is in... This is gunna be a tuff one.. Luckly that Pascal Blanche Didn't enter this contest or this would be a truely of a task! anyways good to you all man!

[sigma]

*sigma runs away.

:scream:

[Matt-Clark]

Dammit, I just don't get the spare time to do this anymore!

In my delay it seems that someone else came up with the
same idea as me - doing the elephant headed Indian god
Ganesh. I'm going to soldier on with him though.

Only had a few hours on him so far, decided to do him
very differently from the usual stylised depictions.
He's going to be very ornate, plenty of regal jewelry
and robes.

http://mattclark.cgcommunity.com/ganesha.jpg

[Cédric]

ah yeah :) good start master :D

I hope you will finish it :)

see you

[henry]

i hate you.

you are superb.

this is the end.

dot.

:wavey:

[Sangotten]

Just how I like my elefant god.....Big and Nasty!

Great start and we'll see who will finish the best Ganesha!;)

[Fetus23]

oh ya this is good.
babar meets satan...sweet stuff.
more more

[BOROX]

:eek: wooow good work... Hmmm Matt this is boxmodeling ? I`m novice :)

[hiko_]

great start :)

it's not a jocke ...
http://dontyson.tripod.com/behemoth.html

[Matt-Clark]

Small update:

http://www.clarky85.freeserve.co.uk/ganesha16.jpg
http://www.clarky85.freeserve.co.uk/ganesha18.jpg
http://www.clarky85.freeserve.co.uk/ganesha17.jpg[

[givetommoney]

that's one nice looking, fat ganesh

i'm glad you're still in, i began to think that you quit

[Joel Hooks]

sweet Ganesh! I am working on a fatty too (check him out below). Yours is a much more interesting image though. By your description all of the ornate jewlery and robes is gonna look GREAT! I look forward to watching the progress.

[Taoizm]

good lord, why are you so good? :D Looking really sweet Matt. can't wait to see more

[Koma]

one of my favorite ,really cool

[so_hi]

I really like your anatomy decisions looks very plausible. I like all the flabby folds of fat, the feet even look like a fat persons feet.

Only crit is I really dislike the hat.

Nice Job. :applause: :applause: :applause:

[hobbes]

:eek: just wooowwww.
Very good model matt!!! :wip: :wip:
I love these proportions!it's a very good design.
i've got nothing to say it's very good.
hope to see this good stuff finish!!!!

Well done:wip:

[craiggulow]

WoW! your Ganesha rockS! I like how you attached the second set of arms...

[Kaos]

well, i looked and i looked, and the only thing i could find wrong with it is:

1: the trunk has a big hole in it.... but thats probably because you have not got to it yet!!!

2: there is bad AA....


Matt, any chance we could get some views of the control cage?? close ups of the main features... hands, shoulders..... feet.... etc?????

:D :scream: :p :D

[Threedeemer]

Excellent so far! The hands and feet look perfect.

[skunk184]

and the winner is.....Matt Clark!!!your Ganesh rocks, i cant wait to see the next update

[Facial Deluxe]

Excellent ! I made his little brother last month !

[Kaos]

Hey Matt, i just checked your site, have not been there in a while.... and i must say, that is the FIRST time i have ever seen Nemesis in colour......... nice work on him... what about his other half, the leader of the ABC warriors, they are joined and one cannot die without the other (oh i hope i am remembering this correctly, its been a while since i read 2000AD).... so, how can one exist without the other...... model him, whats his name, is it Deadlock or something like that??

[SpaceJASE]

that's looking really nice!
the proportions are great.
i think you've nailed it on all aspects.
now we're all waiting for the finer details!

[Dark_Des]

Ganesh Rules :wip: :wip: :wip:

[Y-Guy]

Awsome Matt! I have a suggestion though: You could make the elephant man dance! I know that you like to animate your finished products, so make him dance afterwards please!

[Baldric]

Four Stars... Damn! This has to be the best one so far and he's only getting four stars.

Matt, great model, excellent. Really strong outlines, nice shape, good curves. But what makes this model great is the _idea_ , the theme if you will. While everyone else and their Grandma are creating 'generic demon number 124-b' you've made something that stands out. It looks like it has a personallity, substance.

