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krpolak
07-09-2006, 11:26 AM
Thankfully to Rebeccak letting me know I can create my own thread here. That is great :)

I would like to do some practice with drawing human themes and hope I can get some response from more experienced artists in this field if somebody can find second or two.

I started do digital portrait of well know person. That is always good test since if executed with confidence that person should be easy to recognise ;-) I am doing this from reference photo and would like to put attention to general shading and details.

Here are two first stages: sketch/bloking and some smoothing/detailing.

Regards,

K.Polak


1.
http://www.krpolak.com/images/temp/krpolak_facebj_01.jpg



2.
http://www.krpolak.com/images/temp/krpolak_facebj_02.jpg

Rebeccak
07-09-2006, 10:45 PM
krpolak,

Welcome aboard! :) It's great to see your thread up, I look forward to seeing a lot of your work here. :)

One thing I recommend with your first sketch is to introduce more midtones ~ even adding a color layer on top of all layers and setting the blending mode to color. Then play with the hue / saturation of the color layer and the opacity. The key to painting is to work from dark to light ~ and not to go too light, even when you are painting light skin tones.

Looking forward to seeing more of your work!

Cheers, :)

~Rebeccak

krpolak
07-10-2006, 03:43 PM
Thanks Rebeccak. I could see after having break that the face was a bit flat. As you adviced I did extra layer and tried to shade half of the face, still allowing to have a bit light play. Hope that helps, however I would like to keep face relatively lighten up.

Possibly good excercise would be to build whole thing with large strokes of tones first ;-)

Here is progress.

Also one though came for me: drawing from a reference is easy and very difficult at the same time. Easy because most of the things are solved already and its only matter of copying it. And difficult becasue level of likeness is set so high that even slight difference might look huge. I recon its good excerise to start to recongise thing that seems obvious.

Regards,

K.Polak

http://www.krpolak.com/images/temp/krpolak_facebj_04.jpg

Rebeccak
07-18-2006, 12:22 AM
krpolak,

This is starting to look better! Do you have any updates? :)

Cheers,

~Rebeccak

krpolak
07-18-2006, 12:37 AM
Thanks Rebeccak,

Yes, I am still working on that, I did quite a work around eyes. However I had to take a break due to load of work. And then I was caugth by acrylics and somehow days passed ;-)

However I have in my mind some spice for this drawing, some creative additions. I will come back to that very soon :)

Regards,

K.Polak

krpolak
07-18-2006, 01:30 PM
Here we are, next stage.

As you can see I worked on face details. Also I decided to make a creative move and did the first "sketch" of my idea. Obviously taking into account the setup will require thinging again about toning, colour etc.

Regards,

K.Polak


http://www.krpolak.com/images/temp/krpolak_facebj_05.jpg

Rebeccak
07-19-2006, 07:13 AM
krpolak,

Nice update! I think the main thing atm I'm noticing that needs improvement is the depth of the face, which seems quite flat ~ try situating the eyes within their sockets, adding more shading there and to the cheeks. Also the outlining of the tubes is really making those a bit flat as well ~ particularly where they connect to the head.

Hope this helps. :)

Cheers,

~Rebeccak

krpolak
08-08-2006, 02:50 PM
All right. Have been away from here recently. Real life media kept me busy, but now is time to finish that one.

In the meanwhile I defined my idea, which for first sight might look completly different, but is not that far away. Still havent touched face shading. First I must precise helmet form then face will come as a result of that.

Regards,

K.Polak


http://www.krpolak.com/images/temp/krpolak_facebj_06.jpg

Intervain
08-08-2006, 08:03 PM
a nice thread - looking forward to more updates on this one :)

krpolak
08-09-2006, 02:25 PM
Thanks Magda. BTW, you have few nice models in your portfolio. Really good job :)

Ok, I polished helmet, next step will be face shading according to new lighting situation. I am planning add some drama.

Regards,

K.Polak


http://www.krpolak.com/images/temp/krpolak_facebj_07.jpg

Rebeccak
08-09-2006, 02:32 PM
krpolak,

Good to see your progress on this! I like the current image better than the previous wires ~ the main thing I would suggest is softening the jaggy edges about the edge of the face / head garment ~ and adding a bit of depth to the brown / negative spaces behind the figure.

