Still: Metallic car

[Mythigo]

It looks real to me. Great job.:thumbsup:

[(B-HOLM)]

Originally posted by sebek27
this can't be 3d ? looks like a picture.. show wireframes then I will believe you, if this is 3d, it's the best 3d car i've ever seen !
why wouldn't you believe that? it was for Volvo and it was pro work, so it has to be realistic looking...

anyways really great model and the shaders are really something that made me drool. Keep up the good work :)

[%Peppo]

:applause:
I like your stuff !! ...this car is soooo impressive natural... you make a great job men
!!:buttrock: :buttrock: :thumbsup: :applause:

[Laptop]

fantastic!!!
GREAT JOB !!
:xtreme: :xtreme: :xtreme:

[sebek27]

what software did you use ?

[(B-HOLM)]

Originally posted by Subscream

just straight out of the mayarenderer .. It's a 330 Mb mayafile ..
and it takes about 7 minutes to render each frame.


sounds like he's using Maya

[sebek27]

maya oh oops

[Subscream]

thanks everybody .. great to get some positive feedback

sebek27: I've used Maya 4.0 for the XC90 ..

I would post some wiresframe images but I can't host them myself .. anyone know a good hosting site?

[(B-HOLM)]

mail me at *removed* and I'll host it for you :)

[Toxez]

Subscream, great work!
I sat in a XC90 yesterday on the Comdex exhibition in Gothenburg, incredible car ;)

Maybe you know Clas Jinton? He's my uncle and has designed a few things on the XC90 i believe.

[Alice]

Joel, ask petur, i got an empty telia account you can borrow :)
Nice to see you can finaly show some of all your good work!
take care!
/Malin

[Subscream]

Toxez: Sorry .. no I don't know him .. I've not been envolved in any design work. I just did the lighting and the metallic-shader ..
so I can't take credit for any design work .. that totally goes to everybody working at Volvo.

Here are the "wireframe" .. As you maybe know maya sucks at rendering wireframe and rendering with a wireframe-plugin on this modell .. you don't even wanna begin thinking about ..
but I did a screenshot of my workspace ..




http://home19.inet.tele.dk/b_holm/XC90_workspace.jpg

[Subscream]

thanks (B-HOLM) for hosting my pistures

And thanks Malin ..

[samartin]

NO GI / Raytracing !?!?!? Wow, that is v. sweet... cos' of this new shader u wrote does this work like using incidence gradients 2 achieve the look ???

[hhmaya]

wow!!!!!
cool :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

[Subscream]

samartin: Well .. first thing .. I didn't code any specific new shader. I just found a way to utilize the existing tools found in maya. The shader network is actually pretty clean maybe 20 nodes or so .. But I have spent a fair amount of research into this network to get it to a point were I happy with it ..

I don't know how to futher improve this now .. not without a trying a diffrent render .. but rendering times then becomes a killer..

I'm open to every suggestion ..

/Joel

[frameless]

...cannot believe that this cg!!! WOW!! great Job!!!:applause: :thumbsup:

[JacquesD]

Very good work. :)

I'd really like to see a bigger pic.

[Nikos]

Wow I love it!
Looks very photoreal! :cool:

[samartin]

how can u add 2 that ??? it's awesome as is, especially the fact u ain't used the GI/raytracing options...

another 5 (*)'s and I don't give 'em out until 2night that is... My generosity is my failure...

[Michael Chen]

Definitely you'll get a job as a modeller.

The Car is just so real, unbelievable :eek:

I wish I can model like that :D

How long have you been modelling?

[(B-HOLM)]

he already told us that he didn't model it...he only made the shader and the rendering....atleast that's how I understood it...

[jimmyb]

Nice job for sure. Excellent render!!!
Any chance of showing us the shader
network or a tutorial?

[piajartist]

Very realistic

[Subscream]

As (B-HOLM) pointed out I didn't modell this myself .. we get CAD-data from Volvo so I will not take any credit for that.
We have to modell some parts and fill holes were the CAD-data is corrupt. Often it takes about a 1 1/2 week to complete the CAD-data to get a suitable modell to begin rendering with.
Also the CAD-data tends to be rather dense and heavy so some parts we remodell .. but that is only if we see that it can reduce the scene size dramaticly and we have the time to do it.

jimmyb: As much as I would like to I cannot show you the shadersetup because that is Volvos property. But to give you a hint of what I'm using I can say this.:

First: The reflection is a custom made sphere map. You don't want to add to much detail into that map because it gets in the way when you try to achieve that "studio"effect.