So far the only model that makes me think 'damn, would I ever like to animate that sucka' :-)

Cheers.

[Matt-Clark]

I've had my doubts about this model - I've not had the time I'd usually like to devote to it, and I've also felt it was below my usual par, but the response has been positive. (thanks ;) )

I knew from the second I saw the challange that most would opt for the the stereo-typical demon theme, and wanted to do something a little different. I'm not saying that the standard of the modelling has dropped, (in fact I'd say it's got much better since the first challenge) but people tend to go for tried and tested ideas.
'Gods and demons' is the theme and the temptation is to create demons because they are visually exciting, and appeal to the £D audience, but to do anything that stands out in this field I think you have to excel at what you're doing. The whole winged/hooved beast thing has been done to death in my opinion. Whats the harm in modeling a true god? Why all the negativity? There's a whole buch of visually interesting positive icons out there.

Ganesh(a) is my attempt at taking an existing deity and stamping my own style on his image in a way I've not seen before. He's no demon and so I'm not counting on him looking ferocious/exciting and winning that side of the audience. I just want him to look great and appeal to everyone in an original way.
Hopefully I'll get there....

[JayDog]

Matt,
I agree with what your saying. Im really one to talk because my entry is what you would call "normal", but I still feel what your saying. I have noticed with the entries that most of the ideas are very similar. People seem to try to create something that looks "cool". I feel that the most sucessful models are the ones that are extremely creative. Have some sort of spin on them that completely catch you off guard. They can be humorous or even disturbing. I feel that the movie industry is a lot like that today. Most movies are copies of things that have "worked" (as in made a lot of money). Oh well.

JayDog

[skunk184]

Matt your obviously an extremely talented artist .... i too went for something more tranquil but my talent is nt nearly as great as yours so i get by on what ive got......not everyone has the ability to create amazing original designs and the title of gods and demons suggests youll get exactly that.......

[JayDog]

Skunk,
Everyone may not have the ability to produce an amazing original design, but its nice to think outside the box sometimes. You can produce some pretty cool models with only a small understanding of a 3d program. Its all about how you go about doing it. I currently go to a traditional art school. There are artists here that are technically amazing, but it comes to a point when it becomes boring to see a perfectly rendered portrait. I've seen too many portraits before to get excited about it. You can make it interesting by putting some sort of spin on it. Rather than just a straight forward picture (model). I guess its just something to think about.


JayDog

[Wraith]

Man ya character has me blown away... Awesome, just awesome! Regarding the winged hoof thing, thats the road I took :( No matter its my first challenge n im tesing the waters I guess... But my character though a demon isnt necesarily evil, hopefully you see that in the final stage. Again though I cant praise yours enough, just awesome.

-----------------------------------

My March Challenge So Far (http://www.cgtalk.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=3816)

[Matt-Clark]

Update:

http://www.clarky85.freeserve.co.uk/ganesha21.jpg

[skunk184]

fecking awesome......beautiful even!!!!!!!

[CIM]

Very good.

[Joel Hooks]

it just keeps getting better!

The end of his trunk is a bit wimpy compared to the rest of his gargantuan self. I really like his hat, and the flowered lei he has going on. I am imagining the texturing possibilities :eek:

[l_farley13_l]

Love the new jewels ! That headress has tons of potential :) I kinda like the trunk the way it is; maybe a little bigger, but not much, makes him look more refined. Buda-ful :) (I know WRONG religon)

The cloth might use some folds of fat under it so it doesn't look like it will fall off :) (oooh a naked elephant, who would do such a thing :D)

see you,

Farley13

[moonjelly]

Nice work Matt!

Ganesha - the Destroyer of Pride. I've always wanted to model this guy!

Being a freak for detail myself I would love to see you
add more of the subtleties that make Ganesh such an enigmatic Deity. His representation is laden with metaphor. You may or may not want to add this stuff or just continue on your own representation of him.