Cheers, :)

~Rebeccak

krpolak
08-13-2006, 12:15 PM
I haven't had much time to work on that, but at least I tried to join face and helmet. Still more face shading to come.

Regards,

K.Polak

http://www.krpolak.com/images/temp/krpolak_facebj_08.jpg

krpolak
09-07-2006, 01:37 PM
The best way to refresh an eye is take a break ;-)

Regards,

K.Polak


http://www.krpolak.com/images/temp/krpolak_facebj_09.jpg

krpolak
09-10-2006, 08:35 AM
Further face features development.

Regards,

K.Polak


http://www.krpolak.com/images/temp/krpolak_facebj_10.jpg

Trunks
09-10-2006, 08:55 AM
Hi krpolak, very nice work! You should define the outline of the nose - mouth part more. It is a little soft there.

Keep it up!

krpolak
09-11-2006, 12:39 PM
ISSsss.....



http://www.krpolak.com/images/temp/krpolak_facebj_11.jpg


Thanks Thomas. There is need for some work in this area, but generally its going to be sort of what is now, soft light. I would not like to exagerate there and to prevent that I recon softness is necessary.

Regards,

K.Polak

krpolak
09-11-2006, 03:11 PM
Extra detail.

Regards,

K.Polak


http://www.krpolak.com/images/temp/krpolak_facebj_11b.jpg

krpolak
09-13-2006, 02:17 PM
All right, here is the next stage. That is the point where fun starts :)

As you see adding electric bolts on dark background generates a lot of contrast. And contrast is what atracts viewer attention. Because I still would like to keep focus on the face I must adjust lighting to get good contrast balance within frame.

Secondly I should add bluish light at the back of armour to keep lighting realistic. Also I should make better work with colour scheme in general. As you see I didnt do final sketch before major work, which is good practice, so now I have to redo things few times. However this project is sort of experimenation and it flows from idea to idea ;-)

Finally I will think about small, tricky detail to spice the whole thing up. Hope you enjoy so far :)

Regards,

K.Polak



http://www.krpolak.com/images/temp/krpolak_facebj_12.jpg

Talaria
09-14-2006, 03:44 PM
Wow O: great work on the eyes!

It looks so much better now that you added more depth.

krpolak
09-17-2006, 06:08 AM
Thanks Talaria!

Final stages are comming very soon. In the meanwhile I have done few quick sketches from life. I put here since its the same workflow and anyway that's my sketchbook :)

Regards,

K.Polak

http://www.krpolak.com/images/temp/krpolak_quicksketch_01.jpg

krpolak
09-19-2006, 01:29 PM
Here is next step. Hope that looks better. Obviously there is still some work on lighting required.

Regards,

K.Polak


http://www.krpolak.com/images/temp/krpolak_facebj_13.jpg

Rebeccak
09-19-2006, 03:13 PM
K.Polak,

Nice work on this, it's really coming together! :) One thing that is missing is teeth - something I hadn't noticed til now, but which is lending the person a bit of a babyish look, which I don't think is your intent. :) The side decorations, the blue with the white streaks, so far look a little flat, and I'm not sure if they're meant to be a reflective material, or little windows onto some kind of lightning scene in the distance. If they are meant to be such, it would help to make this more obvious, perhaps giving the windows a bit of depth. Looking forward to your updates!

Cheers,

-Rebeccak

krpolak
09-21-2006, 02:29 PM
Thanks Rebecca :)

Tell me if concept of blue-white strokes behind is clearer now. If not, it means I should work harder :)

I tried to compose some theeth before, but it did really work for me. I must think how to solve that properly.

Here is next step.

