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Matellis
07-05-2006, 05:54 PM
Great to see this challenge started!

This should be tons of fun and very educational for me :)

I wish everyone luck and I cant wait to see all the enteries develope!

Time to start sketching and I will add my story to this post soon as well :)

Cheers!

Most recent update:

final image

http://img490.imageshack.us/img490/1356/atlantisdarktimesfd2.jpg

close ups

http://img311.imageshack.us/img311/2592/apt1gl6.jpg

http://img311.imageshack.us/img311/1164/apt2nl7.jpg

http://img342.imageshack.us/img342/1199/shellsfinim9.jpg

http://img169.imageshack.us/img169/3462/squidfinra3.jpg

references

http://img376.imageshack.us/img376/5779/referencesvq6.jpg


CHEERS

Rebeccak
07-05-2006, 06:01 PM
Good luck, Matt!

Cheers, :)

~Rebeccak

JJASSO
07-05-2006, 06:12 PM
our first contender !!! welcome and good luck !I'm sure we all will learn a lot

Matellis
07-05-2006, 08:31 PM
hey everyone

Rebecca: thanks :)

Jaime: yeah this will be a good experience for me , cant wait to see what people come up with:)

So I just got my basic idea together. Next I think I will start on design for the architecture
before I go in and start thinking about the composition.

Cheers!

http://img165.imageshack.us/img165/3121/atlantisconcept15mz.jpg

Novak002
07-05-2006, 08:35 PM
Good Luck!

Stefan-Morrell
07-06-2006, 05:19 AM
yummy concept..good luck Matt! :thumbsup:

cgoz
07-06-2006, 06:41 AM
cool concept Matt.great avatar btw hehe

AnimZiggy
07-06-2006, 02:37 PM
Thank you and good luck to you too! Lovely idea very ecological.

SweD
07-06-2006, 05:14 PM
There is a good concept here. It will be interesting to see your animals/plants buildings.

Good luck Matt :)

Matellis
07-06-2006, 05:57 PM
Hey thanks for the support everyone :)

So here is my first concept for the structor as well as what the people may look like since I am thinking about putting a couple in the matte.
Any crits are most welcome :)

Cheers

http://img459.imageshack.us/img459/5568/atlantisconcepts29vm.jpg

Velarion
07-06-2006, 06:23 PM
looks very interesting,good luck!:thumbsup:

ElFuego
07-06-2006, 09:46 PM
Looks really nice! I think this will be really neat concept with those transclusent organic thingys.

Pigment is overrated anyway :)

Good luck!

miguelslo
07-07-2006, 06:59 PM
cool concepts, good luck!

Matellis
07-07-2006, 09:20 PM
hey thanks for the feedback!
this will be tough but fun :)

Matellis
07-07-2006, 09:21 PM
hey everyone this is my first concept , i kinda like where im going with it , but i think i should do a few more before i decide on a final.

crit it up!

Cheers
http://img100.imageshack.us/img100/6761/conceptsketchatla49qf.jpg

Rebeccak
07-07-2006, 09:25 PM
Hi Matt,

Nice color scheme and sketch, but where is the focus of the image? I would like to see many more of those pink jellyfish / mushroom thingies, take a look at the Finding Nemo jellies for inspiration and see what you can do differently. Think in more sweeping / epic terms / and try to find a more dramatic angle ~ I recommend doing small / fast comps, just sketches to really get the sweep and flow first before adding detail. Just some suggestions. ;)

Cheers, :)

~Rebeccak

JJASSO
07-07-2006, 09:35 PM
I totally agree with rebeccak, a better composition is needed, more interesting angle

Matellis
07-07-2006, 10:54 PM
Hey thanks for the crits guys and i agree :D

I will be coming up with a few more sketches before i decide on a final , and here is my newest 30 min sketch

Cheers :)

http://img93.imageshack.us/img93/2585/conceptsketchatla66ie.jpg

Rebeccak
07-07-2006, 10:58 PM
Matt,

Hey, that's better :) I think I would go for that really long long sweeping gaze, you know, the best compositions seem to go that extra mile where you think it's going to stop, but then it just continues, and there's that added 'oomph' to it ~ like the winning 3D entry for the Challenge, there's an odd size to the image which is surprising, and the perspective carries your view way up and way down, and all across the page ~ keep pushing your comps to the next level, and then go beyond your best one! :)

Cheers,

~Rebeccak

Matellis
07-08-2006, 12:38 AM
hey everyone , heres a quick concept i did. I was just sitting around and i thought of the idea that that the ruins to atlantis was in an arms reach , and i have kids on the beach looking for neat little things while walking around and relaxing.