Consistent things you see in images of him:

Ganesh is usually represented with the broken tip of his right tusk in his lower right hand. It's a symbol of sacrifice, which he broke for writing the Mahabharata.

There's a rosary in his lower left hand which suggests the pursuit of knowledge.

In his upper right hand he has a Goad (axe/spear) which he uses to remove obstacles from mankinds way.

In his upper left he holds a noose which he uses to capture all difficulties.

He also often has a Laddoo (candy) in his trunk which indicates that one must discover the sweetness of Atman (the Soul)

He also has a snake around his waist which represents energy in all forms.

Of course all images of him vary a lot. But these might be of some inspiration.


Can't wait to see him finished.

[The Commander]

Blimey that is gorgeous, the detail! Wow! I personaly feel that the arms and head could be bigger, but it looks fantastic regardless. I'm jealous :annoyed:.

What do you use to render by the way?

[Matt-Clark]

Another View:
http://www.clarky85.freeserve.co.uk/ganesha22.jpg

There's lots that needs sorting out. The trunk is a bit of a hash a the moment. The creases are awfull and the shape and scale is a little off. There's some niggly things like clipping (where the head beads go through his head...) and the skinning on his arms is a little off, although I'll deal with that at the end.

He will have some more jewelry, in the shape of more bangles and arm bands. The crown will get more attention too.

One of the stories about Ganesha is where he fell off the back of his Rat (yes, he rides a rat.. I don't know how..) and being such a glut when he hit the floor his guts exploded all over the place. He carefully scraped them all up and put them back in, and then used a snake to tie his belly back up. So maybe we'll see a snake belt...

He's also supposed to be missing a tusk (more great stories for this one, including one version where he snapped it off to throw at the moon who had laughed at him spilling his guts.....)

[Matt-Clark]

Originally posted by moonjelly

Consistent things you see in images of him:

Ganesh is usually represented with the broken tip of his right tusk in his lower right hand. It's a symbol of sacrifice, which he broke for writing the Mahabharata.

There's a rosary in his lower left hand which suggests the pursuit of knowledge.

In his upper right hand he has a Goad (axe) which he uses to remove obstacles from mankinds way.

In his upper left he holds a noose which he uses to capture all difficulties.

He also often has a Laddoo (candy) in his trunk which indicates that one must discover the sweetness of Atman (the Soul)

He also has a snake around his waist which represents energy in all forms.


Seems You posted whilst I was writing my previous reply! You picked up on a couple of the things I mentioned, although I wasn't aware of some of these. I'll look into them, could be visually interesting...

Cheers,

[The Commander]

Originally posted by Matt Clark

He will have some more jewelry, in the shape of more bangles and arm bands. The crown will get more attention too.


Ooo! ooo! How about an ear piercing or 5?

[jose]

terrific model..as always!:applause:

just gotta ask, what renderer do you use... BRAZIL?
that blue-sh render stlye looks slick..it almost has become your signiture (WIP)style

[jbradford]

no real crits. just wanted to say it's nice to see something original. keep it up.

[Piz]

HI Matt.... :D

I'm amazed of your work!!! :cool:

Very Good!!!

Piz
:D

[Matt-Clark]

Update:

http://www.clarky85.freeserve.co.uk/ganesha24.jpg
http://www.clarky85.freeserve.co.uk/ganesha25.jpg

Lots still to add, lots still to correct....

[Piz]

Wow Matt!!!!

Impressive! :eek: :eek: :eek:

Bye
Piz

:)

[stipen]

as always.....Impressive details:D

[kfc]

Wow.... cool.
that's impressive~!
love the flowers around it's neck.
u have the right touch on it. i'm pretty sure because i can always see indians temple around my country. and this one look exactly like it.
superb modeling skill~!

[Lorenzo]

very nice detailed model I love it:thumbsup:
:D

[Matt-Clark]

'Look mommy, an axe wielding dancing elephant with four arms'
'<sigh> Yes dear, of course there is...'
http://www.clarky85.freeserve.co.uk/gann.jpg

[puddlefish]

Holy God that kicks ass.