Regards,

K.Polak


http://www.krpolak.com/images/temp/krpolak_facebj_14.jpg

krpolak
09-25-2006, 03:09 PM
Next step. I think you were right Rebecca. Theeth give more expression. Thats better. Slowly its getting to the happy end ;-)

Regards,

K.Polak


.http://www.krpolak.com/images/temp/krpolak_facebj_15.jpg

Rebeccak
09-25-2006, 06:33 PM
Ah, definitely much better with teeth. :) I feel like I'm looking at an adult now, and the expression seems more serious. A suggestion might be to add a bit more of soft contrast between the outer edge of her cloak and the background. Near the upper areas the headress blends a bit confusingly with the bkgrd, you don't want to add a total halo effect, but just make the offset more intentional looking perhaps. Keep up the good work. :)

Cheers,

-Rebeccak

krpolak
09-28-2006, 03:33 PM
Thank Rebecca. I did few more touches and I think that will be all. I am getting tired and blind with this project ;-)

Regards,

K.Polak


http://www.krpolak.com/images/temp/krpolak_facebj_16.jpg

Rebeccak
10-02-2006, 11:25 PM
K.Polak,

I think this turned out quite lovely. :) I like the soft glow about the eyes, overall I would say that the image is rendered harmoniously. I think the added touches of blue reflective light around the hood have really cleaned things up and solidified the image. All round, nice work! :)

Cheers,

-Rebeccak

krpolak
10-03-2006, 12:12 AM
Thanks Rebecca for your help and feedback. Good advice is always appreciated. I will came back with a new painting soon. It will be set in japanese emperor palace. But first I must sort out some stuff with real world media :)

Regards,

K.Polak

krpolak
10-14-2006, 02:03 PM
Real stuff - charcoal :)

Lady in hat

All comments are welcome :)

Regards,

K.Polak


http://www.krpolak.com/images/temp/krpolak_portrait_charcoal_2.jpg

NR43
10-15-2006, 04:36 PM
Hello Krystian

nice work with the painting!
I sure hope to see more traditional works from you... :)

Cris-Palomino
10-15-2006, 06:08 PM
Wow, it was really a pleasure to see how you put this together, Krystian. Beautifully done. You should try putting together an animated gif of your stages...those can be very fun...like flipbooks.

I look forward to seeing more of your work.

Cris

krpolak
10-17-2006, 12:16 PM
Thanks a lot guys for your comments :)

I tried to improve this drawing and it seems that overall contrast better defines focus point. I am almost happy with this drawing, except the hat. Well, next time will be better ;-)

Regards,

K.Polak


http://www.krpolak.com/images/temp/krpolak_portrait_charcoal_3.jpg

krpolak
10-28-2006, 01:18 AM
Quick study for next comming project.

Regards,

K.Polak


http://www.krpolak.com/images/temp/krpolak_piper_01.jpg

krpolak
10-28-2006, 09:26 AM
Ok, here comes the projects.

Portrait of Piper Perabo based on a photo. Oil on primed paper, A4 size. Very first underpaintig stage, basicly a sketch to have something to start with. I already see few urgent corrections ;-)

Any comments as always welcome :)

Regards,

K.Polak

http://www.krpolak.com/images/temp/krpolak_piper_02.jpg

NR43
10-28-2006, 09:32 AM
Hi krpolak
could we see the ref?

There is no ear or it is placed too far away from the face
it seems the angle of the head is slightly upward... in that case I think the lines of the eyebrows and eyes should have a different angle...
not sure though as I haven't seen the ref ;)

krpolak
10-28-2006, 10:42 AM
Not yet. I will once major shapes will be locked. Now it doesnt look like its supposed to :)

I know the ear is missing. I will decide later about head back, so there is not much point to paint it now :)

Regards,

K.Polak

krpolak
10-28-2006, 03:58 PM
Next stage. I start redefining shades and make soft background for further layering.

Regards,

K.Polak

http://www.krpolak.com/images/temp/krpolak_piper_03.jpg

krpolak
10-29-2006, 02:44 AM
Next step. I am trying to lock eyes, nose and lips. Its seems getting closer, but there is still some work to do around those areas. However now I can work more by comparision to the ref photo and eliminate distorsion step by step. The more I look the more I become aware of her face features. Taking time is the key expresion here :)

Regards,

K.Polak


http://www.krpolak.com/images/temp/krpolak_piper_04.jpg

krpolak
10-30-2006, 11:46 AM
Thanks Bernie :)

Its amazing to see in practise how a milimiter difference or slight twist in an angle can change face appereance. Its realy tricky to depict well humans face. I know I could use a grid or one of transfering methods, but I recon its good exercise to learn something about keeping things in riht places.