http://img100.imageshack.us/img100/3025/playinaround20lh.jpg

Trunks
07-08-2006, 01:06 AM
The last concept is really funny! I had also some thought going into this direction, just for fun ;)

But I think this should be left as a joke and you should keep on your other ideas ;)

Velarion
07-08-2006, 12:20 PM
Hey thanks for the crits guys and i agree :D

I will be coming up with a few more sketches before i decide on a final , and here is my newest 30 min sketch

Cheers :)

http://img93.imageshack.us/img93/2585/conceptsketchatla66ie.jpg

this is a very nice concept I think. I loved the perspective. Somehow it looks like it has motion:thumbsup:

AnimZiggy
07-08-2006, 02:36 PM
I totally agree with Ismail on this one. Even though I must admit the beach concept is nice also, I comic approach is always welcome. It depends what you want to do concering the matte though! :)

Artbot
07-08-2006, 08:03 PM
Ha! I, too, had the idea of doing an above/below type image. I originally thought of a fishing boat or something above, with the fishermen blind to the wonders below, but yours is much funnier with the kids looking for "treasures" with the lost city is only yards away.

It would really work great if you could focus more on one of the kids having discovered a coin or some valuable artifact with the others running to see what he's found. Meanwhile, in the below water area, the city hides, perhaps on the isle's underwater cliff-face.

Great idea, though - can't wait to see the final.

Matellis
07-09-2006, 01:31 AM
hey everyone thanks for the comment :D

here is another quick sketch , i am really going to the neon lights kinda look for this , i still dont think this is the one i will use but i will show it anyways :)

CHEERS!

http://img148.imageshack.us/img148/2258/conceptsketchatla71jk.jpg

Matellis
07-09-2006, 03:59 AM
hey everyone , just did another sketch tonight so i thought i might as well post it , crit are welcome :D

http://img143.imageshack.us/img143/2994/conceptsketchatla94pw.jpg

Rebeccak
07-09-2006, 04:14 AM
Liking the new concept a lot, some suggestions:

-lift the city so the viewer's looking up at it.
-emphasize the hell out of the cool shipwreck on the right.
-use the ghostly tendril things as compositional devices to lead the eye across the entire page.

Great stuff! :)

Cheers,

~Rebeccak

Mobious
07-09-2006, 09:03 AM
Great work Matellis. This is the first time Iíve followed a challenge from beginning to end, and Iíll be watching yours closely as I feel it will surly be one of the finals. I love the concept of Atlantis and I think your hitting the nail on the head every time while at the same time creating something so unique comparend to what many imagine.

I know your still in the concept stage so Iím not sure how much time you want to spend tuning that recent image, but if your going in that direction, Iíd agree with Rebeccak. But, regardless, I love the shipwreck and I would advise you to keep it somewhere in your piece. Iím surprised that no one else has included that so far. It adds so much thought. Such an amazing city in such a beautiful world, but a deteriorating ancient shipwreck suggests otherwise. Also, the concept of the tunnel provides something many of the others lack (other than a trail for the eye to follow), and thatís a sense of something larger than whats visible. Obviously that tunnel leads somewhere, indicating that the awesome view in front of you is only a glimpse at whats really there.

Cant wait to see more!

AnimZiggy
07-09-2006, 10:23 AM
Hey Matt,

I really like the last image but I would prefer to see it with the purple bubbles that you did earlier rather than that white corridor tube thingy. It reminds me of some short of underwater corridor in an aquarium..:eek:

I really liked the organic feel those purple things had..

keep it up!

Matellis
07-09-2006, 09:00 PM
Hey everyone

I just finished my final concept drawing and this is what i will go with. It will be a mixture of the organic idea I had also with some metal structure. Hopefully tonight I will start collecting some good references and tomorrow start building stuff in 3d :)

Cheers!

http://img271.imageshack.us/img271/5997/atlantisfinalconcept52wr.jpg

vivin
07-09-2006, 11:24 PM
Hey Matt, Nice concept as always. Keep working on it, and im sure it will turn out awesome :thumbsup:

DiM
07-10-2006, 01:10 PM
Hey Matt!

Good idea and good concept.

GonzaloGolpe
07-10-2006, 03:02 PM
Hi!very interesting your last sketch.Iīll watch to your progress and good luck!!:thumbsup:

Your avatarīs cool,hahah

Matellis
07-10-2006, 08:07 PM
Hey thanks for the comments guys!