Second: I use the layer texture alot. (Not layer shader) .. The main advantage is that you can use the layereffects ( saturation, multiply and so on ) almost like those in Photoshop.

Third: Samplerinfo node .. and the facingratio attribute is a must to achieve this rendering ...


Hope that brings som light into it and you have to play around with these settings alot. ( I have .. believe me )

One nice thing with this I think is that you don't have to have Mental Ray ( or any other renderer to achieve a good result which is a common missunderstanding these days). You can actually come a long way with just a standard renderer if you just put some effort into it.

Thanks everybody for all the crits.. It's nice to get some recognition

[CyBEX]

Im very impressed, you have gone far in 3d-graphics and seems you got much experience since the computer engineer education we studied. :beer:

But Im not suprised because you always had a big interest in 3d and almost as stubborn as me. :p

Well, I have showed your work to my Co-Workers and they were positive. So when we need any graphic we now who to seek up then? with good payment ofcourse :cool:

good luck in the future pal

[Mangled Poly]

Very cool! i loved the comercial for this thing....:bounce:

[meshwolf]

:applause: Bravo! Excellent work! *taking a bow*

It's good to see that someone actually take the maya renderer around the block. It's actually a very good renderer even though it lacks GI, HDRI and other 'fancy' features.

I think I have a clue about the samplerinfo node and facingratio you mentioned as I've been fooling around some with it as well.

If you take a material and add a ramp to reflectivity, then you make that ramp an exponential down U ramp, set the lower value to bright grey (near white), the higher value to very dark grey (near black). Then you graph your current network, remove the "place 2d texturenode" and add a samplerinfo node, connect it's facinratio to the materials U coord. This will give you a material that have a nice fresnel effect, as in low reflectivity when looking straight at it, but as the angle increases, so does reflection.

I don't know if that's the way you used it, but it sure beats the default lambert. :D

[Skyraider3D]

You scanned a Volvo brochure didn't you? ;)
What I mean is: that car is as photoreal as it gets! Really amazing!! And a cool car too :)

[Subscream]

meshwolf: yes you pretty close ..
I actually added a spheremap to the reflecton .. then I connected a ramp to the colorgain .. and added the facingratio to the ramp..

Thats the easy part .. the problem begins when you try to get that depth in the Metallic-shader. Also Metallic have a sort of illumination in it .. and when you try to achieve that you often find that the shader tends to "burn out" and gets that CG-look ..

So you realy have to play with the layer-texture .. thats the key ..

hope this helps ..

[stephen2002]

looks very good...I can't see anything that could use improving.

Especially impressive since you didn't use any fancy effects.

[Subscream]

thanks :)

[DIMO]

Your shader really looks great.
And I always thought you couldn't do good car-renders with maya ;)

[Fingolfin]

How long did it take for you to tweek the shader until you got it just right?

[Subscream]

hmm .. I'm been tweeking this shader for a while .. you know .. looking at alot of cars in diffrent enviroments and trying to figure out how to simulate that behaviour and at the same time learning maya .. and discovering the tools that let me do what I want. That has been an ongoing process for like 2 years ..

But the amount of time to tweek this shader ( knowing what I was after ) .. took about a week to get it right.

[Kabab]

That it is one kick ass shader you should be very proud !!

[Fingolfin]

I've been tweeking rubber on tires for about 2 days. I'm glad I'm not the only one that takes a while to get textures right.

[That Adrian Guy]

You should flatten the bottom of the tires

[joie]

Your work it´s totally amazing, you inspired me!
The only weird thing to me is that the mirrors don´t appears on windows reflection!, wow, this little things are the ones that makes me to see the trick! :)

[Subscream]

thanks for the advice .. :)

gonna take a round with the tires when I get some time over

[JeePee]

looks like one of those boring car pics from a magazine, Great work :thumbsup:

[mmwizard]

this is da shit...

Looks great...

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