Next step, further shading and shapes definding. Now I can see how much previous one was unperfect :) This one is propably also not :)

Regards,

K.Polak



http://www.krpolak.com/images/temp/krpolak_piper_05.jpg

krpolak
10-31-2006, 11:45 AM
Well, further shading and revealing some details :)

Regards,

K.Polak


http://www.krpolak.com/images/temp/krpolak_piper_06.jpg

SpiritDreamer
10-31-2006, 12:25 PM
Hi....Krystian...:thumbsup:

Just stopping by, to tell you that I really like the soft atmospheric feel that you are getting in that last piece you posted.....nice values and tones happening...getting a really nice mood there...:applause: :thumbsup:
You might soften the outter edges of the dark that surrounds the far side of her face a little more...my eye keeps being drawn there ...:)
REALLY looking forward to seeing more of your work and progress...:thumbsup:
TAKE CARE
Glenn

krpolak
10-31-2006, 12:36 PM
Thanks,

I agree its going well. I remember about hard edges, but that problem for later. In my technique, which involves a lot of layering its something that can be solved later, so I make final adjustment to focus point by this aspect of the images as wel. Basicly this painting is like working in Photoshop :)

Regards,

K.Polak

krpolak
11-02-2006, 11:23 AM
More shading. I have tried to work on eye, chin, nose and part above lips.

Regards,

K.Polak

http://www.krpolak.com/images/temp/krpolak_piper_07.jpg

krpolak
11-03-2006, 12:24 PM
Next step. I have reshaped the cheek (still some softening necessary) and worked on the lips. Slowly front part of the face is getting to the end.

Once it will be done I must think about background and where I want to put focus point. My choice will be propably lips. If that the case I am going to do top part of the backgroud relatively bright (and soften forehead edge) whereas keep bottom darkish so it will give good contrast to lips.

Regards,

K.Polak


http://www.krpolak.com/images/temp/krpolak_piper_08.jpg

krpolak
11-08-2006, 09:35 AM
Have been busy recently, but I am back on track.

I locked the face shading, even if some details and minor work is still necessary. I added a background which will pull attention to lips and ease out forehead. Also I started shading back of the head. Its slowly getting to the end.

Regard,

K.Polak


http://www.krpolak.com/images/temp/krpolak_piper_09.jpg

krpolak
11-08-2006, 12:52 PM
Inspired by a fellow artist's small paintings and having opportunity to have some time while my Piper's portrait is drying I did this quick, 20-minutes, 5x7 inches sketch. Possibly I will carry it further. W&N Griffin oild on canvas board.

Regards,

K.Polak


http://www.krpolak.com/images/temp/krpolak_worried_01.jpg

Rebeccak
11-08-2006, 02:56 PM
I like the subtle development of these pieces and the soft tones that you are giving them. I also like the idea of doing these small paintings and studies. They all have such a quiet sensibility - I think you might really enjoy doing still life paintings as well. Have you done many paintings of objects? Might be cool to see. :)

krpolak
11-08-2006, 10:15 PM
Thanks Rebecca. I like interesting lighting and trying to catch it in my images, making them visually appealing. I have started to work in traditional medium since I find it quicker then digital, even having good tablet. Somehow one stroke of brush or pastel can create immidiately a thing. However it might be rather unpopular view on this forum :)

I havent done much paintings. Generally I am cg guy, but I might change it in short future. The few I have got with still life could be this watercolour:

http://www.krpolak.com/images/gallery_illustration_watercolourgouache_01.jpg

or this pastel:

http://www.krpolak.com/images/gallery_illustration_pastelcharcoal_02.jpg

A day is too short to do everything ;-)

Anyway I just grab a commision due to this paintings :)

Regards,

K.Polak

krpolak
11-18-2006, 09:04 AM
Rebbecka,

For your interest I have done two oil sketches recently, however they are not anatomical :)

Regards,

K.Polak


http://www.krpolak.com/images/temp/krpolak_forwardfortune_sketch.jpg




http://www.krpolak.com/images/temp/krpolak_forwardfortune_sketch_2.jpg

krpolak
11-19-2006, 10:32 AM
I am back with the portrait. I started to work on the head back. I am trying to place the ear in right position and must say its weird exercise :) Also I finished some shading and details on the front face. And the most important thing - I matched photo contrast with painting. Now looks much closer.