Here are a couple of the 3d objects that I have modeled today and basic textures. Still a lot to do on them but most of that will just be paint over in Photoshop and color correction.

Cheers!

http://img150.imageshack.us/img150/3235/3dmodels13py.jpg

SamsonsReaper
07-10-2006, 08:12 PM
thats cool man!, i like the left one:twisted:

Inlakechh
07-10-2006, 08:23 PM
very nice Matt ... Zbrush is perfect to get this natural bionic look. Can't wait to see the next steps.

SweD
07-10-2006, 11:28 PM
it's a very cool modeling you've make here. Just on an interesting way ! keep it up ! :thumbsup:

Rebeccak
07-10-2006, 11:43 PM
Wow, Matt, this will be exciting to follow! I love the organic structures, there is something just a little less convincing about the building. But keep rockin', this will be cool to see come together for sure! :)

Cheers,

~Rebeccak

Reikon
07-11-2006, 02:20 AM
Good stuff man i'm liking the 3d models ;)

Matellis
07-12-2006, 06:38 AM
Hey thanks for the comments everyone:)

Heres another update. This is my matte so far , I have been working around the canvas a bit but mainly the right side tonight. Tomorrow I will start working around all the parts doing some basic detail and making sure that if I am going to change anything i get it done early , Hope you like it and crits are most welcome!

Cheers

http://img100.imageshack.us/img100/7161/atlantisfinalmatte163kz.jpg

JJASSO
07-12-2006, 06:41 AM
I found it a little confusing in contrast and depth, I see a big boat there but and the city is not the focal point, try another composition and check out your values for depth (fore ,middle and background)

CodeNothing
07-12-2006, 07:20 AM
VERY cool! this is coming along great!

R-K
07-12-2006, 09:07 AM
hi, looks interesting so far, maybe more underwaterish colors?

Rebeccak
07-13-2006, 05:53 AM
Matt,

I agree with jamesvfx, it's a bit dark and hard to tell what the focal point is. I know you don't have the tunnel in yet though, but comping out some stuff just quickly might help. :)

Cheers,

~Rebeccak

Matellis
07-13-2006, 02:31 PM
hey everyone thanks for the crits , and i agree. I took yesterday off from working on it so i could look at it again today with fresh eyes and im going to fix and redo some of the composition , i have a couple ideas in mind, mainly envolving either taking out that boat or making it smaller. Also taking out that rock face on the right side. And Rebecca! what do you mean the tunnel isnt in yet?! its right there lol ;)

Cheers

HellBoy
07-13-2006, 03:59 PM
cool stuff matt :thumbsup:

looking farward for more

Matellis
07-13-2006, 06:11 PM
Hey everyone , I have changed my sketch quite a bit , made the city bleed into the middle ground some , and added a lot more tunnels etc. Right now this is very basic blocking in but I dont think I will take this sketch any further and get right into the matte painting.

Cheers!

http://img503.imageshack.us/img503/373/atlantisfinalmattecomp56jv.jpg

miguelslo
07-13-2006, 08:30 PM
me likes this one :bounce:

Matellis
07-14-2006, 03:14 AM
Hey everyone

I changed up the matte some following the newer sketch and this is where I am at so far

Cheers!

http://img117.imageshack.us/img117/5545/atlantisfinalmatte211nq.jpg

Rebeccak
07-14-2006, 03:58 AM
Matt,

It seems almost easier to do some quick / fast mock up 3D models and to try a bunch of different camera angles / different perspective views to see what might be interesting compositionally...just a suggestion! :)

Cheers,

~Rebeccak

SamsonsReaper
07-14-2006, 12:45 PM
i am liking those architectures, they need abit more contrast though :), keep it up dude

Inlakechh
07-16-2006, 07:39 PM
nice Matt, this is getting more scale. But don't forget to put some more depth into the sketch. lower the saturation a little towards the background.In case of the actual matte, you need to put more contrast into the background. It looks a little flat.

AnimZiggy
07-18-2006, 05:14 PM
wow Matt. I haven't checked here for a while...new concept again. I like this one too.

Velarion
07-19-2006, 08:01 AM
hey Matt it has great details so far,nice color tones.keep up:thumbsup:

mybutterflyiris
07-19-2006, 11:50 PM
This is a better composition. I think you could still tweak it though. And something bothers me about the lighting/depth still. Perhaps it will get better as you go along...