[puddlefish]

By the way, that Nemesis character on your site is amazing, I'd kill to see pictures of the mesh. Ever thought of doing Deadlock or any of the ABC Warriors? I think you captured the comic lighting really well. Any plans to animate?

[Teyon]

I'm just loving this. Great work as always.

[BOROX]

Hi Matt i think that Axe is too small for this God Ganesh.

[Matt-Clark]

I've been a bit crap at answering comments, so here I go:

puddlefish: There's some renders of the Nemesis model in the wallpaper section of the official 2000ad site (www.2000adonline.com) I found this old pic on my drive which shows the mesh, albeit unfinished here.
No plans to do any other 2000ad characters at the moment.
http://www.clarky85.freeserve.co.uk/nemwire.gif

BOROX: Most depictions show a small axe. It's symbolic, and not meant to be a huge weapon such as Thors axe. I considered doing something like that, but it wasn't really fitting with the character.

Jose: Yes I use Brazil. I know the blue GI thing has been done to death, but I still like it, and think it shows off untextured models great. Recently been using HDRI stuff too.

The Commander: Ear piercings are in!

Here's the latest update:
http://www.clarky85.freeserve.co.uk/elephant.jpg
There's no AA and the GI settings are low which is whats creating the artifacts.
Still have a few things to model and tweak.

[sketchguy]

Very nice work Matt!

Will you be posting an animation test at all?

[pascal_blanche]

nice move Matt.. your character as amazing charisma and details, the repetition of flowers and pearls are adding a lot to this cool indi like god... 5 stars my friend ;) one little thing... er.. the flower in his hand should be a little bigger to make it different from the others.. huhuh tat`s the only thing i can say.. you rock! ;)

[fellah]

everything is great, great and... hmm, great! and even though it's great, it gets better for every update, I can only say:
- great!

[Rorschach]

You rule my friend!

Can't wait to see this finished, perhaps after Pascal and Wiro's success in the previous challanges it's time you got what you deserve!

Well, you will get my vote and for now 5 Stars from me ;)

RR

[gL_spear]

great as always Matt

see my March entry
http://www.cgtalk.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=4352&perpage=15&pagenumber=2

[leigh]

Holy smokes!!!

Oh my gawd that is AMAZING!!!!
Incredible work once again, Matt!!!

5 stars from me too! :D

[DirtyKilla]

i have only one word in my mind "WOW"
your sh*t is da bomb man

[Fit]

Sir, this is the first time i post, and my vote is for you. five stars.AMAZING :eek: :eek: :eek:

[BASSit]

Amazing ! I love the details !!!

Very clean modelling i think. What are your plans with that character after the challenge ? Will you animate it ?

The only thing that i don´t like is the fact that it´s not textured ;) But i hope to see some textured version soon - they would bring that model to live !

Regards

[Matt-Clark]

I have a sinking feeling that I'm not going to finish. :(

Haven't had time to do anything since Monday...

[Teyon]

Matt, you could do a render right now and still pull off the win, are ya kiddn'?!!? You're the only guy here to generate almost two pages of comments without even showing what you were gonna make! Trust me, it's in the bag. ;)

[Matt-Clark]

http://www.clarky85.freeserve.co.uk/ganesha_end.jpg

[kfc]

I've been waited for ur final image for the whole night.
:)
congrats~
Finally ur image is here.
I hope u'll win this~!
one more thing. the deco behind the character is overlapping the floor. perhaps u should life it off the ground abit?

[dies-irae]

Great one..
congrats...

i love the pose of the arms and the belly...
awesome work!

[pascal_blanche]

really nice subject/model, well documented :) you rock!

[OZ]

Just a question......the god is your character or YOU!!!!STUNNING!!!:eek:

[Matt-Clark]

Thanks for all the comments. I didn't really get the time to finish him as I envisioned, but I'm happy with the progress I made.
I'd change a whole bunch of stuff like work on the hands more, sort out the shoulders etc. I also wanted to make his head more wrinkly.