Regards,

K.Polak


http://www.krpolak.com/images/temp/krpolak_piper_10.jpg

krpolak
12-22-2006, 02:20 PM
Finaly got back to painting and decided to do quick reminder how to handle paint. 5x7 inches, knife, W&N Griffin and 1 hour of fun.

Regards,

K.Polak


http://www.krpolak.com/images/temp/krpolak_oldish_lady.jpg

krpolak
12-25-2006, 11:41 AM
Once more exercise, this time with brush. Again 5x7 inches, W&N Griffin.

"Maasai"

Regards,

K.Polak


http://www.krpolak.com/images/temp/krpolak_maasai.jpg

deco-3d
12-25-2006, 04:29 PM
Wow, what a terrific face on this last one, she has a lot of character! I wonder if her right cheek is a little wider/lower then it should be? But, I really like her. Keep up the good work.


Abby

Intervain
12-25-2006, 06:31 PM
Hey krystian - really nice to see someone doing things the traditional way :thumbsup: - makes me tempted to buy a canvas and some paints :D

Sweet stuff!

krpolak
12-25-2006, 10:38 PM
Thanks guys for comment :)

Deco-3d, generally the head should be slightly on an angle, not full front shot. Possibly other part dont fit this idea in 100%, so thats confusion. I will check it :)

Intervain, you know what? CG is great, has some many possibilies, but a real canvas is a real canvas. Propably is sounds like heresy on this forum :D Anyway its great fun, go ahead and try it :)

Regards,

K.Polak

derseemann
12-26-2006, 10:05 PM
This is awesome:



http://www.krpolak.com/images/temp/krpolak_forwardfortune_sketch_2.jpg

krpolak
12-28-2006, 11:28 AM
Thanks Derseemann. This one will develop into full size painting. Propably I will do clouds more greyish, so it will nicely support of whole idea.

In the meanwhile I prepare quick sanguine sketch for next oil portrait. How cool is sanguine :)

Regards,

K.Polak


http://www.krpolak.com/images/temp/krpolak_mrforbes_sketch.jpg

anandpg
12-28-2006, 04:34 PM
Hi krystian!! really cool paintings!!:thumbsup: looking forward to more!

krpolak
12-30-2006, 05:11 AM
I consider this one getting close to the end. I would be happy if any one can notice/indicate what is wrong here (except lack of eyelashes and eyebrows). General though are welcome.

Regards,

K.Polak


http://www.krpolak.com/images/temp/krpolak_piper_11.jpg

Mu
12-30-2006, 01:29 PM
hi krpolak

I am really envious of the intensity combined with the subtle lighting in your traditional work.

Please do more of these, I really enjoy looking at them...

If you are looking for suggestions for the lates piece, I would say that I am missing a light on the nostril as it also faces the light source. Right now it's so dark that it looks as if the nostril is so lean/thin that it is not exposed to the light source and I don't know if that's what you wanted...

SylvanMist
12-30-2006, 07:45 PM
Hi Krpolak,
I really like the values you used in the last piece. I think "what is wrong" might be that the whole mouth & chin area are jutting forward a bit too much, giving her a bit of an ape like appearance. If you pull them back further it should help.

krpolak
01-01-2007, 09:35 AM
Mu, thanks. Its good point. I lighteed up this area a bit and now gets more three dimmentional look.

Roja, you are absolutelly right. Low jaw is placed about 5mm too forward. I have noticed this mistake some time ago, but shading was too advanced to move backward. Thats were lack of proper preliminary sketched takes price :)

I am working on hair, dificult part.

In the meanwhile, quick 1 hour sketch in oil, 5x7 inches.

