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enzodiac
01-15-2003, 04:48 PM
http://hem.bredband.net/sivfou/bitter_war.jpg

MrPunkin
01-15-2003, 05:17 PM
Wow, thats a big picture with little content. I like the idea, but its a little hollow I think.

RusMan
01-15-2003, 05:25 PM
It looks too "empty" put a tree or something. Great idea!:)

Carl
01-15-2003, 06:14 PM
Interesting. You should look at the political silouette work of Kara Walker:

http://www.grandstreet.com/gs/gs58/walker6.html

http://www.ramapo.edu/content/campus.resources/berrie/images/Walker.jpg

http://sheldon.unl.edu/HTML/ARTIST/Walker_K/ShadDramFour_SSII.html

enzodiac
01-15-2003, 06:37 PM
what do you guys think about it now ?

Carl
01-15-2003, 09:16 PM
The red was a nice blood reference. More oppressive. This is more pretty. It depends on what you are going for. This one is also more cinematic, since I read the black at the top and bottom as letterboxing.

enzodiac
01-15-2003, 09:19 PM
from the beginning i wanted to make it more cinematic, as in band of brothers or such. But i ended up with a red background which i thought was cool. But i changed it and think i have come closer the result i wanted from the beginning...

Talos
01-15-2003, 09:30 PM
i think it looks great... i like the title too but i think that there should be more..

maybe try use the "rule of 3rds" and add a few crosses or somethin. :thumbsup:

SheepFactory
01-15-2003, 10:14 PM
the tree is too short , the guys head almost touches the branches.

Go stay under a tree to see what i mean , you should at least scale it 2x

good luck ,

ALi

enzodiac
01-16-2003, 05:40 AM
i have changed some things now. Hope you like it better !

http://hem.bredband.net/sivfou/bitter_war_2.jpg

FLOw
01-16-2003, 06:37 AM
ah thats cool...!

I had a idea like that before, like something on one side of the tree, perhaps a soldier, and on the other side a whole bunch of dead soldiers...maybe?´
nice doh!

SheepFactory
01-16-2003, 07:34 AM
much better now :thumbsup:

mockmoon
01-16-2003, 07:40 AM
GOOOD:applause:

But i think it needs CLOUDS.
If you add clouds it will rocks.

iNFERNiS
01-16-2003, 09:11 AM
maybe you could add a rifle that's sticking inti the ground with a helmet on it, and put it in front of him. His companion that didn't make it :)

cuse
01-16-2003, 09:21 AM
i really liked the original that you took away... i know it was very empty but the single colours made a bold effect... tho what you have now is good too

:insane:

cuse

enzodiac
01-16-2003, 01:53 PM
i have tried painting some clouds, tell me what you think...

http://hem.bredband.net/sivfou/bitter_war_3.jpg

piajartist
01-17-2003, 03:48 AM
like the movement and life in the sky

element412
01-17-2003, 06:26 AM
great start.

coudlnt stop myslef. my version...
like it or not.

MCGrund
01-17-2003, 08:28 AM
Hi enzodiac, I like this picture it's really nice. But I think that the painting-style of the sky and of the landscape/soldier differ too much (intentional???). The sky is very artistic whereas the landscape/soldier are painted in a very clean way. Maybe you could give the latter a more artistic outline, too.
You could also try to move the focus a bit off center. OK, these are just suggestions.

By the way your image reminds me very much of an old Amiga game named "Lost Patrol" (http://www.cartwright33.freeserve.co.uk/amiga/lostpat.htm ).

enzodiac
01-17-2003, 10:32 AM
hehe thanks for the comments, i will try out different thinks and show you guys the result.

cuse
01-17-2003, 10:37 AM
hey dude... whats with hijacking the thread? not nice :annoyed::mad::deal:


cuse

enzodiac
01-17-2003, 11:21 AM
its ok :D
here's an update

http://hem.bredband.net/sivfou/bitter_war_4.jpg

Carl
01-17-2003, 09:19 PM
I still prefer your first version. Much more oppressive. This could almost be used in an army recruitment brochure. It's like you've gone from criticizing it, to romanticizing it.

SyDemon
01-18-2003, 02:29 AM
I agree. I like the first version too...it kinda has a certain silent, yet dramatic feel. I think of it as a battle weary soldier, bitterly missing home, his comrades, and the peace the land once had.

I get the impression that if I looked closely, I would see him weeping.

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