Anyway, here's a bunch of shots that I hadn't posted, including the obligatory wireframe ;)

http://www.clarky85.freeserve.co.uk/side.jpg
http://www.clarky85.freeserve.co.uk/wireframe.gif
http://www.clarky85.freeserve.co.uk/dance.jpg
http://www.clarky85.freeserve.co.uk/viewport.jpg
http://www.clarky85.freeserve.co.uk/feet.jpg

[lildragon]

Matt you freaking maniac, STOP YOURSELF!!!! my goodness man :) you have my vote... well excuted, and I love the balancing pose

cheers :beer:

[Cman]

Outstanding!
Perfectly done top to bottom. :)
Congratulations.

[SheepFactory]

Matt you are insane !!!!

:eek: :eek: :eek: :eek:

A|i

[Adam Klein]

the body shape is just great, but the most impressive I'd say is the way you hooked up your 2 extra arms, I've seen a lot of unconvicing attempts, but this one is right on.

really great character over all, the level of detail is very nice, I wonder how the hell you supporrted so many sub-d poly's, you must have a faaaaaast ass card.

A

[Koma]

one words incredible

[Abhinav3d]

Dude

I was so impressed by your work.. It is awesome...
keep it up...

I have seen Ganesha all my life and dreamed of making it in 3d.....

But U fulfilled my dream..


Keep up the good work...

God is with you...LOL

[phatgroovn]

This is a vey humbling WIP indeed.

:eek: :eek: :eek: :eek:

[jose]

:eek: (speechless)....

[Evil_Dr_Beefy]

coolness

[TedTerranova]

Very nice model. All your work is very impressive. I was wondering why that last shot focuses on the lower body where the pants seem to cut through the belt. It seems like the belt just needs to be pulled out a bit. Was this done on purpose? Considering how meticulous the rest of the model is, this seemed very odd. Anyway, just a little nitpick question I guess.

I'd love to see some mocap thrown on this character, with a little flex on the fat :) Whenever I see a great model, I always want to see it move. Great stuff.

[tophski]

Matt,
great work man. If I may ask, how long did that model take in total?

C.

[thx1138]

Can we all please stand up and :applause: :applause: :applause: :applause: :applause: :applause: :applause: :applause:

[Error323]

!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[henry]

simply. brilliant.

i. adore. you.

say, wanna trade brains?



p.s. that flowerish necklace's got some flowers intersecting with other flowers you might wanna check that out if you want it to be COPMLETELY PERFECT!!

LOVE YA MAN!!!

[AJ]

Once again Mr Clarke...

You will die by my hands for your skill! And I see a few more people added to the list from this competitions also...

All tremble as I smite thee with my sword of incompitance!

:rolleyes: :D

Pant-Piddlingly good work Mat, outstanding.

:)

[Troydm]

Cool model Man !!!
Very Inspiring !!!
I have seen it somewhere already !!!
Ohh Yes it's an India god maybe !!!

[lingesh]

awesome dude ... that's one of most realistic models of Lord Ganesha i've seen. the tummy could move slightly up the body though, as the original form of ganesha in the attached image.

Other than that, great work man ! you've done something i've been wanting to do for a long time.... my modeling really sucks ....

[lingesh]

sorry, the last ref image was really bad ....

[ruzz]

WOW!


excellent job!!!

insane work!




beautifull!

its my desktop wallpaper now.

which program did u use?

[Iguiniz.X.]

holly elefants,

damn this one is best one I've seen on the board until now.
:eek:
great feat and hands. And the Head of the elefant is excelent.
What a talent.

:wavey: :drool: :thumbsup: :wip: :buttrock:

It rocks

[TapioKa]

Hey Matt,

Truly, truly, truly amazing.
Incredible mastery of modelling, proportion, and detailing.
Many of the entries in this WIP are of beautiful quality.
Hey, if you were ever to offer a workshop or something in North America, I'd attend.

Once again my compliments.

cyril

:eek:

[rolhionjs]

WOW !! glurps... when i see that with my eyes of newbie, i think automatically : when will i be able to do that ? and will i never do something so detailed ? !!!

Gosh... Too good ! :) :) Again !!!

[Lorenzo]

:eek: :thumbsup: :bounce: :applause:
10 stars for the details, :D

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