"Little Buddha"

Regards,

K.Polak


http://www.krpolak.com/images/temp/krpolak_buddha.jpg

krpolak
01-05-2007, 07:29 AM
"On Desert"

Regards,

K.Polak


http://www.krpolak.com/images/temp/krpolak_on_desert.jpg

krpolak
01-05-2007, 10:06 AM
One more 1 hour quick sketch. As always comments are welcome.

"Polar Bear"

Regards,

K.Polak


http://www.krpolak.com/images/temp/krpolak_polar_bear.jpg

NR43
01-05-2007, 10:54 AM
Haven't checked any refs for this but I feel the head looks a bit squeezed, mainly the nose and the mouth...

just a hunch ;)


love the nomade. A couple of eyes will give him a lotta personality

krpolak
01-12-2007, 01:19 PM
Done.

It seems more jaggy (higher local contrast) on the monitor then on the canvas. I guess simply canvas dynamic range is much higher then monitor. I tried to get as close as possible. Looks better in real :)

Any comments are welcome.

Regards,

K.Polak


http://www.krpolak.com/images/temp/krpolak_piper_12.jpg

krpolak
01-14-2007, 03:12 AM
Its time to make Mr Forbes portrait by photo provided generously my wetcanvas' lisilk user. The photo was cropped and processed to better visualise Mr Forbes face features. Here is the reference:


http://www.krpolak.com/images/temp/krpolak_mrforbes_ref.jpg


And here is the first layer to establish main shapes:


http://www.krpolak.com/images/temp/krpolak_mrforbes_01.jpg


W&N Griffin Oils on cavas board, 12x16''. To keep this thread alive any comments are welcome :)

Regards,

K.Polak

Rebeccak
01-14-2007, 04:35 PM
I just picked up "Classical Drawing Atelier", a book by J. Aristides - I had seen it mentioned many times on forums and by Intervain here - it's something I think you should really check out with your interest in oil. :) It would be great to see more contrast and oopfmph (for lack of a better word :)) in your pieces - getting a larger value range, and even, perhaps, just working larger, might allow you to get more detail in your pieces.

Looking forward to seeing more! :)

krpolak
01-14-2007, 10:35 PM
Thanks Rebecca. I have just ckecked "Classical Drawing Atelier" and price here in Australia is $AU59 comparing to $AU24 on Amazon. So Amazon goes. At the same time I ordered "The Painter in Oil" by Daniel Burleigh Parkhurst. 400+ pages for 15 bucks sounds resonable :) Just kidding. Seems to be interesting book. Thank for info.

I know what you mean with contrast and size. This one is larger so hopefully capable to keep more detail. Lets see how it goes :)

Regards,

K.Polak

Rebeccak
01-14-2007, 10:44 PM
That's great! :) I think you will really, really like this book. I have so many books on my "to buy" list that I am afraid to buy any of them :D - but this one seemed irresistable. I am so happy to see a revival of atelier training, I just wish that I had known about ateliers a little bit earlier. But this gives me a bit of vicarious atelier living, and who knows, I may end up at one! :)

NR43
01-15-2007, 08:24 AM
Hey krpolak

great start on that last portrait.
I think his left cheek bone should be more protruding. (i know you will say I painted it, but very lightly, but I still think it should be more protruding than you painted it ;) )

Also, be careful where you're going with that upper lip (lef side). i think it might be easy to get the mouth out of line over there.

the angle of the cap's flap (donnow the english word) is off. You've painted it parallel to the brow line but it's really not.

Didn't want to sound harsh. If I do I apologize. Just thought it might be best to come up with these at the early stage the painting is, rather than you having to find out when it's nearly finished :D

Looking forward to see the next update

krpolak
01-15-2007, 12:01 PM
Rebeccak,

I have organised small, temporary, but my own alterie in my home. Its great, I can mess paints and brushed around and who cares :)


NR43, I would be offended by lack of comments hehe :) Seriously, feedback, especially constructive is always welcome. The issues you mentioned are well spotted. Generaly, if somebody is interested in the process, I try to work from larger shapes to smaller and get likeness by comparition and correction. At the moment I dont care much about correct values, ligter/darker is good enough. But you are definitelly right, it needs wider range. Right now I am trying to lock shapes and lines, so will create sort of map for more accurate tonning in the meanwhile.