Matellis
07-26-2006, 03:57 PM
Hey everyone thanks for the comments :D

But now I decided I will change my concept. I have been working on the other one a bit the last while and I wasnt having to much fun doing it so I came to the conclusion that I didnt like it. So now im going back to more of the organic look , just this time it will be a fake squid government building and then all around it will be man made sea shells for houses.

Cheers

http://img79.imageshack.us/img79/972/newatlantispj0.jpg

smurph
07-26-2006, 06:17 PM
Matt, I like your new sketch. If I were you I would start hitting google or http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Main_Page and start collecting shell photos that you can modify to make look like those structures and start placing them. I got some higher res pictures on the wiki thing.
Goodluck!

Matellis
07-27-2006, 12:00 AM
Hey Sean thanks a lot. Here is a site that I go too http://www.sxc.hu/home , it is amazing really. If you sign up , there are thousands of pictures of almost anything you can think of and many are over 2000 pixels wide , even 3000. If anyone is interested CHECK IT OUT! Most are royalty free :D Big props to my friend Amanda for letting me in on this great site!

I found some really nice shell pics there that I am dying the start working with tonight :)

Cheer :D

Velarion
07-27-2006, 01:47 AM
ohh,time is running up we should work faster:bounce:

Matellis
07-27-2006, 03:37 AM
Ismail you said it! haha im hoping i can get this one out quick. I will hold off on my other mattes i think for the week and hopefully i will be able to finish. :D

Here is an update , i started this a couple hours ago , just pretty much just laying out the images and making the first of many retouches as well adding some extra sketch elements.

Cheers

http://img141.imageshack.us/img141/5617/newatlantis3mz4.jpg

Matellis
07-28-2006, 02:35 PM
Hey everyone :)

I have been working on this challenge some more. Still lots left but here is where im at. The lights on the building will be redone since right now a lot of the lighting is just for test at this stage :D

Cheers

http://img111.imageshack.us/img111/4688/atlantissqugn2.jpg

http://img111.imageshack.us/img111/5507/squid4we8.jpg

http://img111.imageshack.us/img111/7915/closecitkl7.jpg

http://img111.imageshack.us/img111/9812/buildingtoplo9.jpg

Velk
07-28-2006, 02:39 PM
Looking good Matellis, doesn't look very under-watery but I'm guessing you are going to add that later. I really like the squid :thumbsup:

rawwad
07-28-2006, 04:21 PM
Thatīs realy cool man! I like it, very sci-fi matte. Also I like color atmosphere, finaly someone have other dominate color than blue or green :D looking great Matt :thumbsup:

Matellis
07-28-2006, 06:36 PM
Hey thanks guys :)

Velk: I agree , thats one thing im am trying to think of right now. The idea is that its so deep that the only light around are the ones in the city. And im not sure how dirty i want the water to be , I played around a bit but most of the time it just started looking like I applied the noise filter :S I will keep playing around

Thanks again :D

Velarion
07-28-2006, 07:32 PM
It's goin' very nice Matt.The colors are great I think but as mentioned above no underwater feeling.I don't know how will you do that but now only thing I know is it's looking great :)

SamsonsReaper
07-29-2006, 11:33 AM
wow matt ! very cool concept!, good luck to you :buttrock:

MPavel
07-29-2006, 03:52 PM
Gre8 stuff! YOu use so unusual colors for underwater scene! I think it`ll be some outstanding image! Good luck :bounce:

Matellis
08-03-2006, 09:41 PM
Hey thanks everyone for all the support. It has been a good run , lots of great enteries and more to come. I lost my internet today and I am not sure when i will have it back but I hope to see all the entries soon.

final image

http://img490.imageshack.us/img490/1356/atlantisdarktimesfd2.jpg

close ups

http://img311.imageshack.us/img311/2592/apt1gl6.jpg

http://img311.imageshack.us/img311/1164/apt2nl7.jpg

http://img342.imageshack.us/img342/1199/shellsfinim9.jpg

http://img169.imageshack.us/img169/3462/squidfinra3.jpg

references

http://img376.imageshack.us/img376/5779/referencesvq6.jpg


CHEERS

ReinaldoRomero
08-04-2006, 01:58 AM
Very nice, great concept, i like the enviroment, really nice job

Inlakechh
08-04-2006, 10:41 PM
your concept is really outstanding from all other entries ;) ... good luck.

GonzaloGolpe
08-05-2006, 10:29 AM
Good luck, my friend. An original entry, different one.:thumbsup: Good luck!!

kary
08-06-2006, 02:21 AM
Turned out really well Matt :) Hope the move / net situation resolves well and quickly.

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