As you can see here is next update. Few point that come to me after this session:

1. I tried to lock eyes first, they are the most important. His left one is a bit too small, so it doesnt get close enough to cheek and create impression that cheek should be cut off closer, which propably is not right jujding by jaw-cheek-ear line. Eyes need more work, definitely.

2. Then next was the nose, its not easy part considering play of light and shadow

3. His lips are very tricky. Its sort of lips that seems to smile even is he doesnt really. He must be happy man. I already see that his right lips end goes too high. Very tricky. Lets leave mustache alone ;-)

And generally I tried to introduce some more valuse so shapes that could give me more stuff to compare. Now I must sit and think :)

Thanks again guys for your comment and encouragement.


Regards,

K.Polak

PS: I put his left lip side too far :)


http://www.krpolak.com/images/temp/krpolak_mrforbes_02.jpg

krpolak
01-16-2007, 12:41 PM
Next step. I worked on eyes and nose. I think now proportions are closer. Also I worked on lips and introduced mustache. Improved modeling and detail around jaw. Lips are not fully solved, but definitelly closer. It seems to me that there is some progress, hopefully.

Regards,

K.Polak


http://www.krpolak.com/images/temp/krpolak_mrforbes_03.jpg

Cyanid
01-16-2007, 12:47 PM
this portrait is turning out nice!
I don't know what resolution you are working at, but my advise is to work bigger than you need...so you can always zoom in on details without going to small. Could you post some close-ups? Then its easier to c&c (for me)

keep it up!

-Cyanid

krpolak
01-16-2007, 12:52 PM
Cyanid,

Thanks, I like it also so far and that is not usual :)

The piece size is 12x16 inches, no resolution, its analog media. Oil on canvas board :)

I will post some details after next few stages. At the moment I am pretty much blocking larger shapes and in fact there is no real detail. If I will make a close up there will be just few greish spots :)

Regards,

K.Polak

Cyanid
01-16-2007, 12:57 PM
my bad! :banghead:
that explains a lot, I was wondering where the unusual texture (for digital media) did come from haha, but now I know. well, good luck and I'll see how it turns out then ;)

krpolak
01-16-2007, 12:57 PM
Actually just for curiosity one close up :)

Regards,

K.Polak


http://www.krpolak.com/images/temp/krpolak_mrforbes_04.jpg

NR43
01-16-2007, 01:19 PM
It's going great :)
nice to see the detail

krpolak
01-17-2007, 12:31 PM
All right, flying on wings of your comments guys here is next stage :)

Working on likeness and I think I am getting close. I impoved cap shadow, cheeks shapes, nose, added some details to mustache and few other minor things. What your fresh eye says? :)

Regarding background and other parts I am gong to paint is in semi realistic way with larger brush strokes. I would like to put focus in his eyes and since they will be more or less in shady area (due to lighting) I think keeping only his face fairly detailed will help me with focus point.

Regards,

K.Polak



http://www.krpolak.com/images/temp/krpolak_mrforbes_05.jpg

Zephyri
01-17-2007, 10:58 PM
hi Krystien, nsome nice oil studies you have in this thread, especially some of the little ones! Last portrait is coming on well, though I'd still say you could push the darkness of his whole face where it is in shadow more. If you squint your eyes and look at the original reference, you'll see the whole right hand of his face is practically a blackish block, with highlights picked out on the nose, left of the moustach, lip and chin. I'd say don't be afraid to go even darker on the right hand side of his face (as we see it). Notice also how the whites of his eyes are a darker shade of grey than the highlight on his nose, yet yours are about the same value currently. but all the features are really well placed, which is the toughest bit, so kudos to you on that!

Rebeccak
01-17-2007, 11:03 PM
I'd agree with Zeph's comments, I think they're spot on. :)

krpolak
01-17-2007, 11:18 PM
Thanks guys, I also think that all features are placed close enough, which is the most important part. Now its time to work on values and more details down the track.

I agree that at the moment face is too light, it must be better modelled. However I am not sure if I am going to fit the photo 100%. This photo is not perfect and in fact I should make it better in Photoshop first. On the ather hand its important to keep certain contrast on skin to provide dark skin impression.

Now the whole fun starts :)

Thanks again,

K.Polak

krpolak
01-21-2007, 07:29 AM
Ok, here is next step. To be honest I wasnt really convinced if I should publish this one. Its like showing half done book, there is a lot to happen yet. But then, if somebody who would like to follow and learn something would miss this stage, so here it is. And I still count on your fresh eyes guys :)

What I have done:

1. First and the most important I redefined backgound. That mean puting new perspective to whole painting since new bachground, ecpecially around his left cheek competly redefines local contrast. And contast is what grap our attention. Doing just that I automaticly make his skin look darner. Amazing effect.

2. Then I worked on eyes and cheeks. Initially I painted those area, particulary his right one quite dark following photo. But again, local constrast didnt work and all was one big, dark blob. So I lighetened values here and there to give more illimination and again by contast emphasize his eye - the most important part of this portrait, any portraint. I happy with what is there now.

3. Following the photo I redefined values aroun jaw, mouth etc etc

There is still few thing to do. Also I have noticed a mistake, his neck is too short and top of t-shirt collar should be place lower, but I think I will leave it as it is.

As always any comments are welcome :)

Regards,

K.Polak



http://www.krpolak.com/images/temp/krpolak_mrforbes_06.jpg

razz
01-21-2007, 10:28 AM
Also I have noticed a mistake, his neck is too short and top of t-shirt collar should be place lower, but I think I will leave it as it is.

That is one reason to work paying attention to construction, porportions, perspective, all the allignment, so that later mistakes such as these won't pop out and in the later painting proces you won't need to think about where to place the nose. But I've made the same mistake on my last gouache study. It was sure enough for me that in my other painting I'll be more attentive.
I like to see you doing these studies in traditional media. No words that would describe how exciting painting is.

krpolak
01-26-2007, 02:30 AM
Still working on Mr Forbes, but its almost done. In the meanwhile I received the book you recomended Rebecca. Indeed interesting one. Good mixture of freshly presented theory and few usefull examples. Well spend money. Inspired by this book I did this quick conte study in A3 format. Anyway I am staring from Monday 10 weeks life drawing classes in an atelier.

Regards,

K.Polak


http://www.krpolak.com/images/temp/krpolak_lifedraw_01.jpg

krpolak
01-29-2007, 11:32 AM
One more conte. This time from life session, about 10-15 min. plus few touchpus after.

Regards,

K.Polak


http://www.krpolak.com/images/temp/krpolak_lifedraw_02.jpg

Rebeccak
01-29-2007, 05:47 PM
Really like that top one with the dark bkgrd for mood. :) I'm glad you like the book! I hope you find it to be useful. :)

Would love to see you start being a bit more experimental and less 'safe' with a few of your oil paintings. Have you ever seen the work of Alex Kanevsky?

http://www.jcacciolagallery.com/cgi-bin/artistDisplay.cgi?artistName=Kanevsky,Alex&index=kanevsky_00&showBio=0

It would be great to see you start to develop pieces with personal meaning and more expression to the strokes. One can do studies for forever, but at some point it's good to push beyond studies to do an artwork that has a narrative, even if it is contained within the expression of the brushstrokes or other formal aspects of a painting. Just food for thought. :)

krpolak
02-03-2007, 11:00 AM
Done. I cannot do anything better for now.

Hope you enjoyed guys. I did :)


http://www.krpolak.com/images/temp/krpolak_mrforbes_final.jpg


Thanks Rebeccak for the link. I dont really enjoy loose brishwork presented to that extend, however I must admit the guy has a good sense of lighting.

Next portrait will consist both larger strokes and detailed areas. I am still mostly into realism though, which for me means smooth gradients.

Regards,

K.Polak

krpolak
04-16-2007, 12:53 AM
Few pen and ink sketches on A6 cartridge paper.

Regards,

K.Polak


http://www.krpolak.com/images/temp/krpolak_pen_ink.jpg

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